How Much VRAM for Gaming Laptops? Q&A with Hardware Unboxed!

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Timestamps
0:00 Welcome Back To Hardware Unboxed!
0:11 Video Sponsor - HyperX
0:56 Does VRAM matter as much for laptops as desktops?
5:15 Is 16GB VRAM enough for 4K gaming laptops?
10:37 Worth spending more $ for 12GB VRAM for 1440p gaming?
12:06 How will RTX 3060 laptops with 6GB VRAM go in future games?
15:41 RTX 4060 8GB VRAM laptop enough for games in 3-4 years?
18:50 Gaming laptops vs desktops - Jarrod & Steve Fight!
26:17 Which Laptop / Desktop for Computex Travel?
29:19 Will entry/midrange GPUs be affordable again?
37:22 Best GPU for 1440p gaming on laptop & desktop side?
43:28 GDDR6 vs GDDR6X VRAM, can faster memory make up for less capacity?
46:46 Is eGPU + laptop setup viable / close to desktop?
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@JarrodsTech 11 ай бұрын

Just download more VRAM

@aaz1992 11 ай бұрын

Based

@aaz1992 11 ай бұрын

Poggers

@mrbobgamingmemes9558 11 ай бұрын

2022 and before : how to download RAM ? 2023 : how to downlaod VRAM ?

@johndoh5182 11 ай бұрын

Here's my beef with KZfaqrs that keep bitching about VRAM. You aren't the one who has to sell the product. Adding more VRAM makes a product more expensive, and it's more than just adding the cost of the extra chips. You should CERTAINLY know that space in a laptop is at a premium. Adding more chips means more real estate is needed on a PCB, more runs are needed in the PCB, more power is needed, so better power support and I'm sure I'll miss issues. The ONE thing for sure is if KZfaqrs affect purchasing of less costly laptops regardless of sales of more expensive models, these companies will stop making less expensive laptops and KZfaqrs are directly responsible then for starting to price consumers out of that lower end market. I'll take this to both AMD and Nvidia who BOTH chose to make low end GPUs for desktop with 8GB VRAM. You don't think they understand their market? You don't think they understand what the performance is of their products? They're not making a 4060 or 7600 for 4K or even 2K gaming. If a person CHOOSES to TRY to mess with settings so much that they can use a low end GPU for 2K gaming, OK???? But that's not AMD's or Nvidia's concern. Their concern is they can sell a low end product into a low end market, and just because there will be a small handful of games where you have to adjust graphics settings down to play them with a GPU with 8GB VRAM, it doesn't make the product BAD. It only means there's a handful of games where you have to adjust graphics settings. If I can buy a BRAND NEW 7600 that released at $60 USD less than a 6600 did, that's a pretty good thing IMO and with the 7600 being about 30% faster than the 6600 which is a pretty typical gen on gen uplift at the lower tier, I'm happy. With AMD in particular I know at some point that 7600 will drop in price and it will be a FANTASTIC buy at something like $230 - $240, and it only has to drop about $30 - $40 USD to be in that range. I ALSO know that AMD will improve their drivers over time and I'm going to get another 5 - 10% performance out of that product. In fact this is much better than RDNA 2 was at launch for price/perf and I don't care about how AMD puts an older gen product on sale because NO COMPANY can price a new product like a discounted old product and continue to exist, or they can never discount products because that's a slow move to a product that has such a low price the company can't make it and make money. Try following the math on that one. Start at a product that's $300 USD. Put a 25% discount on it. Make a new gen, price that new product the same as the DISCOUNTED old gen it's replacing. It's now $225 USD as a new product. When it's about to be replaced with a new gen, put it on discount for 25% off. NOW release a new gen and price it at the discounted price of the old gen. How much is it now? It's about $170 USD. Yeah I think that's about the time you go bankrupt. It only took 2, maybe 3 generations to bankrupt yourself using a 25% discount on a product that's about to be replaced with a new gen and saying the new gen should be priced like a discounted product. I like most of your content, I wish you'd stay out of the bitching game that Steve from HDWU, Steve from GN and a handful of other people get into which is often sensationalism and nothing else. It's low brow, appealing to the people who like to bitch about whatever, and it puts me off because it's SO subjective that I can't say the information has any value to it. And beating up on these companies only ensures their products will cost more over time because they'll over design them so the main KZfaq channels have nothing to BITCH about.

