Router Sled Planer For Slab Flattening Comparison Test : MUST Have Woodworking Tools

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This DIY video is showing the comparison/showdown between two different router sleds or slab flattening jigs. This comparison test is between one was made for $20 & the other is a $900 Woodpeckers slab flattening kit I have in my wood shop that are the best for woodworkers. This router sled planer video will show in detail the differences between the two router sleds and the reasoning why both system are extremely important woodworking tools to have if your serious in your woodworking. We also go into detail with a router showdown between a Dewalt 1/4" shank router vs. a Titon 1/2" shank router. Both are extremely valuable to have but one will save you a TON of time in the long run. Bring Your Own Tools (BYOTools #62).
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@briw4647 3 жыл бұрын

try a router sled made from linear rails, commonly usaed in cnc machines. you can make a small or very large sled, or even a double rail system, one on top of the other for multi angle routing for alot cheaper than $900

@The_Joker_ 3 жыл бұрын

I made a rail system that takes my router and belt sander. Saves a lot of work.

@Adam-tl6jo 2 жыл бұрын

Would love to see how it works.

@Js9133A Жыл бұрын

#From 731 Woodworks. Saw a replay of the live stream tonight. I can’t ever seem to watch it live, lol but none the less, it was a great interview. I’ve been trying to figure out a router sled, so I’m glad I’m here; not for the $900 version lol. I’m doing a house remodel myself also and use KZfaq to learn the things I’ve never done before. In fact, I see several vids that I have done also and also several thatI can’t wait to sink my teeth into. Thanks again for appearing w/ Matt & Amy, it was educational and inspirational.

@joegee1699 3 жыл бұрын

Great review! My only issue with companies like Woodpeckers and Festool: is the extra money spent actually worth it for what you receive? I couldn't justify buying this sled, any of their marking/measuring tools, or any tools from Festool because the prices are just absolutely ridiculous considering how a MUCH cheaper alternative can give you the same results, or perhaps nearly as good. If my cuts and measurements are off by 1/1000th of an inch because I opted out of buying something like this, I think I could live with that. No offense to anyone who prefers such tools... I splurge on things, just not something that is 2x, 3x, 10x as expensive as the alternatives 🚀

@davenopeapottimus2590 3 жыл бұрын

They have to charge that much. If we get rid of lawyers and let dumb people cut their own limbs off without blaming the maker of a screw.. then prices would be much nicer. I would love it if product makers allowed us to sign a waiver and get the lawyerless price.

@jonathanphares7898 2 жыл бұрын

@@davenopeapottimus2590 this is nonsense. Using your logic all saws (and anything dangerous) would cost thousands of dollars which is obviously not true. Woodpeckers charges as much as they do because they can, and people with cash to burn will pay the ridiculous prices.

@jimpogue1788 3 жыл бұрын

Very nice! I'm looking to do a similar build with side risers to accommodate thicker logs, up to 8" thick. Oh, & btw, I think the word you were looking for is heighT vs heigTH LoL

@smsteger89 4 жыл бұрын

I got your comment from the other video on the walnut tabletop. I actually did the same thing you did on that fir slab on one of my pieces. You routed a groove into it. I used an electric hand plane. I don't know that this method will be much different. It still leaves a lot of noticeable "planing" marks. It's still not a bad idea though, and I may incorporate my own 20 dollar fix at some point as you showed. My main problem at the moment is I have no true work table, and I have limited space, so a giant expensive contraption isn't really for me. I may just do what you suggested in the walnut tabletop video and find a woodshop and have them plane it. The only concern there is I actually glued my boards up width-wise instead of lengthwise, as I didn't have long enough material for the tabletop I wanted. With any luck, there won't be a ton of tear out... although I may still just hit it with 40-60 grit and do it the slow and painful way, haha.

@BYOTools 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching and the detailed response S. I've been smoothing out and sanding a couple large 9' long slabs and this Bosch sander has been MAGICAL. Its not cheap but cheaper then other solutions. Check it out if you can: amzn.to/3aInT8B Thanks for the support.

@davidelf2958 3 жыл бұрын

Great stuff, super helpful!

@BYOTools 3 жыл бұрын

Great to hear David and thanks so much for watching. Hope you subscribed.

