321: Can 1 Grain Really Affect Accuracy?

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Welcome to the Ron Spomer Outdoors Podcast! Can one lousy grain of gunpowder in your cartridge improve your accuracy by double? Are we reading fake emails on this podcast? How do you stop flinching when you're shooting a 44 Magnum revolver? Does shooting in the rain change your trajectory? We're going to find out the answer to those questions and more on this episode of Ron Spomer Outdoors Podcast.
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Who is Ron Spomer
For 44 years I’ve had the good fortune to photograph and write about my passion - the outdoor life. Wild creatures and wild places have always stirred me - from the first flushing pheasant that frightened me out of my socks in grandpa’s cornfield to the last whitetail that dismissed me with a wag of its tail. In my attempts to connect with this natural wonder, to become an integral part of our ecosystem and capture a bit of its mystery, I’ve photographed, hiked, hunted, birded, and fished across much of this planet. I've seen the beauty that everyone should see, survived adventures that everyone should experience. I may not have climbed the highest mountains, canoed the wildest rivers, caught the largest fish or shot the biggest bucks, but I’ve tried. Perhaps you have, too. And that’s the essential thing. Being out there, an active participant in our outdoor world.
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@gimpyRW 10 ай бұрын

I can honestly say that I did see something I can't explain. One time during deer season my wife, who is my able-bodied assistant, got hot and took off her boots. A snake slithered under her foot. Although she could feel the snake and see the snake she remained totally silent, no screaming, nothing, this from a lady that screams everytime a June bug gets close to her.

@vincentnastri7736 10 ай бұрын

There’s is such a thing as ,frozen with fear! Seriously!👍🇨🇦🇺🇸🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿🇬🇧

@robertvierra9917 10 ай бұрын

Flight, fight or freeze, these are the 3 general reactions to a stressful situation. I have one other question, did she have the shakes afterwards, usually caused by adrenaline?

@RonSpomerOutdoors 10 ай бұрын

Stay calm, relaxed if possible. Snakes, wasps, bees, etc. The only times I've been hammered are when I swatted, etc. Never been snake bit, but have gotten within range of many often. Knock on wood.

@wozzatherockdog1778 10 ай бұрын

Had a highly venomous snake ( because that’s all we have in Australia) slither between my feet while text messaging. There’s a difference between seeing one coming and seeing one leaving 😜

@hansguymon1254 10 ай бұрын

Even if the emailed questions were "fake" these are amazing videos. Please keep them coming.

@FraserFir-sb4lk 10 ай бұрын

@12:55 Taking advantage of time stamps can really aid this process as well. It allows one to help Ron go directly to the moment in question, providing a context.

@mattevans-koch9353 10 ай бұрын

Came in late but watched the entire pod cast. In reference to the 300 Savage, I think one of the things that made it popular in the beginning was the fact that it came in the Savage model 99 lever action. The model 99 was a step up from the 94 Winchester and the Marlin lever actions in 30-30. The 300 Savage was eventually replaced with the .308 in the later production of the 99 when they went to removable magazines. Thank you Ron for another informative video.

@Dwyer88 3 ай бұрын

Love the videos Ron I enjoy hearing your stories and learn more and more from you on each video I watch. Thanks again Zach

@ArkansasBadBoy 10 ай бұрын

I love shooting in the rain, especially when at the range. Nobody around. Those rain drops cannot get to the bullet because of the pressure cell around the bullet. Great video as always 😊

@mattpie595 9 ай бұрын

Fun except when lightning bolts are dropping around like artillery. lol.

@charlesewan8096 10 ай бұрын

It's interesting that you mention the 22 Hi-Power. I own one. I shot my first deer with it when I was 12 (1968) It is a Savage Model 99 Takedown with a straight grip. It hasn't been fired in many years. The interesting thing, as you stated, is that it shoots a 70 grain .228" bullet. I'm not sure of the rifling twist but it did stabilize the bullet and was good to about 150 yards with a tang mounted Williams peep sight and 12 year old eyes. I don't remember having to shoot anything any further out. Thanks for bringing it up. I shot many coyotes and badgers with it.

@mattpie595 9 ай бұрын

Saw the Northern Lights early morning in Buffalo Ny after the blizzrd of 77. Beautiful bright blue chatter scross the sky!

@BBQDad463 10 ай бұрын

Thank you for this video. At around 13:30, you mention the question of clear language. An old friend of mine once told me (quoting someone else, whose identity I do not recall), "Clarity of language and clarity of thought are two sides of the same coin."

@travis6977 10 ай бұрын

Hi, I have one more suggestion for the reloading question about the effect of 1 grain of powder on his accuracy. Time stamp 16:41 Another thing to consider if he wants to stick with the lower charge of his hand loads would be to tune the seating depth of his bullet. There are some great videos on this method. My method is actually to find a load with workable accuracy, but consist velocity. From there I tune the depth by pushing the bullet in 0.003" more for 4 to 5 groups (usually 5 shots each). One of these, or a couple, will group usually group well. But I recommend doing the research before trying this since that is a very simplified explanation. Thanks for all the great content.

@cacinaz8802 10 ай бұрын

Appreciate your expansive experience, knowledge and videos. Effect is a noun. Affect is a verb.

@ChronicalsofAl 10 ай бұрын

Are you gay?

@jfess1911 10 ай бұрын

My dictionary has: "effect: verb: to cause (something) to happen; bring about."

