ROY KEANE AS A MANAGER DARREN BENT STORY

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@enochbaffour3153
@enochbaffour3153 3 жыл бұрын
Love to see Roy Keane manage again and Amazon Do a behind the scenes piece with his team like they did with Spurs and Leeds 👏
@kevinbeck6785
@kevinbeck6785 3 жыл бұрын
Who would have him talks a good game on sky but couldnt manage to take the bins out
@wolfcreations6010
@wolfcreations6010 3 жыл бұрын
Would be magic. 👍
@simonoliver8576
@simonoliver8576 3 жыл бұрын
@@kevinbeck6785 I agree with you m8 his manegrial methods are outdated and belong In a different era any pundit can talk a good game on the telly m8 that's easy really ain't it? 😎😎
@kevinbeck6785
@kevinbeck6785 3 жыл бұрын
@@simonoliver8576 Thank you for your reply all these so called pundits have never been managers or have been sacked and cant get another job, its money for old rope...
@simonoliver8576
@simonoliver8576 3 жыл бұрын
@@kevinbeck6785 well yeah I know m8 I think that what is even worse is the ones who haven't been managers at least the failed ones had a go but yeah its literally money for old rope m8 ain't it any football fan could do it really! 😎😎
@AuthenticSelfGrowth
@AuthenticSelfGrowth 3 жыл бұрын
Roy's style of management is too old school for the modern day game
@hockeygoaliejesse
@hockeygoaliejesse 3 жыл бұрын
yes, society is just breeding p*ssies now.
@samoday2992
@samoday2992 3 жыл бұрын
100% . This generation is soft .
@aidygooner
@aidygooner 3 жыл бұрын
@@hockeygoaliejesse who's responsible for that?? The dinosaurs themselves who give birth to these so-called "pussies". 😂
@JJJJ-fi9dg
@JJJJ-fi9dg 3 жыл бұрын
There’s fine line between old school and being a prick. Roy keane falls into the latter
@hockeygoaliejesse
@hockeygoaliejesse 3 жыл бұрын
@@aidygooner Yes, but it's also the young people making the changes to "fix" things they perceive to be a problem.
@UltimateIrishRebel
@UltimateIrishRebel 3 жыл бұрын
There's also a story of a player, Brian Lenihan, who Keano was seriously supportive of after Lenihan attempted suicide. Visited him in hospital, invited him for dinner, and more. He also does a lot of work for the Guide dogs charity here in Ireland which he is an ambassador for. I'm just saying don't think there's only one side to his personality. He's not a psychopath.
@lloydymk2013
@lloydymk2013 3 жыл бұрын
No one's saying he's a psychopath, just a shit manager
@davidrowan3853
@davidrowan3853 3 жыл бұрын
I love Keano, as a Liverpool fan, I HATED him as player, respected him, but hated him. But as a man, a pundit, whatever form he shows himself in these days, I love it, and to say he was a shit managers a bit stupid! He's won more trophys than a lot of managers out there (1)
@thereaper3701
@thereaper3701 3 жыл бұрын
@@lloydymk2013 i think the game has just changed too much and managers have less and less power cause the Players have become crybabys
@wunwun8875
@wunwun8875 3 жыл бұрын
I think he comes across as a decent person, Very likable. Players are very soft now, as are people generally so Its basically impossible for Keane to succeed with his old school style. He shouldn't even have to make changes but Unless he adjusts, he will fail. Is what it is.
@azysheff
@azysheff 3 жыл бұрын
lloydymk2013 Yh he cant coach shit players unfortunately he makes a great assistant though, keeps the players in check
@colloquialsoliloquy6391
@colloquialsoliloquy6391 3 жыл бұрын
He took Sunderland from 23rd to 1st in a matter of weeks,winning the Championship title and Manager of the Year in his first year of management. Look at where Sunderland are now....
@jacqueswebster6463
@jacqueswebster6463 3 жыл бұрын
What did he do with Sunderland in the prem? Or Ireland? There’s a reason he’s not a manager
@colloquialsoliloquy6391
@colloquialsoliloquy6391 3 жыл бұрын
@@jacqueswebster6463 He kept them in it. Where are they now? He wasn't the Ireland manager,but we certainly did a whole lot better than under Trappatoni. The reason he is not a manager,is because he is waiting for the right job
@colloquialsoliloquy6391
@colloquialsoliloquy6391 3 жыл бұрын
@@citizentoxie3230 Lol,your argument is a joke, you diminish his achievement,and then judge him on hypothetical relegation, wtf do you know about tactical knowledge,Keane learned tactics from two of the greatest managers of all time,and won Manager of the year in his first year... Poyet? Poyet?!!! BWAHAHAHAHAAAHAA The jealousy is strong in you little man.....
