'Rounders’ LIVE With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, Van Lathan, and Sean Fennessey

'Rounders’ LIVE With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, Van Lathan, and Sean Fennessey | The Rewatchables

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4 ай бұрын

The Ringer’s Bill Simmons is joined by Chris Ryan, Van Lathan, and Sean Fennessey live in New York to rewatch the 1998 drama ‘Rounders,’ starring Matt Damon, Edward Norton, and John Malkovich.
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@UptownBobbi Ай бұрын

1:02:05 Chris Ryan, the legend, does his Tony Romo commentary. Posting this so no one else has to dig for this gold - but watch this entire episode.

@MonarchWarrior 4 ай бұрын

Big fan of Van and the whole podcast series. Much love and appreciation for the humor and insights. 🎉

@UptownBobbi Ай бұрын

Van’s apex mountain is his Creed hottest take, and this is the next day. All legends on this stage

@Royale_withcheeze 4 ай бұрын

Great movie! Ed Norton’s performance steals the show, it’s really a big part of why this movie is rewatchable. His absence is felt the last 20 minutes until Malkovich returns.

@GibranCamus-kr2dc 4 ай бұрын

Malkovich and Damon were the movie for me.

@turneryoung905 4 ай бұрын

One of the most classic rewatchable movies of all time. Malkovovich’s greatest role.

@David-iv6je 4 ай бұрын

Seriously? Malkovich's accent is so bad and floats around so much it's easier to believe it as parody than drama.

@turneryoung905 4 ай бұрын

@@David-iv6je that’s why I love it. It’s hilarious. Him and his Oreo’s bruh.

@domwalker6526 3 ай бұрын

Malkovich's best role is being John malkovich

@aklimar2208 3 ай бұрын

43:35 Best rant ever about that Petra/Mike scene

@UptownBobbi 17 күн бұрын

Totally agree my brother

@robertwiles8106 4 ай бұрын

Rounders is most definitely in the pantheon of all time classic movies.

@schibird 4 ай бұрын

Most badass Matt Damon character…….Donny in Euro Trip. “Scotty doesn’t know.”

@chrisyang05 4 ай бұрын

This film absolutely launched poker, it was ahead of its time. I was just out of college when this movie came out and although I knew poker, I knew nothing about Hold'em. I totally fell in love with the rules of Hold'em and the meticulous details put in this movie. In my mind, it's the best Damon film and the most relatable character he's ever played. How I wish there's a sequel, maybe about how Mike continued to grind in Vegas after 30 years?

@beckyleonardis6331 4 ай бұрын

When Sean said, sounds like Boston! The look on Bill's face! Then, he said sounds like Providence! I laughed so hard! Love these guys!

@germancruz2358 24 күн бұрын

The hustler was huge for pool, and then again The Color of Money, for 9 ball. Everytime i play i think of it

@matthogg2252 4 ай бұрын

They really did Forest Gump twice before even doing Sicario once .

@6thwilbury2331 4 ай бұрын

I think they were going back to favorites for the live tour rather than doing new movies. Kind of lame, but I get it. After all, when you go to a concert and the band plays a new track, everyone uses that as an opportunity to get a second beer or hit the head.

@thearchivist250 4 ай бұрын

Almost crashed my car laughing 46:15. 😅

@UptownBobbi 17 күн бұрын

lol you my man are a hero, I’m glad you survived but that’s also so funny

@adriansal3524 3 ай бұрын

This week, this movie went firm a 9/10 to a 10/10 for me. Love these live rewatchables shows

@UptownBobbi 17 күн бұрын

43:35 Van brings it home as always. The hottest take and the documented biggest regret of the writers. Van we don’t deserve you

@UptownBobbi 17 күн бұрын

For those who don’t have time to watch the whole thing - the writers literally said they regretted that Mike and Petra didn’t fuck.

@user-lb7ef2qi9m 4 ай бұрын

Most underrated movie of all time

@tonybcamara 3 ай бұрын

I've thought about KGB's integritey when he said, "pay that man his money" , and he needs to have some integrity because if now who would want to go to his place and play poker with money. They could go to other places in NYC

@halfboyhalfamazing8044 4 ай бұрын

Loved this movie. Ed Norton was amazing.

