Rohan vs Isengard Middle-Earth SBG Battle Report Ep 03

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MiniWarGaming

MiniWarGaming

4 жыл бұрын

To watch the Ringwraiths vs Rohan Battle Report, go here :tinyurl.com/y6yr8yfb
Luka finally gets in a guest that is looking to play some Lord of the Rings SBG and that guest is Joe.
.....Who unfortunately left his miniatures at home, so he is forced to play Steve's Rider of Rohan against Luka's Isengard list in this 750 point game.
Some Terrain in this Battle Report from:
Terrainify - www.terrainify.com
Games Workshop - www.games-workshop.com
Table War - www.tablewar.com
Tabletop World - www.tabletop-world.com
4Ground - www.4ground.co.uk
Green Leaf Terrain - / greenleaf.terrain

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@JakobDrawitsch
@JakobDrawitsch 4 жыл бұрын
Featuring the MESBG has sparked my interest for this channel again! In case someone who this might concern still reads this here, just a few notes regarding rules for the next game: -Basic Rohan Warriors have lower fight value than Uruk-Hai -A hero who declares a heroic move has to move first and all models who are in range must end their move in range -Difficult terrain quarters the movement of cavalry and they don't get any charge boni while inside the terrain -technically channeling has to be called at the very start of the move phase before anyone has moved. -If an infantry model joins another infantry that is charged by a cavalry model both will be knocked prone if they lose the fight (around 1:02:30) -When wounding prone models you cannot assign every dice individually. The 2nd dice that comes with the target being prone has to target the same model that the original attack targets. So it's not 6 attacks to be assigned freely but 2 attacks + 2 attacks + 2 attacks (around 1:09:40). Maybe this was clear but you started by throwing 3 dice, an odd number. It would've made more sense to either start with 2 and see if that's enough or roll the next 2 along with it, so 4 :P -A model makes its courage test for the force being broken right before it moves. Warrior models automatically pass their test if they start their movement within 6" of a hero who has already passed their test. So after checking for Eomer he would have had to be moved first and then his stand fast aura would've been determined. The same would have had to be done with the Uruks. Courage test -> move. Next model courage test -> move a.s.o (around 1:13:20) Also it was very difficult keeping an eye on which models were Sons of Eorl. Wouldn't it have helped to seperate the profiles by the colour of their shields? Sorry, still really grateful for the batrep!
@thomassaxon8254
@thomassaxon8254 4 жыл бұрын
Miniwargaming playing SBG? It's heaven! If it keeps up I might actually have to get a vault membership again.
@GreenskinHolland
@GreenskinHolland 4 жыл бұрын
AWESOME ! Not that I dont like Warhammer 40k but I there is not enough LotR/Hobbit on the web.
@GreenskinHolland
@GreenskinHolland 4 жыл бұрын
PS Those Rohan are gorgeous.
@stonehorn4641
@stonehorn4641 3 жыл бұрын
People just can't afford every game. I have two Age of Sigmar armies, and 3 40k. There's only so much space.
@Svejir
@Svejir 4 жыл бұрын
Mr. Joestar: "OH MY GOOOOOD!" Happy to see more channels playing MESBG.
@alexhoward2171
@alexhoward2171 4 жыл бұрын
Is that a JoJo reference
@interrogatorchaplain9552
@interrogatorchaplain9552 4 жыл бұрын
@@alexhoward2171 ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA!!!!
@jj_see_film
@jj_see_film 4 жыл бұрын
Jojo isnt funny
@Nusrich_06
@Nusrich_06 3 жыл бұрын
goaHEAD mr juhstr
@maxphillips4261
@maxphillips4261 4 жыл бұрын
In a heroic move, the hero calling it has to move first. Also, all models have to end their move within 6 of the hero
@paintalist4391
@paintalist4391 4 жыл бұрын
It is so refreshing to see MESBG content. Please keep it up!
