Rosenbaum Trial Day 12 Witnesses Loretta Shaw, Lauren Banks, Det Donell Nawara, Donna Wieczorek &

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5 жыл бұрын

Rosenbaum Trial Day 12 Witnesses Loretta Shaw, Lauren Banks, Det Donell Nawara, Donna Wieczorek & Dr Kris Sperry

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@charleneg.4053
@charleneg.4053 5 жыл бұрын
Wow, what a powerful statement made by such a young child who's been through so much. "There are bad and good people in this world and I can't tell the difference" - Millie
@JojoplusBo
@JojoplusBo 4 жыл бұрын
@Charlene G... very powerful indeed... that statement from this broken child Millie just pierced my heart. This is a statement a parent should be speaking to a child about in reference to “stranger danger” warning. I pray that Millie has found happiness, peace of mind, body and spirit with the help she needs to heal from such a horrible start in life. Blessings Millie. 2020
@alidadebruyn3560
@alidadebruyn3560 2 жыл бұрын
Compared to all witnesses brought by the defence, Millie was proven to be the most intelligent one ❤️
@marshapieroni6677
@marshapieroni6677 Жыл бұрын
It should be on a tee shirt with proceeds going to the new mother to Millie and her sisters .
@tygressmomma
@tygressmomma 5 жыл бұрын
Isn't it true that Jennifer and Joseph are on trial for murder not Millie Place.. How does Mull sleep at night?? The fact that she's blaming the victim is disgusting. Millie didn't kill LAILA Jennifer did.
@Investigativebean
@Investigativebean 5 жыл бұрын
Patti Coppedge seriously. Most defense attorneys play dirty, and have to do tough things. Corrine Mull is just downright repulsive. She sounds like Aunt Lydia from Handmaiden Tale, but Aunt Lydia actually loves children to some extent. Corrine is not just despicable. She treats every witness like hot garbage, even her own. She is terrible at her job too from what I can see. I hope the Rosenbaums paid out the wazoo for her defense too 😆
@ibelf2465
@ibelf2465 4 жыл бұрын
This is the best comment yet!!! Shame on The Mole
@nocturnaldaisy6181
@nocturnaldaisy6181 5 жыл бұрын
TWELVE DAYS LATER.... Dr. Sparry is still giving a day by day account of his education starting from kindergarten thru grad school.
@taraparker4313
@taraparker4313 4 жыл бұрын
This made me laugh!!!
@glyndamcdonald5608
@glyndamcdonald5608 4 жыл бұрын
He must shave with a fork! Some old men can do the dumbest things. Does he think that looks nice? Barf!
@patriotbella
@patriotbella 4 жыл бұрын
Watching again..... it’s so much better the second time especially when you know the result and have heard Ms Young’s amazing rebuttal to the defense witnesses.
@FM19MONTH
@FM19MONTH 4 жыл бұрын
@@patriotbella hmmm. Interesting ...I actually had Robert Durst's interrogation on last night I started remembering it.. but was still good again.
@patriotbella
@patriotbella 4 жыл бұрын
F M good reminder .... looking for stuff I haven’t seen recently.
@ToninTexas
@ToninTexas 5 жыл бұрын
I'm expecting the tooth fairy, Santa claus and the Easter bunny to take the stand..
@tygressmomma
@tygressmomma 5 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂
@vanessajones9524
@vanessajones9524 5 жыл бұрын
Same
@nocturnaldaisy6181
@nocturnaldaisy6181 5 жыл бұрын
A spirt, a white walker, and a zombie as well.
@ruthhaught4296
@ruthhaught4296 4 жыл бұрын
Toni Waid and a bucket of chicken from the original cernal himself
@Uniquely-E
@Uniquely-E 3 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@jennifers.3818
@jennifers.3818 5 жыл бұрын
oh when the counselor repeated what Millie stated about being scared bc there are bad and good people in the world and she cant tell the difference, broke my heart a little 7yr old girl has to realize that already. Not only realize it but feel it to the core of her being. so so sad. it just makes u want to wrap that little baby up in all the love you can muster
@bulldogmomx2901
@bulldogmomx2901 4 жыл бұрын
Yes! This broke my heart! 💔💔
@JojoplusBo
@JojoplusBo 4 жыл бұрын
... all a seven year old should know is happiness and comfort in a loving family and home.... puppy dogs and rain bows. I’m sure I come close to feeling “hate” towards the Jennifer’s and Joseph’s of the world!!
@PansyF
@PansyF 3 жыл бұрын
Me too. I almost cried.
@Investigativebean
@Investigativebean 5 жыл бұрын
“I met Jennifer at a wedding...may 2015”😆No one truly knows this couple.