@jpp652 5 ай бұрын

Super review👍👍👍

@TehBananaBread 4 жыл бұрын

1:10 you can clearly see the rig bending down. so the middle of the table is gonna be lower than the outsides.

@BYOTools 4 жыл бұрын

Precisely why there are benefits and disadvantages with both system. I Explain the dip in the video BB. Thanks for watching and hope you enjoyed the video.

@jordanenglund 3 жыл бұрын

That's so when you spill milk, it stays on the table and not your lap. It's not a bug, its a feature :)

@robertcornelius3514 3 жыл бұрын

@@jordanenglund , or when you spill a can of beer. Ha

@justinwnichols03 3 жыл бұрын

I've started building my own router planer. I've gone with ⅛" gauge steel angle after I used 1/16th aluminum and noticed it jig bowing under the weight of my router. (Maybe should have used ⅛ aluminum but it wasn't available) So far in Materials, router and bit I'm still under $300. If it works, I've got a planer 3x the size of what you can buy for the same price. I'll get it finished this weekend and give it a test run, I'll try to post a video. #LeftysWorkshop

@aichpvee 3 жыл бұрын

@@robertcornelius3514 built-in beer bowl is definitely going in my next table!

@davidschwendiman3156 4 жыл бұрын

Super helpful. Thank you!

@BYOTools 4 жыл бұрын

Great to hear David. Thanks for watching and hope you subscribed.

@kellybartok50 2 жыл бұрын

No one really came by and sang Christmas songs because of COVID , it’s nice to be in the spirit of Christmas , so when people do come to sing those songs , I can turn on my router and it’s so loud I now can drown them out that’s how good my router is , but on the level I’m so busy making moulding and rabbit joints that I don’t even answer the door , it’s just the dog the old lady and the cat bit for the most part my dependable router and it’s a good heavy duty one at that , it kills the job with a router bouncer I can carve also , all the best :)

@stephenyandell7240 6 ай бұрын

Thank you for the information

@rayl6599 2 жыл бұрын

I never imagined there would be such fancy commercial solutions. I've been using a much simpler and more compact solution -- I just thread two steel rods (0.375" works for my Dewalt) through the holes in the base plate and tighten the screws onto the rods. And use pretty much anything that is flat for the two side rails (frequently, I just lay down two levels on their sides). Sure it's got a bit more friction (you can apply some glide tape to the side rails if you want to create dedicated side rails) and sure, the steel rods move with the router, but stand a bit to the side and it's fine. The benefit is that 2 rods is around $12 for three foot lengths (enough for up to around 15 inches in width) and even more importantly, much more compact to store.

@kababb Жыл бұрын

Great video!! two things, I think the new model has a better dust collection system. Secondly have you used this system with any x-y stops for cutting flattened areas in parts of the slab?

@margueritewhite3038 2 жыл бұрын

Wish they made a smaller one! I don't need anything that massive but love the stability and durability of it!

@michaellynch1159 3 жыл бұрын

I have an electric hand planner and plan to use your router sled design. I want to plan my slabs lengthwise, with the grain. I cut the slabs with an Alaskan chain saw mill. Which works great with an electric chainsaw..

@BYOTools 3 жыл бұрын

Great to hear Michael and thanks so much for watching. Good luck on your project.

@garysampson5258 2 жыл бұрын

Just don't get "woodpecked" for over $900. A rail kit with bearings is under $200 on Amazon.

@OleSnowShow 3 жыл бұрын

Like the video and I’m subscribing but just wanted to point out that you should spell-check the word shirt in your video description. 👍🏼

@HeliRy 2 жыл бұрын

He doesn’t give a shit. But he does sell them 🤣

@randallcrisp3266 3 жыл бұрын

I loved that Miriam Makeba Pata Pata

@bartfoster1311 3 жыл бұрын

I am going to build a rig similar to your old rig out of an old bed frame and use a larger router with it. I don't think it will flex as much. That woodpeckers one sure looks nice and maybe I can get one after I sell a few projects!

@paulthephysicaltherapist7275 3 жыл бұрын

Exactly what I was thinking...I have an old bed frame in the garage that should work nicely for this!

@patrickgraham2432 3 жыл бұрын

Do you have plans on how you built the $20 router sled and materials list? I have a walnut slab that is 19” wide that is warped and need flattened. I need to make a sled to do this with my router. Any tips you can provide would be awesome.

@airsh003 4 жыл бұрын

Vacay just started, I'm trying this.