@bitsandbolts7884
@bitsandbolts7884 4 жыл бұрын
Me: *Sees Mini War Gaming doing another middle earth sbg bat rep* Also Me: *a single tear of joy rolls down my eye*
@dreadknot69
@dreadknot69 4 жыл бұрын
I'm just learning this game and I REALLY appreciate the explanations of everything.
@Shootkicksass
@Shootkicksass 4 жыл бұрын
Wild, I remember meeting this guy a few years back when I was just looking to get into the hobby. Was so nice to me back then.
@harrisonwyckoff9083
@harrisonwyckoff9083 4 жыл бұрын
Yes! I was hoping for more of this!!!!!!!
@blacktemplar5970
@blacktemplar5970 4 жыл бұрын
Right MWG....quite excited to watch a game of LOTR
@campbellbartlett5406
@campbellbartlett5406 4 жыл бұрын
Loooots of rule mistake but thats expected after a such a long break from playing, Glad to see some Mesbg love on this channel keep em coming
@shaunscott4773
@shaunscott4773 4 жыл бұрын
How did this slip me by?! I love LOTR SBG! Great game guys!
@czarniutka852
@czarniutka852 4 жыл бұрын
MOOOOOOOOARE !!!!!! great job guys ! more MESBG please !
@LordDarkhelm
@LordDarkhelm 4 жыл бұрын
This was fun. Especially with how everything kinda just devolved into a chaotic moshpit
@riponcitywargamers3289
@riponcitywargamers3289 4 жыл бұрын
awesome to see MESBG! Gandalf the white can ally in without affecting army bonuses and Sons of Eorl without Eorl the Young is an odd call as they dont get any of their special riles without him.
@drprofhazzmatt82
@drprofhazzmatt82 4 жыл бұрын
Could you explain why he doesn't break the alliance? I thought he was a part of the fellowship which aren't historical allies.
@riponcitywargamers3289
@riponcitywargamers3289 4 жыл бұрын
@@drprofhazzmatt82 he is part of Gondor, Green.
@slavetwe
@slavetwe 4 жыл бұрын
Son's of Eorl are still Fight 4, Strength 4, Defence 6. Which is much better than a standard rider. I'd still take Royal Guard over them if you didn't have Eorl himself though.
@lich109
@lich109 2 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty late, but not only do the Sons of Eorl have good stats, Piercing Strike lets them hit at Strength 6 on the charge, which is enough to wound nearly every Warrior model in the game on 4+, even enemy heavy cavalry. They're still subpar without Eorl, but you can make them work.
@richardkerr4458
@richardkerr4458 4 жыл бұрын
this is awesome love sbg glad you are doing this thank you
@christopherpeery7436
@christopherpeery7436 4 жыл бұрын
I dont believe it.. An MESBG Batrep from Miniwargaming??!? I just might have to sub again if this continues
@ElrohirGuitar
@ElrohirGuitar 4 жыл бұрын
I had forgotten that I first watched your channel because of LOTR. I have been playing AOS since just before AOS2, but I like the idea if LOTRO as well.
@thundergoat421_6
@thundergoat421_6 3 жыл бұрын
It's great to watch MESBG being played. Once I finish my soldiers of Gondor and I ever visit Cali...I'm gonna challenge you bois.
@stephentennyson5005
@stephentennyson5005 4 жыл бұрын
OMG MORE SBG PLEEESSH!!
@lowrenzo_2461
@lowrenzo_2461 4 жыл бұрын
I love Middle Earth SBG - please play Easterlings next!! Keep up the great work guys!
@mwgjosh5161
@mwgjosh5161 4 жыл бұрын
Cullen needs to get his painted
@martintieber7756
@martintieber7756 4 жыл бұрын
@@mwgjosh5161 Idk if I wanna see them get wrecked by goblins because of his rolls though 😉
@mwgjosh5161
@mwgjosh5161 4 жыл бұрын
@@martintieber7756 His bad luck is not exclusive to any faction. You can watch him get wrecked by just about any army
@martintieber7756
@martintieber7756 4 жыл бұрын
@@mwgjosh5161 Thats what I meant...I love the Easterlings 😅 He should only play factions I wanna see lose, like goblins or harad 😉
@dyllenrubbens5710
@dyllenrubbens5710 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, was hoping for lotr content!