@rachitbhatt40000 11 ай бұрын

Link please. 😂

@samserious1337 Жыл бұрын

Tim got a new hairstyle? Interesting!

@TheDarksideFNothing Жыл бұрын

What are you talking about? He looks exactly the same as always. I see nothing unusual or out of place here whatsoever.

@GewelReal Жыл бұрын

Tim got tanned a bit from all those new monitors lol

@samgoff5289 Жыл бұрын

He grew a few inches as well it seems

@l-....-l Жыл бұрын

He got a plastic surgery

@Samdevay 11 ай бұрын

WHat's best laptop around 2400-2500USD for working professional Screen Size 17.3 or 18 Need performance near-about 3070TI and processor: i7-i9 ~Data Science and AI graphics 3D modelling ~Computer modelling and networking ~Virtualization?

@Havanu81 11 ай бұрын

This is why I like what Framework is doing. You can go from 11th gen to 13th gen, and even reuse the 11th gen module for something else with a seperate housing they provide that connects IO to the MB. And swap GPU's well in their upcoming laptop. Way of the future!

@henrikg1388 11 ай бұрын

Really? If they do that, they have me as a customer.

@ScuffedIonian 11 ай бұрын

I'm also watching out for the Framework 16. There really is too much waste in the gaming industry

@amizan8653 11 ай бұрын

How are their cooling systems?

@sihamhamda47 11 ай бұрын

@@amizan8653 Framework team said that the Framework 16 fans are in the detachable module. So if it gets clogged with dust, you don't have to disassemble the whole laptop. Just take out the fan module and clean it Also the detachable fan modules could make you easier to clean the dust from heatsink fins without disassembling the laptop as well

@Samdevay 11 ай бұрын

@ConsciousSonder Жыл бұрын

For Lenovo as an example, the 4070 legion pro 5 came in under 1500, but the legion pro 7i with 13900hx and 4080 is running about 2600 pre tax after coupons in the US. That’s 1200 buck difference for that jump in performance, personally I’m okay with dialing some textures down to save that kind of money.

@GewelReal Жыл бұрын

neither looks like a good choice

@joelconolly5574 Жыл бұрын

@@GewelReal no better ideas then.

@sosukelele Жыл бұрын

@@GewelReal true, sometimes there's just no good way to go about it and you have to make do with the options you have

@GewelReal Жыл бұрын

@@sosukelele just don't game. You won't die if you won't lol

@MerryBlind Жыл бұрын

The price difference is not only for performance.

@cruizera2194 11 ай бұрын

More collaborations like this, please. Very enjoyable and informative.

@cameronbosch1213 Жыл бұрын

4:15 With Pascal and Turing, the full-powered versions of those GPUs were very close to the desktop models, which is why Nvidia removed the M designation from the laptop GPUs. But Ampere threw that out the window, and Nvidia only required laptop OEMs to add the GPU power limit because consumers complained (and it could have been lawsuit worthy because of misleading advertising). Nvidia should still add the M designation back to laptop GPUs...

@JarrodsTech Жыл бұрын

Indeed

@nileredsexperiment834 Жыл бұрын

Agreed. AMD’s doing it, they should also just do it instead.

@mikeb3172 11 ай бұрын

Manufacturers drop the letter because it makes it look inferior even on top model gpus

@GaroSlayer 11 ай бұрын

Yet still most laptop OEMs don't add TGP information... some do and do it very transparently but others couldn't be bothered to do it, the market should penalize them

@cameronbosch1213 11 ай бұрын

@@GaroSlayer Technically, that means they are violating Nvidia's OEM requirements. If Nvidia had any integrity left, they'd put pressure on them. But we all know what it's about... $$$$$

@theftking 11 ай бұрын

The 24GB of VRAM alone in the 4090 is basically makes it worthwhile. If they made a 4070 class card with like 16GB of VRAM it'd slay.

@user-gz4ve8mw9l 11 ай бұрын

I couldn't agree more.

@randomguy36j98 Ай бұрын

@John-PaulHunt-wy7lf 1 in a 10 devs*

@randomguy36j98 Ай бұрын

@John-PaulHunt-wy7lf ok

@randomguy36j98 Ай бұрын

@John-PaulHunt-wy7lf Ok 👍 no need to be so bitter though.

@randomguy36j98 Ай бұрын

@John-PaulHunt-wy7lf Ok, no need to be so bitter though.

