I think the real world reason is the cold war and the in-universe reason is that it's proof that with unity, determination, and passion, you can rebuild from anything.

In the 24th century before TNG era began they had been at war with the Tholians, Tzenkethi, Talarians and Cardassians.

Let’s hope we skip that step in our journey to the stars

It's only optimistic if you're a human or a member of the Federation. Some species live a very miserable existence. Just ask the Vidiians.

I mean, no matter how optimistic you are, War is a universal content.

Nice pic

Honestly, the Romulan capital looks gorgeous. The grey buildings are so they don’t take away from the landscaping

Their Bird of Prey ships look dope though

Elim Garek shows condescension of another people he subsumes under the term "race".

The funny thing is that the Romulans are always trying to trick other people into going to war with each other. Half their plots in TNG was trying to get the Federation and Klingons to fight each other.

Technically yes, but also let's be honest...after finishing off the Feds and Klingons, the Romulans were always going to be next ...

@@Youalleatmuffins Yea, I have no idea what the Romulans thought they were going to do after The Dominion crushed the Federation and the Klingons. The best they could hope for was maybe a generation or so of peace as the Dominion occupied and consolidated their new territory, but the Romulan Star Empire would have a rapidly approaching expiration date.

*No!! Its real!!!*

It´s a trap! ;)

No, *it's a FAP!*

The Best episode of DS9

I thought Trump coined that phrase.

Is this all stuff covered in TNG?

@@ReverendMeat51 Technically the TNG movie Nemesis

@@samtemdo8 and the 2009 Abrams film

There was actually a novel that dealt with the Romulans finding out about Captain Sisko's deception and the role he and Garak played in the death of their Senator Vree'nak and tricking them into the war with the Dominion. Suffice it to say.....the Romulans were not happy at all......

It’s very common throughout history for allies in war to become hated enemies afterwards. Athens and Sparta allied to stop Persian expansion and then later became rivals themselves, culminating in the Pelopennese War. Rome and Carthage allied against Pyrrhus of Epirus and almost immediately entered into armed conflict after Pyrrhus’ withdrawal from Magna Graecia. Octavian and Mark Anthony allied against Caesar’s assassins and later became enemies as well. Even the USA was deeply distrustful of Great Britain after WW1, and actively made plans for war with GB.

dentoncrimescene Unfortunately Discovery is set in the past before TOS and everything looks rebooted.

You would be pleased to know that I've been kind of kicking one around, although of course I doubt it will ever see the light of day. I call it Star Trek: Dawn. It carries the ST saga into the 25th century, and it works something like this: The year is 2402. Kira has just been made President of Bajor, and faces the task of building up a fledgling state amid a very complex political situation. The Provisional Government has been made permanent, and now shares power with the church in a sort of Iran-like arrangement. The Maquis have laid down their arms and joined the political process, some holding office in the Federation government, while others have seats in the Bajoran Parliament. Kira's moderates, who want to reduce the power of the church and ultimately secularize Bajoran society, are faced with a conservative party who wants to keep the old ways, led by a very savvy but corrupt female politician with a personality very similar to Kai Winn. The first episode begins with Jean-Luc Picard's funeral (old age), and Kira's victory speech. We find that Sisko is retired and living on Earth; Nog has his own command--the USS Cairo, being Edward Jellico's old ship; Jadzia has died and her symbiote has been been passed to a young female named Eliya. Eliya Dax is in command of Deep Space 9--and now gets to call Sisko "old man" : ) Jake lives on Bajor, and has become a famous writer and controversial political speaker (his stance is a bit Jordan Peterson-ish). Unlike previous ST's, most of the action in Dawn takes place dirtside, on Bajor--following the story of Kira as she applies herself to the delicate of task of uniting the disparate factions of her world. So it's a lot of talking heads--essentially aimed at those who like the politics of ST more than the battle scenes. Kind of John Adams in space, if you will. (If you have not HBO's John Adams series, I urge you to check it out.) Cast, where not already known: Kai Malak (Kira's conservative rival): Rosamund Pike Jake Sisko: Don Cheadle Eliya Dax: Kirsten Prout

yep

Half of voyager is set after the dominion war

Star Trek Online did a whole lot with that. Unfortunately, it'll never be converted into anything mainstream.

@cristopher wong that's a strawman. Admiring the cunning and villainy of a fictional faction doesn't mean he'd like them in real life.

A very intriguing race.Unfortunatly the FEDERATION is allways stealing their tech,claiming sectors and brain washing their citizens with endless propaganda to create distrust and hate.And despite what some sources say,The Super NOVA was a federation autrocity to end the ROMANULAN threat !!