@RonSpomerOutdoors-Podcast 10 ай бұрын

Very true! We changed it on the thumbnail. Thanks for noticing.

@cacinaz8802 10 ай бұрын

@@RonSpomerOutdoors-Podcast Thanks, Ron. Was just trying to help.

@RonSpomerOutdoors 10 ай бұрын

Always appreciate help. @@cacinaz8802

@marvinbrock960 10 ай бұрын

Interested in the .270 SA wildcat… cool stuff from 60 years ago… 👍🏻

@markoharoldoronearmedpoohb7816 10 ай бұрын

The smaller the bullet, the more 1 grain changes things!

@georgesakellaropoulos8162 10 ай бұрын

Yep, 1 grain is about half of one of my small pistol load charges, also my cat sneeze loads for my deer rifles.

@steveemm9245 10 ай бұрын

Ron i really enjoy your videos im 72 owned guns sence i was a kid and still learn new stuff you do know what you talk about

@RonSpomerOutdoors 10 ай бұрын

Thakbs Steve. I try to avoid BS. If I don't know, I confess.

@Joeatsaco69 10 ай бұрын

1. I always comment in a KZfaq vid for reference. 2. On flinching. In the Army they would have you get set and then someone balanced a coin on the barrel beyong the stock but before the Mbreak. During the trigger pull and click the coin should not fall.

@GraveyarDiscipl 10 ай бұрын

Honestly for myself here in WV, the 7mm-08 abs the 7mm Rem Magnum can handle anything and everything in North America. I grew up using 30-30 and 30-06 but once I switched to the sister 7's, I've never looked back nor regretted my decision

@brysonfitzgerald5238 10 ай бұрын

Thanks for another fascinating podcast, Ron. I've never hunted anything larger than nuisance pests, much to my disappointment. By the time I expressed an interest in hunting as a youth, all my relatives or contacts that could have taught me the ins and outs of hunting were too old or no longer physically able. I live in California and am terrified of unintentionally committing a felony if i were to try hunting alone. Regardless, i am still fascinated by hunting and the culture it creates. Thanks again!

@user-ARK1547 10 ай бұрын

Love your coverage of different topics! I look Forward to each new video 👍🇺🇲❤

@theblindsniper9130 10 ай бұрын

As a gun Channel myself, I can absolutely vouch for everything that he is saying here. We get people just assume that nobody talks to us, as well as people who assume that we know everything that is going on inside of their head

@davidkohler7454 9 ай бұрын

Seems like I'm running into you in all the right places. Load data is so intriguing to me. Definitely a very deep rabbit hole.see you later....

@theblindsniper9130 9 ай бұрын

@@davidkohler7454 Haha yeah I get around. I enjoy this type of content. I basically make the stuff i watch

@scottsammons7747 10 ай бұрын

I learned to change eye dominance willfully long ago. While working with stereoscopes for reading aerial photos. First we had to learn to see equally from both eyes. Then it was not too hard to decide which eye to continue to focus through. If you are truly uncomfortable shooting left-hand, wearing an eye patch for an extended period can help to switch your focus.

@RonSpomerOutdoors 10 ай бұрын

Thanks for this info and tip, Scott.

@marvinbrock960 10 ай бұрын

As per the 1 grain question.. It’s easy to confuse 1 grain of powder with the 1 grain measurement! 1 whole grain in measurement is a LOT of powder, depending on the cartridge.. versus 1 grain of powder, as in a grain of sand. I can’t imagine even being able to tell the difference in a rifle cartridge, 1 physical grain that is. It’s takes quite a few physical grains to equal 1/10 of a measured grain.

@orr89rocz 10 ай бұрын

Agreed. But most i feel would read 1 grain as in charge weight. Who counts individual grains when reloading? It makes a huge difference in many of my guns, 1 gr weight that is

@user-nf2th3bn5t 10 ай бұрын

That’s why I refer to one kernel of powder versus 1 grain in weight of measured powder.

@Airon79 9 ай бұрын

We just don't know the guy who asked the question to assume if they literally meant a single grain or all the powder as a whole and how much they knew about loading or reloading ammo . Maybe they thought the powder charge is actually count each and every grain during loading ammo , if they knew nothing about loading , or if they knew about loading then maybe they knew powder loads are measured per bulk of charge , or as the charge as a whole .

@dinodaniels2142 10 ай бұрын

Your content is magnificent and educational and sparked conversations with my friends and I so many times before..and we are all the way in South Africa just by the way

@KathrynLiz1 10 ай бұрын

I had a similar experience with a 7x57 I used to own. The faster I drove the 139gr bullets the smaller the groups became. at 2980fps it was sub-minute, with no pressure signs even though way above "factory", but they are conservative for old rifles. I have had other rifles where mild loads shot well, while speeding things up meant big groups.... go figure.

@georgesakellaropoulos8162 10 ай бұрын

Every rifle is a law unto itself.

@kencleg7721 9 ай бұрын

Some rifles like bullets that jump had a .270 only flat base No boattail s there usually longer

@alpham777 10 ай бұрын

Right handed shooter left eye dominate lol. Honestly I find it comfortable with tactical shooting Irons or red dots on pistols or rifles but with magnification or long range I just use my right eye and it works fine. Also noticed it got easier as I got older and the rifle or pistol felt smaller to me ( we did not get youth rifles when I was a kid, M1 Garand was my second rifle at age 9 first was a Winchester 30-30 at 6).