@karensimonds3213
@karensimonds3213 5 жыл бұрын
Why would one have to know the couple while both the foster mother and Mrs. Shaw were attending a bridal shower?
@bulldogmomx2901
@bulldogmomx2901 4 жыл бұрын
Shame on the defense for bringing in Ms. Shaw. 3 minutes of testimony from an elderly woman. Ridiculous!!
@glyndamcdonald5608
@glyndamcdonald5608 4 жыл бұрын
I thought this trial was to determine who killed Laila. But it seems that the Defense wants to have 50 people talk about Millie's state of mind 2-3 years later. I am sooo sick and tired of this Defense attorney. No way am I going to listen to her closing argument. Jennifer is guilty and the day the ME testified, the trial was over. The rest has been a total waste of time. I don't think any attorney has ever been more aggravating and tiresome than this one!
@FM19MONTH
@FM19MONTH 4 жыл бұрын
Just when I had almost finished youtube I found trials.
@xanlysphynx8839
@xanlysphynx8839 4 жыл бұрын
Ikr a complete hidden gem
@marythornsberry6486
@marythornsberry6486 5 жыл бұрын
Wish they would fix those mic's........you either can hear the questions and not the answers or vice versa!!!!ugh.......
@maureens100
@maureens100 5 жыл бұрын
Blaming Milly...disgusting...she lied because that was her protective covering...with all she has endured at age EIGHT.....lying was her shield....
@nlcrme
@nlcrme 5 жыл бұрын
Amen Maureen. Poor Millie was just trying to create a fantasy world that was happy and without abuse. I pray that her new forever mom Amanda is the most amazing mom wee Millie could ever hope to have. Has anyone seen this new forever mom Amanda? I can't remember if she has testified or not.
@TheRecoveringLiberal74
@TheRecoveringLiberal74 5 жыл бұрын
@@nlcrme Yes, she testified already.
@lanayoung8632
@lanayoung8632 3 жыл бұрын
@@nlcrme yes and she was amazing and protected millie with every word she spoke :)
@mistyhertel9333
@mistyhertel9333 5 жыл бұрын
Pretty convenient that the sister is testifying now about them falling off a ladder. Why hasn't this been brought up before? If I were a juror on this case, I would wonder why the hell J&J had a ladder up knowing the children would be playing around it. That's negligence on their part. This testimony fails to create doubt for me.
@AbbyLauren
@AbbyLauren 5 жыл бұрын
Exactly. She was well enough one day prior to Laila’s death to celebrate her sister’s birthday but the next night she’s lying in bed experiencing postpartum. What a nightmare she is.
@power2theppl896
@power2theppl896 5 жыл бұрын
Earlier in the trial there was someone who said that Jennifer told a couple people that either one or both of the girls were injured by "falling down a stack of ladders" which made absolutely no sense to me and I'm assuming the sisters story is the incident they were talking about but all I heard from her was A ladder not s stack of them unless I heard her wrong. Regardless....the sister was not convincing. She seemed a little off to me in general but it was obvious she was trying to cover for evil Jennifer
@nocturnaldaisy6181
@nocturnaldaisy6181 5 жыл бұрын
The ladder has been brought up many times. This is just where the link to the ladder is revealed.
@jewellerylove
@jewellerylove 4 жыл бұрын
Darla Nowak I’m pretty sure the ladder referred to before was a wooden one attached to the wall in a corner at G-Tech gym where Millie did gymnastics. One of Jennifer’s version of how Leila broke her leg was that she 1.Fell off a beam, 2.Fell off a bar, and 3.Fell off a ladder, all at the gymnastics gym. This is the first time a ladder in the back garden has been spoken about. It seems really shady to me that all of a sudden, right at the last minute, and just in the nick of time, Jennifer’s long lost sister testifies that the girls had an accident the day before Leila died!🤔🤨
@candacecooley9854
@candacecooley9854 3 жыл бұрын
I’m trying to figure out why a ladder would be propped up against a tree for several years 🤦🏻‍♀️ the next thing- why would the ladder continue to stay up if the children were hurt on it? Isn’t the yard a child’s place to play? 3 that ladder did not look whether worn 🤷🏻‍♀️
@vanessajones9524
@vanessajones9524 5 жыл бұрын
Millie had a f...ing LIVING NIGHTMARE does that clear the " lies" up?
@shadowsagainstthewind7813
@shadowsagainstthewind7813 5 жыл бұрын
Heart breaking...knowing the history of these precious children , I wonder how many people they called Mama and Daddy???
@nlcrme
@nlcrme 5 жыл бұрын
Great question...they were so starved for love and affection I believe they would call anyone that gave them the slightest attention mama and papa. I have tears in my eyes now just reading what you wrote...truly heartbreaking.
