At 1:17:02 Dr. Hoodbhoy pointed out the main problem. Fundamentalism in a certain religion or sect leads to intolerance and this intolerance causes rise of fundamentalism in other sect/ religion. For example as you pointed out the BJP as fundamentalist government, it arose in India opposing muslim fundamentalism. Because majority of Muslim society does not want to be in a secular state, they did not assimilate into Indian society just because their belief of them being superior. So Hindus while resisting to intolerant Muslim fundamentalism, became Hindu fundamentalist.

BJP has unified all sections of majority community at polling booth. But policies implemented does not discriminate based on religion. Earlier regimes pampered Ashrafias to get collective vote bank and inturn Ashrafias used religion and past Moghul glory to subjugate Pasmanda Muslims. Muslim community in India and Pakisthan awam have gone thru the same experiences in 75 years. Both sides Mullahs ,Strict adherence to Quoran and conniving polical class are real culprits

Only 5% comments are from Pakistan, whereas 95% comments are from Hindus of Hindustan🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳. This explains a lot wrt why Pakistan is in this condition...

Pakistan will stew in its religious idiocracy - thank you Jinnah for severing this problem from India.

In Gujarat India people vote for Modi bcoz ease of doing business that started when Modi was CM of Gujarat.

Interesting and somewhat enlightened discussion. Being from india lived there for 79 years, I would say india , including bjp, are not fundamentalist in any sense. If there are some voices comming up now, it is because of fundamentalism of emanating from muslim world ie Saudi Arab Pakistan bangaladesh, iran(1979), afganistan, turkey. If hindus were fundamentalists in real sense, islam would not have gained ground in indian sub continent.

The basic difference between Hindustan 🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳 and Pakistan is religion.. Hindu believes in inclusiveness whereas muslim believes in fanaticism... If in Hindustan muslim becomes a majority then Hindustan will become Pakistan

I feel Dr. Hoodbouy has limited exposure to Hindu thought. He needs to study Hindu thought, particularly as propounded in Upnishads. Unfortunately, Muslims see Hinduism only thru negatives like caste. Over the last 75 yrs, Pakistanis have been totally blinded by Hindu hatred.

India is a pluralistic country too. You just have to be blind not to see its unity in diversity.

Roots of Islamic fundamentalism is the fundamentals of Quran and ahadiths.

Mr Hoodboy, please check the comments. Mostly from india. Pakistanis for whom you are conducting these sessions are nowhere to be seen in comments apart from few live attendees and out of these 50% will reject your idea after leaving the session, which means nobody in Pakistan cares about what you are saying. Great sessions.

India is shining don't worry about us.

I find Mr Pervez understanding of RSS and Hinduism very limited. There is a seriously low understanding on this topic in Pak.

Fundamentalism Har us country me hoga jaha islam 1st ya 2nd major religion hoga.

One of the most remarkable Nobel statistics is that 22 per cent of winners have been Jewish, despite our people comprising less than 0.2 per cent of the world's population....🙏

Islam is a political religion. A political religion is the one whose basic teaching requires that its beliefs and practices cannot be fulfilled till the political power rests with its followers. This is like the political ideologies of democracy, Marxism or Fascism which cannot be implemented till the political power rests with is followers or ideologues. Prophet Mohammad implemented political Islam when he established an Islamic state in Medina supplanting earlier Jews followed by the capture of Mecca. After his death in 632, political Islam covered vast swathes of territory in the middle east, Africa and central Asia and the Indian subcontinent as well. Everywhere it was the political Islam which ruled where non-Muslims in principle could not prevail unless they pay jiziyya or be converted into the only true faith of Islam. Islam is nothing unless it be political. Another political religion was Zoroastrianism as it was the state religion of all pre-Islamic Persian empires, but it disappeared quickly after the fall of Sassanids in Iran. The only political religion in full sense before Islam was Judaism, but compared with Islam it was minuscule in its political dimension beyond the Hasmonean kingdom or a few others till the establishment of Israel in 1948. Besides its political apparatus was much earlier destroyed by the Romans in the year 70. Further Judaism unlike Islam was not a universal political religion as it did not aspire to rule the world, but its political ambitions were confined to the Promised Land. To begin with, Christianity was not a political religion, but it partly turned political when it became the state religion of Roman Empire in the 4th century and survived specially in its Catholic version till its demise in the Treaty of Westphalia (1648). Hinduism, Buddhism, Jainism or other pagan faiths like the African Voodoo or the Japanese Shintoism are not political as they do not ask their followers to wage jihad till they become Hindus, Voodooists, Shintos and so on. Hence no Hindu or Buddhist jihadists or suicide bombers. There can be no religious fundamentalism unless its religion is political. Hence there can be no Hindu, Buddhist, Jain, Voodoo or Shinto fundamentalism. The only political religion at present being Islam so there there can be only Islamic fundamentalism. Q.E.D.