@whoshotashleybabbitt4924 10 ай бұрын

M1 Garand. The world’s most popular youth rifle! You, sir, are awesome.

@bobbob8229 10 ай бұрын

The thing about rain and humidity just shows How totally based in facts you are. Bravo! ! !

@chrisaerts6489 10 ай бұрын

Great content like always.

@swdw973 8 ай бұрын

Was shooting left handed due to left eye dominance. Had a pacemaker put in on my left side (I'm right handed), so had to go to shooting right handed. Was shooting with my son and he kept asking my to try keeping both eyes open with his red dot sight. To which I told him, "Can't it screws up my view of the sight". Had to explain to him why the left eye dominance forced me to shut that eye when shooting right handed.

@bobbob8229 10 ай бұрын

The "point blank range"segment -- just showed how PATIENT, you are.

@jjgriffin3275 10 ай бұрын

LOVE that Ron is such a 270win Fan!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 270win is an Amazing round even if you dont like it, it still ballistically is Amazing and Ron has proven it !!!!!

@RossSeymour 10 ай бұрын

Good stuff Ron.

@johnbaskett2309 10 ай бұрын

A point that seems to never be discussed regarding the proper caliber of bullet for hunting elk is the amount of brush that will be encountered. I've killed more elk than I can keep track of, mostly in North Idaho and Western Montana. Idaho is notoriously brushy (poke your gun in the brush and pull the trigger when you find something soft😂). 90% percent of my kills were well under 100 yards in dense brush. In Montana on the other hand, the terrain is much more open. With that said, anything less than 30 cal. in Idaho was prone to brush deflection. The 270 and 7mm Rem Mag were terrible in brush. I found my '06 or 300 Win Mag better suited. I normally shot 220 grain and carried 180 grain to reload for longer shots over two hundred yards. In Montana I preferred the 7mm. I live in Alaska now and only harvest moose. Brush is also an issue, but long shots also exist. My .338 Lapua is now my go to gun, a real beast in the brush. I carry heavy grain bullets and reload for the long shots with the Lapua also. The7mm and especially the 270, under perform badly in brushy moose country, but the tried and true '06 gets the job done. Killed many moose with my old sporterized(sp) million series '03 Springfield.

@hinkrakagaming5532 10 ай бұрын

One of Hornady podcasts episodes on external ballistics, I think, has a pretty good part on why you should never trust in the bullet to go through brush for a secure kill.

@johnbaskett2309 10 ай бұрын

@@hinkrakagaming5532Unavoidable in brushy terrain.

@timbjork2098 10 ай бұрын

@@johnbaskett2309 think you missed the point. lots of reasearch has gone into deflection of bullets. google and youtube videos all over the place. and size if bullets regardless of is still going to deflect on a AVERAGE the same amount since you cant pick and choose what stick you hit and don't hit.

@hinkrakagaming5532 10 ай бұрын

@@johnbaskett2309 I mean, it's unavoidable that the risk is currently there. You shouldn't take shots THROUGH shrubbery though. Don't count on the bullet to push branches away.

@deifiedStag 10 ай бұрын

I've got to get on patreon this guy does homework for us all the time🌲🦌🌲

@mollybug9325 10 ай бұрын

During my eye therapy the Dr said eye dominance moves from right to left. Also with training I and my son could change dominance while looking through a scope. This was handy in Alaskan Brush where we were worried about brown bears. Nosler load data, 165 bullet and powder can reach up to 2900 fts and is good out to 625 yrds. Still over 1500 ft lbs. as you say the elk won't know what hit him.

@Timothy-dq6eg 10 ай бұрын

I love my 7 mm TW can you talk more about it one heck of a round

@jgrenwod 4 ай бұрын

My drill instructor used the same technique for flinching.

@borisbuliak3626 9 ай бұрын

Dear Ron: I’ve got a correction. Watching this on KZfaq brings lightness to my thinking, relaxes me and teaches wisdom and humility beyond my barely over 50 yrs on this here green earth. Plz continue the great job and more of covey? Forgetting the name of your dog 🐶

@steveblack7478 10 ай бұрын

Love your insight on recoil. My younger grandson has a new rifle, hoping that he will have less point blank. Yet i feel he really has the jitters or recoil sensitive. He lost a large buck last year shooting a 243 win. Found two months later only 60 yrds. From where he thinks it was shot. I feel proper placement is the Answer. Steven 7th

@RonSpomerOutdoors 10 ай бұрын

Yes, good shot placement, but also good tracking skills. Heart and lung shot deer -- regardless the bullet and impact energy -- more often than not run 30 to 150 yards. Variable distances. My longest was 200 yards. Lungs were soup. A good hunter is a persistent tracker/searcher, too.

@Q_Sertorius 2 ай бұрын

My dad taught me to “never assume you missed.” My brother shot a deer in the snow one day. It ran off. Not one speck of blood or hair at the spot where he shot. Because of the snow, it was still easy to track the deer. We found him dead over 300 yards away. We didn’t find any blood until the last five yards, when the deer had a massive hemorrhage and died. He ran that far on adrenaline and will to live: he had shredded lungs and half a heart.

@rickstrandberg6398 10 ай бұрын

You're making lots of sense Ron!😅 I noticed the title was one thing, but a 'thumbnail " had something about flinching shooting a 44 but the title is does 1 gr make a difference.