@colloquialsoliloquy6391
@colloquialsoliloquy6391 3 жыл бұрын
@@citizentoxie3230 Lol,both Ispwich and Sunderland dropped like a stone after he left,because they are shit clubs with shit owners. Sunderland were promoted and in the Prem thanks to Keane Ipswich maintained their level thanks to Keane. You have more chins than he has had jobs at management and you are going to write off a legend like him? Lemme guess,you are a plastic fan,who can't lift a leg to kick a ball? Looolz,your trolling is weak asf
@watkinsrory
@watkinsrory 3 жыл бұрын
@@colloquialsoliloquy6391 Oh my god really ? Two year Ipswich Town earned an average of 1.3 points a game and achieved jack shit, he averaged not much more at Sunderland. His epl record was awful he won 15 games out of 53 and you think he is waiting for the right job ? Is that why its been so long because the right job is not ever going to be on offer ? As for diminishing his achievements he took a very well funded Sunderland into the epl and was fired because he could not even win 35% of his games. Exactly what achievement is there in that ?
@rooneye
@rooneye 3 жыл бұрын
"Did it make you play better the next time around?" Did it fuck.
@Whateverworksism
@Whateverworksism 3 жыл бұрын
sounds like roy doing his job.
@jamiemacdonald5203
@jamiemacdonald5203 3 жыл бұрын
I can only imagine the look on Keane's face walking into the changing room and seeing them doing yoga. I imagine a mixture of contempt and bemusement.
@nickclashvids3752
@nickclashvids3752 3 жыл бұрын
That's awesome. I'd pay to see that rant if someone filmed it.
@stephenrodgers981
@stephenrodgers981 3 жыл бұрын
Same lol
@baller84milw
@baller84milw 3 жыл бұрын
They wouldnt be alive if they filmed it. Imagine taking out a cell phone while Keane is yelling at the team lmfao.
@davidroberts633
@davidroberts633 3 жыл бұрын
Punch kick punch punch headbutt bite
@Mad_Intalect
@Mad_Intalect 3 жыл бұрын
For real, 2 hours? I'm dead lol.
@robwood8270
@robwood8270 3 жыл бұрын
To be fair Roy has a point. How can pro footballers not pass from there to there over short distance? These players are paid a fortune to to their job. Roy is right.
@GoGetYourShinebox
@GoGetYourShinebox 3 жыл бұрын
It’s two yards man!
@maxbuckley2638
@maxbuckley2638 3 жыл бұрын
the amount they are paid is irrelevant. The quality from what Roy Keane played with compared to a Villa side with Darren Bent on is massive. He can’t figure out why they can’t pass an easy ball because he has played with people like beckham and scholes who are able to do that type of thing. Just because you are paid well doesn’t mean you are perfect.
@robwood8270
@robwood8270 3 жыл бұрын
@@maxbuckley2638 no but they are stil pro footballers playing at highest level. If you can't make a short pass wtf is going on
@saab2906
@saab2906 3 жыл бұрын
@@robwood8270 don’t pay attention to this kid he said the amount they are paid is irrelevant what a plonker
@Dadember
@Dadember 3 жыл бұрын
When you look at what he says you realise he normally is right the problem is people are delicate and can’t handle the brutal honesty of the man, football needs keano to bring it back down to earth
@charlieparkeris
@charlieparkeris 3 жыл бұрын
When he first went to Sunderland he grabbed them by the scruff and marched them from relegation places to title winners. As a Wednesday fan I was jealous we didn't have him.
@thepublichousebrandcom
@thepublichousebrandcom 3 жыл бұрын
Roy is too modest. You never hear him mention his promotion success.
@davidknight8172
@davidknight8172 3 жыл бұрын
Why did he not stay on as Sunderland manager?
@sirhc8972
@sirhc8972 3 жыл бұрын
@@davidknight8172 I think there were differences of opinion between him and the new owner (Ellis Short?)
@davidknight8172
@davidknight8172 3 жыл бұрын
@@sirhc8972 Thanks for the information.
@thomasobrien4667
@thomasobrien4667 3 жыл бұрын
Omg it was only in the championship so what
@10mangakid
@10mangakid 3 жыл бұрын
It’s simple, he had standards that he thought that that team was capable of achieving. They didn’t. And there is a the whole different era. Players back then had the mindset that they should be grateful to have this opportunity and that they need to put their “lives” on the line. Now players have realized that they are the sport, they create the money and they need to put themselves first.
@vasvas8914
@vasvas8914 3 жыл бұрын
Or maybe he just sucks as a manager? If intimidating your players for 2 hours is the best strategy you have, probably the job is not for you.
@GingahBish23
@GingahBish23 3 жыл бұрын
@@vasvas8914 he’s not intimidating it’s just an outdated style of management. People need to stop being so sensitive
@vasvas8914
@vasvas8914 3 жыл бұрын
@@GingahBish23 pretty sure he was just bitterly ranting and nitpicking without any strategy in mind. Its not about sensitivity but about competence.