@kpcallahan 4 ай бұрын

"So, you're looking for a little grace, Lester, a little charity" - and then Worm mouths off to Grandma, this is a very underrated scene with Rispoli, Damon, and Norton. A miss by you guys...

@domwalker6526 3 ай бұрын

This is without a doubt the best poker movie. Homeboys reference about balling at the equinox and trying out for the Lakers was funny af

@dantenewyork7380 4 ай бұрын

i wish The Ringer staff compiled the clips of all the Wayne Jenkins through Philip Hall scenes so we could get a benchmark

@catherinehirst4799 4 ай бұрын

My favourite part is Fennessey already in tears at 1:02:12 before CR starts the Romo impression 😂

@CSVGT 4 ай бұрын

Poker player Daniel Negreanu analyzed the final hand on his KZfaq a while back. He came to the conclusion that Teddy KGB had either 66, 77, or AA, ultimately saying that AA was probably it.

@6thwilbury2331 4 ай бұрын

I agree with this, and with the point about KGB's "this card couldn't have helped you" comment. AA is the one holding where this remark makes sense because any A-x hand is blocked.

@defenderandoom7833 4 ай бұрын

I love ROUNDERS and all poker scenes from Rounders . I am very surprised that no one mentioned the awesome poker scene from The STING. Paul Newman and Robert Shaw. Yeah it was con poker play but so very very entertaining!!

@AnotherTequilaSeanrise 4 ай бұрын

Get Russillo ready, the Fear episode needs to happen. His research of Boston area correctional facilities an how they formed Wahlberg's character will be iconic. If you're redoing Rounders and somehow chose it for your New York movie (I get Bill loves it as a Gen X gambling addict, and one for us movies are a staple of this pod, but this isn't a top 25 NY movie), you need an adrenaline injection for the pod. I don't see eye to eye with Van often but his take on how sad watching poker is what spot on.

@toddkonrad2407 4 ай бұрын

“It could have all been different, Mr. Walker. You should have allowed nature to take its course. In the end, it will anyway. SO LET ME IN THE FUCKIN’ HOUSE!”

@ashton235 4 ай бұрын

There is a champion race horse in Australia still active. His name... Alligator Blood! ❤

@brently16 4 ай бұрын

Mike played the first hand with kgb great. There's no way he walks away from a full house

@kevin-4209 4 ай бұрын

100% I'd love to sit at a table with Fennessy if he's going to fold the 2nd nuts. Everyone goes broke on that hand. It's called a cooler.

@lukedowns4945 4 ай бұрын

Watched the movie for the first time yesterday and somehow this drops

@draftmagicagain1000 Ай бұрын

DragonBall Z Saiyan and Frieza Saga I’ve probably watched more than anything. That and Rounders, 8 Mile, Lord of the Rings extended Trilogy, Matrix 1, and The Fountain !

@paulborresch6116 4 ай бұрын

I stand for an American History X ReWatchables

@johnnieriot13 4 ай бұрын

Worm says Clyde and Monroe because they won the chip when they would’ve been kids. You say your childhood hero’s not the current team. Like bill would say I was hot like Bird not like Tatum. Like I currently say “melo” when I hit a deep three on the playground not “Brunson”

@patrickthomas8890 4 ай бұрын

Great point.

@user-lb7ef2qi9m 4 ай бұрын

Great point indeed

@BB-xy5nd 4 ай бұрын

Rounders made me a degenerate gambler since ‘98

@MrWrestling2 4 ай бұрын

Very proud that I saw this in the movie theater. About Mike's GF... He is an addict and he is back on the sauce. He has obviously promised it was a thing of the past but it's back. Her character is extremely believable and justified.

@6thwilbury2331 4 ай бұрын

I skip any scene she's in, but I agree that her character is believable. Maybe not likeable, but definitely believable. After all, Jo was with him at the time he blew his roll (which she mentions). And we also know that she's just as pissed off at him for lying to her. That said, if Mike is as good as he is depicted to be, it seems like she should also know he can make his money back as long as he actually practices some bankroll management. He must have made more money toward law school at the tables than he did with an hourly job.