@danieltustison822 10 ай бұрын

Hello I just wanted say thank for your work I maybe guilty of sending comments with out exspation thinking you see them listed to show. On your podcast on power weights person ask if small amount could make big diffents your answers was correct. The best video I have seen that show how to find the (nodes) is Johnny's Reloading Bench. Thank you again

@gregjones2217 5 ай бұрын

Absolutely, one grain of powder changes accuracy. Even more so does does the primer. Standard versus magnum primers, especially in cold temperatures, will greatly change drop. Attention to detail increases accuracy and range.

@Gokiburi777 10 ай бұрын

Yes, 1 grain does make or break accuracy. What you are doing when reloading for accuracy is trying to get the bullet to leave the muzzle at the peak, or valley of barrel oscillation when the muzzle is relatively motionless. Been doing this method for decades for competitive shooting and hunting.

@denniscastle936 10 ай бұрын

1 g could only cause a difference IF every thing else was equal between cases being tested all have identical volumes for equal combustion. An old benches rule to get a 1 hole group was having the cases literally identical, neck tension equal Only then can such a miniscule amount of powder make much difference.

@Gokiburi777 10 ай бұрын

@@denniscastle936 Yeah, that statement doesn’t match up to reality. I’ve used different brands of cases and had the same results. I’ve been reloading for 20 years and the facts are the facts. I can’t tell my groups they are lying and they shouldn’t have grouped better with a 1 grain difference.

@denniscastle936 10 ай бұрын

@@Gokiburi777 hey bud, I don't want to disrespectful results. Working with your powder lot, primer lot, and for that matter bullet, brass, and chamber dimensions YOUR results are going to be honest only to your components. Having worked at Federal Cartridge for many-many years I can tell you with some validation how little a grain or two can make in accuracy because of production brass variances. I say again, the benchresters' rule of thumb to get was as close to identical brass dimensions as possible. By the way, I've been handloading since 1972, can load up to 35 different cartridges at my home, retired from Federal Cartridge in 2009, and currently enjoying teaching new (and old), handloaders as I am an NRA Handloading Instructor as well. And with that said I'll be the 1st to say ""nobody knows it all, I learn every single day. "

@Gokiburi777 10 ай бұрын

@@denniscastle936 Sounds like fudd lore. If you have all this experience, you’d know that even .1 of a grain can significantly change a group size. Maybe you’re not a good shot and therefore nothing matters? Not trying to be a jerk about it, but the groups don’t lie. I’ve got the groups to prove it and it’s over a wide range of guns.

@denniscastle936 10 ай бұрын

@@Gokiburi777 I'd be curious to see what you're calling a group. The question of my accuracy is not in the equation as we were doing all testing in an accuracy barrel with the action bolted to a bench similar to a rail gun in benchrest match.

@JohnnysSidebar 5 ай бұрын

We love you Ron!

@RonSpomerOutdoors 5 ай бұрын

Thanks for the uplift!

@garycrandall8649 10 ай бұрын

Dear Ron I absolutely love your channel. I live in NW Montana and probably not far from you. Recently I developed a wildcat cartridge, I call the 45 Crandall Magnum and did a self-patent on it. This is for people who want more than a 44 Mag, but less than a 454 Casual for Grizzly Bear protection. I start out with a 454 Casual case and trim it down to 1.225 which is 0.0500 below the minimum length and load it with 21.5 of Win 296 (or H110) in front of a magnum small pistol primer. The bullet I use is a Hornady #4503 .458 350 Grain flat or soft point; both will work. I then size these bullets down to .451 from .458 using Lees .454 and then .451 to bring them down to a shootable revolver caliber. I haven't Chrono-graphed these yet, but I have shot them and I'm confident these cartridges are superior to any 44 magnum loads; even factory.! The thick .458 jacket will ensure deep penetration while the SoftPoint will insure good expansion! There are no signs of high pressure! No cratered primers and no "difficult to extract" cases. Nuff said. Secondly, I am working on developing a modern line of rifles used by the "White Hunters of old." You know, Jim Corbet, Karamojo Bell, Peter Capstick etc. These are not going to be cheap rebuilds and will be built on strong military actions! However, they are going to be priced for hunters who appreciate and possess imagination for the days of old When a hunter would face death and lived life to its fullest. After building a totally worn out 300 Win Mag for a price I will only give to my grandson Gabriel because it can' t be sold for what it's worth. My second project is my point .303 magazine rifle built on a No4 Mk 1/2 rifle. That too will go to Gabriel. Ron, there is a need to bring back hunting rifles without the need for a scope! With the aid of my gunsmith Phil. We can start a line of rifles who are used by hunters who don't need a scope and are comfortable shooting game (and dangerous game) without the use of long-range optics. My cell phone number is 1.406.291.2909. Text only please.

@lens7859 10 ай бұрын

The guy is nuts, didn’t move my finger, and yes you can tell asap what eye dominant you are

@bobbob8229 10 ай бұрын

On the round in the chamber -- we had a Rem. 12cs(?) ,22special. Dad told me that it could "hide" a round In the action-- but to ALWAYS drop the hammer,while pointing it in a safe direction...... When i shot through the New ! Storm window... He Didn't scold me. I shot it into a TREE. Outside.

