RTX 4060 vs 3060 - 25 Games at 1440p & 1080p!

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I’ve compared Nvidia’s new RTX 4060 laptop GPU against the RTX 3060 from last gen in 25 games at 4K, 1440p & 1080p resolutions to find out all the differences!
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RTX 3060 vs 4060 Gaming Laptop Comparison Timestamps:
0:00 RTX 4060 Laptops Are Here!
0:13 GPU Spec Differences
0:41 GPU Power Limit Differences
0:56 Power Scaling
1:38 Differences Between Laptops Tested
2:32 25 Games Compared
2:42 Cyberpunk 2077
3:09 Cyberpunk 2077 + RT, DLSS & Frame Generation
3:38 The Witcher 3 Next Gen + RT
4:05 Hogwarts Legacy
4:18 Hogwarts Legacy + DLSS & Frame Generation
4:49 Marvel’s Spider-Man Remastered
5:10 Apex Legends
5:20 Call of Duty: Modern Warfare II
5:39 Microsoft Flight Simulator
5:47 Microsoft Flight Simulator + DLSS & Frame Generation
6:06 Forza Horizon 5 - The Biggest Difference!
6:39 Dead Space
6:54 Red Dead Redemption 2
7:05 15 More Games Compared!
7:42 4060 vs 3060 - 1080p - 25 Game Average
8:13 4060 vs 3060 - 1440p - 25 Game Average
8:52 25 Game Average
9:17 Price Difference & Laptop Deals
10:27 Cost Per Frame (Value)
11:19 Is RTX 4060 Laptop Worth It?
13:25 More to Picking a Laptop Than Just The GPU!
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@JarrodsTech Жыл бұрын

See how the RTX 4050 and 3060 compare next: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/d5N5qaaiypqbh3k.html The top of the graph at 8:13 should say faster, not slower. 💲 Check out the latest gaming laptop deals at gaminglaptop.deals

@TheAgentAssassin Жыл бұрын

Thank you sir I've been waiting for a video like this. Not many on youtube.

@badderup9668 Жыл бұрын

Did you include Frame Generation in your 25 game averages? Hogwarts Legacy was showing as one of the best performers for the 4060 but actually lost without FG.

@Nikgreat Жыл бұрын

Forza Horizon 5 at extreme settings needs more than 6Gb Vram . If you instead test it at ultra. Difference will be a lot closer

@eyeofcat11 Жыл бұрын

thank you very much for the reviews you do. There are many channels that say how many FPS one can get with the DLSS feature enabled. But so far I saw only one guy who mentioned and measured how much slower the system becomes with DLSS. As DLSS takes a lot of the processing resources the system latency grows (64-76 ms on the desktop 4090). This is an issue for those who want to play smoothly and at the same time gain high cybersport results. Don't you want to direct your inquisitive gaze into this area?

@Tetrapak1234 Жыл бұрын

4060 slower in 1440p? Mistake?

@muSPKWoW Жыл бұрын

So if you remove the top 3 games in these charts, the RTX 4060 is about 10% faster. Not worth it.

@Drip7914 Жыл бұрын

Upgrading Gen on Gen for an entire laptop is pretty dumb but for someone looking for a new buy, the 4060 is a no brainer for 200$ more as you get 15% more raster and then double that lead with dlss3

@pushkar998 Жыл бұрын

@@Drip7914 so um if I'm buying a completely new one not upgrading a laptop from last or 3 years should I get the 4060?

@Drip7914 Жыл бұрын

@@pushkar998 Yh I’d say it’s worth a 20% price jump for 15% more raster and doubling of the fps with dlss3 as it’s in most demanding titles now and is rapidly coming to more. Rt increases are also higher than 15 due to efficiency of new Rt cores.

@s2korpionic Жыл бұрын

@@pushkar998 only 3 years? Not worth it. At least 5+ years, then it'll be worth it.

@FrowningTaco Жыл бұрын

@@Drip7914 It's not really a no brainer if you have to spend $200 more now is it. Also 3070/3070ti laptops can be had for around that much more anyway and is the same performance as the 4060. In the case of the 3070ti it's faster than the 4060 even.

@tanthokg Жыл бұрын

Is a 15% improvement in gaming performance after 2 years reasonable? I doubt that. Not to mention the increased price. At the price of 4060 laptops, it's better to consider buying a 3070 laptop instead

@TabalugaDragon Жыл бұрын

because it actually uses a 4050 chip, not 4060.

@gatsusagara6637 Жыл бұрын

If you look at the 1% low, it's nowhere near 15%.

@MyronZhao Жыл бұрын

I mean, you're not really supposed to buy a 4060 laptop if you already have a 3060. Same way you shouldn't get an iPhone 14 if you already have a 13. It's probably best for people who have a 2060 or gtx 1650 laptop from 4-5 years ago

@rijjhb9467 Жыл бұрын

Much 0f that 15% is due to the CPU

@theboogerbomb Жыл бұрын

it seems like the gaming performance uplift comes more from the cpu and vram rather than the gpu tbh

@demrasnawla Жыл бұрын

Wow the cost per frame actually got WORSE gen-to-gen, even the desktop 4080 wasn't that bad

@TheDarksideFNothing Жыл бұрын

Yeah the 4070 and 4060 on laptop are both pretty disappointing. At least the 4060 gets more Vram and a somewhat noticeable performance bump, but the 4070 is basically just a bad joke.

@vladdx Жыл бұрын

Not true if you include gains from using FG

@amadei2 Жыл бұрын

@@vladdx unfortunatly, frame gen doesnt work on most game. Plus the gains are varying alot

@vladdx Жыл бұрын

@@amadei2 Sure but more and more games are starting to add it including some of the games released before 2023

@Aryzon13 Жыл бұрын

I am sure next generation the performance will also go backwards.

@alun1038 Жыл бұрын

Around 15% generational improvement is not that great, since 3060 performed around 34% better than 2060. In some countries, 3070 & 3070 Ti are now more affordable, better off getting those unless you really want frame generation

@TabalugaDragon Жыл бұрын

it's because it's based on desktop 4050, not 4060. It's because Nvidia bosses are a bunch of greedy scammers.

