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This is, probably, a pretender- faker, fraud poster. Nasty .

Hickok45 coming in cold as ice, damn

Dang. My wife runs way better than me. Time to find plan B.

I agree, don't underestimate black bears, my father's friend was attacked and killed east of Great Slave Lake NWT, he went outside his fishing cabin after midnight to pee, bear jumped him he died. That was around 2006. In 2014 I was working at Suncor base plant Ft. Mcmurray Canada when a 37 year old lady was stalked and killed by a black bear in spring.

I lived up there.hidson hope white horse watson lake..yes black bears will stalk and kill.​@dwaynemcallister7231

I read in several publications that black bears are more afraid of you than you are of them. Problem is bears don't read

Hey Ron, what about a good dog or two. On the trail they are the best ground seeking radar against being surprised by a bear either at home or in the wild and they can be trained to not make noise unless you're at risk.

Hey, we're neighbors. I don't underestimate black bears but I know that they are far more prone to run away. They are also much easier to intimidate with aggressive behavior, but I found some HUGE black bear tracks down on South Fork one time that I wouldn't care to find out if he ran or not. That guy had to be 500lbs if he was an ounce and he didn't seem to be too intimidated by all the grizzly tracks that were around.

I hunted in areas with high black bear populations, but they did not overly concern me. I hunted areas with high grizzly bear populations and that seriously got my attention. I always carried a Ruger SS in .45 Colt with 300gr Nosler partitions. Pepper spray is like giving someone a bottle of hot sauce to go with their chicken dinner!

​@ralphgreenjr.2466 The hiss, or strangeness from a human spraying bear spray is enough to stop a bluff charge. Many experienced guides claim most charges are bluffs, so it stands to reason that people who spray during a bluff charge became overly confident in their spray. A serious bear will plow through any spray, and all people should know that.

I've spent much of my life here in Wyoming, much of it in NW Wyoming in mixed bear country. If you have time to try a non lethal methods in hopes of a bluff charge, people will read about you. We have high winds..persistent bears and terrain that doesn't allow for much advance time. I dint recommend bear spray in the western mountains. If you want to try that in the Ozarks or Blue Mountains around deer camp, you may be fine.

Bears behave very differently in different areas. Bears in Nome tend to run at the sight of a gun. Just outside of Nome, you better be packing. In Anchorage, the bears have no fear of man at all.

@@5jjt You are accounting for the different environmental factors. All environments aren't the same.

And indifferent.

The good Colonel was a dumb ass.

NGL you should really consider upping to a 180gr Barnes TTSX or something similar. I have used the corelokts for decades, and they do work, but I have had MANY instances of bullets just not exiting animals, and have pulled many from animals that were in the 120-130gr(ish) area for retained weight. Ultimately they are not ideal for bigger animals IE moose elk, big bears ect Going to an all copper Barnes or similar you have 99% weight retention meaning you can even go to a 150-165gr load and have more velocity, more expansion, deeper penetration, and actually still have more weight vs 180 corelokts because they arent breaking up and shedding it. Just something to consider I switched to the Barnes TTSX and now LRX years ago and they are just simply better in every way. If you're only shooting 100yds with perfect broadside shots you're fine I guess but especially when you need to take a 2-3-400yd poke, it really starts to matter. Also much better option for bear defence as far as this topic goes lol the much better penetration and expansion of the Barnes FAR surpassed the Corekokt and the retained weight plays a big part in that as well But the bullet exiting the animal is just huge. Even with a perfect shot a big animal can run 100yds, and if you don't have 2 holes pumping out blood, tracking them can be extremely difficult and depending on terrain and environmental factors it's very easy to lose an animal even if the shot was perfect if they just aren't 🩸 enough or the bed down and get that single hole plugged up with mud and debris. And if heaven forbid the shot isnt perfect, a better performing bullet pays HUGE dividends and gives that little extra wiggle room for success, or at very least gives ya far more blood to follow as they can't easily plug TWO holes by bedding down.

That is it in a nutshell.

Never been attacked have you. You MIGHT have 2-5 seconds to respond. Spray NEVER works in a real attack & only pisses a bluffing bear off more into a full attack. Anymore goofy questions?

