Short Rows: Techniques Comparison

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Roxanne Richardson

Roxanne Richardson

Күн бұрын

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This is the first video in this month's Short Rows theme. We will compare seven different short row methods to discover their similarities and differences. Short row techniques compared are: simple turn; turn and slip; wrap and turn; YO short row; shadow wrap; Japanese short row; German short row.
Jump directly to specific spots in the video:
Introduction: 0:00
Vertical shaping without short rows: 1:28
Simplest Short Row method (simple turn): 2:12
The purpose of SR techniques in stockinette fabric: 4:30
Turn and slip SR: 6:05
Advanced short row techniques: 6:54
W&T short rows: 8:04
YO short rows: 9:12
Shadow wrap short rows: 9:43
Japanese short rows: 10:43
German short rows: 11:50
Wrap up: which is best: 12:14
Future videos this month will be
Week 2: short row substitutions (how to substitute your favorite short row method into a pattern that calls for a different short row technique)
Week 3: the basics of adding short row shaping to garments that don't include them
Week 4: three different methods of knitting short row sock heels using German Short Rows.

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@schellywagoner8264
@schellywagoner8264 2 жыл бұрын
Many teachers show *how* - and their teaching is appreciated. You show *why* and I cannot thank you enough. I not only learn new techniques, but I become a wiser knitter. Be well, and thanks again. 💞
@rachelmerrie
@rachelmerrie 3 ай бұрын
I love social media for the exact reason of you making this video 7 years ago and it saving my life today.
@monilee4321
@monilee4321 4 ай бұрын
keep coming back here for ur help. Thank U!
@danielmathews2033
@danielmathews2033 6 ай бұрын
Truly excellent illustration and explanation! This is exactly what i was searching for but did not expect to actually find. Thank you 🙏
@GalacticChimp
@GalacticChimp 9 ай бұрын
I finally understand why (some) say that German and Japanese short rows produce the exact same result, so thank you for that. But I execute Japanese short rows differently - and in my case it does not produce the same result - because I work the clip-marked yarn together with the stitch BESIDE the turning point so that it pulls the gap closed. Thank you for the clear demonstration so that I can finally understand how German and Japanese short rows compare.
@gratituderanch9406
@gratituderanch9406 Жыл бұрын
4 Years Later and I’d Still LOVE this demo in the round!!! You did so good and love the contrasting colors. Please do an in the ROUND demo like this one!
@jacquedooley1577
@jacquedooley1577 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for taking the mystery out of the different short row techniques. Your videos are awesome, easy to understand and very clear. Thank you for speaking clearly and slowly. I am deaf and you are easy to understand and you modulate your voice so well. I love your videos.
@333whiteraven
@333whiteraven Жыл бұрын
I did a wrap and turn for multiple rows and completely regretted it and started to use German Shortrows. I am thrilled to learn about Japanese short rows because now when I knit back across those turns, I can pick up the extra slack and knit it together! Phew, you saved me a lot of ripping!!!!
@dig4info
@dig4info 7 жыл бұрын
Very informative, Roxanne. I imagine it takes considerable time and effort to put together these videos. Thank you very much for your willingness to freely share your expertise with the rest of us.
@RoxanneRichardson
@RoxanneRichardson 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you! And you're welcome! :-)
@jayalmonte
@jayalmonte 3 жыл бұрын
I feel like Roxanne Richardson is the tenured Harvard professor of knitting professors! :-) Thank you Roxanne!
@patriciafuchs7023
@patriciafuchs7023 Жыл бұрын
Wow, great comparison. Thank you so much for doing all the swatches for us, brilliant video! Thank you & Greetings from Austria 🙂
@juliaschnell5083
@juliaschnell5083 8 ай бұрын
This is an amazing explainer, your demo pieces are so helpful! Thank you for making this!
@ginalevesque6596
@ginalevesque6596 3 жыл бұрын
Very well explained ; for the first time , I understand “the mechanism “ of these techniques ! Thank you 🙏 a lot ! Now I will keep your tuto as THE REFERENCE and will be rewatching it as often as I will need until I “master “ these short-rows ......