@GingahBish23
@GingahBish23 3 жыл бұрын
@@vasvas8914 nooooo football players now have the power in the game of football and it’s not good for the sport. Too many times you see players downing tools on a manager because players know they are safe in their 5 year 200k a week contract whilst a manager can be sacked and paid off without a second thought. Now that’s facts. They need to stop giving out these massive long contracts and force players to play for their place at the clubs etc…. Social media has made these new generations of players soft as a baby’s bum and unable to take any criticism… that isn’t a slam on the players it’s just a fact.
@vasvas8914
@vasvas8914 3 жыл бұрын
@@GingahBish23 that may be true, but still making your team play hard and passionate does not add up to good managing. Im not sure Keane is good at teaching anything else
@bbb-mo6fz
@bbb-mo6fz 3 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂 he would just lose it , I fucking love Keane
@macrovigilance
@macrovigilance 3 жыл бұрын
Brilliant Darren.. that is a quality story!!
@judge7866
@judge7866 3 жыл бұрын
Darren Bent is a great narrator
@phillipemery572
@phillipemery572 3 жыл бұрын
My guess is that Roy has that problem that a lot of perfectionistic types do as managers: they're not able to prioritize and progress. Good managers recognize you can't fix the entire organization in a day, and that not all your charges are going to be superstars. You have to get a little better each day, recognizing progress will always be gradual, while still holding a high standard. I think it was Bill Walsh who said, "If you emphasize everything, you emphasize nothing." Anecdotes like this suggest to me Roy couldn't see the trees for the forest. He's not the type to say, "Right, that's not where we want it, but we've got more pressing needs here -- let's work on this this week." All easier said than done from a computer keyboard, I agree, but I challenge you to imagine Roy Keane saying something like that to his backroom staff. It's easy as a player and a captain to be all-or-nothing, but as a manager or coach, you have to be more balanced and surgical with your approach.
@mrdubcek6824
@mrdubcek6824 3 жыл бұрын
Brian Clough once punched him in the face when Keane played under him, totally different world
@tafaemachimbiz6276
@tafaemachimbiz6276 3 жыл бұрын
world of bullying though 😔
@danmoran9362
@danmoran9362 3 жыл бұрын
He punched him in the chest which is kinda different
@InputCity
@InputCity 3 жыл бұрын
@@tafaemachimbiz6276 being bullied initiates fight or flight response. Maybe Roy doesnt want eleven 'men' whose natural response to a challenge is to run away. Stand and fight and you will be named Roy. Run away and you may be named Soy boy. The choice is up to you, be promoted or be relegated. Stand up to a bully and the bullying stops. Here endeth the lesson.
@mark.lawrence
@mark.lawrence 2 жыл бұрын
not in the face, in the stomach...
@jeremymagwood2815
@jeremymagwood2815 2 жыл бұрын
Really I didn't know that. 😴
@philb9235
@philb9235 3 жыл бұрын
I wish all Ex players were as honest as Roy is, Rednapp is clueless and as for Richards.....god give me strength!!!
@mikejackson1003
@mikejackson1003 3 жыл бұрын
I like Richards personally but can't stand Redknapp. He's as thick as mince and has never had an original thought.
@cegb551
@cegb551 3 жыл бұрын
I can’t watch Richards. Anything he’s on, I can’t watch.
@RayzaSNM
@RayzaSNM 2 жыл бұрын
I'd love to see a season long doc of Roy Keane managing a prem team. Preferably a banter club like Arsenal, Spurs or Everton
@pipbeale
@pipbeale 2 жыл бұрын
Id have him at Saints. People say he is old skool but I think he is more adaptable than people think. Also give him time to bring in winners and fighters to what ever club he is at and he will get results.
@richardthered
@richardthered 3 жыл бұрын
That was a excellent story from Bent. Roy is such a character lol
@chewdafat4121
@chewdafat4121 2 жыл бұрын
Corners as well.i can't understand how professional footballers can't take a corner.the amount of players that can't clear the first defender or over hit it is incredible to me.
@ChubbyChecker182
@ChubbyChecker182 2 жыл бұрын
Darren Bent is a funny guy, I enjoy him on Talksport as he is pretty daft really.
@niallcnoc9646
@niallcnoc9646 3 жыл бұрын
Brian Clough and Sir Alex would leave an impression on any man
@lumiere930
@lumiere930 3 жыл бұрын
well they achieved it all as managers and roy keane didn't. so there is obviously more to the job than just being a hard arse
@darrenppl5407
@darrenppl5407 3 жыл бұрын
Proper player
@matthewsmith2298
@matthewsmith2298 3 жыл бұрын
If Keane ever learned to manage his temper. Just even a little bit. He would have been a top manager. On paper. He has everything a successful manager needs. He just can't stop himself from wanting to chin every player thats ever played for him.