@bobbob8229 10 ай бұрын

I've waited about 62years to put this in print 😅

@lens7859 10 ай бұрын

Love your work Ron, could you possibly do a segment on 303 Savage. I have an old model 99 in 303 Savage that was my dad’s. I was able to find four boxes of ammo for and hope to add it to my reloading repertoire. I am new to reloading and would love to try this rifle caliber. Also I haven’t shot it yet, it was built in the late 20 or 30’s I believe and should have it looked at first. I have been there as a kid in the 70’s and saw him shoot it along with a German P38 war souvenir.

@whoshotashleybabbitt4924 10 ай бұрын

That is next level cool! Best of luck in your reloading for it.

@viator21 10 ай бұрын

While it’s still dark, I see huge bucks standing in the field in front of me, when it gets light, they are stumps. Never once has one turned out to be any type of deer! P.S. the northern lights are one of the most beautiful things I’ve ever seen! I understand why the Norse thought it was the gods!

@lylehutchins916 10 ай бұрын

Brother Ron, I have an 1898 30-40 Kraig. One day (back in the '70s), I happened to come across a .303 British case thinking it was a Kraig case. The neck was about 1/8" shorter. Using my trusty Stanley tape measure, and eyeballing the case to a Kraig case Long story short. I reloaded a handful and killed a buck with one of them. I still reload them. They perform great! Ps...I am the son of a WWII First Marine Corp, who fought on Pelilue, Okinawa, and two other previous campaigns. ADAPT AND OVERCOME!

@Joeatsaco69 10 ай бұрын

Love the rain findings. But what about angle up or down because that happens more that rain.

@RonSpomerOutdoors 10 ай бұрын

Angled shots (up or down) always result in higher hits due to the altered angle at which gravity pulls the bullet. The steeper the angle and longer the distance to target, the higher the trajectory. A ballistic calculator will do the math for you. In general, don't worry about it until the distance is 250 yards or more and the angle 20-degrees or more. We tend to over estimate slope. Truly steep slopes are rare even in mountain goat hunting. A 20-degree slope "feels" like 40-degrees to most of us. To be safe on what you assume is a steep shot at 200 yards or more is to aim on the lower part of your target, i.e. the lower chest/shoulder, but not completely off it. Better yet, build trajectory tables for various angles and memorize them.

@user-wo3je1by1b 10 ай бұрын

I’m not sure why knowing your eye dominance matters. I use my right eye for all scope shooting and archery because I’m right handed. However I am left eye dominant. Soo . When I shoot with both eyes open the left eye takes over . I don’t have to do anything though .

@ronaldjohnson1474 4 ай бұрын

Great episode. I'm still curious why the 6.5 Swede has been ignored. The Creedmore can't do better. They both use the same high bc bullets. Swedish steel is high quality, etc.

@Q_Sertorius 2 ай бұрын

Do they have the same twist rates in the barrels?

@sinisterthoughts2896 10 ай бұрын

You know what sets me off Ron? Yeah, you know. How about that for poor context? I'm just kidding around, love your work, keep it up and have a good day. (Context you asked for context on replies in the "can 1 grain really effect accuracy?" video) how about that for context? ;-)

@johnhurst6997 4 ай бұрын

As far as eye dominance goes I have it easy. 7 years ago I had cancer in my left eye and lost vision in it. However, I was lucky that I am right eye dominant.

@eddybear771 10 ай бұрын

I heard mention of the 300 savage, which reminds me of my rifle as a boy. The 250-3000. I believe it's referred to as the 250 Savage now, but by n large a fine cartridge for higher velocity & lower recoil. Do they still produce them?

@jeremiahthompson43 3 ай бұрын

Good morning Ron!! Wanted to ask you something..... you said rain doesn't effect accuracy much. Next to none. My question is what about elevation? Say you sight your rifle in at sea level. And hunt at 7000 or 8000ft in elevation. Or the other way around. Will it effect your accuracy? I live about 8000ft in elevation. And I think this is a great question to ask. Thank you very much Ron. I really enjoy all the wealth of knowledge!!

@RonSpomerOutdoors 3 ай бұрын

Yes, great question, Jeremiah. We've covered it in articles and videos before, but I can't expect anyone to have read and seen them all! Basically we're talking about air density. It's less dense at altitude. So bullets encounter less resistance and as a result fly farther before falling to the ground. In short, your load will shoot higher than at sea level. However, storms can change air pressure at any altitude, so you have to take that into consideration. You really need to run trajectory charts at different altitudes and air temperatures with the same bullet and MV. Trajectory differences can amount to several inches at 300 yards. To make life simple, I set my zero for around 4,500 feet elevation and "standard" atmospheric pressure. This splits the difference between the lowest and highest elevations at which I'm likely to hunt around the world, keeping my drops and drifts within "minute of deer, "so to speak. ShootersCalculator.com and jbmballistics.com/ are good on-line calculators. Hornady also has an excellent one on its website.

@chipsterb4946 4 ай бұрын

I knew that my daughter had a dominant left eye despite being right handed the first time she used a camera. She shoots long guns left handed and handguns right handed. She also shoots a bow left handed and is a very good shot with just about everything.

@codyway7424 10 ай бұрын

With the upcoming struggle, it would be hard not to recommend that an ar freedom rifle be added to the collection.

@tmutant 10 ай бұрын

I had a bit of an unsolved mystery, for a few hours. One night working security at a community college in North Carolina while I was attending school there, I saw a red glow across the northern sky. I had no idea what was causing it until the next day. There had been a strong solar flare event that actually caused some power failures in Canada. It caused the Northern Lights to be visible as far South as Florida.