@ajbianchi85 3 ай бұрын

Wanted to go, sold out before I could get tickets

@chrisyang05 4 ай бұрын

27:38 That final scene with KGB has a mistake not many people picked up. Teddy goes: "This SOB, all night, he checked, checked, checked". In poker, check is the same as pass, it doesn't give out much information, if any at all. If I were Teddy, I'd be screaming about how Mike "called, called, called" all night.

@user-lb7ef2qi9m 4 ай бұрын

Oh shuttttup

@gorkmusic 4 ай бұрын

One of the most rewatchable movies of all time? That just seems hilarious to me. It's a fine movie. I've got no problems with it. But it's not even gonna crack the top 30 best popcorn flicks.

@6thwilbury2331 4 ай бұрын

In fairness, "most rewatchable" doesn't mean "best." For my part, Rounders is probably not in my top 50 movies, but it's probably in the top 10 I've seen the most. I think that's what he was getting at, but then you'd think Shawshank is Bill's most rewatchable.

@user-lb7ef2qi9m 4 ай бұрын

U never get bored with watching Rounders again and again

@kevin-4209 4 ай бұрын

All these dopes disrespecting Knish. Outside of Chan, he's the best poker player in the movie. He doesn't do it glamorously but he's making consistent money.

@coop8849 4 ай бұрын

The Hockey strike and the camera shot of the cards boomed poker, and don't know how no 1 explained 2 these idiots ESPECIALLY AFTER almost 30 years the reason Mike is giddy in the showdown with KGB is the odds of him having pocket aces heads up is ASTRONOMICAL

@draftmagicagain1000 Ай бұрын

I came in with the MoneyMaker crowd. That turned our Poker night from dealer choice to Texas Hold’em Only.

@coop8849 Ай бұрын

@draftmagicagain1000 the math adds up between the 2 look it up

@UptownBobbi 17 күн бұрын

Is this THE best rewatchable of all time? That’s my hottest take. Upvote and downvote me please.

@lilpenny1982 4 ай бұрын

Please do Unfaithful again.

@elliotkaufman8341 3 ай бұрын

They missed "You may sheer a sheep many times, but skin him only once." To be fair, it's a quote from Amarillo Slim in a World Full of Fat People.

@ChanceCypherShow 4 ай бұрын

Norton was on the ascension towards all time greatness but he never did the politics well. Oscar nomination for Primal Fear & American History X, the cult favorite in Fight Club. That early career run. He did what is comparable now to what Luka Doncic is doing. Just instantly became one of the greats right off the bat. And did everything but win a ring. His career is still great but he started off as Luka and finished off as Tobias Harris. Not bad, he was a valuable 3rd option on movies like Moonrise Kingdom. But, still a supporting option. He was supposed to be De Niro! Vying for more Oscars. Getting more roles offered. Imagine the talents of Luka. Someone who can do it all, does it with flair but in a humble way. Can play multiple characters, multiple personalities. But is not wanted by teams. And only offered bench roles or starting roles on losing teams.

@alexvoigt9204 4 ай бұрын

“I can’t think of another person that could play Worm other than Ed Norton.” I dunno man, I wouldn’t mind seeing the Nic Cage or Christian Slater version of that character in the 90s, or the Barry Keoghan/Lucas Hedges version of that character today

@Ericb1980 3 ай бұрын

The reason it’s perfect with Norton is because he doesn’t go over the top. There’s a patience to the acting. Cage would just be over the top.

@maxawalker 4 ай бұрын

bill rocking chrome? lol

@jonnyhosking1 3 ай бұрын

1:15:10 you know you're here for wayne jenkins

@llim80 4 ай бұрын

If you just read the transcript of this conversation you would think all of these people were 15 years old.

@MG-yp1zw 3 ай бұрын

MTG shout out!!

@itsyoboyb6314 4 ай бұрын

Can somebody tell me who “Harling Mayo” is? I legit have no idea who that is or if I’m even hearing Bill correctly.