@vin8754
@vin8754 2 жыл бұрын
Never change Keano 🇮🇪
@df289
@df289 3 жыл бұрын
I think we dont all get roy but we see the good through the mist.Roy is good.
@neilrogers7259
@neilrogers7259 3 жыл бұрын
Roy was far from perfect but he was a top player because he had albity and desire to win and cared
@samadarif9124
@samadarif9124 3 жыл бұрын
Football wouldn’t be the same without Roy Keane 😂😂
@HeroYMR
@HeroYMR 3 жыл бұрын
Superb fae roy. That's the Way it should be
@mukharghosh5444
@mukharghosh5444 3 жыл бұрын
Classic keano!
@hugojackson6822
@hugojackson6822 3 жыл бұрын
Can't wait for Keane to become Man United next manager.
@damianclarkeed6683
@damianclarkeed6683 3 жыл бұрын
They need him on the coaching staff. I can't work out why ole hasn't got him on board.
@watkinsrory
@watkinsrory 3 жыл бұрын
Nor can I they will end up in the Championship so we wont have to listen you manics whine all the time anymore in the EPL.
@akamiguelsanchez9985
@akamiguelsanchez9985 2 жыл бұрын
And that’s why Roy Keane was one of the midfielders in the world for over a decade while Darren Bent only won a league cup.
@RepeatBennett
@RepeatBennett Жыл бұрын
i wouldn’t mind making it as a professional footballer playing at the highest level and winning a major honour
@martinkelleher5662
@martinkelleher5662 3 жыл бұрын
I agree players nowadays are pampered u can't say boo to them they class that as bullying. Back in the day of Keane n viera etc all those fantastic players that era . Now players are so disconnected to the fans etc . U can't tell a player he did this or that wrong in a game u can't give a rollicking anymore. That might be considered bullying . Sighs
@limi.
@limi. 3 жыл бұрын
Even though talks about "modern day football" comes in...there are managers that goes nuts...but there's a fine line where to be strict and where not to, Keane seems to be the same 24/7....He was a great leader on the pitch as a player but Pundit commentary is the place for him.
@VoltageLP
@VoltageLP 3 жыл бұрын
Darren who? But he's right, I'm surprised Roy never once ran out on the pitch himself to cross the ball into the box out of frustration. Nerves of steel.
@barryhercules6486
@barryhercules6486 3 жыл бұрын
Love Roy, but he's just way too hardcore to be a manager. Even Fergie has a lighter side.
@colloquialsoliloquy6391
@colloquialsoliloquy6391 3 жыл бұрын
Simeone? Conte? Wilder? Biesla? 20% of being a successful manager,is picking the right club at the right time,40% is transfers,and the rest is coaching and crucially,managing the people above you.
@WilliamWallace42
@WilliamWallace42 3 жыл бұрын
@@colloquialsoliloquy6391 Roy Keane is much harsher than all those managers you mentioned. Roy completely lacks empathy and understanding for his players, he will never be a successful coach because of this, he's too emotional when it comes to football. He has zero tolerance for mistakes, which seems like a great trait to have as a manager, but people make mistakes and Roy's lack of ability to handle these in the right manner has cost him a managerial career.
@colloquialsoliloquy6391
@colloquialsoliloquy6391 3 жыл бұрын
@@WilliamWallace42 Much harsher than Simeone or Biesla? No way You think Vardy,or Kante,or Bruno,Kane,Rashford,Verratti,Henderson,De Bruyne,etc etc would be too soft to deal with Keane? I reckon you guys keep forgetting that quality players,adore strong leadership,or worse,ye are judging all footballers by the most sensitive. Keane has managed two clubs. One, extremely successfully who dropped like a stone when he left,and another with mild success,who also dropped like a stone when he left. Fucking Alan Pardew or Mark Hughes kept getting jobs despite being crap,probably because they never rocked the boats with the owners. I think Keane would still be a quality manager in the Championship,or for a Sheff Utd or Burnley,teams who are built upon strong characters,but for some reason,people love to write him off after just two clubs.
@colloquialsoliloquy6391
@colloquialsoliloquy6391 3 жыл бұрын
@@WilliamWallace42 "he will never be a successful coach because of this" He won Manager of the Year,and the Championship in his very first year of management,with a team that was fighting relegation. That is success,why do you guys ignore that?
@johnnylebay2059
@johnnylebay2059 3 жыл бұрын
@@colloquialsoliloquy6391 Keane wouldn't last a month in any managerial position these days and you know it. The technique of always just shouting at everyone is no longer accepted. Especially if that's your only tactic. Keane is a bitter old dinosaur with a huuuge Napoleon complex. He's good for an occasional laugh but spending more than a couple of hours with him would be akin to hanging out with your racist grandpa with rapidly progressing dementia who just keeps spouting the same old boring, bitter, offensive shit over and over again. He isn't "hard", he's just sad and he desperately needs to go to a therapist.