@perreyalsdam7994
@perreyalsdam7994 4 жыл бұрын
More of this please. MESBG is a great game. And while Your at it, go for battle companies campaigns. And to help with who charged and who did not charge, There are some great markers available.
@slamindorf5478
@slamindorf5478 4 жыл бұрын
YEEEESSS PLS DO MORE! i stopped watching when i dropped 40k years ago, picked up LOTR and never looked back
@jakubjakielski6833
@jakubjakielski6833 4 жыл бұрын
where can i buy rocks trees and others like these? because without it its not the same
@kimjongwin
@kimjongwin 4 жыл бұрын
Time to rejoin lotr hammer after 16+ years. Holy shit time has flown
@trollpikken6907
@trollpikken6907 4 жыл бұрын
That double 1 roll though! And then it happens again right after and you call it!
@nicholasgardner1806
@nicholasgardner1806 4 жыл бұрын
I've met Joe at NOVA. I play in Syracuse NY.
@leddyxwarcraft3411
@leddyxwarcraft3411 4 жыл бұрын
beautiful !
@shakadiemens
@shakadiemens 4 жыл бұрын
Taking the Hobbits to Isengard great theme song
@luclapointe5836
@luclapointe5836 3 жыл бұрын
I have a a question regarding feinting. If you have a spear support, can they maintain the fight value allowing you to feint for free?
@lich109
@lich109 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, so long as they have a Fight value higher than the Fight value the feinting model is reduced to.
@lukekeenan5118
@lukekeenan5118 2 жыл бұрын
Hi! Have you made a 'how to play' video? I have just bought pelenor and the first fellowship boxsets. But I have learning issues and struggle with rule books. Need things in bite size chunks lol
@SirJamesIGamerfuzion
@SirJamesIGamerfuzion 2 жыл бұрын
hey same here :) there is a couple how to play on youtube
@leebishop6723
@leebishop6723 4 жыл бұрын
Shit just got good for the ring, hell yes
@mcshiro1941
@mcshiro1941 3 жыл бұрын
I use to play this years ago and you needed to have individual army books is that still the case?
@lich109
@lich109 2 жыл бұрын
No, all armies are now inside one rulebook for Lord of the Rings forces, and one Rulebook for the Hobbit forces. There have been supplements released since then for newer models, but you don't need them.
@beastmendelegate1946
@beastmendelegate1946 4 жыл бұрын
Cool, you don’t see a lot of these reports. I love Middle Earth.
@sledgehammer4321
@sledgehammer4321 4 жыл бұрын
More MESBG!
@lordravenblade
@lordravenblade 2 жыл бұрын
Did you mean Erkenbrand's warband was 6 Westfold Redshields? Sons of Eorl don't have any upgrades available.
@lordravenblade
@lordravenblade 2 жыл бұрын
Plus, Erkenbrand's "banner" only works on Redshields, not Sons/Outriders/Royal Guard and only RoR can be upgraded to Redshields.
@orkybob
@orkybob 4 жыл бұрын
The Warhammer games are awesome but it's great to see you guys playing something different. You guys ever think about doing some Monsterpocalypse batreps?
@sir_linchlot3755
@sir_linchlot3755 4 жыл бұрын
This is a Warhammer game the Lord of the rings game is by GW
@orkybob
@orkybob 4 жыл бұрын
@@sir_linchlot3755 I know, but it's not set in the warhammer worlds is what i was meaning. It's nice to see the variety.
@sir_linchlot3755
@sir_linchlot3755 4 жыл бұрын
OH lol just thoguht you didn't know sorry ab that!