@BYOTools 4 жыл бұрын

Great to hear Ahmad. Thanks for watching and hope you enjoyed the video.

@CrustyCurmudgeon 4 жыл бұрын

I'm getting ready to do a similar flattening project on an old workbench I've had for 30 years and would like to resurface. One thing I noticed that I'd recommend changing is the use of the bench cookies under your work-piece. Those are going to compress a little as your router passes overhead, and do so to different degrees depending on where you're routing (close to the edges vs more in the middle). That compression will result in variation of the height, yielding surface irregularity, meaning that more sanding will be needed. More sanding will always result in a less flat surface, since you'll be sanding some areas more than others. Finding a way to fasten the work-piece down to the flattest possible solid surface will of course product the flattest results with the least finishing afterward.

@BYOTools 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks so much for the note on the bench cookies. Never thought about it that way so I'm definitely going to try it out without the bench cookies and see if it makes a difference. Thanks for the heads up and for watching. Hope you enjoyed the video.

@CrustyCurmudgeon 4 жыл бұрын

@@BYOTools Theoretically, with the work piece clamped or fastened so it doesn't move at all, and the router operating at a fixed height with no deflection in any direction, you can achieve a perfectly flat surface. Of course, those sort of perfect tolerances are not possible, but reducing them to a minimum should be the goal. I'm looking forward to reviewing more of your videos - I just sub'd!

@bobshepard4423 2 жыл бұрын

Did you experience significant vibration with either surfacing bits? My first try shook so hard screws in the router baseplate came out.

@carolinadesign199 4 жыл бұрын

Can't wait for my first epoxy project.

@BYOTools 4 жыл бұрын

It’s fun! Trust me haha. Thanks for watching and great meeting you.

@adcromwell 2 жыл бұрын

Whats the difference in deflection in the middle? Im getting .04 dip in the middle fro router alone with my homemade one

@justinwnichols03 3 жыл бұрын

@leonardmartin5145 4 жыл бұрын

Don’t want to sound dumb, but you are what you are right!! I’m having some trouble getting my router to line up with the holes on the router plate, I’m missing something here!!!

@BYOTools 4 жыл бұрын

What type of router do you have Leonard? Sometimes that holes don't line up perfectly, but the Woodpecker router plate does try to accommodate multiple set ups. You may need to drill holes in the aluminum plate though.

@leonardmartin5145 4 жыл бұрын

Ok I got the holes fine!! Now how do you get the slab high enough just use riser boards???

@leonardmartin5145 4 жыл бұрын

Yeah I’m super confused I’ve got my slab shimmed up it’s nice and solid I’ve got my router all the way down it’s a Bosch 1617 router by the way and it’s I’m still 2 inches high I mean what I do just keep shimming it up I don’t so I make a pass and then I have to take all the shims out and the boards wow what a pain I’m not getting us

@inthewoodworksco.9041 3 жыл бұрын

Great video. Do you have to have a pretty flat workbench to lay your work piece on for all of this to work well? Thanks.

@contessa.adella 6 ай бұрын

I made my bench flat…with a 20 bucks router sled…the rails fitted to the sides of the bench.

@richardlug6139 2 жыл бұрын

For your dust and chip collection find a source that sells the brushs for conveyor belts and run it the length on both sides of your router sled.

@larrynolte9611 2 жыл бұрын

Which router do you like best the dewalt vs the Titan

@merrynabb8000 4 жыл бұрын

I saw you in Leah's video see Jane drill. Love her stuff. Thought I would check you out. Great content. I subscribed.

@BYOTools 4 жыл бұрын

Great to hear Merry Nabb. I love her channel as well and it was an honor to be featured on her channel. Greatly appriciate your support and thanks for watching. Welcome to the BYOT Fam!

@robsonf6683 4 жыл бұрын

Damn, that's a beautiful jig.

@BYOTools 3 жыл бұрын

Haha right?! Thank so much for watching Amy and hope you subscribed.

@DanielLopez-sz1lx 3 жыл бұрын

I know and for only 20 bucks!

@covecityboys 4 жыл бұрын

I think that piece would make a real nice end table or small apartment coffee table.

@BYOTools 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the suggesting but i'ts bigger then it looks apparently. Almost 4' wide. Definitely still works as a nice coffee table thats for sure. Thanks for watching.