@johnnyyen3007
@johnnyyen3007 3 жыл бұрын
Keane is well known and respected all over the footballing world, whereas Darren Bent's not even famous in his own house!
@allezlesrouges8391
@allezlesrouges8391 3 жыл бұрын
Ask Haaland's dad what he thinks of Roy.
@johnnyyen3007
@johnnyyen3007 3 жыл бұрын
@@allezlesrouges8391 check your history. His dad did Keane's cruciate knee ligaments before when he was playing for Leeds and was still mouthing off as Keane was taken away on a stretcher, and out of action for a year . So Keane sorted him out when he'd moved to Man City. What goes around comes around.
@DesertIgloo107
@DesertIgloo107 3 жыл бұрын
@@johnnyyen3007 Roy Keane isn’t gonna sleep w you mate calm down 😂
@allezlesrouges8391
@allezlesrouges8391 3 жыл бұрын
@@johnnyyen3007 "sorted him out" .. so thuggery on a football pitch and taking away a man's livelihood is the appropriate course of action.. hmm.
@allezlesrouges8391
@allezlesrouges8391 3 жыл бұрын
@@DesertIgloo107 Willing to put a bet on Mr. Yen frothing at the mouth every time he sees Graham Souness on his telly
@LG-kl3co
@LG-kl3co 3 жыл бұрын
Not a player I ever liked....but you would always have wanted him in your own team for sure !
@MW-zd5gn
@MW-zd5gn 3 жыл бұрын
Iconic 😂😂😂 yoga
@munsterfloyd
@munsterfloyd 2 жыл бұрын
He is right.. There are guy earning a fortune with big clubs and you will often hear commentators say things like, "it was on his weaker leg", or "he wasn't expecting the keeper to fumble it..." or "that was a poor cross." At this level and earning the kind of money they are on, no top pro player should have a "weaker" leg and all should be able to cross or pass a ball accurately.
@user-kl1me4bl5i
@user-kl1me4bl5i Ай бұрын
They won the next 5 games on the bounce 😊
@Samboy666
@Samboy666 3 жыл бұрын
I was at that game. Villa were shocking.
@conalscanlon1184
@conalscanlon1184 3 жыл бұрын
Ask Damien Delanley and Harry Arter their changing room encounters with Roy.
@philipcollins2725
@philipcollins2725 3 жыл бұрын
I remember this game Charlie Austin scored a couple.they deserved a bollocking cos they were fookin shite that night
@TokyoJoe703
@TokyoJoe703 2 жыл бұрын
In Roy’s book he’s very complimentary of Bent, didn’t get why he was put out to grass by lambert at villa
@leannemm1523
@leannemm1523 3 жыл бұрын
Roy Keane the last of his breed
@Raulthomas30
@Raulthomas30 3 жыл бұрын
That’s why he’s not a manager anymore.
@AGuyCalledHenry
@AGuyCalledHenry 3 жыл бұрын
And that’s why he’s a better pundit than manager.
@SC-lo4mp
@SC-lo4mp 3 жыл бұрын
But Keane is always spot on? Football should be about football not flash stuff like it is nowadays. People just can’t handle the truth, which Keane often speaks
@Pdmc-vu5gj
@Pdmc-vu5gj 3 жыл бұрын
@Leeroy Smith Nah... A change in style takes time to implement. Keane and O'Neill are living 2 decades behind tactic wise.
@BennyH11
@BennyH11 2 жыл бұрын
I wonder if Darren Bent is one of the players Keane was talking about on the Overlap recently.
@abew7793
@abew7793 3 жыл бұрын
Aston Villa won their next match 3-0 at home against Wigan.
@TheStan80
@TheStan80 2 жыл бұрын
Roys old school brought up with YTS wages. Not like the silverspooned contracts 16 year olds get today. Modern players are for wages the old schoolers were for trophys.
@darkside3803
@darkside3803 3 жыл бұрын
RK played under some of the best managers ever BC/ AF and played alongside the best, why is it wrong to suggest what he says / said n done etc was wrong ?
@finley4836
@finley4836 3 жыл бұрын
He’s learnt from the best Brian clough
@ants84
@ants84 3 жыл бұрын
Fuckin’ Yaffle!
@realnesx
@realnesx 3 жыл бұрын
Players of today need to man up. Real players play through injuries suarez played while needing knee surgery then played 2weeks later against England in World Cup and scored, then you guy Sunderland player out for ages with shin splints
@DocTommy1972
@DocTommy1972 3 жыл бұрын
shin splints are stress factrures
@Mad_Intalect
@Mad_Intalect 3 жыл бұрын
Example Batistuta, who now has no cartilage in his ankles and can't even walk to the bathroom from his bed at night or play with his kids because of the excruciating pain, says he regrets that foolishness. As do many other "real players."