@@tristantimothy1004 Chill dude. Bear spray has been proven effective for nuisance bears, good caliber firearms for bear attacks. That is what he wrote and what I agreed with. And, yes, I have been attacked by a bear and used environment for cover. I was too young to have had either firearm or spray but not too young to jump under a car and then onto a trailer boat and barricade myself. Residential black bear attacks are common in Florida. Were I to go to brown bear country, or in the woods with large black bear populations, I would carry no less than a .357 with hot ammo and bear spray to deter those wandering into camp.

Absolutely. That's where bear spray shines and consists of the majority of bear to human interactions.

​@@austinhuber3131, What is it about " Spray never works in a real attack & can turn a bluff charge into a real attack " you didnt get?

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I would not go around telling people what poop smells like(?).

@thetexasrat: then how do you get laid?

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@@yeayeasautoadventures I wouldn't know, but I'll take your word on it.

If you could ask every human through history who has been attacked by a bear "Hey the day you were attacked. Did you think you were going to get attacked?" They would all say no. That is your friends mindset. Tons of people are oblivious to danger every day. You can choose to be like them, or not.

​@@eriklarson9137, Correct! Bears dont attack you, until they DO. Failing to be prepared is preparing to fail.

​@@tristantimothy1004 Hear, hear.

The grizzly vs black bear attacks across Canada are at 60% vs 40%. Probably because most people are too relaxed around black bears. During the day most black bears have just ignored me, versus the grizzly that are usually at least watching me, but if I am still moving as the sun goes down they seem a lot more interested in me. On average. The cats always creep me out though, have seen a few show themselves in the distance just as I am climbing into the truck. There is a reason I do most of my off trail activities on crown land, the national parks are firearm free zones.

​@@requited2568, Been through Canada a LOT over the decades. Alaska to Arizona runs. Loved it! Awesome people there & made many friends. Spent lots of times in your parks & wilderness areas. However, the last few years things changed. All for the worse. Initially we could bring our handguns through but they had to be sealed in a govt plastic bag & still sealed upon leaving Canada. Then NO handguns allowed at all. Then NO guns whatsoever. Peoples attitude changed too. NON for the better. Our phones didn't work & we couldnt get a canadian phone being non citizens. Lousy highway Alcan markers & getting lost was a nightmare. Your people thought it was real funny to intentionally misdirect us. Your major citys had turned into homeless shitholes. The only people who gave us correct info was your police. Our last trip North 5 years ago was a nightmare. Usually wed stop over for days at Laird Hot Springs but the govt had fenced it all off & set up check in gates & not even bearspray was allowed in, not even in our vehicles. There had been several fatal bear attacks there & NO methods of personal bear protection were allowed. Not even a hunting knife. WHAT HAPPENED to our beautiful CANADA??? That last experience was so bad we just quit going through. Staying in Alaska or flying across. Trudeau & his buddies really phucked your country up. Our gold mining friends were arrested way out in the middle of nowhere because they had anti bear shotguns on them. RCMP Helicopter flew over & saw them. They had to bury their bear shotguns outside of town to defend themselves in the bush & rebury them before coming back into town. They said your violent crime is skyrocketing & your laws do NOTHING about it. Granted, here in America its going that way too. The demonazies party of Satan is insuring that. I guess thats what happens when country goes Godless. Good is eliminated & EVIL rules.

I'm also in western WA.. agree with you. Cougars freak me out. Bears pretty much run away

Unless a black bear is wounded.

​@@awwwshucks443until one is wounded....I've been charged by 100% of thr wounded black bears I've been a part of finding.

That's fair... Any wounded animal is extremely dangrous

That is a great point. I only hunt blacktail and elk. So I've never had to track a wounded bear. I would imagine it could get a little hairy.

Question. When will a gun shot off deter a bear in itself?

​@shelleypilcher3812 it can, yes. Especially if it's a bluff charge. But that doesn't always work on predatory animals. For example, I was confronted by a mountain lion about a month ago that came into my coyote call at night (hunting with thermal and night vision). After yelling without any response or movement from the cat, I fired two warning shots that also didn't make the cat budge. If it would have taken one more step, I would have had to take it down, but thankfully it finally walked away. He was 27 yards away. I actually have that encounter recorded on the thermal I was using on my helmet mounted setup. Was a fun time.