@jcows12 9 ай бұрын

Yes one grain can make a huge difference for helping or hurting accuracy.

@kennardjohnson7875 10 ай бұрын

Yes maybe on how accurate you want to be and the type of cartridge you are loading. I've loaded 222 with imr 4198 filling up to top of case nect finger off powder and seat a 50 grain bullet and never weigh powder. It is a slight over load but it's quick and great on anything.

@youngfamilyfarms 10 ай бұрын

Hi Ron, love your content! Going as along on my first moose hunt in Alaska in 2 weeks to close out the season. My buddy is an Alaska resident so he will have the tag and the 300 ultra mag. I still want to carry a rifle for self defense from a charging animal, grizzly would be the biggest motivator. Should I bring an AR10 in 308 with 20 round mags or a 1895 marlin in 45-70 for a large game self defense rifle?

@paulreid2223 10 ай бұрын

Depends on the consistency of everything else in your reloading plan : how consistent are your case weights , how consistent are the flash holes, how consistent are neck tensions ??? Those are some of the questions to be answered in the quest for best accuracy. HOWEVER , if it's a rifle being used for 30 - 100 yard shots, the questions I've asked are irrelevant ..

@billhatcher2984 10 ай бұрын

You touched on a subject that I have been considering efficient small caliber's I have been looking for a 22 hornet I already have two bullet molds for it and it squeezes a pound of powdered a long distance do you know if anybody is chambering it in a production rifle I don't have the cash to lay out for a custom

@Perry2186 10 ай бұрын

That 270-308 sounds like the prototype to 277 fury

@jamaicanlumberjack 10 ай бұрын

Ron, I have a question related to cartridge selection. How would you change your cartridge selection with the knowledge that you would only be using copper bullets? For example, a .243 with a lead bullet can easily have a 100 grain bullet, but a copper 80-85 is about the max for a normal twist rate. Having a lower maximum bullet weight will obviously change the maximum performance of the cartridge, but do you think this effect is enough that it is worth taking into consideration when selecting a rifle for use with copper solids?

@RonSpomerOutdoors 10 ай бұрын

Good question. I've found that such a step down in weight does not alter terminal performance. Because the all coppers do not break up or lose mass like lead cores, they penetrate above their weight class. Dramatic impacts (hydroshock) are less often seen, so expect game to run a bit farther than when hit with frangible lead cores.

@jamaicanlumberjack 10 ай бұрын

@@RonSpomerOutdoors Thanks for the quick response! So for a specific example, in a situation where you would be comfortable shooting at an elk with a 150 grain .270, a 130 grain copper solid .270 should provide comparable results?

@northwards2218 10 ай бұрын

Regarding humidity, 2H2O has a molecular weight of 36 while 2O2 has a molecular weight of 64. Given the same air pressure the bullet will experience slightly higher air resistance due to a lower relative density altitude when the air is dryer. Affects aircraft as well, but humidity is a much smaller impact than pressure.

@raven1591 4 ай бұрын

Hey Ron have you done a video review on the .338rcm and if so where can I find it?

@selrod55 10 ай бұрын

Ron, is there a commercial cartridge made with the hammer bullets in 30 06 ??? Thanks

@marioramirez2181 10 ай бұрын

Hello Ron, I’m a big fan of your Chanel’s, thank you for the great content! I haven’t seen you comparing the 6.5x47 Lapua vs 6.5 Creedmoor, i have both and I get 150 fps more speed on the 6.5x47 Lapua, same powder, same bullets, with a smaller case, can you help me understand? Mario from Alberta, Canada

@RonSpomerOutdoors 10 ай бұрын

Thanks Mario. I haven't an absolute answer for you, but it your stuffing the same quantity (such as 42 grains) of the same powder (say IMR 4350) in to each case and seating the same bullet on each (say 140 grains,) I'd credit the larger fill percentage within the Lapua. There is about 3 grains more space within the Creedmoor case, so more room for gas expansion. In addition your Creedmoor's chamber and/or bore might be a trifle more "loose" than your Lapua's. Finally, MAP (max av. chamber pressure) for the Lapua is about 1,000 psi more than Creed. These two rounds are so similar as to be redundant. Greetings from your southern neighbor! I've always loved hunting Alberta.

@glockparaastra 10 ай бұрын

If 1gr of powder is causing such a drastic change then you're likely too close to the "edge" of a good node or an overpressure load. I would do a powder charge test to obtain the lowest ES (Extreme Spread) for your load and then tune for accuracy by doing a seating depth test, once you have a good ES (below 10fps).

@orr89rocz 10 ай бұрын

Not necessarily true. Doesnt always work well going by es. Half grain can make a difference in some of my combos even when the velocity spread is low across 1-1.5 grain window. Depends on the level of accuracy you are chasing and what the gun is capable of too. Maybe even the cartridge as some just are finicky. Last couple i chased low es with, i found windows that just were not accurate regardless of seating.

@richardwills8017 10 ай бұрын

Ron, is there some place that I could get a copy of the photo behind you with the shadow tree and deer/elk? I really like it. Thanks so much. Really enjoy your shows!

@allanbaker659 10 ай бұрын

I don't think Temps in Zimbabwe, in Oct are going to be super hot. Dec January, yes. not in Oct! Temps should be pretty mild for them.

@danlindeke2561 10 ай бұрын

Handloaders increase powder by a grain at a time to what a rifle "likes". This is from barrel harmonics{think balanced tire on car}. Browning and Ruger compensate for this with "Boss" system,lengthening barrel.