@nevakendrick1164
@nevakendrick1164 5 жыл бұрын
All of them!
@kathismith7441
@kathismith7441 5 жыл бұрын
Dr???? Nice try. Defense once again trying to pull a fast one.
@ashleyfayne1638
@ashleyfayne1638 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah like the "all of a sudden dr." Trying to disagree with the original autopsy about her fractured arm. Thank God the judge didn't allow that to happen because the defense keeps trying to be sneaky.
@_lizard_laura_
@_lizard_laura_ 5 жыл бұрын
They made that old woman hobble to the courthouse for that?
@donnacox8541
@donnacox8541 5 жыл бұрын
Just like all the others, the mailman, the walmart pharmacist.
@tresann3
@tresann3 5 жыл бұрын
exactly my thoughts....pretty desperate
@nlcrme
@nlcrme 5 жыл бұрын
This is what happens when you have no strategy. You need to line up as many folks as you can to come to the stand and say how wonderful Jennifer and Joseph were with the girls and focus on getting them to say they were active, loving and normal. The defense here is called "Power in Numbers" Defense. The more people you get saying that they more it will be planted on the jurors mind that all was normal therefore through repetition they will have that in their mind when confronted with anything else they hear. It's actually a real type of legal strategy but I am not sure what the statistics are on how it works if at all. I keep waiting for the defense to come out saying, "If it does not fit, you just acquit"!!! Wait for it peeps....its coming....
@nevakendrick1164
@nevakendrick1164 5 жыл бұрын
@@nlcrme That's about how much time each one ever spent with those kids/Rosenbaums!
@power2theppl896
@power2theppl896 5 жыл бұрын
My thoughts exactly!!! This woman spent maybe a couple hours with Leila. It probably took that poor woman longer than that to get in and out of the courthouse! I think Leila sat with her the whole time at the shower because she probably felt like this was a nice, comforting woman and she was probably starved for that kind of positive attention
@kathismith7441
@kathismith7441 5 жыл бұрын
Significantly reduce her lying. This defense attorney is such a creep. Blaming the victim. Shame on her.
@vanessajones9524
@vanessajones9524 5 жыл бұрын
I could not do that job for all the money in the world.
@FM19MONTH
@FM19MONTH 4 жыл бұрын
Me neither. But, someone has to do it. While I am SMH at defense questions, whining, and bantering.. it takes some experience and skills and probably many long nights prepping for a trial like this. I am trying not to dislike the def attorney as a 'person' and see her skill and education BUT I am disgusted w what a defense has and will do to represent the defendant/s.
@bulldogmomx2901
@bulldogmomx2901 4 жыл бұрын
The 2 “lies” she told at school. Wow! This is ridiculous!! Shame on you Mull!
@markaburns4436
@markaburns4436 3 жыл бұрын
@@bulldogmomx2901 you would think that she'd be smart enough to realize that blaming the 4 yo (at the time) victim and trying to discredit her would not go over well w/ the jury!
@deefromcali5181
@deefromcali5181 5 жыл бұрын
If Millie had nightmares, she experienced abuse, probability of mental abuse, and most definitely physical abuse. So as far as trauma of nightmares behind her sister's death is likely so. So, surely would have an affect on any child.
@nlcrme
@nlcrme 5 жыл бұрын
Delois Lee I completely agree with your statement. When I heard Millie's current counselor speak I believe for the first time we are getting some real insight into Millie's experiences, hardships and abuse from not only Jennifer and Joseph but her birth family as well. I am beginning to think had she and Laila been left at Patricia Lambert's home with Patricia's daughter who was her closest friend that these two girls would have had a chance to know true love, affection and caring. Here's my issue...the finger pointing towards Jennifer and Joseph alone is simply not enough. There needs to be more arrests starting with the person or persons who skirted around the proper procedures in approving Foster Parents, Fit of Kin Fostering, etc. not to mention the social worker Samantha White (I believe I have her name right). I want full accountability for everyone that played a part in this....my guess is that the others will get a free pass and that is just unacceptable to me.
@jennifers.3818
@jennifers.3818 5 жыл бұрын
absolutely agree. But I can also say a child or anyone having nightmares doesn't necessarily mean they've been abused or experienced trauma. do not take that ti mean I think Millie didn't experience any of that, I 100% do believe she went thru horrific abuse and trauma. Just pointing out that nightmares don't always mean abuse/trauma
@jennifers.3818
@jennifers.3818 5 жыл бұрын
@@nlcrme DCFS and Samantha White are being sued civilly. White also lost her job. of course thats not criminal charges, but she is experiencing repercussions. Id like to see the asst. DA who wrote the letter be reprimanded also
@nocturnaldaisy6181
@nocturnaldaisy6181 5 жыл бұрын
Nancy Couch There is a lawsuit against DFCS, Samatha White, and her supervisor at the time ( can’t remember her name)
@jennifers.3818
@jennifers.3818 5 жыл бұрын
they couldn't get a dr who is still working and is up to date on their education and work?? This guy is no where as good as the first Medical Examiner. cant remember her name but shes on top of her game
@jodiosborne5056
@jodiosborne5056 5 жыл бұрын
Jennifer S. She’s Dr Darisaw. She’s amazing!!