@rosiemckinney1061
@rosiemckinney1061 2 жыл бұрын
I appreciate you showing us this comparison of the different techniques. Thank you.
@iviaqua
@iviaqua 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you, Roxanne, this is a great video!!! I was super confused. You explain clearly.
@patogden856
@patogden856 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Roxanne for taking the time . Very clear , best yet . Cheers Pat nz
@Zombieshiro
@Zombieshiro 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome informative video! Love that you demonstrate every techniques result next to each other. Thank you! 😀🌸
@songbanana8
@songbanana8 2 жыл бұрын
Really informative! I appreciate how your videos are always so clear and concise with detailed explanations and great example swatches that help show the difference and actual techniques discussed. I always learn a lot from your videos!
@samanthalowther6441
@samanthalowther6441 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks Roxanne for explaining this so well. Great videos!
@AmayaRodrigo
@AmayaRodrigo 7 жыл бұрын
Very cool video, I'm looking forward to the rest of them!
@joannayw5272
@joannayw5272 4 жыл бұрын
brilliant idea to show it in two colours. the best instructor so far.
@nancyeldahan8793
@nancyeldahan8793 3 жыл бұрын
I would like to thank you so much for your videos. I learned knitting from a book when I was young . Since my retirement, I have gotten back into knitting and I have found that there are many ways to make your project have a more professional look that I never knew about. You are my very own knitting teacher that I always wanted but was never able to find in my area. I also love your videos on the history of knitting. LOL
@karacreswell8437
@karacreswell8437 6 жыл бұрын
What an awesome, eloquent video! Thank you so much for taking the time to explain and exhibit each technique. I just can't thank you enough for putting so much information into one video.
@RoxanneRichardson
@RoxanneRichardson 6 жыл бұрын
I'm so glad you liked it! I think it makes a huge difference to understand how knitting works. :-)
@nballesterob
@nballesterob 3 жыл бұрын
I watch live 20 videos now and I finally understand. Thank you very much. I started knitting and then crochet but I forgot how much I enjoyed knitting. Now I can make me a beautiful cardigan I saw with short rows. Thank again and greetings from Costa Rica.
@amarasharon
@amarasharon 7 жыл бұрын
So informative and well done. I will be waiting for the next video. Thank you.
@rebeccazellner111
@rebeccazellner111 5 жыл бұрын
You made the differences very clear in your sample, thank you!
@auspiciousday
@auspiciousday 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for such detailed and helpful explanations of short rows. Really appreciative of your educational and useful video. ☺️🙏
@ajsdfkajsdf3219
@ajsdfkajsdf3219 7 жыл бұрын
Your video is wonderfully clear and helpful. It's this kind of teaching that makes the web search worthwhile. THANK YOU!!
@RoxanneRichardson
@RoxanneRichardson 7 жыл бұрын
Thank *you*...and you're welcome! :-)
@b33stings
@b33stings 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you this is such a well made, clear and concise video! I really appreciate it. :)
@jordishartwich1961
@jordishartwich1961 2 жыл бұрын
Wow, I've been trying to figure out short rows for over two weeks now, because I want to knit my first top down raglan sweater for an adult. I've been knitting one for a baby, but I noticed, that the neck and throat are at the same level. Then I found a video that showed a rised neckline in a sweater, but didn't really explain it well. So I've been watching so many different videos about short rows, but none of them explained the different techniques! Love your very informative and still short video! Thank you so much! Finally a video where I don't have to skip minutes of just plain knitting until the knitter finally reaches the one short row stitch :) So I commented on your video so that the KZfaq algorithm notices that this video STILL is very much worth watching!
@muffsmerino
@muffsmerino Жыл бұрын
Wow your videos are so great. All the samples are so helpful to see. Thank you.
@bubblebuffy
@bubblebuffy 7 жыл бұрын
Very informative and educational. Thank you!
@TheSasZKnitter
@TheSasZKnitter 6 жыл бұрын
Nice job Roxanne! As always your directions, examples and explanations are perfect! So clear and easy to execute on. Thank you so much!!!
@RoxanneRichardson
@RoxanneRichardson 6 жыл бұрын
You're welcome! I'm glad you like my videos and explanations. :-)
@patriciaponte969
@patriciaponte969 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this excellent video. It was just what I needed to avoid stairs steps in a baby sweater.