@David-hm9ic 3 жыл бұрын

It looks like there's some scalloping on the surfaces you're planing. Starting at 7:40 the right side of the router is lifting every time it's pushed to the left. Could the scalloping be avoided by moving the router parallel to the guides rather than perpendicular to them?

@Naregnemyes Жыл бұрын

yeah those surfaces look terrible. They look ready to send through a real planer, unless you want to spend hours sanding.

@alexon2010 3 жыл бұрын

a sliding material is glued ... what material would these be, another thing are those rubber supports to avoid slipping the wood when cutting where it is found ... congratulations on the video

@BYOTools 3 жыл бұрын

Those devices are called bench cookies Alexon and there is a link in the description of the video. Let me know if you can’t find the link. Thanks for watching

@davenopeapottimus2590 3 жыл бұрын

After you called out us watchers, I had guilt so i was gonna bail but I watched the whole thing to see if you mentioned the little dark hued biscuits that held the work mostly still. Seems to me that if those are very precisely matched in thickness, their manufacturer should make them in 1/4" thickness increments for this use.

@davenopeapottimus2590 3 жыл бұрын

Very nice video btw. Thanks for doing it. I'll subscribe when my various searches come up with more of your videos. Otherwise, like others who arent subscribing based on one video, I will be subscribed to as many video makers as my wife has "friends" (1680) and you'll be lost in the soup.

@Kmkingfisher 3 жыл бұрын

Where can i get this router sled planer

@dubhead11 4 жыл бұрын

What did you use to put the wood on? In guessing some sort of rubber feet? Looks like a good idea anyway a lot of people seem to glue their piece down.

@BYOTools 4 жыл бұрын

They are called Bench Cookies amzn.to/2WqBOLQ They are amazing! Thanks for watching.

@bigk4755 3 жыл бұрын

Why do you use the bench cookies vs. using the clamp dogs that Woodpeckers supplies with their sled system? Just curious about that.

@robertcornelius3514 3 жыл бұрын

Do Woodpeckers ever have a special on this item?

@nelsonpainco1368 5 ай бұрын

only problem i see wth most budget sleds is that when the routter is in the middle of the sled it tends to bow down a bit and that will make the board a tiny deep in the middle - and you can actually see this happening on yours at 1:05

@CarolinaGirlCreationZ 4 жыл бұрын

Can you not change the shank out of the dewalt to a 1/2" shank? I hav a Ryobi router that I've never used because I'm more terrified of that tool that any of my other tools. LOL!

@BYOTools 4 жыл бұрын

With routers you can go down in shank size but you can't go up. So no, the Dewalt router I have can use 1/2" shank bits. Good question though and thanks for watching as always Heather. Don't be afraid, just be careful :)

@matthewjason5330 3 жыл бұрын

How do you keep it even? I built a table and everything is level but wood is thicker on one side than the other.i have to flip rotate it and mess with for a very long time. To get each corner even. So one corner will be 1.12 , the other 1.14 the other 1.17 the other 1.15 ( just an example) what am I doing wrong?

@jakethehulk 3 жыл бұрын

Is your peice flat on your bench on one side? If it isn't then It's probably tipping as you pass over it. If you stick and shim your stock on the first pass it will sit flat for the second when you flip it over and you'll have the same depth on the entire peice.

@nstl440 2 жыл бұрын

Your work bench needs to be 100% flat AND water level in all directions

@charlesdabb1821 3 жыл бұрын

I just watched the video and it's like you're comparing apples to oranges.. The biggest discrepancy is your comparing a 11/4hp trim router to a 3 1/4 hp full size router. Most everything else has been mentioned by other commenters. The sled is great, $900.00 great , questionable. The proper rails and linear bearings and you could build something comparable for quite a bit less. Don't get me wrong Woodpeckers tools are great and I own several myself but some of there stuff is just way overboard on the price.

@BYOTools 3 жыл бұрын

This is not a fare comparison obviously Charles but I stated in the video that I more want to show how no mater what you budget is, you can afford a router sled system. Love both of these system for different reasons and hope that fame across in my video. Thanks for watching and your comment.

@michaellynch1159 3 жыл бұрын

I totally agree. Love the homemade sled and plan to build one today.

@cameronkaiharafishing9419 4 жыл бұрын

@BYOT Where can I get the small disks that you use so that your slabs don't slide while flattening them? Thanks!