@vladislavdonchev1271 Жыл бұрын

If you also take into account the slightly better CPU and faster RAM, this "improvement" just melts away into margin of error territory... Two words properly summarize these results: CORPORATE GREED Frame generation is literally the only thing the 4060 has going on for it... BS

@manghariz2211 Жыл бұрын

Yeah for example, in Indonesia A local brand sell a 3070 desktop replacement for only 1000$ It has 100% Srgb screen, replaceable battery, 11th gen Desktop Intel CPu, high refresh rate and all. But it is a chonky boi tho. Regardless it is what you said, better to buy that than a 4060 laptop if one aim is only for gaming and replacing your desktop.

@TabalugaDragon Жыл бұрын

@@manghariz2211 pretty much all gaming laptops have replaceable batteries though. They aren't Macbooks where battery is glued in.

@manghariz2211 Жыл бұрын

@@TabalugaDragon oh my bad I forgot to specify "replaceable battery" part. What I meant is *External* replaceable battery. You know, just like the old laptop of the day, where the batteries are outside instead of inside.

@adrimi5 Жыл бұрын

Finally! The most awaited review since the RTX 4070 vs 3070ti

@fallenknight2580 Жыл бұрын

They basicially have the same timespy scores :')

@AlbrechtProud1 Жыл бұрын

Strange how the mid-range laptop 40-series gpus are both kind of disappointing, given the performance of the higher-end chips. No way i’m upgrading from a 3070Ti

@graelstream2353 Жыл бұрын

@@AlbrechtProud1 I also told this to my friend, if they cant afford the 4080 premium. Its better to stick with the 3070ti they have or buy a super discounted full powered 3080ti since a 5-10% speed increase from the 3070ti doesnt justify the 4070 premium even with the frame generation on.

@kaushiksarkar6290 Жыл бұрын

@@AlbrechtProud1 im waiting for last year's legion's price to drop lol

@DragonOfTheMortalKombat Жыл бұрын

Kinda excited to see the most diappointing GPUs of 2023.

@wazkangz955 Жыл бұрын

Very interesting comparison. The gains were meh, but that cost-per-frame was insane for a 40 series laptop. This and the 40/3070 comparison make me satisfied to have bought a 30 series laptop.

@RazielXT Жыл бұрын

Also Spiderman, which is well optimized game (so driver optimizations wont matter) shows that pure performance is almost same here

@condorX2 6 ай бұрын

I'm still using my laptop with GTX 1050-Ti to play all my triple-A games at 1080p 😅 My video is up.

@BlackParade01 Жыл бұрын

Man I am SO happy that I decided to get the Legion 5 Pro deal from yesterday (3070, 5800H, 32GB RAM, €1299) instead of waiting for the RTX 4060. Thank you Jarrod for the review, it really made me feel better about the purchase!

@void9092 Жыл бұрын

Hahha same man!!! I got the 2022 Lenovo Legion 5i Pro with the 140W rtx 3060, 16gb DDR5, i7 12700h for only €1100. Incredible performance

@jonnypena7651 Жыл бұрын

Me too but I went for the 3070.

@beataoo Жыл бұрын

@@void9092 i also have myself an msi crosshair rtx 3070 version laptop, i bought it yesterday thinking rtx 4070 is very less improvement over 3070

@Kaspar0v Жыл бұрын

Lol, you bought it at Mediamarkt right?

@Orain88 Жыл бұрын

Same model I've had for over a year now. It's nice to know I still don't need to upgrade anytime soon.

@LifeTarik Жыл бұрын

isn't it more ideal to pick up a 3070 laptop on sale, that's the way I would go

@blondegirl7240 Жыл бұрын

That's what I did :D

@ACE112ACE112 Жыл бұрын

yeah maybe even 3070 ti

@ProblematicBitch Жыл бұрын

better to get the 3060 on sale than pay over double for the 4060 for couple of frames on most games

@jeffsadowski9244 Жыл бұрын

Or just get a 6600xt for like 250 bucks or for the same money as the 3060 get the 6700xt for much better performance.😊

@MashITTech Жыл бұрын

I have been looking forward to this one! Keep up the good work mate 👍

@Darkhoof Жыл бұрын

Would've loved a comment on how it compares to the RTX3070.

@charanteja200 Жыл бұрын

comparison of 4060 vs 3070Ti or 3070 would be helpful and gives people insight whether to spend extra $300-500 on 4060 or get a 3070Ti laptop that's on sale

@Null_4045 Жыл бұрын

I second this

@MaickWerner Жыл бұрын

Exactly the position I'm in atm!

@TheGloriousLord Жыл бұрын

@Samdevay Жыл бұрын

WHat's best laptop around 2400-2500USD for working professional Screen Size 17.3 or 18 Need performance near-about 3070TI and processor: i7-i9 ~Data Science and AI graphics 3D modelling ~Computer modelling and networking ~Virtualization Should I buy this gen or 12gen with 3070TI or 3080 or 4070/4080???>

@NamTran-xc2ip 11 ай бұрын

@@Samdevay ai modelling needs vram. Get a 3080 laptop on sale for less than 1400 or used. (Asus Zephyrus g15). If you want the 40 series, 1 suggestion is the Asus G16/g18

@talal26 Жыл бұрын

6:06 this must be due to the extra VRAM. FH5 can't run on my 3060 laptop with textures above High, otherwise I get a VRAM warning and the game massively slows down. With textures set to High and everything else maxed, I'm able to get 70ish FPS in the benchmark at 1080p and my laptop doesn't even have a mux switch, has a weaker CPU, and my 3060 is only 90W

@walrider-3801 Жыл бұрын

It's definitely a vram limitation. Same with assassins creed and watch dogs legion.

@samk7500 Жыл бұрын

Agreed. Several of the outliers here are well known to be VRAM hungry games even at 1080p. Hogwart's Legacy and Far Cry 6 are outliers as well, due to the 3060's 6 GB of VRAM being insufficient at max settings. Diablo 4 beta also needs 8 GB of VRAM for 1080p high (and still stutters a bit). I'm surprised that this wasn't mentioned in the review since dropping down one setting would've significantly closed the gap between 3060 and 4060.