@orkybob
@orkybob 4 жыл бұрын
@@sir_linchlot3755 all good buddy.
@MajorAivan
@MajorAivan 4 жыл бұрын
Please more Lord of the Rings !
@26snoopy82
@26snoopy82 2 жыл бұрын
JRR Tolkien said the tower was in the center of the castle of helms deep.
@StephenGraves
@StephenGraves 3 жыл бұрын
Jeez, Lurtz got absolutely wrecked there.
@Vinzwien
@Vinzwien 4 жыл бұрын
I wish I would live near you but I live on the other side of the world -.-
@musteagle2720
@musteagle2720 3 жыл бұрын
Ai mate, Is it worth playing Sons of eorl without eorl himself? Nice video, I really enjoyed it! Miniatures look nice!
@lich109
@lich109 2 жыл бұрын
I'm a bit late, but the answer is yes. They have good stats and on the charge they can still use Piercing Strike to get two Strength 6 attacks on their opponent, which become 4 Strength 6 attacks on Infantry since they knock them prone. This means they wound practically every Infantry on 4+, as well as nearly all Heavy Cav. Granted they're still expensive for what they do, but you can make them work.
@giovdb
@giovdb 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome game and coverage. FYI, all models must end within 6" of the model who called the heroic move. They must start and end their move within 6". That would have changed this game dramatically, I believe. Also, where in the manual does it say that the highest fight value of a model is used for all models in a multi-combat? I don't think that's actually a thing... I can't find it anywhere (and yes, I'm looking at the most recent rule book).
@lich109
@lich109 2 жыл бұрын
It says it on page 47 under multiple combats: "When comparing the dice rolls to see which side has won, only consider the highest scoring dice and *the highest Fight value* on each side." That's copy-pasted from the rules, so a model with a spear and Fight 5 would make the fight he's supporting count as having Fight 5 vs whatever the highest Fight value the enemies have.
@scubadiver6895
@scubadiver6895 2 жыл бұрын
If you use Gandalf the White and call it a minas tirith army then rohan and minas tirith are historical allies.
@anathemebouffon5983
@anathemebouffon5983 4 жыл бұрын
Just a friendly reminder - models that are within heroic move (6" from hero) must end their move within 6'' from hero or tehy do not move at all.
@SoapyWookie
@SoapyWookie 4 жыл бұрын
Correct me if I wrong but I don’t think the Riders of Rohan get the +1 charge bonus when fighting against larger models. So the fight with the troll you should of only rolled 5 dice, not 10.
@JakobDrawitsch
@JakobDrawitsch 4 жыл бұрын
Trolls are still infantry so cavalry do get the +1 attack. They just don't knock prone since the troll is S
@mrsolodolo5770
@mrsolodolo5770 Жыл бұрын
I thought the same but trolls have the "infantry" keyword so the +1 on charge comes into effect
@vincentr.3842
@vincentr.3842 4 жыл бұрын
Look at TLM.Tv there you can watch a lot of Battle Reports of Middle-Earth . The boys make a good Job.
@thomassaxon8254
@thomassaxon8254 4 жыл бұрын
Definitely some errors, especially on the heroic moves. Also if cavalry charges through difficult terrain it loses all charging bonuses. But for an irregularly played game not too bad. I must protest at the pronunciation though. It is Eee-ohh-mer, not aaa-o-mer. Same with Eowyn. It's representing the eo sound in Old English.
@bendiv7999
@bendiv7999 2 жыл бұрын
deam, Eorl sure does have a lot of sons xD
@tgroeneveld8536
@tgroeneveld8536 4 жыл бұрын
Where did you come from, where did you go, where did you come from, Buffalo Joe?
@vasilisgorgogiannis5517
@vasilisgorgogiannis5517 4 жыл бұрын
Forth Eorlingas!!!
@Htrad
@Htrad 4 жыл бұрын
DEEAAAAAATH!