@EquivoxCornwall
@EquivoxCornwall 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Roxanne, you made it easy!
@CatPDX
@CatPDX 22 күн бұрын
This was excellent-thank you!
@ellenr.3409
@ellenr.3409 4 жыл бұрын
Excellently explained! Thanks a lot.
@str5122
@str5122 2 жыл бұрын
Oh my gosh, thank you for explaining this!
@ruxandrapetrescu260
@ruxandrapetrescu260 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you, wonderful tutorial!
@gailaltschwager7377
@gailaltschwager7377 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you, Roxanne!
@hillierjoy2098
@hillierjoy2098 6 жыл бұрын
thanks so much Roxanne.. your info is so clearly presented .. :-) appreciate the sharing as a newbie to short row knitting..
@RoxanneRichardson
@RoxanneRichardson 6 жыл бұрын
I'm so glad you like the video. I remember those early days of short rowing--I did not like having to "trust the pattern" and not know what the heck was going on! :-)
@Jillaneaj
@Jillaneaj 2 жыл бұрын
I am knitting my first sweater so I am knitting short rows. This is really a game changer for me. Thank you so very much for this very informative video.
@RoxanneRichardson
@RoxanneRichardson 2 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@PaigeTheFramer
@PaigeTheFramer 6 жыл бұрын
Such a great video! Thanks
@Kloulock
@Kloulock 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for that descriptive explanation on short rows! That chart was my "ah ha" moment! Now I understand; finally!You're an amazing teacher!
@RoxanneRichardson
@RoxanneRichardson 3 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@leewolsoncroft8508
@leewolsoncroft8508 6 жыл бұрын
never knew there were so many techniques. Thank you
@RoxanneRichardson
@RoxanneRichardson 6 жыл бұрын
You're welcome! Techniques...I got a million of 'em. :-)
@redredwine1277
@redredwine1277 6 жыл бұрын
This is awesome expert video tutorial, knowledgeable that's why I subscribed🌹thanks for sharing and Merry Christmas 🎄
@RoxanneRichardson
@RoxanneRichardson 6 жыл бұрын
I'm so glad you liked it! :-)
@IzzyisDizzyandFizzy
@IzzyisDizzyandFizzy 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, that was super useful!!
@Painter931
@Painter931 5 жыл бұрын
I just used (ftb) stitches five on each side for my short rows on heel section just like when I started my toe section and I was good to go. No seams no holes. Perfect heel. Don't have to bother wrap and turn and making double stitches. Ftb stitch makes the double stitch nice and neat. Then knit across row and knit double stitches heel is done. No sweat.
@maylien
@maylien 7 жыл бұрын
Great and thorough analyses . Your examples and demonstrations of them were excellent. Thank you!
@donnaridenhour-mchenry240
@donnaridenhour-mchenry240 5 жыл бұрын
Wow. Scares me; LOL!! Thanks for your T & E!
@jesseyouillon5777
@jesseyouillon5777 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you thank you thank you for this video!!!
@NiritFreimanMalkishuArt
@NiritFreimanMalkishuArt 7 жыл бұрын
. Thank you so much for a clear and so helpful video demo
@RoxanneRichardson
@RoxanneRichardson 7 жыл бұрын
I'm glad you liked it! :-)
@gratituderanch9406
@gratituderanch9406 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you. What about working short rows in the round? For some reason my short rows aren’t working in the round (W&T) and I suspect it’s because in the pattern I’m having to knit pick up purled wraps for half, as it’s round.... only there does it leave gaps. And I don’t get the holes when I work flat....
@anbourbon9349
@anbourbon9349 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@domaiphuong
@domaiphuong 10 ай бұрын
thank you!
@risenshine2783
@risenshine2783 Жыл бұрын
Thank you i was puzzled about the shawl collar on a toddler jumper pattern as it simply said sl 1 on the turn…I got holes!