@Bocampeon_2022 Жыл бұрын

On ultra it can run ok. But i dont get a vram warning on extreme. And take in count that on extreme all game is not maxed. And in this game there is not difference having or not a max switch. And if you have 90W, with boost is 105W.

@kimchunglee2528 Жыл бұрын

What cpu do you have? Ryzen?

@Troglodytes14 Жыл бұрын

@@samk7500 if they drop 1 settings just for 3060 then it wouldn't be fair lol

@taylorp3685 Жыл бұрын

I don’t think you made a mistake with the RTX 4070 video compared to a 3070 TI, this kind of solidifies that Nvidia wasn’t trying to hard to make raw rasterization performance gains with the next generation, other than in their top tier cards. They’re literally just relying on the frame generation in the less expensive models.

@quantumdot7393 Жыл бұрын

I have to say I love your power scaling graphs. I hope you keep doing them for every new GPU.

@dvr1337 Жыл бұрын

I hope they will raid the tdp to 200+ watts its kinds pointless like that

@TabalugaDragon Жыл бұрын

same!

@DragonOfTheMortalKombat Жыл бұрын

Did anybody else notice that there was no performance increase in 4060 after 100Watts? It means this is supposed to be a highly overpriced budget GPU not a midrange.

@TabalugaDragon Жыл бұрын

@@DragonOfTheMortalKombat yep, this is in a fact a desktop 4050 chip. It has the same die name(107) **50 class GPUs used for years now and it's got the same memory bus as **50 class GPUs used all these years. So it's Nvidia trying to scam you by calling it a 4060. It should be called 4050 just like on desktops.

@Samdevay Жыл бұрын

@19-omarhussein36 Жыл бұрын

Have been waiting for this one for a while!

@ZybYt Жыл бұрын

Same here

@GizmoSlipTech Жыл бұрын

Thanks for these tests! Love all the data! Some of my thoughts: 1) Many RTX 4060 laptops are not full power 140W GPU configurations, so take this test with a grain of salt. The vast majority of RTX 4060 laptops are in cheaper or thinner laptops, resulting most laptops being in the 75-105W range. Take for example the Gigabyte G5/MSI Katana/Zephyrus G16/Zephyrus G14 with a 4060 vs the same model last year with a low wattage 3060. The RTX 4000 series GPU scales much better at those lower wattages we often find in those thinner laptops, making the RTX 4060 have a larger gap in performance vs lower wattage RTX 3060/3070/3080 models. Meaning that when both GPUs are a lower wattages, the RTX 4060 blows past a similar wattage RTX 3060 and competes instead with 3070 TI/3080 CPUs at the lower wattages. This isn't the case the higher the wattage levels since the 3070 TI / 3080 can get better performance gains at higher wattage levels. So if you want a thicker laptop, then RTX 3000 series provides better bang for the buck in thicker/larger chassis. 2) I have really appreciated Frame Generation for increasing the smoothness of my gameplay in recent titles like Hogwarts and Dying LIght 2. Very few artifacts are ever noticeable and the increased smoothness is very real and should not be ignored when making a purchase decision, especially if you mainly play single player games where the increased latency doesn't matter as much and frankly is very hard to notice at all.

@filippetrovic845 24 күн бұрын

Meanwhile nvidia haters been comparing raster performance while totally discarding FG. FG is a game changer as it boosts performance per watt to 2.5x comparing ada to ampere and it leaves no comparison. My 4060 pulls 85w and we are comparing it to 140w 3060.

@Ali13445 Жыл бұрын

This should have been called the 4050M… Great video nonetheless

@dd22koopaesverde58 Жыл бұрын

or 4050ti and the 4060 should have 3500 or 3800cuda cores

@TechTyrial Жыл бұрын

Hey Jarrod! So while i was testing the Asus G16 i saw that it never really went above 105w while the max tdp is 140w. You are saying this is because the laptops hit voltage limits? Thanks again for your amazing videos. Big fan of yours

@antalpoti Жыл бұрын

Exactly. Apparently lower 4000 series GPUs only pull more than 105-110 Watts under synthetic benchmarks. It's the same for the 4070.

@blasianking4827 Жыл бұрын

According to Notebookcheck's tests the 4050/60/70 don't really gain any performance past 100W, for some reason they don't seem to scale past that wattage. Doesn't explain it not hitting the maximum TDP anyways, but at least you shouldn't worry too much about performance loss.

@niebuhr6197 Жыл бұрын

Voltage limited.

@JohnBog Жыл бұрын

The 115+15 watt 3060 will be remembered at one of the best if not best implementations of GPUs into laptops.

@filippetrovic845 24 күн бұрын

I was considering 3060 laptop when it came out + i would be able to mine eth on it to payback over 50% of price but i invested in desktop instead. Im glad bcs 4060 blows it so hard that it looks ridiculous. 85w 4060 in cp77 ultra with low rt i get 100fps while on 3060 its 50fps.

@shikikanaz4624 Жыл бұрын

hey jarrod, regarding the pricing could you also maybe cover AUD prices as well?

@anonymousbrat2556 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the review and thanks to MSi for providing you the laptop to test. It seems there isn't any major difference if we ignore the FG, is it due to low bus width in the 4060 ? I have heard that the nvidia will probably increase the bus width in 2024 for the 4000 series to increase the performance would have any significant difference in performance ?

@princejaiswal6487 Жыл бұрын

Leaving RTX 4080 and 4090 laptop , every rtx 4050,4060 and 4070 is chaos in terms of pricing and performance

@lil_brumski Жыл бұрын

RTX 4050 laptops haven't been revealed

@princejaiswal6487 Жыл бұрын

@@lil_brumski don't expect for much

@filippetrovic845 24 күн бұрын

Are you serious? 4080 laptops cost at minimum 2x the price of 4060 laptop. I max out any game with my asus tuf a15 with 4060. Cyberpunk at 100fps average on ultra with rt reflections. 3060 would be more like 50fps.