I have read comments from people who live in outback Alaska and a 12 guage shotgun loaded with rifled slugs is their go to bear defense. I watched a video on you tube where a dude shot a 12 guage slug 400 yards and it went through a 1/2" plyboard. I visited an Alaskan Indian village called Icey Straight Point and when the Indians go into the forest, they take a dog with them.

@@HughButler-lb6zs That's what I used to carry. Winchester Defender 1300 loaded with rifled slugs. I've seen bear tracks several times on my hikes but luckily never ran into a beer. Nowdays I also carry a pepper spray and a whistle. I blow into the whistle every now and then to let the wildlife know I'm there.

Amen!

One of the funniest stories I ever read.

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It's not 1980 any longer. Move up to a .500.

​@@eriklarson9137.460 s&w puts out more energy and has fewer frames blowing up in people's faces

​@@eriklarson9137, Ya, bullshit. Last summer a friend emptied his 500 into a charging griz. Last shot at 2 feet hit the bears spine & dropped it. Its momentum knocked him off his feet & he went flying. Entire cylinder emptied into the bears body, His friends shot it in the face finally killing it w their 10mms. Now he carries a 10 too. Says a gun he can control beats one he cant. Hot bear slugs in both. Most folks just dont understand bears. Even with their hearts & lungs shot clean out they can still keep going on rage adrenalin & muscle memory long enough to still kill you. Bears brain is behind its FACE. The " magic triangle. Across the eyes down to its nose is a guaranteed brain shot. We had a F&G officer who only carried a 40 S&W his entire career. No specialty bear slugs back then. Only had regular FMJs. He shot several attacking bears in the FACE up close & retired unscathed. Laughed at the big bore guys. Said hed never seen any bear attack anybody by running at th

​@@eriklarson9137, Oops, hit send too early. He said hed never seen any bear attack anyone by running at them backwards & he waited until they were too close to miss & face shot em. Never needed more than 1 shot. Course, he did get knocked over a few times from the bears momentum but never mauled. In the FACE or at the bottom of the ear sideways is a positive brain hit & instantly fatal. Some lil native girl in Canada killed a HUGE record griz w only a single shot 22 long. In the eye. Not an L.R. but a simple long. Basically, a 22 short in a long case. Our bushlady friend killed a ton of bears with her single shot, short bbl 22 L.R. rifle. In the eye, up the nose or under the ear sideways. Said she shot em the moment they looked at her. Never gave em a chance to attack her. Course, she could snap shoot a running squirrel in the head at 50 yards too. She died peacefully in an old folks home in her bed, smiling. Christian woman.

I believe this is the most overlooked problem with bear spray. When deploying bear spray in Wyoming, you’re screwed 75% of the time.

A 5.56 is really good. Its a light wieght round and what it lacks in knockdown it makes up for in velocity. A semi auto like an AR15 or Mini14 with a 30 round mag and extremely light tecoil means 5 rounds or more with very little off target time. And honestly i dont know what it is but they are loud. For a liggt grain round it causes a lot of cavitation and shock to tissue. Its up in the air but between a 5.56 semi auto or a 45-70 lever if not hunting one, i think I would choose a 5.56. Simply I can put 5 shouts with a 5.56 as quick as I can fire 1 and work the lever or bolt and get back on target.

@@daveweed2765 That's a good point. A 556 with it's velocity, capacity, and cavitation would be good for defense.

Mine is 444 Marlin shooting 305 grain FPP.

@@FranzAntonMesmerthe “Green Mushroom” tactic… touché, sir… Touché

Question is are you shooting dem depleted uranium rounds or HE rounds???

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@@EDCandLace​​⁠​⁠depleted uranium, for sure. Sectional density is around .379.

All that and you still can't beat my pa paw's 270

By far.....

If you have a gun. Watch Death Wish.

That's not saying much

"dinner!"

Exactly! Statistics can be skewed. Hapens all the time.

@@thedalillama Catch a flight to Tijuana as the Biden Administration has very few Border Patrol on the Southern Border.