@bairaqarpinker7460 Жыл бұрын

Wow, could you imagine, question in the title answered in the first, not click bait leading to the end of the video to keep attention span as usually youtubers does! Because its Jarrod and HU! I love q&as from this channel!

@ArmchairMagpie Жыл бұрын

I bought a gaming laptop for when a spend a few weeks regularly outside my home elsewhere. Usually, you know upfront that you are not going to have desktop performance, even if the GPU model number matches the one in your PC. It is also quite pricey compared to the desktop experience. But on the other hand, with modern laptops you are much more efficient, and it's amazing what you can pack into 15 inches and less. Some games, that don't rely on high FPS, can actually run for a 1.5 - 2 hrs easily on battery. Nowadays, I am also using it to do remote work. But overall, I think, buying a laptop as your only gaming computer is only really making sense if you are constantly on the move or don't have much space at home.

@schizofennec 11 ай бұрын

gaming on battery is no bueno

@ArmchairMagpie 11 ай бұрын

@@schizofennec I ran Stranded Alien Dawn with reduced FPS on my 1440p laptop for 1,5 hrs recently. You really have to tone down a lot of settings that are known to eat up battery. But overall, even if it is not ideal, it is in some cases possible. I reckon games like ONI could even run a lot longer.

@Samdevay 11 ай бұрын

@undefed3282 11 ай бұрын

@@Samdevay ROG Strix 18 inch is 2500 and packs a 4080 GPU and a i9 CPU, I’ll go for that one

@jonathanr4160 11 ай бұрын

What's unfortunate is some of these VRAM issues are just due to terribly optimized games like The Last of Us. It's a nice-looking game for sure, but no way should it be performing so crap on high end hardware. Take that in comparison to the Doom games from a company like ID software, who has had amazingly well optimized games ever since they existed in the early 90s. Doom Eternal on a GTX 1660TI laptop gets above 60 FPS at the highest settings at 1440P or a even a 1060 laptop that's good for over 60 FPS max settings at 1080p.

@cameronbosch1213 4 ай бұрын

It's not the only game. Hogwarts Legacy has textures popping in and out becuase there just isn't enough vRAM on 8 GB GPUs with ray-tracing enabled. Two other games, A Plague Tale Requiem and The Callisto Protocol, both have massive stuttering with those 8 GB of vRAM GPUs. It's such a PITA that Nvidia did this, and I wouldn't be too surprised if the 10 Gb RTX 3080 is next.

@dp27thelight9 Жыл бұрын

Being able to move a PC from bedroom to family room is another major benefit of laptop. If you get a quality laptop they make almost no noise if your good at tunning. Just need to be able to set the fan RPM lower then 3000.

@SMGJohn 11 ай бұрын

Steam Deck is better for that, not to mention Steam game streaming is really good and still, this setup would cost you less than most 4060 laptops and you could still afford RX 6800 or a 3060 Ti

@frostbite3820 10 ай бұрын

This! I don't have to be on the move all the time to benefit from laptop gaming, sometimes I just want to change what room I'm playing in. Also, you never know when you'll be invited to a LAN party. Gotta be ready to pick up and go for that! 🤣

@marwane8978 Жыл бұрын

haven't watched yet but I always expect from Jarrod an informative video 👌🏻✌🏻

@NOSfusion 11 ай бұрын

That latency bit it the end was gold. I'm actually considering a Rog Ally / XG Radeon setup to replace my desktop. Now I will have to do some thorough testing before making the switch. New video idea Jarrod??

@shanilsam 11 ай бұрын

Great points. Another I'd add is that is that it depends on how often you play games on day one. Many games released across the last two years or so have been half baked in terms of optimisation eg Hogwarts Legacy and Last of Us Part 1. Many titles now benefit from patches that reduce vram use AND boost the visual quality of textures across configurations (particularly medium.and low). All that to say, best not to gauge vram being the limitation based on day 1 performance.

@joelconolly5574 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for answering the questions. I know it's quite the head scratcher and a head turner and maybe irrelevant, but a good debate is always fun to listen to then simply saying it's not worth going for x because y is better.