@TheErmine 10 ай бұрын

Ron! Huge fan… more addict! I have a question about what cartridge I should choose. Recently I’ve been looking at a Sako 85 Bavarian carbine with a 20” barrel. I’ve been able to find it in a couple cartridges, 338 Fed, 7x64 Brenneke , 6,5 Swede, and good ol 30-06. It was chambered in other cartridges, however, this is all I could hunt down, any advice from you or others in the comment section would be greatly appreciated

@RonSpomerOutdoors 10 ай бұрын

The 338 Federal would be fantastic, but ammo is getting hard to find. I don't think it'll stick around, more's the pity. 7x64 is a smidge better than the 280 Rem. and a great option. The Swede is a bit lighter, smaller, less powerful, but proven deadly since 1892! The 30-06 is still one of the best all-round rifle/cartridge options, but you won't get max performance from a 20" barrel. More than adequate, however. Probably broadest ammo options in 30-06, then 6.5 Swede.

@whoshotashleybabbitt4924 10 ай бұрын

Beautiful rifle…err… carbine!

@brettstewart8765 10 ай бұрын

You can't go wrong with a Sako mate, just pick what cal you want and have fun bro cheers Yogi 👍

@edwardabrams4972 10 ай бұрын

I have a Sako Finbear carbine with the 20” barrel and it’s my main hunting rifle it’s in a 30-06 and shoots 1” moa with several factory loads from 165-180 grain and a good choice

@doylethorn9251 10 ай бұрын

I don't think you can beat the diversity and availability of the 30-06.

@billfisher6708 10 ай бұрын

Speaking of Sasquatch/Bigfoot--I have never believed they existed because for centuries there have been millions of hunters covering about every place in the world where such a thing could exist, so I believe somewhere along the line someone would have killed one OR such beast is the most elusive, sneakiest thing that ever lived on earth. ;-)

@billyparker2630 10 ай бұрын

Hey Ron do you think there is a possibility of a .22 caliber rimfire based on the .17wsm that's pushing say a 53-55 grain bullet I know the velocity would decrease with a bullet that heavy but it might possibly be more accurate than the .22 magnum and have a better selection of bullets for hunting

@RonSpomerOutdoors 10 ай бұрын

I doubt it. Too much bullet. Would be too long to function in rifles unless customized. Bullet would impede powder space, too, but that might not be a significant problem.

@sneakinguponit 10 ай бұрын

Strange experience: pulled the trigger on a .410 shotgun. No sound but the shell opened. Was there no powder or load in the shell?

@RonSpomerOutdoors 10 ай бұрын

Someone could have built a partial dummy. Primer, no powder, just a shot wad with no shot. But there had to be a sound. It requires pressure to open a shell. Even a kids balloon makes a noise when you pop it.

@bobbob8229 10 ай бұрын

The Zimboby (sp?) answer is Absolutely Correct......(how the f...would you answer that? ? ? )

@mrmike6996 10 ай бұрын

Shame I won't be able to watch this live but will watch at a later time. So how about no grains? Have you played with any of the newer high end air guns? I would love to see a video on your take of them.

@jasonstephenson793 10 ай бұрын

I've got 2 break barrels in 177 & 22 & a 30 cal pcp, use them all the time for predator hunting raccoon, Foxe, porcupine, work assume, specially if your trying to do as least amount of damage to the pelts

@mrmike6996 10 ай бұрын

@@jasonstephenson793 Nice guns Jason. I was wondering if Ron had shot any and really wondering if he has shot some of the newer Zeus 58 cal. or Zeus 72 cal air rifles. These have shot large feral pigs, deer and have even seen a video of a bear killing by them

@jasonstephenson793 10 ай бұрын

@@mrmike6996 Ya, would love to get my hands on a 50 cal or 30-06 PCP

@user-sz7oq9qk3e 10 ай бұрын

Ron, I watch your P-cast routinely. U are usually quite accurate in you replies. However sometimes you are not thorough enough. A one grain difference can make a very big difference in pressures and velocities. Please explain this to the reader when the cartridge has only say a 12 grain capacity because small capacity calibers are MUCH MORE sensitive to even a half grain of powder difference. I think you know what I mean. I UNDERSTAND THIS CLEARLY. I shoot a large number of rounds yearly at Varmints. SOME ARE WILDCATS OR IMPROVED CARTRIDGES. tHE .17 hORNADY hORNET CENTERFIRE IS A GOOD EXAMPLE O BIG DIFFERENCES IN VELOCITY WITH ONLY ONE GRAIN OF POWDER.....AND IT MAKES A DIFFERENCE AS TO WHAT POWDER YOU USE...FAST OR SLOW BURNING.

@user-sz7oq9qk3e 10 ай бұрын

i ALSO LIVE IN A VARMINT RICH STATE....MONTANA...THANKS A LOT FOR ALL YOUR EFFORTS. Den

@andystampfli9127 9 ай бұрын

Referencing humidity and temperature... So what you're saying... Low temperature and humidity are less dense. However I actual flight, less temp makes the air more dense creating more lift. There's actually a formula to adjust your "altitude density" for temperature and humidity. Meaning your flight is less responsive at higher temperature/ humidity. Or are we saying the same thing from different perspectives?

@EDCandLace 9 ай бұрын

I'm right handed but left eye Dom. So I shoot guns and bows left handed.