@manusiaorang1423 Жыл бұрын

3070 vs 4060 could be similar, can't wait for the comparison..!

@stepanomelka1213 11 ай бұрын

The performance of these two graphics card is very similar I believe. Price tags of laptops equipped with these graphics cards are now pretty close, but the RTX 4060 is generally less power hungry, which leads to an increase of battery life. Personally, I don't think that the RTX 4060 is such a bad graphics card.

@rennoraim8864 Жыл бұрын

I have seen your videos before but never subscribed. I just noticed the Power Scaling graph you made and I think that the graph alone is worth a thousand words, subscribed

@omarhegab Жыл бұрын

The video I was waiting for, thanks!

@jaroslav_vymazal Жыл бұрын

Great video. Forza and Hogwarts Legacy are clear outliers so it might be better to use median value instead of average because it's not affected by them. For 1080p median is 11.41 fps and for 1440p 9.54 fps.

@randomgames9025 Жыл бұрын

Is there is a solution for the low voltage problem in the rtx 4060 ?

@davidc3150 Жыл бұрын

Great videos. Do you know how acer nitro 5 powers their 3060 configurations? If I am right MSI usually uses 60w or closer versions of the gpus. Do you know if the nitro 5 has a similar pattern? I got a nitro 5 gen 57 with 3060 but I am curious how powered is the GPU. Hope I was a able to explain myself

@TRams0207 Жыл бұрын

Great & informative video!!

@romanbellic810 Жыл бұрын

So glad I got a Legion 5 RTX 3060 last year in February for only 800 Euro on sale. It's got the cheap 250 nits screen though, still solid though.

@GewelReal Жыл бұрын

you always can swap the screen

@neverendinchaos4800 Жыл бұрын

Remember you could still use an external monitor as a better display option, if you wanted to. :)

@romanbellic810 Жыл бұрын

Yes I connect it to my TV when home.

@Troglodytes14 Жыл бұрын

The i7 12700H version or Ryzen 7 6800H Legion version ?

@romanbellic810 Жыл бұрын

@@Troglodytes14 Ryzen 5600H

@kalree Жыл бұрын

When you're trying to get the best deal, you never know until later. For updating my desktop last year, I did okay, but for laptop, I'm really happy. There were black Friday deals on a gigabyte/clevo 5600h w 130w 3060 for about 750 US. I'm really surprised at how high expensive the 30 series gpu laptops have stayed, hopefully they fall further with more 40 series models out (or if AMD ever bothers to put out more of their GPUs in laptops)

@iikatinggangsengii2471 Жыл бұрын

true in laptops everything sort of uncertain since yeah we never know how good the cooler, how they tune the cpu gpu clocks and fans etc

@iikatinggangsengii2471 Жыл бұрын

even on software side ive seen quite numbers of bugs that reduces perf/unoptimized so yeah desktop if possible my advice

@thrillvilled111 Жыл бұрын

Honestly as a 3060 laptop user you can simply use NVCleanstall to remove the bloat that comes with the stock install and you can get much higher performance. For example, you might want to skip support for Stereo 3D Glasses, USB-C or Telemetry. Planning on making a tutorial on how to get low Processes in Windows 11 Task Manager. You will also get less power consumption for more performance and less fan noise for the same work load. With that said a great video for the channel would be to compare these cards to a stock install and NVCleanstall with recommended settings. If you are looking to get a 4060 or whatever and worried about the narrower memory bus and bandwidth then consider NVCleanstall to free up some headroom and (this goes for all Nvidia Cards ) get an increase in system responsiveness allowing the card to perform like a video card and not a telemetry machince logging texture files, games and usage for some reason.

@csabahoffmann5674 11 ай бұрын

@thrillvilled111 would love a tutorial on this

@nixnix22 2 ай бұрын

Lmk if you made a guide

@Tom-dd8su Жыл бұрын

I was in the market for a new laptop with either 3060 or 4060 and went with the 3060, no regrets so far. The 4060 model would have come with an i5 instead of an i7 and was 400€ more expensive. Looking back now im happy i went with the cheaper 3060

@ameft Жыл бұрын

Well, maybe the jump in raw performance isn't that big of a deal, but I would say that it's pretty remarkable that the 4060 can have the same perfomance of the 3060 at nearly HALF the wattage.

@anonplayerssss7819 Жыл бұрын

you're right but ain't nobody ever using his laptop for hard loads outside a desk with power available so does the price would have to stay reasonable

@Samdevay Жыл бұрын

@siyzerix Жыл бұрын

Yeah, no. Thats complete garbage. Want to know something impressive? The 1060 was 2x faster than the 960m at the same wattage. It was faster than the 960m at lower TDP's. The 1660ti was 40% faster than the 1060 at the same wattage too. And it didn't have some massive node improvement either.

@bfish9700 Жыл бұрын

Id like to see the 4060 at a low power limit as well as full power 4060 vs 3070. I wonder if 4060 at like 30-50 watts would be a good option in an ultrabook with 7940hs.

@dd22koopaesverde58 Жыл бұрын

the 7940hs have a igpu like a 1650 for even more low power ultrabooks would be nice

@pyramidschemer4083 Жыл бұрын

4060 will smoke most 3000 series GPUs if both are running at like 45 watts

@siyzerix Жыл бұрын

@@dd22koopaesverde58 Actually the rx780m is a bit weaker than a 1650 g6 in laptops. And to get 1650 performance, that 7940hs has to use 60 to 70w. So not exactly meant for low power ultrabooks.

@siyzerix Жыл бұрын

@@pyramidschemer4083 But whats the point of that when the 45w 4060 cyborg 15 costs the same as the 105w 3060 laptops while having worse build, screens, etc.?

@MaFiAMaX Жыл бұрын

Hi Jarrod. I love the way your comparassion videos. I have shared the video as light speed to my community.