No matter how much muslim is progressive their views on Hinduism is very narrow. The basic root of Hinduism and bharatvarsh is based on spirituality and divinity which is impossible to understand from islamic lens.

Indians is are more interested in such conversation than pakistanis themselves, which is almost fundamental (pardon the pun) to their survival.

True. Intolerance leads to fundamentalism leads to extremism leads to terrorism. Root cause is intolerant thought.

Speaker plays safe because he is aware of 'sir tan se juda' and blasphemy law in papistan!

People need to realise the main reason for Modi to win 2 times is the ultimate failure of congress to respond after the Mumbai terror attack and commonwealth games. At least now most of the issue is concentrated to Kashmir and most of the country is free from annual bomb blast. And anyone who thinks Indian democracy is in danger need to realise people voted for BJP . If congress for once didn’t think why they lost and change there way they’ll gonna lose 3rd time too.

Mujhe nehi lagta pakistan m philosophy pedhai jaati hogi...bcz Islam mei khulker koi religion or god per question Nehi ker sakte jabki Hinduism or Christianity mei khulker religion or god ko bhi criticise kiya jata hai ..

Buniyaad Prasti of Mynamar, Sri Lanka etc. That you mentioned is not the same as the buniyaad prasti of Muslims. Please dig deeper and you will find the buniyaad prasti of non-Muslims is mainly a reactive measure by the non-Muslims to deal with or say counter Muslim buniyaad prasti. Same is also true of the scene in India. Savarkar (considered Hindu buniyaad prast by a lot of people) once said: I am Hindu because you are Muslim. In other words, I have to assert my hinduness because you are asserting your muslimness. Otherwise we could all live as just Indians and keep our religious practices confined to our respective homes.

One thing I observed is that those so called secular islamic scholars talk about the present Indian Govt as non secular. In conclusion when it comes to Hindu they are all equally expert in intolerance towards India & Hindu.