@adameckert1627 4 жыл бұрын

I think they are called bench dogs. Rockler sells them.

@BYOTools 4 жыл бұрын

Here is a link Cameron. They are also called bench cookies. Thanks for asking and watching: amzn.to/2uw1zij

@cameronkaiharafishing9419 4 жыл бұрын

@@BYOTools Thank you!!

@markcopple2870 2 жыл бұрын

hi! Could this replace a large jointer and planer?

@WeekendWarriorsWoodworking Жыл бұрын

Not on a realistic scale

@aarontaylor1484 Жыл бұрын

So for that slab make a nice clock with your artistic touch out of it..... inlet the reverse side so its lighter

@James-lo5ne 4 жыл бұрын

funny enough they released a new one that has dust collection.

@BYOTools 4 жыл бұрын

Right! Now that’s one I’ll need to pick up one day haha. Thanks for watching James.

@moonolyth 3 жыл бұрын

HAH, I think Ill ask them for one too!

@JoshuaFranzKefkaVolff 3 жыл бұрын

You really should be affixing your work piece to the table so that it doesnt move around, and shimming it to take the minimum to get a flat surface, otherwise the woodpecker jig is a very nice piece of kit.

@BYOTools 3 жыл бұрын

Great suggestion Joshua and I'll have to keep that in mind in the future. Thanks for watching and hope you enjoyed the video.

@rak7101 Жыл бұрын

The $20 sled, sry. Did it cup the wide boards? The $$$$ looks really sturdy

@frankstover3444 4 жыл бұрын

My Bosch has 1/4 AND 1/2 inch collets. And variable speed

@BYOTools 4 жыл бұрын

Nice! Thats what you want Frank. What size motor is that Bosch? Thanks for watching and hope you enjoyed the video.

@aerodrone2376 4 жыл бұрын

What was the size of the steel angle?

@BYOTools 4 жыл бұрын

I believe that was 1"x1" aluminum L metal. Thanks for watching AD and hope you enjoyed the video.

@mikeb4555 4 жыл бұрын

so, $900? Woodpecker lists the product at $999. Where is the $900 link? great video(s), subscribed. :)

@BYOTools 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the support Mike. The link in the video bio still says $899. Here is the link and let me know if it's more on your end: amzn.to/2QrwOU4

@aleksastojanov4033 4 жыл бұрын

If you want a cheaper diy solution of this quality get some exteuded aluminium profiles and put it together at home.Will be much less expensive and it is easy enough to put together

@minimonkeyplay 2 жыл бұрын

For 900$ I could go to the Lumber mill probably 20 times and use their large 4 ft wide planer.

@SirFency 3 ай бұрын

lol BYOT Tee "Shits" available. Might want to change that.

@cxlmobileheadlightrestorat7906 4 жыл бұрын

How can I do this for a diagonal sled?

@BYOTools 4 жыл бұрын

What are you trying to cut diagonally? Thanks for watching CXL.

@cxlmobileheadlightrestorat7906 4 жыл бұрын

@@BYOTools actually, not sure why I said that. I'm trying to make diagonal shutters v grooved with a router. Trying to find a guide so I can make the lines straight with the router.

@vanniedude 4 жыл бұрын

What's the name of that vacuum system ??

@BYOTools 4 жыл бұрын

amzn.to/2A4jgIj Here is a link to the one i have and I love it. Thanks for asking.

@troutwardbound 2 жыл бұрын

Pata pata!!

@rak7101 Жыл бұрын

Looks like it bows down when in the center

@fursphere2 Жыл бұрын

For the cost of that jig you could build a CNC router.

@chrisgover8643 4 жыл бұрын

Height, not height-th. I'd like to know more about how to make the DIY sled not bow in the middle, as that is more in most people's price range.

@BYOTools 4 жыл бұрын

Noted Chris haha! I thought about that in the past and I was thinking of using a thicker L metal or try and use square tube aluminum vs the L metal. Hope you enjoyed the video.

@rq1107 4 жыл бұрын

You can try screwing the angle to hardwood sides.