​@@thedalillama, So whats your " friend" going to do once across? Cant get a vehicle to travel, cant get a phone unless your a proven canadian citizen. NO guns allowed at all. If caught the Canadians arent going to play around & unlike Biden illegals arent welcome & severely punished. The RCMP arent whimps whos hands are tied like our law enforcement is & they will severely kick your ass both before & in prison. Canadians have no right & a dictator president w NO Constitution or Bill of Right to ignore like the demonazies here are doing. Tell your " friend" hed be wise to get a passport first or just fly over Canada to wherever.

@@thedalillamawell unfortunately last thing we need is more illegals

I beat that. 43 in one year on the Queen Charlotte Islands. I do have some doubts about your rcmp member claim of 36 in one year, as during my career as a CO in many remote postings in B.C., CO’s rarely kill that many in one season. CO’s are the primary responders to bear complaints so I think I have the experience to speak to this issue.

@@thedalillamacross at Roxham Road and the RCMP will carry your bags and arrange for accommodation. You will be a Liberal voter forever.

There is no such thing as a shotgun, rifle or hand gun that is too powerful for bear protection. When you have literally been within the paws reach of the largest Grizzly Bear that I have ever seen, you gain a deep respect for how dangerous that animal really is. Predators do sometimes respect other Predators. If you are well armed and fearless, then you are also a predator. If you are afraid, then you ARE prey. Great respect with great caution goes a long way towards Bear protection. Enjoy the wilderness safety and live to see many more pleasant days.

Pepper gel. Does not diffuse like spray. Sabre home defence etc,

Btj - what an incredibly refreshing thing to hear from someone with a day-in, day-out, lifetime of experience behind what they say, and a wide perspective not clouded by a testosterone overload. Great info: much appreciated.

@@timmanion2197 Like those taking such risks have a reduced testosterone, as high testosterone is equated with calmness in stressful situations.

@@my_channel_44 FOX 5.3 or NEWER 1.4 .

Creigh, I wouldnt go out w an unarmed " guide". Every Alaskan i know packs when fishing or just out. Even in town because we have bears there too.

@@tristantimothy1004 One should carry whatever makes them feel safe. My final thoughts are how many people can effectively use a pistol as a 1000 lb of angry bear is charging them?

​@@creightonsmith5333, Actually, more than one would think. AK. F&G records are filled w cases of folks who stopped charging bears w handguns. Most at very close range ( feet) shot in the face ( where theyre brains at) at the last moment w everything from 500s to 22 L.R. As a bushman having been attacked 5 times & killed 2 of thoes bears w a pistol (44) at point blank i can attest to the amazing way we are built. When the adrenaline dumps we go into hyperdrive & things around you seem to go into slow motion. Ones reaction time jumps exponentially & theres that singular moment the mind has an absolute clarity where doing what you have to do becomes very easy. And any bear, no matter how big it is will die w a face/ brain shot instantly. We had a F&G officer who did his entire career w only a S&W 40 cal using regular FMJs who face shot several charging bears & dropped em all. He waited til they were too close to miss & brain shot em all. Granted, he did get knocked off his feet a few times by the bears momentum but never mauled. Both my pistol shot bears were point blank w the muzzle shoved hard into their chest & the 320 grain Hardcasts just blew their hearts out through their spine. But neither of thoes were charging ground shots. Up a tree in my stand. ALL the blast gasses from the 44 went into the bear as well amplifying the effect & they were just lil black bears. A 5 & a 6 footer. Came up the tree so fast i barely had time to grab the Redhawk in my lap & shove the muzzle into their chest while firing. Ones teeth were already trying to close on my face. Shot the other 3 w a rifle. The giant blackie @ 100 yards center sternam w the 45/70 hot loaded & dropped him like a sack if bricks, The 1st grizzly charging up a steep hill at 10 feet w a 375 H&H & the last small grizzly point blank in the chest w my wifes 243. Lil 85 grain softnose slug went through a front rib into its heart where it exploded. Its momentium knocked me for a backflip where id landed on my feet w another shell jacked into the chamber for that last desperate possible eye shot but the bear was down & never got back up. That charge started at 10 feet as it popped up over the ridge, surprised us both. Bad encounter! He stood up, let out the death roar & lunged. I had the rifle by the middle. My DOG came out of nowhere, flew over my shoulder landing on the bears face attacking its nose which stopped it just long enough to get my finger back down to the trigger & shove the muzzle into its chest & fire as the bear just flung my dog off like a rag doll just as i fired. That bear would have got me were it not for the dog. Too close, too fast, too surprised. Id seen ducks going up our creek the day before, saw the pressure walls in the creeks surface & thought it was the ducks again just behind the ridge i was running out to shoot. Turned out the pressure waves were caused by that bear crossing the creek. It never even occured to me it was a bear & i DIDN'T grab my backup handgun racing out the door of our cabin. Rookie mistake and i know better. Though i was going to get a duck dinner. Was the bear instead. Lil bitty 7 footer. Probably its first year away from its mother. In THAT case id have much rather had my 10mm instead. I KNOW I could have easily stopped that bear w that. Face shot up close.