@debiepritchard1820
@debiepritchard1820 4 жыл бұрын
“There’s good people, there’s bad people and I can’t tell the difference”. HEARTBREAKING ! I’m sitting here crying, if I were on the jury, I would have needed a break after that one !
@jennifers.3818
@jennifers.3818 5 жыл бұрын
I sure hope Prosecution points out that this guy is PAID by the defense!!
@Virg-jr4rk
@Virg-jr4rk 10 ай бұрын
Well if he keeps chugging back fluids after every response he’s going to puff and piddle his way out
@legendary1237
@legendary1237 5 жыл бұрын
I believe that she took her abuse too far and killed little Leigha and once she realized what she had done she did everything she could to try and bring her back because she KNEW that this child died by her own hands and she was going to be charged with murder because they were going to see the extensive abuse that took place on that little baby once she was out of her hands and in the hands of the hospital and the experts...like the Dr. said "Wow!" so sad for the baby and her sister.
@marshapieroni6677
@marshapieroni6677 Жыл бұрын
I believe that also
@nevakendrick1164
@nevakendrick1164 5 жыл бұрын
The were just regular little happy abused kids! Duh! So many clueless adults!
@nlcrme
@nlcrme 5 жыл бұрын
Spot on!!! That's exactly what I was thinking.
@Investigativebean
@Investigativebean 5 жыл бұрын
It’s pretty startling how completely oblivious, and easily manipulated people can be.
@jaynine4133
@jaynine4133 4 жыл бұрын
Abused? Yes, but they looked well fed...lol
@PechilvrsPreciousPeepsNursery
@PechilvrsPreciousPeepsNursery 5 жыл бұрын
I can tell you from watching 100s of cases..... What happened here. This angel baby Laila sustained numerous injuries over time.....and she was already in "active death" when the monstrous foster mother struck 1 blow too many or even the child was just sitting in the seat already beginning to seize as the expert described. Rosenbaum like an idiot may have just thought she was choking...and went into panic or frenzy and called 911. Not realizing the baby would die and the autopsy would reveal the TRUTHFUL & NUMEROUS INJURIES OVER 4 MONTHS. SHE'S EVIL & I HOPE SHE GETS DEATH OR LIFE THE MAXIMUM SENTENCE.... make sure to write her roommates in the future!!
@nevakendrick1164
@nevakendrick1164 5 жыл бұрын
Jennifer called 911 when she realized Laila was dead & she couldn't revive her.
@marthadebolt1264
@marthadebolt1264 5 жыл бұрын
Both of these so called foster parents will get there just deserts in prison. I pray they are are afraid every day and night while rotting in prison. Disgusting vile monsters
@JupiterMoon19
@JupiterMoon19 5 жыл бұрын
Apparently from all the witnesses, the girls always wore sundresses. 🤷‍♀️
@xanlysphynx8839
@xanlysphynx8839 4 жыл бұрын
Johansson Johansson that's the lie they agreed on to cause assumption that if they had bruises it would be visable
@cateellington4081
@cateellington4081 5 жыл бұрын
Is Ms Defense Lawyer really trying to imply that Laila’s bisected Pancreas could’ve happened through playing on a ladder? Wow
@marshapieroni6677
@marshapieroni6677 Жыл бұрын
Oh I think that was blamed on inadequate heimlich maneuver. I suppose a fall off a ladder in July was suppose to turn her back and neck blue and stay that way for 2 months
@ibelf2465
@ibelf2465 4 жыл бұрын
The defense is growing weaker & weaker! How many times does she want to talk about a little girl “lying”! She needs to pack her papers & go feed her cats!
@madhatter5847
@madhatter5847 4 жыл бұрын
Everyone who laid eyes on these babies failed them !!!!
@sandhyamandara4
@sandhyamandara4 5 жыл бұрын
Dr. Sperry appears to be suffering from Verbal Diarrhea 🤮 stop talking sir!! 🥴
@robinmantell3766
@robinmantell3766 5 жыл бұрын
Trauma in a young child’s life causes them to dream up stories to cope. This should be confidential info for the judge. This should be about Jennifer & the medical report of the deceased child. Her and her husband get a guilty from the jury. They both go to prison! I cannot remember how many years.