54:53 Impressed by the question from the audience. Paraphrased: The European enlightenment was inspired from the Greek culture and philosophy. Can any similar inspiration be drawn from the History and culture of the subcontinent? I am summarily disappointed at the lack of historical depth of the intellectual elite of Pakistan. They cannot seem to the go beyond the supremacist historiography of the West and derive inspiration from their own blood. The schism in the identity of the Muslim in the Subcontinent is complete. It does not matter if he/she is a jihadi, a communist or a liberal. Despite all the "secular" education they had, the Hindu is too najis(unclean) to deserve any unprejudiced study. All the Hindu has is the caste system. Really? That is your intellectual depth and academic rigour. - - - - - - - - - - - - Let me try and introduce a fresh perspective. Some preliminary facts: 1. The Europeans here refer to the Christian civilization. This very civilization was responsible for the extinction of the Greco-Roman Civilization. 2. The Greeks and the Romans were pluralistic, non-abrahamic(pagan) societies that believed in assimilation of different beliefs within them. It was very common to include the different entities of identity and worship from the various Greek tribes in the unified Greek Pantheon and myths were developed around them to stitch the Civilization together. This very thing was offered to the Christians but they refused to accept the pantheon of the Greeks. 3. The Athenian democracy that is idolized in the west is not an ideal model. This was a society practicing slavery with significant social hierarchy and suffrage was not universal. However, it is much better than most models and can be improved upon. - - - - - - - - - - - - Now, coming to the question. I am assuming all of the attendees here belong to the Subcontinent. The Pre-islamic culture here is very similar to the Greco-Roman culture. In fact it is more similar to the Ancient Greek Culture than the Modern Greek Culture is to its past. Similar to the Greeks this society has an enormous capability to assimilate. There has been historic successful assimilation of the Bactrian Greeks, Huns, Shakas(Scythians), Kushans, preliminary Turks in the Western Frontiers and the Tai in the Eastern Frontiers. These people are now indistinguishable from the subcontinent population. Also, the entire geography of the Subcontinent is involved in the narrative making for the Civilization. Each region has contributed to the Civilizational corpus at different points in time. The Hindu pantheon is a great example. There are deities from across the land. Even other figures of worship like the Buddha, Mahavir and the Sikh Gurus find place in the Hindu Pantheon. Stories and myths are developed around this to create cohesion and acceptance. Every Hindu child is brought up in this manner. The first challenge to this system was posed by the invading Muslims who could not place their deity among those of the kafirs. Subsequent challenges have been posed by Christianity. Now coming to the Philosophical and Scientific background of the subcontinent. The Hindu Darshan(philosophy) has 6 major streams the Shatdarshan: Nyaya, Vaisheshik, Samkhya, Yoga, Purva Mimansa and Uttar Mimansa or Vedanta, and 3 minor streams: Boudda, Jaina and Charvaka. The Hindu Contributions to Science has been fundamental to the progress of Science as we know it. Some notable mentions are: The Decimal System, Concept of zero, Placeholder notation system, Geometry(Sulbha sutras), Arithmetic(Ganit), Algebra(Beej-ganit), classification and nomenclature of plant and animal species based on their properties, surgery(Sushrut Samhita), ayurveda(Charak Samhita) etc. Even the Al Khwarizmi's works on arithmetic and astronomy have been mostly translations of Indian texts. The corpus of Indian Philosophy and Sciences is many times over the total contribution of the Greeks and Romans. The Greeks did not even have an advanced system of numerals to develop their mathematics and the Roman numeral system cannot even quickly compute multiplication of large integers, leave alone fractions. The Indian Contributions to the arts is also phenomenal. But similar to most societies, India to had its evils like the Birth based Varna System in societal practice. This is however not a uniquely Hindu phenomenon. Even to this day Japanese, Chinese, Arab, Berber, South American, Meso American, Indonesian, Malay and Eastern Europeans still practice birth based and discrimination and occupational practices. Even the so called egalitarian religions like Islam, Christianity, Buddhism, Sikhism, etc. have birth based privileges and debilitations. I am thankful that the Hindu society has come to accept the existence of this social evil and is trying at all levels to eradicate it. However, it can be noted that throughout its existence subjugation of other humans to slavery has never been practiced by Hindus. This can be cross-checked by descriptions of Greek, Chinese and Arab travellers to the Subcontinent. The Story of Indian wealth as a percentage of global wealth has been well documented by Angus Maddison. This has been upwards of 30% of world's GDP at the start of the previous millennium before the advent of the Turko-islamic invasions of the subcontinent. - - - - - - - - - - - - Suffice to say there is a ocean of inspirations in the Subcontinent to get develop upon. The European christians started adoring their pagan forefathers after they had exterminated them. Perhaps the Indian converts to Islam will start this journey after cleansing the subcontinent of the Hindus. This is a pipe dream looking at the current state of things. Therefore, abject failure and a rock-bottom drop of the "Land of the Pure" Project will provide the necessary incentive to look at history beyond 1400 years. The fall of the West and Rise of the East will also act as a catalyst.