@OGEETOMO
@OGEETOMO 4 жыл бұрын
IMO deploy the troll in the middle of the shield/pike wall will be a better result I think.
@saltyodinson1481
@saltyodinson1481 4 жыл бұрын
So, I believe the wording for Isengard is you don’t take tests for being broken until you reach 66% casualties. But you would still be considered broken at 50%
@lindaswartz3903
@lindaswartz3903 3 жыл бұрын
The camera placement in deployment is a Little of, but otherwise an amazing video Edit: speeling Edit: Spelling
@longone844
@longone844 4 жыл бұрын
That’s a cool tee :
@Ghost3210
@Ghost3210 4 жыл бұрын
Would love a Dwarf or Barrow Wright army to play this, but 40k and AoS armies are already taking up enough space in my home xD
@lv_Mortarion_vl
@lv_Mortarion_vl 4 жыл бұрын
Don't pikes negate charge bonuses? I used to play like 10 years ago so I'm not sure about that but didn't pikes do something like that?
@JakobDrawitsch
@JakobDrawitsch 4 жыл бұрын
I played since Return of The King and the blue rulebook and pikes didn't do that even back then. Maybe in the very first edition.
@patrickbuerke1390
@patrickbuerke1390 2 жыл бұрын
Pikes negate charge bonuses in War of the Ring
@johnmcconnell9979
@johnmcconnell9979 4 жыл бұрын
Great to see another SBG game on this channel! There are quite a few active players in that part of the world (Facebook - OHA facebook.com/ohasbg/ and OSBGL - facebook.com/groups/OSBGL/), maybe you can get in contact with them for future games?
@thomaswhite3149
@thomaswhite3149 4 жыл бұрын
So Fantasy?
@mwgjosh5161
@mwgjosh5161 4 жыл бұрын
I mean if we can track down a local player base who know the rules and have painted armies.
@Own3d74
@Own3d74 4 жыл бұрын
51:48 oh yeah !!
@leiziru9642
@leiziru9642 2 жыл бұрын
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@Inquisitor_Vex
@Inquisitor_Vex Жыл бұрын
I’m a half hour in and I’m already super sus about this Rohan player.
@nathanhammond3860
@nathanhammond3860 4 жыл бұрын
So I just realized Luka has a phyrexian tattoo. Personally i'm disapointed.
@nickxcaliber7991
@nickxcaliber7991 4 жыл бұрын
Give your crossbowmen pikes. Then they don’t have to sit back. Deploy alittle further back so you can pepper them with arrows.
@spitandfire
@spitandfire 4 жыл бұрын
Crossbows wont need them a couple of them in a fight will melt most rohan stuff with high fight/strength. Among the best missile units in game
@nickxcaliber7991
@nickxcaliber7991 4 жыл бұрын
spitandfire you are incorrect. You place your Crossbows and pikes in base to base contact with your sword and shield. You stand back and fire until you engage the enemy. Now bows are useless; but for only 1 point you’ve turned your crossbowmen into pikemen who can now support 3 ranks deep.
@JakobDrawitsch
@JakobDrawitsch 4 жыл бұрын
@@nickxcaliber7991 *and suffer -1 in duel rolls since they carry a pike and a crossbow. So I wouldn't nessecarily recommend it.
@HighiQGaming101
@HighiQGaming101 3 жыл бұрын
One word: virgins
@casbahowl8128
@casbahowl8128 4 жыл бұрын
Haha Lord of Rings is for Nerds. All the real men play Age of Sigmar it so much better than this crappy game.
@themasterninja110
@themasterninja110 2 жыл бұрын
Ahahahaha. Lotr beats the shot out of every other fantasy universe. Period. Don't be a salty bitch.
@SirJamesIGamerfuzion
@SirJamesIGamerfuzion 2 жыл бұрын
@@themasterninja110 don't waste your breath on him all the table top games are fun and it does not matter what one plays as long as your having fun that is all that matters
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