@kskst4in337 Жыл бұрын

That was really interesting, we really appreciate your hard work! Do you be believe that in the near future, could we get a comparison between the 4060 vs 3070ti, now that the prices are dropping constantly since the rtx 40 arrived. Many thanks and hope to see the video soon!

@kurroth Жыл бұрын

Thank you for objectively comparing similar laptops! I feel relieved for buying a predator helios 3060 during Black Friday.

@mistercap5725 Жыл бұрын

Me too i got a 2022 nitro 5 3060 i5 12-500h for £820 on black friday it's also my first gaming laptop

@tigeralpha7600 Жыл бұрын

Looking at the price vs performance of the 40 series I'm hoping that amd comes out with something better like last year 6000 series Any idea Jarrod regarding amd or we are stuck with these horrible priced 40 series for the time being

@Samdevay Жыл бұрын

@nocil134 Жыл бұрын

I would love to see lower TGP too. I'm considering getting a 14inch, so lower tgp comparison helps a lot

@oliberrr Жыл бұрын

Is this worth it for non-3 series user (2xxx, 1xxx, etc)? I will be coming from 960m. Or should I go for the 3 series?

@attilad.8142 Жыл бұрын

I would like to see how well a 35 Watt 4060 does in games. Can you reach a good base framerate of 60 using high settings instead of ultra? Then double that to 120 with frame generation all while using only 35 Watt resulting great efficiency and low fan noise? If you should ever test at 35W, please also meassure fan noise, as I think that could be quite a selling point, although that would vary a lot between laptop models.

@iaderesel Жыл бұрын

To me the power scaling plot at 1:27 is the most interesting because it shows how both GPUs perform at lower watts (= less noise). I think rather than focussing on so much on maximum performance reviewers could also test "how loud is this laptop while running popular games at 60fps with medium-high graphics settings" which is what I really want to know

@shinydavidhowell Жыл бұрын

As someone who suffers from sensory overload and plays a lot of quiet games, I would also like to see that sort of comparison. For me, the 4060 actually *would* be an upgrade over the 3060 because it runs well at lower TGP and hence lower volumes. Don't get me wrong, the pricing is currently bad enough that when I eventually upgrade from a 1060 laptop it probably won't be for any 40x0 right now, but that power scaling is why it's only "probably." Oh how it would help if Radeon 7x00M wasn't borderline vaporware...

@Samdevay Жыл бұрын

@silverwolfgecko7064 10 ай бұрын

That's what I was thinking, but because battery life is a big factor (obviously) so lowering the necessary power for the same amount of performance is actually a big step forward, even if the max performance boost isn't that big

@craftedtunesentertainment5569 Жыл бұрын

Jarrod THANKS!!! I was waiting for you comparison test only! Please also do 3060 vs 4050 🙏. You're the best.

@TabalugaDragon Жыл бұрын

I hope he compares 4090m vs desktop 4080, because it's pretty much the same GPU

@inigosusaetaherrera4230 Жыл бұрын

@@TabalugaDragon the 4080 desktop is way faster

@TabalugaDragon Жыл бұрын

@@inigosusaetaherrera4230 it's obvious. The question is by how much exactly

@adityashekhar1090 Жыл бұрын

Is there a wattage issue in 4070? Internet is flooded with various articles that it's maxes out at 105-110w instead full 140w.

@xde999 Жыл бұрын

Hola muy buenos tus videos pero no tienes diferentes calidad de bitrate KZfaq streaming y las diferencias de preajuste y modo multipasada de obs studio ?

@simplydat Жыл бұрын

Some of the 12% performance differences are likely due to CPU and Memory upgrades too. So in reality, 4060 offers only single digit performance improvement over 3060. I guess this is what happens when Nvidia pretty much monopolized the GPU market. Not sure if it's true, but I heard Nvidia is now also setting rules for laptop manufacturers to sell laptops at a certain minimum price tag if they want to use the RTX 40 series GPU in order to increase Nvidia's brand value.

@Lukashoffmann94 Жыл бұрын

Wouldn’t surprise me. I asked XMG about their absurd 1k upgrade price from a 4060 to a 4080 and they only said, that they currently can’t offer it any cheaper.

@lebu6513 Жыл бұрын

Glad i bought only amd, and decided to buy a desktop. Nvidia is too greedy.

@gersongaete1574 Жыл бұрын

That's because the 4060 should've been the 4050, then it would have been impressive to see the 4050 beating the 3060. But they ruined it all

@AntiGravityC9 Жыл бұрын

the 4050 might actually beat the 3060 at lower power limits/thin and light laptops

@masoodreyhani4769 Жыл бұрын

if not for 13th gen cpu in these newer laptop there would be no improvements at all!

@user9267 Жыл бұрын

I feel like people are ignoring the huge efficiency improvements. This is great to see, especially in a portable computer.

@matt-be8lc 5 ай бұрын

Maybe they are on paper, but it's not like new gaming laptops have any significant improvement in battery life.

@torinriley7569 5 ай бұрын

@@matt-be8lc You're never gonna want to be gaming with anything intensive on battery regardless, battery life or no, due to the throttling that causes. Its just not the main selling point, even if it can be handy from time to time. The main benefit of laptops is to people who are gonna be traveling a fair bit or might be in a situation where they cant afford to move a whole desktop around with them, since outlets are just about everywhere nowadays. Efficiency improvements also are nice as far as thermals go.

@matt-be8lc 5 ай бұрын

@@torinriley7569 I see that as a tech limitation, nothing else. Just like Steam decks and other handhelds are made to game on battery, laptops should be able to too, I just don't think that's the focus of manufacturers when they make gaming laptops, then you also account for all the bloat that is Windows. In 10 years, maybe we'll see some evolution where laptops can actually game portably and efficiently on battery.

@torinriley7569 5 ай бұрын

@@matt-be8lc the reason the steam deck can last longer is due to significantly lower specs and target resolution compared to a laptop. The deck also has throttling when on battery, much like the switch and it's differing performance in dock and out, it's just less noticable at the lower settings you're running at. Its oranges and apples, or, well, consoles vs multimedia and work machines. That said I do hope there's a day where it's possible to get full performance and full battery life. On a sidenote, windows currently is pretty bloat free compared to how it used to be, a debloater is now more a thing of preference rather than need (on a fresh install at least).