*_I Have Observed One Thing. When There's Discussion On Islamic Achievements. The Room Will Be Filled With Audience. Fundamentalism Is Not A Real Issue. It Is Part Of Sunnat._*

I disagree with some of the views specially about Hinduism. There is a huge difference between fundamentalist and right wing oriented. BJP Is not anti progress or anti science it is not a religious fundamentalist at all you can consider it as a right wing nationalist party like other right wing parties in Europe. We don’t have blasphemy laws here in India. You consider RSS as fundamentalist but they welcome LGBTQ community with open arms and RSS chief consider it as natural sexual tendency and also believes in scientific theories most of the RSS members are scientists,researchers,economist and historians they are not priest and few members are not even Hindu. Maybe you can make a point that Hinduism itself believes in pluralism and secularism we don’t say a particular book is only true book or our god is only true god! BJP came or rise to power only after 2014 then why Pakistan had same narrative even at time of congress rule? I’m surprised to see that even so called liberals and progressive Pakistanis have delusional vision of India.

It’s so disappointing to see so few in the crowd for Dr Parvez. If it was India, even Eden gardens wouldn’t have been large enough to hold the audience. He is in a wrong country.

1:00:29 - 1:01:51 uncle read history...bas talwar hi the...acchi chiz kuch nahi diya tha islam ne! Itne der bol ke ek bhi acchi chiz gina nahi sake😑 Unnecessary cover up karne ki jarurat nahi!😒

Hinduism is intrinsically secular.

They will talk and talk and talk, but never have gut to clearly condemn Quran, Hadiths, Sharia.

You cannot be secular and a believing Muslim at the same time young man over 75 years...

پاکستان کے لیے بنیاد پرستی سے دور جانے کے لیے - حل یہ ہے کہ وہ اپنی جڑوں، ہندو طرز زندگی کی طرف واپس چلے جائیں۔ اسلام کو چھوڑ کر نہیں بلکہ خالص، انسانی اور اچھی شکل میں اس کی پیروی کرنا اور ہندو طرز زندگی کو اپنانا۔

Roots of Fundamentalism in Islam is Quran, Hadith and life of Muhammad itself. Like father like son.

Israel and Pakistan are no comparison. Identity of Pakistan is anti Hindu, anti Bharath. Identity of Israel is not anti Nazi, anti Germany. That's the difference.

Basic problem of Pakistan is that no land reforms took place there. As a result landless people become recruits of both religious fundamentals and separatists.

parvez hoodboy is such an intelligent voice.pakistan would be a better place if there were more people like him there..

1:33:29 this guy spoke out the reality of what's happening in pakistan madarssa 👍

Congratulations Prof. Parvaiz for such an enlighted discussion Such programs reflect a different version of Pakistan.

It is the fundamental BELIEF that creates intolerance.

They don't talk zilch about history before Akbar. Shows their own ancestral ignorance. Height if Al Taqqiya.

We Hindustani🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳 thank Jenha for creating Pakistan and successfully seggrigating the Jihadis...

Philosophy pedhani hai toh Indian philosophy or western philosophy pedho....dimag hil jayega...☺️🙏

Unfortunately there is no one in Pakistan who can be called as India expert. Making views about something or someone based on Indian opposition is not true picture.

I am an Indian anf really like tge discussion. Though they are more specific to the Pakistan, but many of them such as this topic is universal in nature. I would like to add something here. I listen to Mr Engineer Ali Mirza and think that people like him are needed more. If the religion is a most influential thing for set of people them, then rational religious people are needed more

Secularism is the term used by Western social scientists. This cannot be applied to Asian countries as it is. The Hindu word "Sarv Dharm Sambhav" means for the state can have it's religion but at the same "the state should be equal to all religions.

Professor Hoodbhoy, I am an Indian and I applaud The Black Hole initiative. May the almighty give you and your students strength to take this forward. Best wishes.

I thought dear Dr. Hoodbhoy is Parsi but I was reading he is not..He is muslim. He is a thinker and think a lot about the condition of Pakistani nation.He is an honest man.