@shubhampandey5038
@shubhampandey5038 3 жыл бұрын
Roy Keane to Tottenham confirmed.
@GoldBallTV
@GoldBallTV 3 жыл бұрын
There are 3 ways as a manager/coach you deal with a display that makes you that angry. You quit, you bottle it up and hope to sort it out at training, you rip into every single player.... 👀
@ThisMusicIsToogood
@ThisMusicIsToogood 3 жыл бұрын
Fun fact: Darren bent viewed my childhood home when considering a new house but he didn’t buy it :(
@ericthekingthekingtheking4842
@ericthekingthekingtheking4842 2 жыл бұрын
His wife once forgot to put the bins out the night before, he told her to get out there like your life depends on it
@scottswankie1119
@scottswankie1119 3 жыл бұрын
Shoulda asked him how his celtic playing days went
@derekduvall6482
@derekduvall6482 3 жыл бұрын
LOL, he was right at the end of his career by then
@paulritchie5868
@paulritchie5868 3 жыл бұрын
Stupid boy...
@scottswankie1119
@scottswankie1119 3 жыл бұрын
@@paulritchie5868 the boys is a clown, every dressing room in the country would hate him as a manager FACT
@user-zq2ic8gn3y
@user-zq2ic8gn3y 3 жыл бұрын
Oh stop typical Roy its hard to settle for second when you dominated the league and Europe
@exiledhusso8178
@exiledhusso8178 3 жыл бұрын
Not sure a single European cup over a 16 year playing career constitutes "dominating Europe". In that same time frame Souness won 3 as well as dominating domesticly. But then again 1970/80's Liverpool was different gravy.
@Kofi_Mensahs_BurnerAccount
@Kofi_Mensahs_BurnerAccount 3 жыл бұрын
@@exiledhusso8178 people make Keano to be a bully but souness was a criminal. He was doing GBH and ABH on the field and don't give me the 'different time' spiel. Souness was part of a great team but he wasn't as good as Keane in his prime.
@exiledhusso8178
@exiledhusso8178 3 жыл бұрын
@@Kofi_Mensahs_BurnerAccount you said that Keane dominated domesticly and across Europe, I only corrected you to domesticly. I then pointed out a player that actually did both. I didn't mention the individual level of those players as you now have. Only you can mention the era souness played it, that's called context. Dirty/rough tackles was part of the game much like diving is now.
@ronniemacdonald2768
@ronniemacdonald2768 3 жыл бұрын
@@exiledhusso8178 yeah back when you had to beat two eastern European teams to reach a final
@rossmorebaz
@rossmorebaz 3 жыл бұрын
Keane was a great player ...... But Unfortunately he's got no people or man management skills .. he should stick to punditry .. coz he will never cut it in management as his stints with Sunderland , Ipswich and Ireland show
@29memyselfandi
@29memyselfandi 3 жыл бұрын
Got Sunderland promoted and kept them up ( look at them now) They were bottom of the Championship when he took over. Ipswich he left exactly as they were so not great/ not bad Ireland he and O Neill took a very ordinary Irish side to the quarterfinals of the Euro’s beating Germany in the qualifiers to get them there. None of that makes him a failure in my book.
@barrywalls7175
@barrywalls7175 3 жыл бұрын
Roy Keane respected Brian Clough for punching him after a bad back pass... he's not cut out for the millionaire cotton wool wrapped from a young age footballer. Great pundit anyway so hope he sticks to that
@joshcook6431
@joshcook6431 3 жыл бұрын
Why are people intomidated by Roy Keane, he's an old man that played football, he used to tackle people hard and gives people mucky looks, ooh scary. People act like he's Mike Tyson. Gtfo.
@misterp2538
@misterp2538 3 жыл бұрын
Bent: "Roy would shout at us when we could not pass the ball from there to there" Keane: "But that's your job...!" One of the times its actually true and makes sense lol
@boxthorncutter2804
@boxthorncutter2804 2 жыл бұрын
he wasn't the manager at Villa
@theconversation.
@theconversation. 3 жыл бұрын
This highlights the degeneration of the masculine and the rise in the emasculation of man
@matthewmcmahon8980
@matthewmcmahon8980 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly what the prima donnas of Celtic FC need immediately
@clintonmanning6433
@clintonmanning6433 3 жыл бұрын
I’d make a bet that Aiden Keane doesn’t become a pro footballer or anything that he feels is good enough to impress his dad. Nothings ever good enough for Roy Keane and he will pay for it soon
@mohammedsoofi3904
@mohammedsoofi3904 3 жыл бұрын
In fairness it’s not like Darren bent was garbage!
@oceanq
@oceanq 3 жыл бұрын
Wrexham??
@markhooker8520
@markhooker8520 3 жыл бұрын
Nobody can learn from a 2 hour soliloquy.
@muradtalukdar4401
@muradtalukdar4401 3 жыл бұрын
Dennis Irwin can. Ask Roy.