@luis7456 4 ай бұрын

A sleaze ball character from an officer and a gentleman lol

@itsyoboyb6314 4 ай бұрын

@@luis7456 thanks. Completely forgot about that one lol

@99funkyo Ай бұрын

Isn’t it Byron Mayo ?

@TheeJuiceIsLoose 4 ай бұрын

I doubt we will ever get a true Rounders sequel. Unfortunately, a remake on Hulu starring Jack Harlow as Mike and Pete Davidson as Worm is a far more likely reality. Who am I kidding? I would 100% watch that.

@Girth_Brooks01 4 ай бұрын

Peeeeeaaayyyyy that maaaaannnnn his monnneeeeaaay.

@user-lb7ef2qi9m 4 ай бұрын

Verrrreeeeeyyyyy agggreeeeaaaasive

@TRENTBLOVE30 4 ай бұрын

I’m shocked that Simmons didnt play poker before Rounders. Also Chris Ryan not knowing anything about poker and not being able to relate saying he has “no idea”? Huh?

@nichobarton 3 ай бұрын

How do they not understand that Teddy can't touch Mike as it's bad for business

@lilpenny1982 4 ай бұрын

Matt Damon should've let her stay. If you know, you know.

@mattymac1399 2 ай бұрын

Mike didn't go there cos his Worm was Pretrafied.

@joe5333 4 ай бұрын

lol, why were they acting like Damon hadn't just been nominated for 2 oscars and won 1 right before Rounders came out? Everyone knew who he was by that point.

@rigsby1454 4 ай бұрын

The Oscars were only a few months before. This was his first 'film' with Ripley post that where he was the star

@joe5333 4 ай бұрын

No, he was in The Rainmaker (Nov 1997) almost a full year before that, too, and it grossed over twice ($45m) what Rounders did ($22m). Either way, Good Will Hunting (Dec 1997, $138m) put Damon on the map well before Rounders.@@rigsby1454

@CoolHandLuke7 4 ай бұрын

Let’s get back in the studio

@Random-Stranger 4 ай бұрын

F**ck that, dude. Having a live audience for these episodes is fun.

@CoolHandLuke7 4 ай бұрын

@@Random-Stranger Too much playing to the audience, too much audience participation. Don’t mind it for these re-rewatchables, but I miss the studio pods

@roycedot 4 ай бұрын

nah, Wayne Jenkins and Mallory's sex bit kill in front of a live audience

@qwertymanor 4 ай бұрын

I agree

@patrickthomas8890 4 ай бұрын

@@CoolHandLuke7totally agree. The humor doesn’t really translate. The stuff that plays to the audience just isnt that funny, but the crowd laughs bc they’re excited to be there (and probably a little drunk). I normally love Chris, but he comes off a bit of a try-hard in front of a live audience…The Byron Mayo and Wayne Jenkins bits were awkward as hell.

@zjbell700 4 ай бұрын

In Heads up, 2 handed poker the odds of all 4 cards of a particular value being dealt in Texas Hold em are 1/250,000 roughly. Maybe Mike was hoping KGB didn't have aces but as the hand played out there was no way he's ever playing that hand differently given the odds. But it's a movie and reality is never as interesting as fiction.

@6thwilbury2331 4 ай бұрын

Yeah, that hand is a total cooler, especially when it's a button vs. flat call in the BB. The chances KGB has AA is even smaller because he didn't three-bet pre. Can't fault Mike for stacking off there. The only thing Mike did wrong was sitting down with his entire roll as a single buy-in.

@Paul-ew5st 4 ай бұрын

Van isn't wrong about WILD on Ibiza in the 90s that's how Marc Cuban made his money.

@user-lb7ef2qi9m 4 ай бұрын

Van is a douche

@ianrobinson4200 4 ай бұрын

I hardly ever hear anyone talking about this movie, it's wild to hear them talk about it with such high regard. It's fine, but let's be real here not that many people care about this movie or come back and rewatch it

@user-lb7ef2qi9m 4 ай бұрын

Ur dead wrong

@nickforman8251 4 ай бұрын

There’s so many movies why redo

@Chipstacker1 4 ай бұрын

Don't forget Molly's game. Rounders and that are the 2 best poker movies of all time

@kevin-4209 4 ай бұрын

Give me Molly's Game over Rounders any day of the week and twice on Sunday.