@micahtoland 4 жыл бұрын

Comparing a $20 home made router sled, which used too thin a piece of L metal, and a $900.00 professional quality constructed ready made sled. I mean no offense but the title of this video should be - Comparing a DIY Hobby with Professional Carpenters Equipment

@BYOTools 4 жыл бұрын

Haha! I understand your side Micah. Like I stated toward the end of the video, it’s more about showing the versatility of a router sled and no matter what your budget is anyone can have a router sled in their shop. Thanks for watching and hope you enjoyed the video

@billtiffin8298 4 жыл бұрын

Couldn’t you build a $20: sled for the Triton

@BYOTools 4 жыл бұрын

Hi Bill. You could build an inexpensive one for the triton but you would have to use steel or at least thicker gauge aluminum. Otherwise the sled will bend in the middle since the triton is much heavier then the dewalt. Thanks for asking.

@scottfreedoms4492 2 жыл бұрын

"High industrial gauge surfacing bit" . What does "high industrial gauge" mean? "

@jrbass62 4 жыл бұрын

Just so you know, You can cut that aluminium on you're miter saw with a carbide blade,,

@BYOTools 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the helpful tip Johnny and thanks for watching. Hope you subscribed.

@bigk4755 3 жыл бұрын

I have learned the hard way that you should use a dedicated blade for cutting Al profiles. While any carbide blade will cut Al, the correct blade is a triple chip with a negative hook. I lost an entire tooth of of an expensive trim blade, and even though my sharpening shop was able to replace that tooth and insert, the blade ahs always had a bit if vibration to it since. So not a high end trim blade anymore. Someone is going to argue with me about this, accuse me of lying, say that sharpening shop screwed up. Whatever. I shared my experience.

@CarlRayburg 3 жыл бұрын

Checked out your Amazon link. . .it says this influencers account is not active

@BYOTools 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the heads up Carl. That is an old link and I removed it from other videos. Thanks for clicking through and letting me know. Greatly appreciate it.

@contessa.adella Жыл бұрын

Being less wealthy…the simple angle alooominum rails type appealed👍. The obscene cost of the super system….and that you were simply gifted it for nothing kinda made me feel 🤮…Lucky you! Maybe I should “reach out” to Woodpeckers huh..Lol

@edcrego396 4 жыл бұрын

Why would I buy a rotor sled for 900 when I could buy a planner for Les

@BYOTools 4 жыл бұрын

Good question Ed. The main items to think about is that a router sled can take on much wider slabs, which comes in handy all the time for me. Plus a planner does a great job making a board smooth but doesn’t straighten a board like a rougher sled does. Hope you enjoyed the video though Ed and thanks for watching.

@bigk4755 3 жыл бұрын

Plus there is the issue if wrestling that span around from the out feed back to the indeed on a stationary planer. Large slabs can get pretty heavy and bulky. And to flatten a large slab in this way would mean adding a sled to carry the slab, more weight yet. A couple of other issues is a large stationary planer is very expensive, requires a matching dust collection system, and take up a lot of floor space.

@moonolyth 3 жыл бұрын

Bed frames are made from very rigid steel, with little flex, unlike aluminum.

@nstl440 2 жыл бұрын

Steel or aluminium is both good you just need to have a strong beam with enough height. Steel can bend also. Actually aluminium is better because steel also needs to support its own high weight

@kokeskokeskokes 3 ай бұрын

7:40 shows a wiggle, at least a millimeter.

@danielebling 4 жыл бұрын

Must be nice to have them send you one for free

@BYOTools 4 жыл бұрын

One of the benefits of being a KZfaqr haha. Thanks for watching Daniel and hope you enjoyed the video.

@muchograssyass1 4 жыл бұрын

Question; Do you really think that all of us out here have $900 to just throw at a router sled? If you're doing this for a living I understand the expense, however when you do this for yourself as a hobby a $900 is a little exorbitant.

@BYOTools 4 жыл бұрын

I completely understand that $900 is more then what some people want to fork over, which is why I specifically stated in the video that this wasn’t a video to show my viewers that the $900 unit is better then the $20 unit because it obviously is. The video’s main purpose is to show how useful a tool like this is and no matter what your budget is you can have a router sled in your shop as well. Hope that helps clear things up. Thanks for watching and for your service.

@muchograssyass1 4 жыл бұрын

@@BYOTools I understand all of that, but honestly I would not have even mentioned the cost of the one from woodpeckers. Anyone that does any kind of woodworking knows their stuff is expensive. I think the video is informative and I was able to gain some ideas from it. If it came off harsh I apologize it wasn't meant to be. Keep up the good work.