@mariemccullough9874
@mariemccullough9874 6 жыл бұрын
my favorite is the german short row
@portraitsandpastimes
@portraitsandpastimes 9 ай бұрын
loved this video! I was just wondering about all the different types of short rows. Here it is all in one video!!! I learned so much. Thank you! Also, I LOVE that shawl! Is it a pattern I can find somewhere?
@RoxanneRichardson
@RoxanneRichardson 9 ай бұрын
It's the Criss Cross Shawl www.ravelry.com/patterns/library/criss-cross-8
@agave20091
@agave20091 8 ай бұрын
Could u explain the last two techniques in more detail? I've looked a number of times and don't understand.
@tsonus
@tsonus 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Roxanne, Is it possible to do short rows on a 2x2 rib? I’m wanting to make a collar deeper at the back than the front. Thanks for any help you can give.
@RoxanneRichardson
@RoxanneRichardson 4 жыл бұрын
You absolutely can. If you ask your question (again) in my Ravelry group, it'll be easier to show you/explain how to do that, plus others will be able to see the question/answer and learn from it.
@colleenpreston2810
@colleenpreston2810 3 жыл бұрын
I love your videos and help. I am making a shoreline vest that calls for Sunday short rows I prefer German short rows my question is If I do the German short rows would I do my count One stitch more like we are suppose to when pattern doing German short rows vs wrap and turn For example if pattern says knit to 3 stitches before previous turning point would I work to 2 stitches. Thankyou for your time on this
@RoxanneRichardson
@RoxanneRichardson 3 жыл бұрын
This video explains how to figure out/plan short row substitutions. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/jcmJZ7iAl5uYomw.html
@Kanoock
@Kanoock 6 жыл бұрын
Which short row technique would Priscilla Wilde's short row method be considered?
@RoxanneRichardson
@RoxanneRichardson 6 жыл бұрын
That technique doesn't fall into either of these families. It wouldn't be suitable for staggered short row situations, as it would be quite visible. With short row heels, the diagonal line of stacked short rows is visible (and acceptable), so it works fine. This technique borrows from the heel flap heel turn technique of using a slip stitch short row turn, and decreasing across the gap, but compensating for it with an increase, in order to maintain the stitch count. (WIth a heel flap heel turn, the decreases are what form the heel cup.) The W&T, YO, and shadow wrap SRs essentially increase at the turn, and then decrease the extra loop out upon return. This method places the inc next to the dec. It's a special type of SR to be used in a specific set of circumstances.
@libbyworkman3459
@libbyworkman3459 Жыл бұрын
The purple swatches at the beginning of the video are wonderful. I can see exactly in the work the end result, but I quickly am in the weeds when you switch to the blue stripes. To me, they all look exactly the same. I mean exactly the same no difference.
@RoxanneRichardson
@RoxanneRichardson Жыл бұрын
In every aspect of knitting, there are always multiple ways to get to the same end point. Sometimes that end point is exactly the same for two different processes/techniques. Other times, the result is so similar as to be negligible. The goal is not for someone looking at the result to be able to see the difference, because they all have the same end result goal. What matters is that different processes that can get you to that end goal, and how those processes are executed can make a difference to an individual knitter (they might see a better result in their own work with one vs another, or they might prefer the process of one vs the other, or they might be able to execute one more easily than another, or they might be able to remember one technique more easily than other). Some of the techniques do produce exactly the same result, some do not. Because these techniques are produced in different ways, some are more easily substituted for each other, while others will take a bit of thought/planning to substitute, because they are in different "families" of short rows The pattern might present clues about when to turn in a way that applies to one family of short rows, but not the other.
@libbyworkman3459
@libbyworkman3459 Жыл бұрын
@@RoxanneRichardson thank you so much for the response. Do you have any video where you show the advantages of using one method over another one? I’m asking because I am knitting dinosaurs for a little boy who loves them. With small objects like that, changes come thick and fast. I have read that wrap and turn, the advantage to that method is, it makes a more flexible, vertical knit. But after studying the different methods, I think for toys I could go with a much simpler method, which I think several methods are simpler than wrap and turn. If you do not have a pro and con video on short rows, that might be a useful future video. I have also discovered that Elizabeth Zimmerman’s method of make one works very well with toys, since those patterns are mostly knit one row, purl one row types. As someone pointed out, the increased stitch appears in the purl row above, and with toys that is perfectly fine.