@KevinSmith-wp9qs
@KevinSmith-wp9qs 3 жыл бұрын
Proof that the best managers were average players. Zidane wasn't a great manager, he was lucky to have peak CR7.
@Tres_Nueve
@Tres_Nueve 2 жыл бұрын
Absolute nonsense
@Batemann1980
@Batemann1980 3 жыл бұрын
No wonder he was a terrible manager, I would just think what a prick. All these guys saying he was “too old school” imagine having a manager like that at your job
@Matters2023
@Matters2023 3 жыл бұрын
Roy Kean was not a Top player,Top Captain but not a top player.
@Jpbremner
@Jpbremner 3 жыл бұрын
Villa were awful at this time, Lambert was terrible he got Keane in and was sacked a few months months later
@woofdog1525
@woofdog1525 3 жыл бұрын
Players are too protected & fussed over in today’s game.They live in a little bubble.Average players in premier league becoming millionaires overnight quite happy to never strive to reach the top level picking up 40/50k a week.Roy Keane won league titles,played in champions league against the very elite..the golden age of football.I like Darren Bent but he ended up a journeyman topping up his retirement fund.
@richardegan1204
@richardegan1204 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed, they're like the Greek public service paid way to high with mediocre expectations and standards.... very few men among their ranks.....more interested in Instagram.
@lloydymk2013
@lloydymk2013 3 жыл бұрын
Golden age of football? Lol behave.
@sinclairjames5117
@sinclairjames5117 3 жыл бұрын
Of course, Roy Keane was a quality player yet in my personal opinion - a top manager too. By some distance, the best we’ve ever had at Sunderland...x
@martinkeys3717
@martinkeys3717 3 жыл бұрын
He's still like this as a pundit. If a team isn't top of the league its all "shocking", "not good enough". He can't quite grasp that not every team is Man United 1999 treble winners. He also can't grasp that football changes and seems to be in disbelief that Man United and Arsenal aren't the same dominant squads full of leaders and rivalries like it was back in 1998 - 2002... Its just cringy the moaning he does. There's 20 teams in the league they can't all play like champions. It's also much more competitive these days, the league title has changed hands 5 times over the last 6 years. Gone are the days of Liverpool or United winning 8 out of 10 titles... He needs to accept this!
@vasvas8914
@vasvas8914 3 жыл бұрын
@@oldchiefsmoke820 while 2 other british clubs won CL titles. There IS a competition there.
@stefreemantle8359
@stefreemantle8359 3 жыл бұрын
Keane never managed villa?!?
@EmeryBall
@EmeryBall 3 жыл бұрын
Assistant Manager
@juveno1000
@juveno1000 3 жыл бұрын
Everyone on here thinks this style of management’s so amazing. “Oh what a leader he is. Players are all soft.” Pfft please, if you were a player being managed by Roy you’d hand in your transfer request the next day. No wonder no one’s offering a job atm. He’d just be blowing his top off each day saying the words “desire and character” on repeat.”
@Cbart23
@Cbart23 2 жыл бұрын
No more fooooookin yoga!!!!!
@geoffreybolton1461
@geoffreybolton1461 2 жыл бұрын
Modern footballers have no values..driving about in Ferraris at 17. Keane was on 25 quid a week YTS..but it taught him.values, and kept his feet on the ground..modern players are posers.
@msdm83
@msdm83 3 жыл бұрын
I think Roy is on the spectrum. Dont mean it in a bad way. Obsessive, black and white thinking, particularly morality. Introverted. No understanding of people or social stuff.
@goattm2
@goattm2 3 жыл бұрын
Keane can't take the blame for his own mistakes so he looks for scapegoats.
@FuckFeminists
@FuckFeminists 3 жыл бұрын
Mmmnah. I dont think that suits his mentality. He has extremely high standards - doubt he let himself off the hook much either.
@villainofthepiste8275
@villainofthepiste8275 3 жыл бұрын
The blokes a complete nutter- Shouldn't be anywhere near management
@justbreakingballs
@justbreakingballs 3 жыл бұрын
People laugh and say yehhhh good old Roy but this is shite management at its finest. Not being able to understand others are different. I mean that says it all. He couldn’t understand how? He’s paid as manager to understand how. No good me arriving at a job and saying “I don’t understand what’s going on here!!!” Well sling it then and we will get someone who does. People stop paying attention after 10 mins so to go on for 2 hrs is just poor poor and wont work. Yes a bit of motivational steel has its place but this is nonsense sort of bully boy shite. It’s why he failed as a manager and always saw players as letting the manager down or throwing them under the bus.
@brianfenner9574
@brianfenner9574 3 жыл бұрын
THATS WHY KEANE WAS WORLD CLASS AND BENT WAS A JOURNEYMAN . PATHETIC !