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Up here in Alaska the Brennikie Black Magic slugs are favored as THE favorite norm. Course, with all the new designs coming out we never had before its a hard call. Shotguns are basically cabin guns. The shells malfunction if they get wet or in high humidity unless theyve been weatherproofed. And getting wet up here is pretty normal.

I can shot a .22 longrifle pistol very well. Fast and accurately. Don't think I will want to try and use it for bear defense, except as a last option. I think you should say use the biggest caliber that you can shot well. In my case that would be the 45 Colt. It has light recoil and an excellent record of success.

​@@thetexasratI'd rather a 22 over a can of aerosol seasoning...

Great advice. Screw what ballistics are needed to drop your intended target. Just think of your poor wrist. Wouldn't want to hurt yourself. Great advice!

David Paulides recently recommended Air Horn. Wondering if Shofar sound would also deter a bear?

could you recommend a particular size/brand? air horns come in different sizes.

@@glory5918 Walmart Soda Can Size Air Horn, Shofar 🕎✝️Takes Years of Practice, i Have one, Besides Easier to Carry🙏🏽

​@@glory5918Only if the bear is living a sinful life.

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Energy in the mid 500s to low 600s, it's a great round but 750-800ftlbs on 10mm.. SD will be slightly higher on a hot 10mm load sooooo yeah 10mm is the better round. I would put 357sig up there tho, it's a solid handgun round that's really putting the thump down on whatever it hits.

DXB, Too many. The failure rate on bearspray is huge & it NEVER works in a real attack.

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Lol I believe that has happened in PA

Maybe, but basement dwellers do get eatin by RATS!

@tristantimothy1004 Wow... I didn't think about rats. Haven't seen any, but I'll keep my eyes open.

Probably coming soon!

bear spray is only good for a bear that is not charging, which just so happens to be down wind. other than that it is useless and a waste of precious time.

@@thetexasrat that is very much not true. The main intended use for bear spray is to turn a charge. And if it happens to be charging from upwind you're still better off using it than not using it. You're posting your opinion, which happens to be at odds with the advice given by bear researchers, state and provincial wildlife branches, wilderness park staff, and also at odds with the statistical record. Unfortunately there's a lot of bias connected with how people see themselves and others i.e. redneck/treehugger and with the politics of gun control. When a grizzly is charging you it doesn't give a crap about any of that. For me, being in Canada, a handgun isn't permitted anyway. We can only transport handguns to and from a registered target shooting range and without stopping for gas or groceries along the way. We can't carry them in wilderness, and we have plenty of wildlife. I've never personally known anyone to carry a rifle or shotgun when not hunting, except rarely when we were doing forestry work in the era before bear spray. In that case we carried a short barrelled12 ga pump with pistol grip and with the warning that it might not stop a charge. Most of the time, even though it was grizzly country and we each worked our areas solo, we didn't carry anything other than our eyes, ears and common sense. When I'm solo in my favorite area of the British Columbia fjord country bear spray is my only physical deterrent. Of course I do other things to minimize the risk of a surprise grizzly encounter in the first place.

it's even worse if the bear has been snorting cocaine. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/etuHeKh8yrCwfX0.html

Glock21 with the 460 conversion is awesome.

I have a Springfield Armory XD-45 converted to 460 Rowland. Love it.

comment in AK - Air Horns work

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Lmao on the quitting smoking.

You need to write children’s books.

I bought same gun it’s 629 deluxe 44mag with underwood 305gr hard cast ammo

It's an expensive solution. Some people recommend 10 mm.