It is a matter om immense joy to see that Prof Hoodbhoy has taken an initiative to provide a public platform for such types of debates, which augers well for Pakistan. I hope this is indicative of change of mind set and perceptions dominating for last 75 years

Even intellectuals in Pakistan haven't understood India/BJP/Hindutva. It's great, as they will continue misreading India and won't realize how India grew soo fast while also soo rooted in its culture. There is a massive difference between Pakistan's fundamentalism of the 1960-70s and India's cultural resurgence happening right now. Topic for another debate, but the audience for that debate needs to be more well read

plural society meaning "a society composed of different ethnic groups or cultural traditions, or in the political structure of which ethnic or cultural differences are reflected"

I feel the most practical way forward for Pakistan is to have independent federal states of Punjab, Sindh, Balochistan and Khyber Pakhtunava having independent governance like USA states and centre controls only defence and Foreign relations till some Amity is achieved in the country.

I am a hindu. But not a very deeply studied person. I recollect one sentence from some VED that "Even a statement from Vedas must be taken with enquiry." This we do very freely. Probably, this is why - despite not having coverted even a single person with sword/ money - sanatan dharma still exists.

These guys themselves are discussing taliban and fundamentalism in Pakistan and says Indians should not be afraid of Islam and Muslims😂😂 bhai fir tum kyun darr rahe ho??

1:21:21 " islam hinduism se bhi jyada secular " iss bhai ko pucho daaru jyada toh nhi pili aaj

Aap log ko india k baare mei or BJP k baareei kuch nehi peta... BJP ek secular, democratic party hai...they support freedom of expression, they respect secular values. They support LGBTQ community . Read about India and Hinduism....read about BJP's history....

Please name a person who did not commit looting and murder and is a hero in the Islamic religion. A man of slave thinking who can't think of anything outside the narrative that West described himself as a hero of humanity. During Akbar's time, 5 lakh people were enslaved and sold in mandis. After reading the books written by Akbar or all these robbers, you can probably understand more well if you make an opinion about their character.

Seemingly impossible for a Muslim to treat religion as a purely spiritual endeavour and separate from politics.

India is developing under hindus don't worry about us.

Loved the part where Pervez and Farooq discuss Bernard Lewis. I believe Farooq has a more correct understanding. There is no opposition between Islam and Western civilization, because there is no Islam with a capital I. Muslims define what Islam is. Sometimes the majority of Muslims have defined it as being way ahead of others civilizations around them, as in early Muslim Era. Sometimes they've defined it as being more regressive than other civilizations around them, as in recent times. As any other religion, Islam is not static but is changed by people who follow that religion as they see fit.

1:17:23 This remark from the audience was the most convincing argument in this entire video. Hats off to this gentleman. The guest has very limited knowledge and due to this he doesn't seem confident on the questions asked. Parvez bhai is very knowledgeable. But he still has biased views on certain things. He clearly lacks understanding about the Hindu culture and difference with Islam, but gives wrong comparisons very confidently.

Hearing the names of Fred Halliday ( heard him speak at Georgetown University back in 1980s), Samuel Huntington and Bernard Lewis, Max Weber brought me back 40 years when I attended GU. and then reference to Iqbal Ahmed! He was a gem of a man and what an intellect.

Itne acche channel ko pakistan m koi dekhta hi nahi...so sad...🙁

I thought Parvez Hudbhoy was an intellectual, and I respected him for that. At 1:20:30, Parvez Hudbhoy says that Hindus have no threat from Muslims. Is he serious? Pakistan finished off all minorities because of their faith, and despite being a Pakistani, he doesn't know it? He should read the constitution of Pakistan. One faith has always been a threat to all other faiths. Parvez Hudbhoy is strongly advised to read the history of Indian subcontinent. He is not worthy of respect.

Thankyou for a very enlightening discussion.Unless religion is replaced by a modern, ethical,empathetic way of life, it will continue to cast its primitive, medieval shadow on human conduct.

