And their slogan: "Live Long and Conquer!"

To be fair, its a common refrain from military folks; one former Spec Forces guy I know always said, "If you get into a fair fight, you done fucked up."

@@Sephiroth144 as General Patton said “No dumb bastard ever won a war by going out and dying for his country. He won it by making some other dumb bastard die for his country.”

"It's a trap!" last words of every dude that fought romulans.

@@JeanLucCaptain "Why is the stars playing Latin?"

Addendum to Fed Fleet Doc: Ensure the Enterprise is not only closest to Earth, but the only ship in range.

The Federation procrastinates on their own survival ;)

@@jimbeam4736 Section 31 has made them lazy...

@@Sephiroth144 Section 31 rigs the game so they have already won with some amazing longshot Hail Mary. C'mon, whoever wins the Time War in the end, will be able to rig it so that they already won.

WE ARE THE BORG, YOU WILL BE ASSIMILATED. ROMULANS: Silence is our shield, invisibility our sword.

I thought they were mostly located in the beta quadrant

Yeah though those were probably early warbirds such as horo or vmelak.

@@venomgeekmedia9886 either of your answers could be right since it was roughly 20 years earlier.

@@mickeyholding7970 yeah in wings of romulus i say vmelak.

Not likely. The big green Bird is really still very new and on the drawing board from what I understand at that time.

They was mostly hiding their weakness because the number of ships they had. The problem of having ships of that size.

@@neganrex5693 I personally believe that Romulans were most likely faking signatures. To create illusion of having larger fleet then they did have. Alongside whole smoke and mirror nonsense.

terrorist rebel force

I mean I feel like everyone has seen that... but feel free to watch again ;)

@@venomgeekmedia9886 Venom, your content is quite rewatchable by the way. Feel free to recommend specific cross-reference content.

Make sense. Be interesting to see them with a reman paint job.

@@venomgeekmedia9886 it would

@@chrissonofpear1384 there must have been because the bird of prey they mentioned was older than the fasa winged defender , but the fleet was around 40 ships around remus but they must have had others at the base and at various places in the empire. And they were building vessels on remus (nemesis dialogue ) they must have had a much larger fleet during the dominion war. Imo

interesting. haven't heard of that one.

i'd be down if he is...

I adore the nova class I'm hoping to get a revamped model made for a wings of romulus. As for its use in the 24th century I think the nova would persist through the lost era and would eventually be replaced by the warbirds unlike the bops which are small enough to be carried I think the nova would fall out of service.

You seem knowledgeable, can you answer a question for me? Why do people think Warbirds are easily destroyed? I have trouble seeing it as a cloaking device on a slow ship makes escape difficult.

@@gmradio2436 D'deredix is powered by a quantum singularity and singularities deals with gravity. Therefore the ship itself can only take so, many hits before having to withdraw from an engagement. Just like how a warp core breach means complete destruction for a starfleet vessel however I believe that the Romulans cannot eject their quantum singularity power source because it's part of their cloaking device. And that's the design flaw.

@@MackeyDeez Wait, this is all about Singularity Cores? I don't see how the fact it has a different power source inherently makes structural integrity weaker. If the argument is gravity from the core could be an issue, I would like to point out that artificial gravity control and hull integrity fields exist in this setting. I suppose if there is an argument for a Federation ship might be designed to handle an internal explosive failure, where Romulan would handle an implosive failure. That might be a point in favor of being more durable. We never see a singularity generator fail in combat, even when the warbird is destroyed. It would have been very obvious with the ship being pulled into the singularity. If anything, barring alien reproduction, has there been an issue with them? Can a Singularity Core eject? No clue. Pulling from beta sources, possibly. Wait, Singularity Cores are not part of a cloaking device. We see cloaking devices on federation vessels. Everyone's favorite scrapper Defiant had one installed. Honestly I was expecting a argument based on armor, design, and doctrine. If Singularity cores came up, maybe talking about how the probably produce less power for longer operational range.

No. Vreenak traveled on a much smaller shuttle. We don't see the scout outside of tng.

Dukat but I'd love to have seen Tebok more.

Elements yes and we see that in STO certainly the ability to fire while cloaked would be useful and in fact it's believed that the kerchan may be able to do so.

@@venomgeekmedia9886 I still remember vividly when I saw ST6 Undiscovered Country in theatres and the part of the plot where the Klingon Warbird was able to fire cloaked....this fact was huge and much talked about amongst the fan base....and this was pre internet days. Nemesis was so bleh that I didn't even remember that the Schimitar was able to fired cloak. Granted that's not the foundation to the climax of the whole story like it was in ST 6, but it was overlooked and forgotten immediately it seems. Would of been sweet to get more lore on the cloak of the Schimitar and if it was based of data the romulans acquired in spy operations or if it was independently developed.

@@steveotten9473 i cover the scimitar's development in an episode of wings of Romulus, and i do try to answer those questions.

intresting. where is it?

@@venomgeekmedia9886 at the stern in between the wings meant or a scoutship but could be modified for a white wind

Cannon fodder

Hahaha

I don't take those visuals too seriously since they heavily scaled the warbirds down and were generally nerfed that dialogue would run counter to the lore which suggests that the romulans had the least numbers.

@@venomgeekmedia9886 the visuals do have issues but the dialogue doesn't "run counter to the lore" you have just chosen to ignore it for your own head cannon and your fleet doctrines show a very rigid 2 dimensional mentality in general and show only a very basic understanding of strategy.

@@jonsouth1545 dialogue can be inconsistent. Any headcanon I employ is informed by what we see on screen. Of course there is flexibility in this structure as laid out there is plenty of room to build on it.

Pretty much that's why they are so dangerous.

you still want the attack ships to have independent capability for scouting, skirmishing, ect. but the D'deridex could definitely carry a fighter complement on top of that specifically for more close-in defense and interception. but most of the time the warp powered escorts would be sufficient since whatever is engaging the d'deridex would have to be warp capable itself and so subject to the same limitations as the escorts.

a very interesting idea they do continue to use remote control technology during the romulan-earth war. but the seem to have abandoned it by the 23rd century.

@@venomgeekmedia9886 the remote control needs that sub species of andorians and captain archer discovered that and the imperial guard on adoria clamped down on there borders

Yeah romulan doctrine during the tos and tmp era would look very different.

@@venomgeekmedia9886 Personally, I prefer the idea that the Romulans turned to this "Strategic Maneuver" (including stealth and deception) as mostly the result of their humiliating defeat during the Earth-Romulan War. Sure, that wasn't all, but it was the biggest reason. After the Earth-Romulan War and the internal chaos that would have ensued, once the Romulans "returned" to the wider galaxy, their enemies (primarily the Federation and Klingons?) were just too powerful in the traditional direct war strategy for the Romulans to practically compete. This disparity grew worse (if only in culture if nothing else) during the Romulans' second period of isolation before TNG. Thus, I take the TOS and TMP eras as a sort of transitional period where there still were enough of the "old guard" who favored the more traditional means of war, and technology such as the cloaking device and propulsion technology wasn't at the point where the Romulans could employ the TNG era "Strategic Maneuver". However, the Romulans were moving in that direction. Any further thoughts?