@BYOTools 4 жыл бұрын

No worries bud. No offense taken at all. Thanks for the input and thanks for watching.

@enzprintco.8625 4 жыл бұрын

$900?!!!!!!!!!!! NO ROUTER INCLUDED?!!! Omg! Wow...............

@covecityboys 4 жыл бұрын

ENZ PRINT CO. Yep these rail systems are out of here. Folks charge a lot for not much in raw materials.

@BYOTools 4 жыл бұрын

Yep its not a cheap system but I can certainly say you can feel the quality of the Woodpeckers router sled system. Thanks for watching.

@enzprintco.8625 4 жыл бұрын

BYOT - I don’t doubt that...but they would sell a lot more at a more affordable price. Although I don’t know what their cost it to make one of these systems. Definitely looks like very good piece of gear!

@James-lo5ne 4 жыл бұрын

I mean to be fair, A new jointer(my only real option where i live since craigslist is shitty here) is about 600-900 dollars for a freestanding. Id love to have a big jointer but they get expensive, this is a nice alternative. Which can also fit in my basement.

@ahmedlaith1810 4 жыл бұрын

هلا

@BYOTools 4 жыл бұрын

مرحبا Ahmed.

@TheNyhm1 4 жыл бұрын

The word is height. You are pronouncing height as heigth. Do you say weight as weight?

@BYOTools 4 жыл бұрын

Tony your that guy and thanks for the heads up. I'll have to keep that in mind in the future. Thanks for watching and hope you enjoyed the video.

@Yraens 2 жыл бұрын

This is a bad comparison when you don't use the same size bit on both sleds.

@m.m.7511 Жыл бұрын

Wish I could call and get a 900 dollar sled for nothing....

@uhmgawa1435 3 жыл бұрын

High gauge (?) aluminum, high quality fence, high quality router, high quality bit, keep the free stuff comin' ! Sellin' youtube commercials in the video.. Wadda ya mean sellout?

@BYOTools 3 жыл бұрын

Is that a question or a statement? Haha! Thanks for watching.

@uhmgawa1435 3 жыл бұрын

Obviously a statement as there are no answers here.

@David-hm9ic 3 жыл бұрын

@@uhmgawa1435 Most of us would call it heavy gauge. Kind of like people calling fine grit sandpaper "high" grit and coarse "low" grit.

@uhmgawa6533 3 жыл бұрын

Numerically a "higher" gauge implies a thinner sheet, wire, bit, etc.. So it remains nonsensical.

@G0F15H 3 жыл бұрын

4:25 I had to chuckle: "I wanted to show everyone that no matter what your budget is, you can have a router sled system." So... DIY for $20 or Pro-grade Woodpeckers for free. I'll take the free one from Woodpeckers please!

@zephyr1408 3 жыл бұрын

Your old router has 1/2” collectt capacity why did you think only 1/4”? Unless it’s a trim router? Unless your flattening tops for a living you are way into the bushes? Unless u hv money to burn or get it free? This is targeted for money to burn guys! Ask Gary Katz what he uses? I am a professional contractor making custom pieces & now I am flattening a 48”X 96” solid oak table top to a $5000 table & using a home made sled? It’s nice but you did this to keep that. Just keeping it real! Hey I would have done the same & you would be writing this?

@BYOTools 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the comment and good information. That Dewalt I was using is only a 1/4” shank. I’m sure dewalt makes a very similar looking one for 1/2” shanks though. Great to hear that you made your own router sled. What did you make it out of? Thanks for watxhing

@garysampson5258 2 жыл бұрын

You state that the Woodpecker kit planes the surface in six passes while the DIY kit takes twelve passes? Did you ever consider putting the big router on the DIY rails, and visa-versa? LOL. Gee, by your logic, that makes the DIY kit TWICE as good as the Woodpecker, right? You say 90% of your viewers don't subscribe..... wonder why? LOL

@kbent88 4 жыл бұрын

Woodpecker makes some nice stuff, but they are seriously wayyy overpriced. That is not worth $900

@BYOTools 4 жыл бұрын

Yes this is a pricy item but you do get what you pay for with this system. It’s so well built and heavy duty. Thanks for watching Kyle and hope you enjoyed the video at least.