@riklaunim Жыл бұрын

Some 4050 users (Rog Flow Z13 AFAIK) noticed Hogwards odd behavior likely attributed to limited memory throughput so it could show up a bit for 4060 vs 3060.

@zurak71 6 ай бұрын

Thanks for considering DLSS+FG in your graphs. For me, FG is an awesome feature that alone justifies going for the 40 series instead of 30 series GPUs

@obadakamal6470 5 ай бұрын

now its available to 20 and 30 series thanks to fsr and its decent enough to make it hard upgrade to 40 series

@zurak71 5 ай бұрын

@@obadakamal6470 The number of supported games is still by far inferior to those that support DLSS/FG, therefore not really a viable alternative. Maybe in the future.

@firstname4337 Жыл бұрын

played Diablo 4 last week on my Lenovo Legion Y530 with its 1050 ti -- played good enough -- a little stuttering in some places -- but nothing big

@robertopazsoldan9641 Жыл бұрын

So thats mean in my 1650 g6 laptop would be great

@momchilgradinarov6428 Жыл бұрын

I am very happy with my Legion5 3060. 15% is nice, but nowhere near enough to justify a replacement. May be 6000 series, if nvidia behaves.

@abhishekkunn Жыл бұрын

bro I'm going to buy my first gaming laptop should i buy legion 3060 or wait or 4060😮‍💨

@Winter_ECU Жыл бұрын

@@abhishekkunn get the 3060 no much difference

@abhishekkunn Жыл бұрын

@@Winter_ECU Thanks ✌️

@momchilgradinarov6428 Жыл бұрын

@@abhishekkunn Depends on the price difference. If the price is 100 or so EUR I would go for the 4000 series, but otherwise stick with 3060.

@user-kk9nw8uq9n Жыл бұрын

Hi guys, hi Jarrod, i need a new laptop for work (large photoshop files 10-20k pixels), gaming (2k monitor), and 3d sculpting. Hard to choose. On the one hand i can go with legion 7 (3080 16gb, 32gb ram), on the other, msi 4070 with almost same price, or maybe its better to wait other laptops on 40 series in stock? What do u think?

@midokibot Жыл бұрын

Thank you for your hard work! I'm glad I bought Lenovo Legion 5 2022 (Intel i7) on December last year after saw your review and considering it for quite a time and I'm glad I made a right decision. Kudos for you work, keep it up!

@Nenad-on9oo Жыл бұрын

Considering 40 series GPU for laptops is out, maybe do comparison on 4060 vs 4070 vs 4080 and give us advice which is worth it. I think most of people who look to buy new gaming laptop will be focusing on 4060 vs 4070.

@TheDarksideFNothing Жыл бұрын

I can help you with that already: 4080 is outright too expensive for most people, so it's basically off the table from the start regardless of performance. 4070 is only going to be a very minor performance bump compared to 4060 and doesn't even have a vram advantage this generation, but is significantly more expensive. So really, your best bet right now is to get a 4060 or a 3070/3070ti on sale. Personally I'm wary of the 6gb vram on the 3060 at this point, especially if you're getting a 1440p screen, otherwise I would recommend it on sale as well.

@aichesonoffice Жыл бұрын

Great video!

@mglisty Жыл бұрын

thanks for the test. Looks like My Legion 5 with 3060 will stay with me for a longer while :)

@concealed9016 Жыл бұрын

My dissapointment is immeasurable and my day has been ruined. Thanks Nvidia

@colmquigley7099 Жыл бұрын

Hey Jarrod, will you be doing a 4070 Vs 4060 comparison? Would be good to see

@TheDarksideFNothing Жыл бұрын

Yeah I'd like to see them side by side. Now that the 70 class card doesn't even have a vram advantage I bet there's basically no reason to get it over 4060 this gen. By my estimations it looks like there will only be a 10% difference in performance

@JarrodsTech Жыл бұрын

I plan on it, but I had some issues with the 4060 I wanted to use for it (different from in this video), so I'm waiting on a new one.

@randomthings1293 Жыл бұрын

130wt 3070 vs 140 wt 4060 would be even better...

@undifinder6643 Жыл бұрын

Makes me appreciate that I pulled trigger on L5P 6800H 3070Ti 32GB DDR5 at Microcenter for 1500 right before 40 series launch and it just sold out right after 1-2 weeks because of how popular it got.

@featzaigem7570 Жыл бұрын

hey jarrod! i was wondering if i should buy the lenovo legion 5 with the 3060 (949 usd on newegg), or the gigabyte g5/msi cyborg 15 with the 4060 for 1099.

@djp1234 Жыл бұрын

Looks like we've reached the end of Moore's Law

@ahmadhesham1389 Жыл бұрын

It kinda looks good against the 3060, but I feel like, at that pricing and performance, 3070ti laptops on sale or even 3070 would be a lot better. Especially when you consider the better screen/ chassis you'd mostly get with them. In my opinion, Nvidia is very lucky that AMD didn't show up much for competition in laptops this year. The generational gain is not as big as we've seen before and it seem they're only relying on frame gen which is still relatively new and, so far, only a handful of games support it. Except for the 4090 and 4080 laptops which cost a fortune. I'm not impressed.

@justaman4887 Жыл бұрын

Seriously tho why tf is there no amd option?

@NadeemAhmed-nv2br Жыл бұрын

@@justaman4887 they are still working on rdna3 and working out kinks

@fidelisitor8953 Жыл бұрын

"Nvidia is very lucky that AMD didn't show up much for competition in laptops this year" - That's the very reason they're doing this. There's no competition right now so they're simply doing as they like and having consumers like us take the fall. It's infuriating.

@diablosv36 Жыл бұрын

Jarrod did a review on a RX 7600 in a laptop which showed it was competitive with the 3070 in some games and sometimes a bit below a 3060, but i don't know what the price is like though.

@Sphynx93rkn Жыл бұрын

@@fidelisitor8953 Agreed.