Do you still think others consider the .44 a powerful cartridge? Lol at that. It's no longer 1970. Move up to a real caliber.

@@eriklarson9137 Have you seen a S&W 500 in person? I have held one too. It has to be one of the most ridiculous firearms out there. It's as long as your thigh bone. If you told me it was 7 pounds, I'd believe you. I've seen rangers carry it. It doesn't make sense to me.

​@@thedalillama, Whats your life worth? I guarantee the cost will be the LAST thing youll be thinking of when the SHTF. Reloading is another option but the setup isnt cheap. Thats an ever changing science for the truly dedicated high volume guys. The 10mm is more than enough, especially in todays high volume magazines but again, one has to be dedicated & PRACTICE A LOT. Here in Alaska the 10mm is taking over because they work. Lighter, faster & more likely to be kept ON you. Too many cases of folks setting their rifles down just out of reach when the SHTF. A good backup pistol ON YOU is SOP.

I use the federals as well. My first round is a 2 shot nitro mags for a face shot that will blind them.

Less than any real cartridge. If that is the only cartridge you know about, it's time to start reading. That is a baby round.

​@@eriklarson9137 What do you suggest?

Is there any evidence of the effectiveness of Brenneke Black Magic slugs used on bears? I bought some for my 12 ga but haven't seen any studies on their effectiveness.

@@desertracer2254 AK State Troopers use them exclusively.

Does this person stand to gain anything from your demise? Im joking but without penetration into a vital organ, hopefully the brain, or deep destructive wound channels atleast, that bear isn’t going to be dead fast enough for my liking, I’ve never been in the situation but I’ve looked into it extensively, of course the KZfaq consensus isn’t hard science but lots of info on there is based on extensive penetration testing and hunting experience. Also warning shots are supposed to be 70% effective according to a recent lucky gunner video but that’s an if

A Ruger Redhawk revolver chambered in 45 Colt, with Underwood Ammo's 250 grain Xtreme Penetrator rounds. It is a six shot revolver (Revolvers do not fail to extract or fail to feed, and they will still work if and when pressed into a bears ribs) which is plenty of ammo to get the job done. The 45 Colt also has light recoil for easy follow-up shots. Go to one knee and shot for the bear's brain.

@@thetexasrat Am a retired cop (Deputy Sheriff and Police Officer). Was forced not carry revolvers back in the day. I had three jam - all high quality, S&Ws (mods 28, 15, and 19). If / when my semi autos jam: tap-rack-back to battery. When my wheel guns jammed, it was: king's x, stop what I was doing, take gun to gunsmith, wait 2 to 7 days, go back to gunsmith, get gun, then - finally - back to battery. Revolvers can, and sometimes do, fail to feed, revolve or shoot. Anything mechanical can break.

Yeah but can you control the recoil to reliably put rounds on target when it's a charging bear? That's a wholeeee Lotta recoil to deal with in a high panicked situation.

That 500 is a stupid gun to shoot and if you don’t crack your elbow it will shake your brains and eye balls so just bend your elbo and the will come straight back and it has a ported barrel . If you don’t bend your elbo you may only one shot and if have shot it a few times it’s not fun and you need ear protection with a tree in front ground of you and sound bounce from the tree right back at you and your ears will ring for a hour or two . So good luck with the 500 !

User, Still TROLLING! AGAIN showing your ignorance. The B.B. hardcasts are 430 grains @ 2300 fps. Thats over twice your statement. Almost 6000 fpe. And youve never shot a 460 or 500 in your life. Apparently never a bear loaded 45/70 either.

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BYU ?

Thanks for the insights!

Lol, no

No need to ..41/ 44 are close enough to be considered the same , as far as effectiveness..41 is just a dead cal.

@@ChrisBoon-kq3en your crazy ...41 mag has significantly less recoil than a 44 and penetrates deeper than a 44...thats why smart hunters love the 41 mag... and it come close in energy ft lbs

@@ChrisBoon-kq3en its not a dead cartridge...it can make a resurgence like the 10mm did...once people stop goin off whats in style or what guns come out in certain movies and actually go out and test things...

Check it out 10 mm and 41 mag, Perry closes

@@davidbrenneman3581 with real full power 41 mag...its not even close at all...

These human beings.