@_Julie_Lee_
@_Julie_Lee_ 2 жыл бұрын
8:43 w&t
@lenamd100
@lenamd100 2 жыл бұрын
❤️❤️❤️
@annieyoung4
@annieyoung4 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you Roxanne. Always love your very informative videos. I quite often have “ah hah” moments while viewing. 👍🏼 I’m currently doing a pattern doing W&Ts. It doesn’t say to pick up the wrap on the next round. Is this an assumption? Do you ALWAYS pick up the wrap?
@RoxanneRichardson
@RoxanneRichardson 4 жыл бұрын
It is not always an assumption. Sometimes there are good reasons not to pick up the wrap. It's not needed if the wrap is around a RS purl or if done in garter stitch. Sometimes the wraps are functional and decorative. It's always helpful if the designer states to pick up wraps (or specifically says NOT to), so you can't always be sure. If you're still unsure about what to do, you can email the designer or post your question on Ravelry with a link to the pattern page so we can see what you're making and make a guess about how to handle it.
@srice12
@srice12 4 жыл бұрын
Can you knit a combination of gusset stitches with short rows to help create the heel shaping??
@RoxanneRichardson
@RoxanneRichardson 4 жыл бұрын
Every sock with a heel has short rows of some sort, whether there is a gusset or not. For a heel flap and gusset construction, the short rows are combined with decreases, so the technique used at the short row turn is a slipped stitch. That slipped stitch is then worked together with the adjacent stitch when you return to that point, which is how the cup of the turn is created. With this type of heel construction, you would not use a SR technique, other than simply slipping the stitch. Heels that are called "short row heels" typically use some sort of technique applied at the turn, such as W&T, the GSR double stitch, a shadow wrap, etc. These types of short row heels don't use decreases in combination with the short rows to form the cup. The total number of sts is maintained. In some cases, you might knit a small gusset prior to working the heel, in order to increase the stitch count (so that you can work the heel over more sts for a better fit). Then, once the heel was complete, you might knit another gusset to decrease the number of sts back down, again. But again, with a heel flap and heel turn, you do not use a technique other than simply slipping the st at the turn.
@srice12
@srice12 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you Roxanne, im knitting the bramble berry sock pattern from sew sweet violet and what Im trying to do is knit her heel in a contrast color ( because I love her heel pattern) but it seems to me that I need to shorten up the gusset stitches in order for the contrast color to look right, otherwise with all the gusset stitches it shapes very weirdly, i dont like it. So i have been rattling my brain to figure out how to use her method yet be able to knit the contrast heel in the diagonal/perpendicular shape where the colors meet. If that makes any sense..?? I hope.
@katrinehammer
@katrinehammer 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for a very good tutorial. I am knitting a raglan sweater (in the round) with a moss stitch pattern, and would like to raise the back of the sweater using short rows. Is there any way to knit short rows without disrupting the moss stitch pattern? I can´t seem to find a way to make it work, because the short row turns seems to disrupt the pattern no matter what I do! Any tips would be very welcome :) NB: The moss stitch pattern = *Round 1 & 2: K1, P1 til end of the round. Round 3 & 4:: P1, K1 til end of the round*.
@RoxanneRichardson
@RoxanneRichardson 4 жыл бұрын
A set of short rows adds two rows, so you can add short rows without disrupting stitch pattern continuity when you have a one- or two-row repeat, because you're just inserting an extra repeat (or two) between the existing repeats. Your pattern has a 4-row repeat, so there's no way to avoid disrupting the stitch pattern, because you're adding 1/2 a repeat
@katrinehammer
@katrinehammer 4 жыл бұрын
@@RoxanneRichardson Thank you for your quick answer - that was what I thought too. Is there any other way I can raise or shape the neck with raglan decreases?
@lindahider6068
@lindahider6068 5 жыл бұрын
Short row wrap
@dukeofpurl
@dukeofpurl 7 жыл бұрын
Awesome!! German!! German!!! German!! LOL
@juliegogo2941
@juliegogo2941 3 жыл бұрын
Nice cowl neck dickey. Thanks
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