@Pdmc-vu5gj
@Pdmc-vu5gj 3 жыл бұрын
Roy was not a good manager of men
@kpwand
@kpwand 2 жыл бұрын
Even sir Alex would not say that roy was world class
@neilburns8869
@neilburns8869 3 жыл бұрын
I can understand that Roy is a very passionate person, but to be honest part of me just thinks that he likes the sound of his own voice. However, I guess that you are better off with a manager who let's you know where exactly it is you stand with him.
@jacksmith4460
@jacksmith4460 3 жыл бұрын
Anyone in this comment section a pro? played at international level? yet man in hear chatting about "football is too this" and "football is too that" ...you lot don't know shit. On the outside looking in thinking you know everything about the financials and the psychology. "football was better when...blah blah" We can only really make quantified comments about the following ...is football more or less entertaining than it was? and the cost to fans on a monetary, and interaction between fan and club. Proclaiming players as soft or whatever, hands up here in the comments section ...who here has sacrificed their free time and paid time from the age of 10 in a high risk career where there is a 95% chance of failing by the time you are 20 and then having to get on the same rat race as everyone else 5-10 years too late? ...none I would suspect. Look you can have and express an opinion....but it is bollocks, because it's based on nothing but headlines. Footballers are soft these days...hmm maybe, maybe not...but people are definitely fucking stupid
@hamishmunroe9906
@hamishmunroe9906 3 жыл бұрын
None more so than you it would seem. What is this waffle? People are entitled to express opinions on a public forum, however yours is the most ridiculous I've read.
@jedsithor
@jedsithor 3 жыл бұрын
I think people are missing something here - Paul Lambert. He was the manager, not Keane. Bent says Lambert stepped to the side and allowed Keane to go off on the players. That tells me that Keane did exactly what Lambert wanted him to do. Either that or Lambert was an incredibly weak manager.
@Sanctified57
@Sanctified57 2 жыл бұрын
Great player. Useless man manager
@rooneye
@rooneye 3 жыл бұрын
He'll never be a good manager. Bent nailed it at the beginning. He just can't compute players not being as good as his United team. That right there is why he'll never be a good manager. A good manager would be able to manage a kids team or a shit Sunday league team. Roy couldn't. Probably the ONLY team he would have managed well was his own United team lol
@bigstan5705
@bigstan5705 3 жыл бұрын
By that logic peps not a good manager
@rooneye
@rooneye 3 жыл бұрын
@@bigstan5705 Why is that? Never heard anything about Pep not being able to understand/cope with players not being as good as he was. He managed Barca's B team ffs lol And did it well, so that right there proves my point that he's NOT like Roy at all.
@bigstan5705
@bigstan5705 3 жыл бұрын
@@rooneye he said himself he wouldn’t be successful at a club that didn’t have world class players or the budget to bring in players of that standard
@kpwand
@kpwand 2 жыл бұрын
@@bigstan5705 That's related to his ambition of wanting to play football like his mentor Cryuff and winning big trophies, not his ability to coach lower skilled players.
@seanrobertson9589
@seanrobertson9589 3 жыл бұрын
Is it just me ... Or if your earning over a million a year ... Is he asking too much ??? .... Try working a 40hr week for a living .... END .
@boxingfit
@boxingfit 3 жыл бұрын
Roy going over the top per usual...he admits he goes over the top... players in todays market to not respond well to that type of shit...them days are gone and the sooner the better we all see that
@haatpraat2993
@haatpraat2993 3 жыл бұрын
I'm not a footballer nor any kind of professional sportsman, though I almost made it in British Basketball, but if I had got to that level I would not take someone shouting at me over a period of time. A few one offs, OK, but consistently shouting, no.
@jeffreybungle457
@jeffreybungle457 3 жыл бұрын
This is why he is a disastrously bad manager, his own arrogance is a barrier to his ability to relate to others
@bobfred1282
@bobfred1282 3 жыл бұрын
This is why I think I would not like him as my captain too, despite everyone saying how much of a good captain he was
@grantcampbell1267
@grantcampbell1267 3 жыл бұрын
But keane was average anyway how the hell he got scouted amazes me . Nothing above average apart from pass completion maybe
@grantcampbell1267
@grantcampbell1267 3 жыл бұрын
Got ya lol a love keano man haha
@hardevdhanda76
@hardevdhanda76 3 жыл бұрын
I love Keane and not that Bent's version isn't believable and I don't know the full story of what happened but why didn't anyone challenge or respond to Keane's rant, they are modern day footballers it's different to when Keane played the game in the 90s. If anything Keane would respect you more if you gave him verbals and defended yourself not just letting him rant on incessantly.
@huwthomas6730
@huwthomas6730 3 жыл бұрын
Kramer a bully - simple! An obnoxious one, like Joey Barton!
@huwthomas6730
@huwthomas6730 3 жыл бұрын
Keane a bully, an obnoxious one, like Jory Barton
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