The difference between Islamic and other extremisms is that the former is based on lust and self-interest, while the latter are based on safeguarding religion. A TTP suicide bomber commits his act because it guarantees jannat for him, even though he knows that it will damage the reputation of Islam and Muslims. In contrast, a gao rakshak lynches because he considers the cow to be sacred, not because saving the cow will somehow redeem him in the metaphysical life.

Excellent discussion People like you all will save mankind

What I understood is Islam people should appreciate and respect other religions and. Views. They should have idea to co exist with others. My way or no way does not work.

I am here just to comment on the level of intellectuals in Pakistan. By expressing blatant bias against current Indian dispensation, and by saying 'we destroyed temples', Hoodbhoy makes entire conversation farcical. Before discussing the difficult topics of secularism, democracy, human rights, etc. these professors have to educate themselves about their own history and gather courage to accept reality. By falsely drawing equality with India and Indian BJP, they show their superfluous level. For those who might question my standing, I am a Professor myself, teaching and doing high level research in the USA for over 27 years. And I do not claim to be an intellectual!

Healthy conversation,but first time i saw Hoodboy sir talk a bit loosely (humne Raaz kiya n all ) but thats ok. But before calling us Hindu Fascist state,bhai kitna jaantey ho hinduism ko??. Main Practicing Hindu hokar Jesus is great,Allah Hu Akbar , Waheguru da Khalsa and Jai Shri Ram sab khul kar national tv par bol sakta hooon (or believe bhi karta hoon us par) Aap jara 4 logon k beech main yai try kar lena apni country main pata chal jaayega Zinda bachey to ,facts to dekh liya karo mere bhai . Compare nhi kar rha as there is none but clarifying ,Hate us we have no problem with that,but hate us for right reasons not fiction Bhai duniya k liye secularism fashion hoga hamare liye hamare lahu main hai🙏

@54:55 it is obvious what the questioner was alluding to . I think the 2 experts did not realize it . He was asking the 2 experts to acknowledge the ancient wisdom and critical and secular thought of the Hindus .. jeez …

All the religions reformed with time except for Islam. Britishers encouraged reformers of Hindu religion like Raja Rammohan Roy, Swami Dayanand Saraswati and Hinduism reformed. British never even try to bring about reforms in Islam, wonder why?

Most Indians commenting here are here to listen to Pakistani progressives being critical of their society even as back home they support conservative values or even fascist ones! They don't find any problem with the Sangh ecosystem, they ignore how minorities are threated by religio-political leaders with impunity. Denigration of Muslims in India is now normal and commonplace. They selectively forget history like murder of Gandhi, destruction of Babri, Gujarat riots and think the current dispensation is unproblematic! And then they come and listen to Pakistani progressives criticizing Pakistan to derive schadenfreude out of it... There is no doubt India's problem with fundamentalism is no where close to that of Pakistan but it's still at a concerning state and deriving schadenfreude from the fact that Pakistan is in a bigger hole wouldn't solve it.

It's a lie that there's no casteism in Islam. Asrafi are like Brahmin among Indian Islam and Afzals are Dalits of Indian Islam.

The basic cause of stagnation in Islamic countries more particularly in Pakistan is Kalma and Quran. Second part of Kalma clearly states that no reform and reformer after Mohammed. What would happen to that society which is not ready for reform or for co opting new ideas.

This is most rational & sensible discussion about Islamic Fundamentalism with reference to Pakistan's issues & its self invited problems. To compare it to Rise of Hindutva, is ridiculous, Hinduism is not anti progress, it is tolerant & pro change.

Good talk. I really like the way the topics are written on the black-board. Every time the writing is beautiful.

Pakistani intellectuals don't know the dynamics about India but continue commenting on it , Keep going - You will never grow LOL

When the British arrived in India, the Mughal Empire was reducing rapidly. Although it again increased during Aurangzeb, but soon afterwards, the Marathas took over entire Bharat. By early 18th century, there wasn't any Mughal Empire practically, but divided in Nawabis. The Pakistanis are always taught wrong history.