@@jamesburnsfisher3304 I think you are confused

@@jonathansoko1085 You can tell he's an actual nutcase by the irregular spacing

@@ReverendMeat51 yea he's a commie for sure

joshed You must ask the permission of the Great God Apophis before you have the impertinence to make a history of the Goa'uld! May your insides be devoured by dung beetles!

Rick Pyle Apophis is dead but his son Klorel still lives Jaffa kree

@@lakshayderp9771 we will never follow false gods, Hail the true gods, the Ori. Hallowed are the Ori.

@@lakshayderp9771 jaffa cake

Fabio Rüegsegger they did at first but probably stopped as they weren’t technically supposed to use the cloaking device in the alpha quadrant

mjolnir112 I think it would have been interesting to have a Romulan character who befriends the crew and decides to eventually turn a blind eye to the cloaking device.

The actor who played the Romulan fell out so she was ignored as a character. But I do agree. Having a Romulan on the Defiant as a main or regular secondary character would have been awesome. :)

The foundation is basically the catholic church, preserving roman knowledge throughout the "dark age". A neat story

The became more and more vigorous mustache twirlers as the series' went on.

I strongly recommend reading Rihannsu: the Bloodwing Voyages by Diane Duane. They are a terrific series of books set in the TOS era that make the Romulans a wonderfully intriguing culture, and they are very different to the TNG+ Romulans.

ggsimmonds1 .. are the romulan related to the Vulcan

ggsimmonds1 they're cool but I'm more of a Terran empire man

They have enormous potential. I would love a TV show focusing solely on them.

All good suggestions! We'll add em to the list!

Discovery is no worse than voyager

@@johnfinley8158 Discovery's ratings dropped off every single episode that came out. Voyager's ratings went up and down, but generally kept climbing and spiked in S4. Voyager's the better show. Also it got three more seasons because it was prequel dogshit.

I dont know what Dune is, so all I know is the spice must flow and heretics must be purged

@@just_some_dude019 Dunno what spice is but heretics must definitely be purged. The Emperor protects brother

Those stoic Romans with their Bread and circuses. Quite the mix

I pretty sure this is what Vulcans used to be like before worshiping logic.

@@Vasileski88 Strangely enough, both modern Vulcans and Romulans are a distancing of the original vulcan species. Both are disciplined in different fashions, sculpting their societies around their coping mechanisms against their baser natures. Vulcans have their logic philosophy, Romulans have this strange, cautious cunning which has them reign their emotions until they can act at the best time on them with careful planning, but they aren't nearly as bad as how vulcans were, whom were nearly psychopathic with how extreme their passions and emotions effected them.

You should go and check out Orange River's YT channel. He's primarily Star Trek/sci-fi focused. Makes fantastic, well-researched video essays. Released his 'Romulans' vid about three weeks ago.

@@subraxas Will do, thanks...

Something wonderful happened when the Virinat Survivor and Tovan Khev and their crewmates explore Dewa III prepatory to it officially being settled as Mol'Rihan or New Romulus.....they find what turns out to be the Sword of the Raptor Star....one of S'Hariens lost blades!

FOR THE REPUBLIC!!!! DEATH TO THE EMPIRE AND TAL SHIAR SCUM!!!!!

Meh "Romulan Republic" just hasn't the same ring to it. Sounds weak.

I disagree. A xenophobic and secretive species like them shouldn't have much development

Because in TOS, TNG and DS9 we saw only soldiers, politicians and agents. In addition, Narek, Narissa and commodore Oh seem to you not enough romulan?

Mass Ryb tbh, Narissa, Narek and Oh are Tal Shiar agents.. also, does this guy forgot that the Romulans have no strong Government by this point?

Maarten Blom The Empire in Elder Scrolls is boring and there’s not enough lore to really delve extensively into them. Hell a Stormcloak video would be more interesting

Jeff Small section 31

the Romulan Stellar Empire may be vast, but as a unitary state its central power is in Romulus and with the destruction of Romulus and the post-war political fragmentation led to insurgent movements throughout the empire and the collapse of the neutral zone with the refugee crisis.

@@imperatortiago I don't buy that. The Romulans were able to control their vast Star empire for centuries and had months (or years) to plan for the disaster. Even the Klingon takeover of the Romulan Empire in the alternate future of "All Good Things..." made more sense in context than this poorly thought-out nonsense.

23rd century blackface??? LOL