@joaopires3917 Жыл бұрын

Im thinking about buying the Asus TUF Gaming A15 with the 4060, is it any good?

@robertpapancsev8891 Жыл бұрын

As a single player gamer should I buy a 4060 Asus G16 or a 3070ti Acer Predator Helios (or similar)? Im thinking how much of an advantage would be the frame generation in the upcoming years.

@AmitSharma-lh3pm Жыл бұрын

Anyone else notice that the 4060 had significantly worse 1% lows sometimes, that's def noticeable in game... I wonder why

@GregoryShtevensh Жыл бұрын

No? I saw them lower on the 3060... which game had the 4060 lower sorry?

@GregoryShtevensh Жыл бұрын

Oh yeah you mean the stability/frame drops? Yeah I get you! Yeah the difference between highs and lows is where you get your stutters

@GregoryShtevensh Жыл бұрын

Ok so dlss3.0 is why you'd want the 4060... but as a 4080 owner, I think the 3060 laptop is better for its time

@crossfire4902 Жыл бұрын

Because of the memory bandwidth of 4060 is way less than the 3060.

@AndyKunkel Жыл бұрын

I wonder how the 4060 is with content creation. Like Davinci.

@TheFunnyDictator Жыл бұрын

Hey Jarrod, should I go for a laptop with an RTX 3070 Ti or a laptop with an RTX 4060? Please reply to me!

@AnimexBoy7 Жыл бұрын

What's the wattage of each card? I have a 3060 mobile with 115W

@snakeplissken1754 Жыл бұрын

For the general price increase the 4000 series came it really is weird how little they bring to the table. Let´s see what the 5000 series has to offer or what amd´s mobile department comes up with. 7800mobile might be interesting. But then again.. i am afraid nvidia releases dlss4 (super double fake frame rendering) and sells the 5000 series cards of this while making it even less capable, but twice the price.

@jihadrouani5525 Жыл бұрын

Yeah, pls do a comparison at lower power (60W-70W), and if could record the noise that'd be awesome, because I assume the 4060 laptops would be quieter at lower than Max TDP. Some productivity tests like Blender renders, video exports would also be nice

@AcrylicKyng Жыл бұрын

I bought the MSI GE76 Raider with i7 11th gen and a 3060 about 2 years ago for 1200. This was after alot of research and coming across this chanel in specific, dont regret it at all, but as far as it seems if I want a more powerful system I might just get a desktop PC. The 4000 series in laptops have been kinda disappointing thus far for the prices and I dont see enough games with Frame gen to justify them. As always we appreciate the honest review and analysis you do!

@prymus1005 Жыл бұрын

When will we get a quite gamer notebook? Is it in the scope of the brands?

@seem36O Жыл бұрын

4060 is really unique how it can achieve 60 fps at 36 watts even at 1080P! This can be very practical using only small solar system considering ac adaptor running at 12v in laptop like Msi Cyborg.

@zipzeolocke2 Жыл бұрын

the display is a dealbreaker for me, I'm really interested in the new mini led laptops or HDR OLED

@Soul_Younes Жыл бұрын

Yes, please do one for low power limits, I'm looking for thin and light gaming.

@spectrum9294 Жыл бұрын

If i want a new laptop should I save money and get 3060 or 4060 for more performance or a 3070 at the similar price

@NootNoot. Жыл бұрын

You're pretty much buying into FG, investing into a software solution to boost framerates (that isn't 1:1 visual quality), rather than giving you a generational performance uplift. The efficiency between them has improved, although at 100W+ it pretty much becomes useless, higher freq doesn't really help with the gimped cuda/mem bandwidth count. The only thing these 40 series dGPU seems useful for are for thin and lights, which I admit is impressive. What has me intrigued is the results we got from 7600S from the Asus TUF A16. Although, Control benchmarks are one to one, and has the 7600S beat, in Cyberpunk and RDR2 with different settings, it doesn't seem too far off. AMD couldn't have had a better time to strike at competitive prices to keep consumers wasting there money on horrible price/perf 40 series laptop cards. Of course, with depending on what you actually use your GPU for.

@alaa341g Жыл бұрын

yeah and now that we're sure that FSR 3 with FG is comming for all cards new and old ( yeah most probably it won't look that good like FSR 1 did when it came out , but with updates FSR 2.2 is so fucking good right now so anything will improve with time especially that its gonna be open source ) so the whole marketing and selling point of this 40 series is FG , and now its gone hahaha,

@kaij5453 Жыл бұрын

the pricing/performance this year is real annoying...my budget is around $1600 to replace my 1660 (which is still decent at 1080p), the 4060 pricing is fair but i don't feel confident about that 128bit..like nividia what's wrong with you bruh, 4070 is just pure garbo, 4080 got some big juicy improvement but prices are out of my reach, so conclusion: imma wait for 5060!

@dgamingtool6762 Жыл бұрын

I've got an option to get a Lenovo Legion 5i rtx 3060 i7 12700H and a ASUS tuf dash rtx 4060 ryzen 7 7735HS which one should i go for? please help me out

@g4md0r32 Жыл бұрын

I wonder how the 7600m xt would perform to the 4060 laptop

@valkovtala1504 Жыл бұрын

Unfortunately it looks like that card has flopped

@g4md0r32 Жыл бұрын

@@valkovtala1504 Did it not release? Cause I can't find benchmarks anywhere apart from some synthetic ones.

@valkovtala1504 Жыл бұрын

@@g4md0r32 yeah i don't think there are any laptops with it because ppl don't buy laptops with and graphics

@g4md0r32 Жыл бұрын

@@valkovtala1504 one problem that AMD has with low end laptop GPUs is that their Phoenix CPUs will be like 30% worse but more than double the efficiency. With midrange though it will be interesting to see.