Pakistan is India with Muslim majority . This is issue.

Great talk. Wish Farooq, Pervez and the audience had spent some more time discussing what Farooq said was the main factor: alternative society. The state and socuety has to provide economical and welfare value to the poor people on the ground, so that the main reason fundamentalism finds a lot of traction can be challenged. Ideology and academic debate is great, but there is no chance of reaching out to millions of the poor around Pakistan. The rulers of Pakistan must realize that they have a responsibility to provide opportunities, justice and order...or perish over time.

At 56:55 he makes a brilliant point and asks a question "kya islam hamara hai ?? ispe marne maarne pe lag jaate hai" .

V good subject chosen.

The simple fact that Islamic World was once the pinnacle of Science and Technology in the World, itself negates Pervez Attaboy AKA Pakistani Shashi Kapoor's point that Islam is essentially incompatible with Science and Technology. Certain schools of thought like Wahhabism and Salafism are definitely though, and therein might lie the root of the problem. Some other points to be noted are: - Printing press and other technologies came late to the South in general, whether it's Africa or Middle East or South Asia or South East Asia. At that time, technologies took time to travel. - It has been researched and proven by Historians that the artillery and rockets used by Bijapur Sultanate and Tipu Sultan respectively, were more advanced than any thing the West had at that time.

Indian commentators , you can help , debate or advise when ppl they have knowledge no aganist beliefs or faith , Pakistan’s believe Hindus shouldn’t exist if they exist they should exist subservient to Muslims you can see these example in pak , erstwhile east pak, etc

One extra like for Hoodbhoy.. and his straight talk.. Not single invention is credited to islaam...

Where are comments from people of Pakistan?

Your local base is Taxila, secular economic, political, Aurvedic medicine, Charvac tradition, mathematics etc unfortunately you were Hindus at that time Mr Farooq, Mr Hoodboy and others

These are the intellects of Pakistan, but even they are not able to call the spade a spade. Islam and Quran are the main reasons of fundamentalism in Pakistan. Professor Hoodbhoy is forgetting to mention the hatred fed to the kids through their school curriculum.

Who is fuelling fundamentalism? Great question.

Feel Pity about their Modi and Hindutva Obsession. Wish your books in SCHOOLS had taught you some Religious tolerance and secularism, No lesson learnt in 75 years.!!

01 30 best comments by this young man who is calling spade a spade.

Fundamentalism definition 'a form of a religion, especially Islam or Protestant Christianity, that upholds belief in the strict, literal interpretation of scripture'. Salafism or Wahhabism in the west is considered fundamental Islam. Some commentators have suggested that Salafism came about as a reaction to decline of Islam during colonial period in Middle East and rise of Zionism. However, the petrodollar has had an impact on poor nations such as Pakistan, Afghanistan and Syria due to strategic location. It is worth pointing out that AQ and Taliban came out of AF following USSR invasion and IS came out of Iraq following USA invasion.

Religious fundamentalism is the approach of those religious groups that look for the literal interpretation of original religious texts or books believing that teachings obtained from this kind of reading must be used in all social, economic, and political aspects.

Strong roots of democracy can cop up fundamentalism and prevail secularism.

Pakistani can't stop doing propaganda against BJP & India

The word ‘hindutva’ was thrown around very generously with reference to BJP . I think these experts need to go back and read Savarkars version .. it has nothing to do with Hinduism the religion !!

Indian present ruling party is majoritarian but under constitution, secularism, rule of law strong judiciary, diversity, pularity , wide education etc. with multi party secular parties.

Hinduism wasn’t fundamentalistic to begin with. The reason why all of you Muslims from the sub continent are able to convert into your current religion. Ha, it did become fundamental in the last few decades thanks to some who were threatened by the fundamentalism of Islam. You guys should be honest with yourself if you are going to sit and talk about it to analyze where you went wrong.

I don't any one in Pak can know what fascism means, they should question their own Islamic teaching. Inddia.