@ciarawall9597
@ciarawall9597 3 жыл бұрын
Her biological sister, I wouldn't be admitting that in public 😳😳😆
@chelleglenney156
@chelleglenney156 3 жыл бұрын
She looks like an 70 year old woman... And married? With kids? Yikes. I wonder who he turned down then...
@reallymariah894
@reallymariah894 4 жыл бұрын
I think Ms Mull is assuming the prosecution won’t ask her witnesses the tough questions.
@HockeyMastered
@HockeyMastered Жыл бұрын
Okay so now we're hearing about a whole different ladder than they've talked about throughout the entire trial. Man these guys need to find a story and stick to it
@ToninTexas
@ToninTexas 5 жыл бұрын
To drag poor miss Shaw into this is absolutely shameful
@marshapieroni6677
@marshapieroni6677 Жыл бұрын
Yes and look how long she kept poor Millie up there. I believe it was over an hour
@JupiterMoon19
@JupiterMoon19 5 жыл бұрын
So hard to hear that attorney
@zazzyman
@zazzyman 5 жыл бұрын
How many caseworkers and therapists are there?
@nevakendrick1164
@nevakendrick1164 5 жыл бұрын
At least a kazillion!
@ciarawall9597
@ciarawall9597 3 жыл бұрын
That comment by millie is pretty heartbreaking, "there are good and bad people in this world and I can't tell the difference" 😢 so sad those poor girls
@vanessajones9524
@vanessajones9524 5 жыл бұрын
Lying? Oh dear, how awful!! 😔 poor little girls
@kathismith7441
@kathismith7441 5 жыл бұрын
What’s the point of this questioning regarding Millie?
@power2theppl896
@power2theppl896 5 жыл бұрын
It seems like the real focus of the defense case is to prove that Millie was this compulsive liar but I don't think it is working. Even if Millie was a liar, her bruises and other injuries are definitely not lying
@nevakendrick1164
@nevakendrick1164 5 жыл бұрын
Millie gave a tremendous intelligent testimony against Jennifer that can put the Rosenbaums away for life w/o parole.
@BelindaS
@BelindaS 2 жыл бұрын
She is determined to prove the kid is a liar. Then what? There were two adults and a dead child. Suprised the poor postman hasn't been dragged in and accused. Note: Just seen another video, the poor postman was called in...
@blisswindlow
@blisswindlow 5 жыл бұрын
why would any parent of children that small leave a ladder like that up against a tree? AND her sister said it was there and her children climbed on it as well? If you are a foster parent you take classes AND you have inspections and they are all over "potential accidents" like ... I don't know, a complete random big ladder up against a tree?
@maryb6672
@maryb6672 5 жыл бұрын
Aria E Appleford She didn’t take ANY classes bc she wasn’t really a foster home. She pulled some strings & got categorized as a kinship placement-which is a family member or friend & doesn’t receive monthly support checks from the state for the kids placed in the home. A kinship placement has much less requirements to meet. (Course she shouldn’t have one at all but that’s a different matter)
@blisswindlow
@blisswindlow 5 жыл бұрын
@@maryb6672 Aha ... well let's hope the agency doesn't let something like that ever happen again.
@maryb6672
@maryb6672 5 жыл бұрын
Aria E Appleford well definitely not if someone isn’t a “kinship” home. Kinship placements are great for kids on a temp basis bc it allows kids to remain w/someone they are familiar with & hence are therefore less traumatic, But they definitely shouldn’t be used, as in this case, to get a family approved for kids bc they didn’t qualify as regular foster parents! That’s a complete misuse of the system.
@nevakendrick1164
@nevakendrick1164 5 жыл бұрын
Children raising children! Happens everyday.
@Koco76
@Koco76 Жыл бұрын
The defense coached Jennifer's sister in every single thing she's been trying to prove. Nobody else could say what the defense wanted to hear so in comes the sister who can vouch for everything. That lawyer deserves jail with the Rosenbaum for being so evil
@kathismith7441
@kathismith7441 5 жыл бұрын
Defense opened the door.
@foreverblessed879
@foreverblessed879 2 жыл бұрын
I think Jennifer had it out for Tessie because from what I’ve heard Laila’s dad was the one that Jennifer liked and Tessa dated him instead and then got pregnant with his baby. I think it was a revenge kill if Laila to get back at Tessie. I think Jennifer really thought she would get away with it because she was so well known and educated. I could be completely off but she did it to get back at Tessie somehow.
@maryjenny9547
@maryjenny9547 2 жыл бұрын
I agree with you! I think it most definitely had something to do with Tessa and Laila’s dad.
@alan_navarro_0621
@alan_navarro_0621 Жыл бұрын
Wasn’t Jennifer already married by then?