@The_realJtipt Жыл бұрын

The outliers espically forza and hogwarts legacy at max settings require more than 6gb vram, which explains why 4060 had such massive gains there

@PrashantMishra-kh1xt Жыл бұрын

Yeah but gap is closer on 1440p

@SkylarZ76 Жыл бұрын

Should I go for the legion 5i pro with 3070ti 150W on sale ? Or wait for the Strix G16 rtx 4060 140W ? Considering future games will use more features like frame gen

@harshchavan8123 Жыл бұрын

Wait for 4060 140w tgp one.

@adrianbalogh6161 Жыл бұрын

From gtx 1060 laptop which is more worth it?Rtx 4060 or 3060?

@Hubwood Жыл бұрын

Thx for confirming the 100W TDP Limit, beyond which more Watt won't make any difference. When I compared the 3060 85/105W to the 4060 85/105W I had very similar results. Great video and great charts, as always! 👏

@ineshdheer7236 Жыл бұрын

4060 laptop vs 4070 laptop next please!!!

@user-ts1xj4xj1p Жыл бұрын

In my county, zephy g16 4060 ver. is around 1600 USD while g16 4070 ver. is 2000USD. Which is better choice?

@tobfon2416 9 ай бұрын

Is the bandwidth more important in 2k or the GPU RAM? 3060 has more bandwidth but 4060 has more RAM. Ty

@migongaming Жыл бұрын

Been waiting for this (Review axioo pongo 7 fr [some indonesian laptop brand with desktop cpu])

@Troglodytes14 Жыл бұрын

Why would jarrod cover an Indonesian only local brand lol

@migongaming Жыл бұрын

@@Troglodytes14 why not (if he can get it that is)

@Troglodytes14 Жыл бұрын

@@migongaming You do realize that that laptop is just basically rebranded and repainted from Clevo N960KR right ? why would he reviewed an old outdated laptop with a disappointing 11th gen Intel ?

@ApacheNL1 Жыл бұрын

Do you expect the 4060's performance to increase as more driver updates are released? I noticed my old 1060 laptop performing noticeably better with every driver update. Since the 4060 has just come out, I would think its performance will increase over time.

@theboogerbomb Жыл бұрын

maybe 5% but it's not going to be game changing in any way

@Antagon666 Жыл бұрын

That's just placebo...

@EngineerMikey5 Жыл бұрын

@@Antagon666 Benchmarks would say otherwise.

@Antagon666 Жыл бұрын

@@EngineerMikey5 about 1060 increasing in performance as time goes ? Why is then rx 580 much faster nowadays?

@EngineerMikey5 Жыл бұрын

@@Antagon666 Then what are you even calling placebo?

@smartlearning6390 Жыл бұрын

video all we waiting for 🎉

@mikylllwar 10 күн бұрын

Thanks alot man❤❤

@prateekpanwar646 Жыл бұрын

40 series cards are faster and have lower cuda cores because they have huge cache: 4060 - 32MB L2 3060 - 3MB L2 Gpus now are limited by bandwidth not by cpu raw performance. That’s why they can even get away with lower memory bandwidth. And cache takes so much physical space, You get less room for cuda cores. You can even notice in CPU space with AMD 3D VCache that chips are so fast they’re just limited by bandwidth. After review: I guess they should had kept 192-bit bus and kept 12GB VRAM like desktops.

@tanthokg Жыл бұрын

And the clock speed of 40 series is higher too

@d1kgaws12 Жыл бұрын

Yeah wish the memory bus between each of the 40 series and 30 series laptops stayed the same.

@astroidexadam5976 Жыл бұрын

@@d1kgaws12 the 4090 could have stayed desktop only, the 4080 both laptop and desktop should have had 20GB 320bit, the 4070 laptop, desktop and 4070 Ti should have had 16GB 256bit VRAM, the 4060 laptop and desktop and 4060 Ti should have had 12GB 192bit and the 4050 laptop and desktop should have/had 8GB 128bit.

@Ali13445 Жыл бұрын

The gap in performance is not great even with higher settings compared to the 20 to 30 series upgrade. Hopefully amd releases a budget gpu that actually makes a difference or else people have to buy 2500+ laptops to actually get any value.

@niebuhr6197 Жыл бұрын

Their renaming of gpu tiers is the clear culprit. In reality we have here a 4050ti beating 3060... The true generational gains are seen comparing 4090 to 3080ti, or 4080 to 3070, the true counterparts.

@dedsec4252 8 ай бұрын

Have u tried switchable graphic to maximize performance in Power plan?

@runningtrilobite Жыл бұрын

Thanks! Many thanks! I got the very same conclusion which lead me to ASUS TUF Gaming F15 FX507ZV4 w. RTX 4060 (cca 1170 Euros).

@RadiatingRedstone Жыл бұрын

VRAM limitations are likely coming into play heavily with the 3060. 6GB just isn't enough in 2023, it was barely enough for 1080p back in early 2021 when the mobile 3060 came out. This is made worse by the x8 PCIE link on mobile vs x16 on desktop.

@PyxlkilleZ Жыл бұрын

Does this mean i can't have DirectX12,Lumen and Nanite turn on Fortnite if I buy 3060 laptops?

@anv0idr411 Жыл бұрын

True. I think 3060 is more optimal for 1080p with high preset without RTX or 1440p with DLSS. That excludes older/smaller games that can be played with any potato-pc using max settings anyway. Modern open world games tend to use more than 6gb VRAM with max setting even without RTX (ex; cyberpunk, Forza horizon 5, Hogwarts legacy, etc.).

@Samdevay Жыл бұрын

@g4md0r32 Жыл бұрын

A 4060 laptop for a good price would be a decent upgrade from my 1050 one. But the "for a good price" is a tall order...

@deepak1987 Жыл бұрын

For me it is an upgrade from 970m (1050Ti equivalent) to 4060

@andrewz4515 Жыл бұрын

You're better off getting a 3070 or 3070ti. The only 40 series cards that are worth it are the 4080 and 4090, and both of them go above 2k USD

@g4md0r32 Жыл бұрын

@@andrewz4515 you are not wrong about that I should have said a 4060 performance class of laptop

@andrewz4515 Жыл бұрын

@@g4md0r32 well if you are willing to compromise I've just ordered a 3060 Legion 5 for 900$ on Amazon