@user-lb7ef2qi9m 4 ай бұрын

Molly's game sucks

@TheJay1979 4 ай бұрын

I love rewatchables, but I really hate the live ones.

@ProfessD 4 ай бұрын

Van Lathan rules all

@TRENTBLOVE30 4 ай бұрын

Why have Chris and Van on this when they both claim to know “nothing about poker?” I love Rounders, I love Simmons

@kevin-4209 4 ай бұрын

If all 4 of them think McD played the first hand wrong, then none of them know anything about poker.

@MrBendacorna 4 ай бұрын

Studio pods >>>

@bobbycookson4087 4 ай бұрын

Bros Matt Damon. THE DEPARTED. SCUMMIEST CHARACTER hahaha.

@XXXICKYXXX 4 ай бұрын

Just keep grinding out these live shows huh guys? *Real noble work you’re doin there* .. Face it. Format does not work live. Sound quality sucks. Doesn’t feel natural. Teddy KGB sendin Grama down to see you next time

@mjwbulich 4 ай бұрын

The last four live pods have been subpar at best. This one sucked. They already did Rounders. This is just a rehash of old shit. I could have come up with a long list of New York movies better than Rounders.

@patrickthomas8890 4 ай бұрын

Agree. Live pods in general kind of suck to be honest.

@michaelb3927 4 ай бұрын

Sean’s family shouldn’t come, he won’t even laugh at any dirty jokes or contribute lol

@chrismillien7601 4 ай бұрын

Suicide kings was dope

@betterthanumjf 4 ай бұрын

This movie invented gaslighting

@patrickthomas8890 4 ай бұрын

The 1940s movie Gaslight invented it.

@gsf23 4 ай бұрын

Why does Chris have to always fucking yell.

@patrickthomas8890 4 ай бұрын

Bc it’s a cheap way to get laughs. I’ve noticed a ton of hack stand ups yell through most of their act to cover up weak material. Sadly, it usually works

@Bookworm_Lothario 4 ай бұрын

Is it just me or do they all talk over Van and not give his takes the same level of consideration? And if so, that a racial thing or is he just less close to everyone?

@David-iv6je 4 ай бұрын

Rounders is a solid entertaining movie, but it's never been as good as Simmons thinks it is.

@bobbycookson4087 4 ай бұрын

You're opinion and it's wrong. Lol okay I'm wrong he over rating it for sure.

@josh0253 4 ай бұрын

Yeah same here i enjoy it but they talk about it like its the peak of cinema 😂

@David-iv6je 4 ай бұрын

@@josh0253 Same with Heat. I like it but Pacino's crazed over-acting grates before we get to the halfway point.

@patrickthomas8890 4 ай бұрын

I agree. I just cant get past the cheesiness. Damon and Ed Norton were great in it, but John Malkovich and Gretchen Mol were so horrendous it takes me right out it.

@WheresWaldo05 4 ай бұрын

You are right. It is better than what he thinks.

@paulthibedeau4257 4 ай бұрын

is there a reason Van swears so much? Every fifth word is an F bomb. Good grief.

@eatthepin 3 ай бұрын

He completely ruins the episode

@bobsiyt6548 4 ай бұрын

This is UNBEARABLE to listen to on the podcast - mainly because of Van Lathan. He’s bad enough as it is when it’s a regular Podcast, but a live Podcast - no thanks! He makes everything race related, and dial’s it up with an audience here. If you do a “black movie” fine, but when I just want to listen to what the movie is about, without the “N” word, or everything somehow related to. I’m sorry, but after 20 minutes, I just couldn’t take it… as a “white” listener. A shame bc, it’s a movie I like and wanted to listen to the positive and negative reviews.

@user-lb7ef2qi9m 4 ай бұрын

You must be from Boston

@neemah1401 4 күн бұрын

This is a self-report

@bobsiyt6548 4 ай бұрын

No more Van Lathan on movies. I literally don’t download the podcast if I see his name. He’s so incredibly bad and doesn’t mesh well with the panel. But, he’ll keep getting a seat… because he’s black. There… I said it.