@jw3946 10 ай бұрын

What about shooting in hail? Need to discuss.

@worsiebbenar730 10 ай бұрын

Hello Ron, my name is Johan from South Africa I've been following your channel for sometime and enjoyed everyone of your podcast and programs. What a great channel and very informative. One of your programs you were talking about scout rifles, i've developed a fascination about it. From listening and reading about scout rifles i got the impression that mostly the 308 caliber is most commonly used for a scout rifle build. I'm no expert but would like to know your advice and even recommendations on my idea of building a scout rifle from a old 303 Lee Enfield no1 mk3 i inherited awhile back, what makes this rifle so unique is it has the magazine cut off which will allow to fire single shots and run from the magazine. Will the short barrel i'm thinking of cutting the barrel to 16" be sufficient to stabilize a 168g or 174gr bullet or what's your recommendation on bullet weight. Heck i'm not even sure what twist rate it has. Is it worth it can i get it as close as possible to genuine scout rifle spec's as per Jeff Cooper requirements. so many questions. Again thank you for a great channel, hope to hear from you

@leoncolwin8645 10 ай бұрын

Please don't ruin an old classic rifle. Build a scout rifle on something else.

@whoshotashleybabbitt4924 10 ай бұрын

i agree with Leon. Please don’t hack up a wonderful piece of history.

@camwinston5248 10 ай бұрын

Enjoy your rifle build..and have fun with it !!

@swerwerindiewind7334 10 ай бұрын

Not easy to build a rifle in South Africa. We don’t have 1% of the choices you have in the USA. Old 303’s very common in SA, I bought one in the military for R300 in the 90’s… back then about 80$.

@leoncolwin8645 10 ай бұрын

@@swerwerindiewind7334 Can you get hold of a Zastava built Mauser? Or perhaps an older Musgrave? Or a Parker Hale?

@Airon79 9 ай бұрын

Does one grain matter ? Actually , that's why I'm getting into reloading ; to reload spent rounds or to recalibrate powder charges in factory loads .

@tlloyd9325 10 ай бұрын

This is for Cory. I would suggest a 45/70 but in a Encore. You can load it however you want or can stand. It’s only a 6 3/4# rifle and very easy to handle in the brush. I just load to the original loading of 405gr cast flat nose bullets at around 1250fps. You can jump it up but no need.

@DB-yj3qc 10 ай бұрын

Not Cory, but interesting perspective. I had always wanted a TC Encore and 300 Win Mag that was one the other 30/06 when I got it 20 years ago. Easy to carry brutal on firing until muzzle break and suppressor. That could be an interesting opportunity to get 45/70 as a reloader.

@tlloyd9325 10 ай бұрын

@@DB-yj3qc you can load from mild to wild. I have never found a need to push up the velocity. It has one shot and the are DRT. I like it because I truly believe in it. Mine has a 2-7 Leupold on it. I can shoot out to two hundred yards easy. With cast bullets, and 15gr of Unique, it is a joy to shoot.

@peteee1067 10 ай бұрын

Can you do a video on light weight 130ttsx 3006 and Light weight 3006AI, not much AI videos around for thr 3006.

@jjgriffin3275 10 ай бұрын

short answer...... YES

@abencherif 10 ай бұрын

Righthanded and left eye dominant ! Do not make him a lefty (though it might help later to be ambidextrous (!?). The oldtimer trick is to wear glasses. Have him point his gun at a fixed target; look at his left eye in relation to the front sight and clear tape a small piece over the left glass. Not being able to focus with his left eye, his right eye will take over.

@stephenfowler4115 8 ай бұрын

Whether one grain affects accuracy or not depends on how accurate a particular load is to begin with.

@RonSpomerOutdoors 8 ай бұрын

I don't think that's necessarily the case, Stephen. Many handloaders have discovered that a 1-grain change, up or down, can turn a 2 MOA load into MOA. Or something similar.

@mchughcb 9 ай бұрын

1 grain, 2 grains, 3 grains makes no difference to my 416 rem mag. That SOB kick that hard anyway.

@ethimself5064 10 ай бұрын

👍👍

@jeffjeffery1124 10 ай бұрын

where is the discussion or answer to the 1 grain question?

@bobbob8229 10 ай бұрын

The "answer"to the "Weather Beeaay" -- a politician's answer... You're better than that 😮

@whoshotashleybabbitt4924 10 ай бұрын

ChatGPT is trolling Ron with “fake E-mails”!

@dildenusa 4 ай бұрын

1 grain makes a difference when the amount of powder you are trying to replicate in your loads is a small amount like with a 22 caliber. As the amount of powder you are trying to replicate increases and reaches amounts that would be found in medium and large bore magnum cartridges small differences have less effect.

@robertpatterson762x51 10 ай бұрын

You always need a new rifle and new caliber…… you just don’t know it yet and if your having trouble deciding between which rifle or caliber …..always both ! 🇺🇸🤪👍

@michiganguy9649 10 ай бұрын

I I would like to know the hidden car of a 44 Magnum with a 240 grain bullet is pushing it at 1352 s what would be the actual knockdown power at 50 years and been able to have anybody answer this question hopefully you can

@myparceltape1169 10 ай бұрын

Some people are surprised that a grown man has never seen the Northern Lights.

@billyhancock7851 Ай бұрын

You can tell those people that millions below about the 40th parallel have never seen the Northern lights. Not everyone has the opportunity to attend this magnificent work of artistry.