@lillycasey2657
@lillycasey2657 2 жыл бұрын
This trial has actually broken me blaming the victim millie was beaten day in day out watching her baby sister die by the hands of jessica the monster she lied to protect her self bless her how dare they 😡
@HockeyMastered
@HockeyMastered Жыл бұрын
So weird that she keeps telling the witnesses to spell their name for the jury. No honey. Not for the jury. For the court record. What kind of lawyer is this quack? 🤦🏼‍♀️🤦🏼‍♀️ I wouldn't hire her to represent me if somebody hit my car that was parked
@roniveeflorida727
@roniveeflorida727 5 жыл бұрын
Those defense witnesses seem so rehearsed..
@nevakendrick1164
@nevakendrick1164 5 жыл бұрын
There's nothing to rehearse!
@power2theppl896
@power2theppl896 5 жыл бұрын
And poorly at that. The majority of the time I think the prosecution used them to their benefit much more than the defense and they were defense witnesses!
@roniveeflorida727
@roniveeflorida727 5 жыл бұрын
@@power2theppl896 I agree.. they did end up helping the prosecutors..
@zazzyman
@zazzyman 5 жыл бұрын
Will this doctor tell us he saw the chicken? Was it original recipe or extra crispy?
@nevakendrick1164
@nevakendrick1164 5 жыл бұрын
You are too much!
@ajax2543
@ajax2543 5 жыл бұрын
Well he does look like Colonel Sanders so...
@HarleyYaya20
@HarleyYaya20 5 жыл бұрын
Colonel Sander's! Hahahaha Is he out of breathe from too much chicken?! Lordy 🤦 🙄 He sure did give his entire life history lol 😂
@cattycorner8
@cattycorner8 3 жыл бұрын
oh, I love the way Miss Shaw talks, it's just like all the ladies I grew up with.
@squigglebot6809
@squigglebot6809 5 жыл бұрын
Ok, call me old school and out of date if you wish, but when I was young it was my parents that taught me about lying and not lying, along with my school when I was of school going age. Nowadays parents seem to run straight to therapists and simply bypass the parenting stage. What gives!? The things that Millie seemed to lie about all seem pretty run of the mill to me...!?! And I'm a mother myself now, of my beautiful 13 year old son - I've never taken him to a therapist and he seems just fine to me!!
@Investigativebean
@Investigativebean 5 жыл бұрын
The therapy seems to have been recommended at some point, and then even mandated due to her past traumas. It seems to me that the fibbing may have been out of character, or sudden for Millie in particular. If she is already being seen it makes sense that behavior would be discussed.
@karensimonds3213
@karensimonds3213 5 жыл бұрын
Squiggle Bot Appreciate your candid observation. No need to apologize for that in my world. I think it’s the demeanor of the child that’s concerning. If a child lies about brushing teeth or not taking a directive from a teacher so what. However if a child is found answering questions falsely with an element of contempt towards the adult asking the question I think that’s unnatural.
@ingloriousbetch4302
@ingloriousbetch4302 2 жыл бұрын
Pretty sure your son didn't have his sister murdered, wasn't tortured, passed thru numerous foster foster homes so its understandable that he wouldn't need counseling for "lying".
@zazzyman
@zazzyman 5 жыл бұрын
I was once attacked by a bear named Jennifer...
@nlcrme
@nlcrme 5 жыл бұрын
I know you are making a joke here but I think you actually may be onto something. Perhaps Millie could not bring herself to say that it was Jennifer that hurt her because after all Jennifer did do nice things for her and it confused her. So she created a bear...something big and scary that she could easily say attacked her without her feeling guilty for saying it. I hope Amanda, Millie's new forever mom, is the most wonderful mommy anyone could ever hope to have in this world. Millie deserves nothing but the best.
@nevakendrick1164
@nevakendrick1164 5 жыл бұрын
Exactly!
@ninachkah13
@ninachkah13 3 жыл бұрын
The ladder story is BULL!!! the sister's voice got all shaky once she started on about that
@maryjenny9547
@maryjenny9547 2 жыл бұрын
Why would you leave a ladder like that in your backyard and let little kids play on it? 🙄
@FM19MONTH
@FM19MONTH 4 жыл бұрын
Ok now I know what comments meant about Dr Kris Sporry.. on one hand awesome he is such an accomplished professional in his life . A lot of selfless dedication. Then we have those that can't maintain a part time job. BUT on the other hand .. Doc is lacking humility and is very pompous. I am so glad I have never had to work with him. But sounds like he has done good stuff for people who have experienced horrific losses
@chetyoubetya8565
@chetyoubetya8565 Жыл бұрын
She had a baby shower and the person giving it was late?? Why would any of this be brought up?? She sounds as insane as Jennifer. Lalia ran to the older woman because she felt like it was a grandmother figure so she felt safe.