@kbent88 4 жыл бұрын

@@BYOTools I did enjoy it very much! I priced out a similar kit with 80/20 and it was about $300

@bigk4755 3 жыл бұрын

Woodpeckers is not cheap but their tools are all top notch and very well made. Also part of that price is that you are supporting American jobs, not Chinese slave labor and engineering shortcuts. This is a case of getting what you pay for, and Woodpeckers is always the best, heaviest gauge, dead nut square/flat/straight. While I won't ever buy everything that WPs sells, I have and use many of their tools. I won't buy everything that Festool makes either, no one always gets it right in my opinion. YMMV!

@Box52222 3 жыл бұрын

Nice vid. Theres no such word as hith. Its heighttttttt with a T. Pronounced hite.

@The_Altered 4 жыл бұрын

I stopped watching after 1:08 when you see the ‘sled” sag as you make a pass...

@BYOTools 4 жыл бұрын

Well nice catch joe but if you actually watched the whole video you would know that I point that exact aspect out with the cheaper version. There is always a give and take with price vs quality. Thanks for watching though and let me know what you think of the whole video when your done watching it.

@robertcornelius3514 3 жыл бұрын

@@BYOTools , Joe has left the building.

@69elchupacabra69 3 жыл бұрын

That thumbnail is misleading. This is not a comparison of the sleds but of sleds + planers. Shitty comparison if you ask me. Like comparing a 2020 Ferrari in the Autobahn to a 1990 Honda in the EDSA

@BYOTools 3 жыл бұрын

I don’t know how this is misleading El. Yes the higher end one is obviously better but the main point of this video is to show others how a these devices work and how important they are to any woodworker. As well as making sure everyone knows that no mater what your budget is you can have a slab flattening sled system. Thanks for watching though.

@jonfortner3919 3 жыл бұрын

So you changed the router and the bit for your so called side by side. Not really a good way to compare.

@A.Dude. 3 жыл бұрын

I stopped watching at min 1:49 after learning it was sent for free.

@jamiebarr7367 4 жыл бұрын

Not worth 900

@BYOTools 4 жыл бұрын

That is a lot of money to fork over but man O man that system is nice and well built.

@BYOTools 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching Jamie and hope you subscribed.

@nstl440 2 жыл бұрын

Your diy sled is too weak. I can see it bending in the middle.

@mikeradic9218 3 жыл бұрын

Your time is very well priced as you have free sled $900 so your story stank

@empace5344 11 ай бұрын

Lol HEIGHT** Not "heighth"

@angelgf2361 3 жыл бұрын

no hagas trampas amigo, con el de 20 no le pones freno a la madera, con el otro sí, por eso rebaja mejor. tramposo

@BYOTools 3 жыл бұрын

Entiendo. Gracias por ver

@mallninja9805 2 жыл бұрын

@4:19 "because it obviously is" - lol what happened to "objective review"? You spent the 4 minutes gushing over your doubled productivity with the bigger badder router. The $900 thing is "obviously" a lot less valuable than a bigger router and a new $20 home made sled.

@theatfshotmydog8224 2 жыл бұрын

Woodpeckers is incredibly overpriced, I saw a jig in an ad one time that I liked and figured it would be $100 tops, NOPE they wanted $400 for the freakin thing. Woodpeckers is the Alienware of woodworking, you're paying for the label.

@admin8446 Жыл бұрын

Paid promotion. Paid in kind in advance.

@jellevr88 3 жыл бұрын

Ok video, you talk in a funny way though...

@BYOTools 3 жыл бұрын

well I’ll take that as a complement right?! Haha! Thanks for watching

@jellevr88 3 жыл бұрын

@@BYOTools I am sorry, I was drunk when I watched this 🤣

@shaynesabala 10 ай бұрын

This is terrible. You are comparing a 20$ sled that you under built to an overpriced 900$ sled that was given to you at no cost. The advantages you point out of the over priced sled could be overcome with another 20$ in the home made sled and you would still be 860$ ahead. Is it really an advantage that you choose to use a small router and used a full size on this comparison? Yeah, no….

@truth-ox3wz 3 жыл бұрын

@4:15 you explain why you made this video regardless of budget. However, you didn't mention that if Woodpecker did not send you a $900 sled, then you would still have the $20 cheapo. And let be honest, you made this video..ONLY because they sent you a FREE gift. BTW, I watched this video, but did not subscribe.