@Celestialstars0109
@Celestialstars0109 4 жыл бұрын
Umm...sister is a liar! Millie was looking back to see how high her sister was off the ground. Yeah okay..
@madhatter5847
@madhatter5847 4 жыл бұрын
Omgosh the ladder did not kill Laila !! Let it go Mull
@kathismith7441
@kathismith7441 5 жыл бұрын
The other witness even said she saw a bruise on her arm before she fell. Boy. How stupid is this.
@julielaidlaw2412
@julielaidlaw2412 5 жыл бұрын
I watched this live on 11 alive and this quack fell of his chair
@nevakendrick1164
@nevakendrick1164 5 жыл бұрын
He's from Kansas! He's the Wizard of Oz!
@jennifers.3818
@jennifers.3818 5 жыл бұрын
I cant believe the judge allowed these pics. did u hear the arguement between prosecution and defense about these?? that Defense has had the slides almost 2yrs and hasnt disclosed to prosecution they were going to use them until a day ago. which is an issue. defense is playing dirty.
@budgirl1368
@budgirl1368 5 жыл бұрын
I missed him falling off his chair! Dammit 😂
@Investigativebean
@Investigativebean 5 жыл бұрын
Jennifer S. I believe that is spoliation of Evidence, and that it is actually criminal.
@julielaidlaw2412
@julielaidlaw2412 5 жыл бұрын
Bud Girl You can see it on KZfaq do a search his name and fall lol
@dianahammond2631
@dianahammond2631 5 жыл бұрын
Somebody’s pissed with importance.
@jaynine4133
@jaynine4133 4 жыл бұрын
This esteemed Dr got a very nice retirement letter from Mr. Important.
@Beaukaydee
@Beaukaydee 5 жыл бұрын
That poor chair is going to break.....
@timedrain2870
@timedrain2870 5 жыл бұрын
This is the first piece of evidence that just provides a modicum of doubt. microscopic and silly but enough for someone who wants a thread to pull can comfort themselves with,
@alliinwonder9675
@alliinwonder9675 2 жыл бұрын
These poor witnesses coming in with crutches, post surgery, difficulty walking and being mobile, and she is parading them in for either a completely false testimony or no testimony or irrelevant testimony.
@lornaduwn
@lornaduwn 4 жыл бұрын
I think I have figured out the whole getting in trouble for sleeping in the car thing. I don't think it was all of the time, but I think that it most likely happened when Jennifer had the kids out late after her meetings. She would sometimes bring the kids to meetings with her and then bring them with her when they went out to eat or out for coffee. That would make it a pretty late night for little ones. Imagine Jennifer getting home with a satchel or files or things she needed for the meeting along with a purse and a diaper bag. She would want the kids to wake up and walk in themselves like they did at the baby shower. But, being that late they were too sleepy to walk in. I remember having to carry my son in many times when we were out late and he was just too tired to wake up. They probably were told not to fall asleep on the way home, but couldn't help it. Jennifer probably would have been pretty angry at them for disobeying her even though they were overtired and had no choice.
@marisalynn9319
@marisalynn9319 4 жыл бұрын
I agree completely and would like to add that for many kids that 20 minute nap in the car can sometimes give them hours of extra energy and make it extremely difficult for them to go back to sleep once they get in the house.
@HockeyMastered
@HockeyMastered Жыл бұрын
I agree with all of that and add in the fact that she wanted them to go to bed early to have free time from them and if they fell asleep in the car then they might not go right to bed. She can blame her own self if they fell asleep in the car. She took on foster kids and she should have been able to take care of them without having to worry about them falling asleep in the car because of all the stuff that she was doing at the time.
@michelleglover9543
@michelleglover9543 5 жыл бұрын
I noticed that when the witnesses are being sworn in that the oath ends in "so help you god". So what happens if an atheist like myself gets called to be a witness? I can't "swear" to any god. I wonder if they just leave that part off? I honestly thought that part of an oath had been dropped a long time ago.
@nevakendrick1164
@nevakendrick1164 5 жыл бұрын
You can just affirm your word for the truth. So, you will not have God to help you ever in this evil world. Or maybe you are one of the evil ones!
@girlfromsouth214
@girlfromsouth214 5 жыл бұрын
An atheist or non Christian can choose only to affirm their word and they do not have to swear on the bible.
@nevakendrick1164
@nevakendrick1164 5 жыл бұрын
@@girlfromsouth214 No one is supposed to swear on God's name.
@nat11911
@nat11911 5 жыл бұрын
The 'God' nonsense has been dropped in quite a lot of the US states now - slowly but surely they're moving into the 21st century!
@jennifers.3818
@jennifers.3818 5 жыл бұрын
youre not "swearing" to a God though. It doesn't say, "I swear to God" or " " I swear on the Lords name"
@JojoplusBo
@JojoplusBo 4 жыл бұрын
This retired Dr who likes to toot his horn is a disgrace to his profession. Is he sound of mine? Lailas injuries, internal and external, in the healing process old and new were that of a battered ... bruised and broken toddler that succumbed to her abusers. What doesn’t he get?! Enjoy your 30 pieces of silver~
@juliekg1
@juliekg1 2 жыл бұрын
Does the doc say what he is being paid by the Defense? I know they asked a State's expert, so fair game I assume...
@juliekg1
@juliekg1 2 жыл бұрын
And no matter how much, he is a disgusting human being for being paid off ($ or attention because he knows he is a useless waste of his former self and needs to feel important!) to defend these monsters and the brutality this baby and her sister endured.
@clc7763
@clc7763 10 ай бұрын
Wow Loretta Shaw should have said" that's all you wanted?"
@HockeyMastered
@HockeyMastered Жыл бұрын
You know, this man used to get so much accreditation until this testimony. People are disgusted with him after this specific testimony he gave. I can't even listen to him. He puts me to sleep. That and because I know that he is full of it with what he is saying
@mistylavorgna1789
@mistylavorgna1789 5 жыл бұрын
1:23:42 on. nope.nope.nope.
@bulldogmomx2901
@bulldogmomx2901 4 жыл бұрын
There must be vodka in that blue bottle.
@sheilahenderson1151
@sheilahenderson1151 3 жыл бұрын
Remember the defense paid for this doctor. I believe he is lying
@donnawoods8039
@donnawoods8039 5 жыл бұрын
I may sound totally ignorant, but why is that woman speaking into that funny looking microphone?
@donnacox8541
@donnacox8541 5 жыл бұрын
She is the court reporter. Instead of typing,she is repeating everything. Nobody can hear her because of its design.
@donnawoods8039
@donnawoods8039 5 жыл бұрын
@@donnacox8541 never saw that before. thanks!
@donnacox8541
@donnacox8541 5 жыл бұрын
@@donnawoods8039 your welcome🖒🌹
@zazzyman
@zazzyman 5 жыл бұрын
Rather then fire court reporters and rely on tapes they have court reporters relay the testimony and rely on those tapes...I guess...
@nevakendrick1164
@nevakendrick1164 5 жыл бұрын
@@zazzyman Court Reporter's records are printed out for court use files.
@alidadebruyn3560
@alidadebruyn3560 2 жыл бұрын
Oh my gosh it is clear as daylight Lorraine Banks Jennifer’s sister is lying under oath. Talking about the ladder and how Millie and Laila fell off the ladder. When questioned about it, she probably couldn’t remember which side the hip injuries were at the time of Laila’s death. Lorraine you are as bad as your abuser sister. To lie not only under oath but at the expense of this little babies, I think DFACS need to keep an eye on you with your kids. The old lady who spoke about Laila sitting on her lap the whole time back and forth with Jennifer’s phone saying “daddy I love you” only to be said by Lorraine Banks that she was on Jennifer’s lap with Jennifer’s phone. Mrs Defence when you bring witnesses to the stand make sure they get their stories right when they lie under oath
@kk3940
@kk3940 2 жыл бұрын
Lauren is her sister. Lorraine is the older woman who testified first.
@stparisian
@stparisian Жыл бұрын
Daaannngggg … now THIS girl (Jennifer Rosenbaum’s sister) IS a liar! Keep calling Millie one! Millie’s untruths we’re a matter of survival.
@beckyleisure
@beckyleisure 3 жыл бұрын
Dr kris sperry = Charlie brown’s teacher wa wwwaaaa wa
@xfreespirit1979x
@xfreespirit1979x 7 ай бұрын
Lauren is clearly lying. She said that ladder was leaning against a tree for four years?!
@ruthhaught4296
@ruthhaught4296 4 жыл бұрын
Sorry Mr. Coroner I personally do not believe you one stinking bit!
@chelleglenney156
@chelleglenney156 Жыл бұрын
10:15 Girl, stop lying. Just stop. ✋️
@amandakayanderson5532
@amandakayanderson5532 3 ай бұрын
Here ms Mull goes again, obsessing over impeaching Ms Banks or Ms Lambert. Cant win the case so lets impeach
@tammyfeller2942
@tammyfeller2942 7 ай бұрын
Who's on trial here??? "Miss Banks" or these child beaters??? JS
@clc7763
@clc7763 10 ай бұрын
The doctor is a quack
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