@MMK86 11 ай бұрын

love seeing my two fave channels together...JarrodsTech and Hardware Unboxed 👍

@meanmachine6173 Жыл бұрын

Brought an Omen 16 with 6800H and a 150w 3070ti, for fricking 1380 dollars in sale, in India! Now feeling very happy after seeing this video

@peterkilian9100 Жыл бұрын

I’m still itching for that Msi stealth 16 studio review Jarrod!!!! Can’t wait 😂 really good video by the way

@marcm. 11 ай бұрын

21:17 gaming on a laptop without it being plugged in is unusual. But there are many occasions in which you can plug in but you're not home. I agree that this is mostly a niche issue, in so much as most people do not travel for most of their life or most of the year. Even there there are occasions, where you might benefit from a very small factor system and carry as part of your luggage the monitor. For the most part, people who live in situations like dorms, or go to coffee shops or libraries, are the only other people that I can think of truly would benefit from a laptop that's for gaming. But that's not a niche portion of the market, a lot of students need to have that portability. But the portability is not about gaming on battery, it's about being able to take your whole device in your backpack

@JoeMaranophotography Жыл бұрын

I bought my first gaming laptop in 2020 and at the time it was a fairly decent spec (i7 10750h and RTX 2070 Max-Q) and it was absolutely great for high refresh 1080p gaming even up until now. So that's about 3 years. Bare in mind when I bought it 30 series was only a few months away so if I had waited a bit longer then I could expect an extra year and a half out of it. I found I mainly used it docked ar a desk with keyboard, mouse and monitor and only really occasionally used it for gaming in my campervan. I decided this year to build a whole new desktop and its been incredible, sure im giving up the portability but the gaming experience has been incredible as I've gone up a resolution to 1440p fully ray traced HDR gaming but it's still nice to have the laptop as a backup and portable machine. In an ideal world a reasonable Dell XPS style system would make more sense due to decent battery life and work ergonomics whilst also being able to game a bit on the side

@smokegames1179 11 ай бұрын

having a desktop and a moderate gaming laptop is a way to go

@vnineb 11 ай бұрын

Great collab! Keep making great content!

@HolloVVpoint 11 ай бұрын

Laptops definitely have a place. Used have a gaming rig, however since I got kids now just don’t have the space for it anymore so I’m my case a laptop is perfect. The performance levels aren’t the same (technically), but honestly as someone who has had top of the line Laptops Alienware and Razer and top of the end gaming rigs, once you start playing the games you really can’t notice the difference. After the initial ten minutes you just get used to it. For example I’ve played Mass Effect, Witcher 3 and Skyrim consistently over the last decade on nearly every platform imaginable (PC laptop, PC Desktop, PS3, Xbox 360, PS5 and Series x). But Because the games are good, and performance is decent on every platform I haven’t noticed a difference. Currently have a Blade 16 4080, and PS5 and Steam Deck. Play whenever I get the chance on whatever is easiest at the time and outside of what spot in the house I’m playing it really makes no difference to me.

@YangBalanceYin 11 ай бұрын

Honestly, perfectly said. As long as a game isn't dipping below 60 fps (and honestly even 30 fps can be fine, especially with a smaller screen), the experience really isn't going to be crushed by that much. Most games look totally fine on lower settings, and certainly most modern day consoles/cheap(er) PCs are never going to bring you below even 60 fps with high/maxed out settings. Perhaps it's an age thing, I'm unsure. I grew up when games like FF7 were considered pioneers for graphical capabilities.

@smokegames1179 11 ай бұрын

i sold my steam deck for a 1660ti laptop no contest

@panic_diver 11 ай бұрын

And another big use case is among university students. I need my laptop to do my coursework in data science, I can run some CPU heavy analysis in class, take it back to my apartment, plug it in an external monitor, do any programming on a much wider UW screen and game for whatever little time I can squeeze out, then pop it out again in the morning and take it to class. I don't want to spend $2500 dollar on a desktop and another $1500 on a laptop that is powerful enough for course requirements, when I can just spent like $2300 on a laptop get a i9+4080 that can handle anything related to coursework or my gaming requirements for the next 2-3 years. Obviosuly later when I don't have to carry a computer on weekdays, I'll build a desktop but there are certainly many use cases for a powerful laptop and their buyers are not dumb because I cant lug my PC tower and UW monitor everyday to class.

@HolloVVpoint 11 ай бұрын

Yeah agree with everything you guys are saying, where at the point no where you don’t have to sacrifice performance for convenience, been gaming since I was a kid in the 90s and honestly there has never been a better time to be a gamer, just because their are so much good options. Also the kind of improvements we are seeing in form and factor you might not even need a desktop in 3/4 years time. @yangbalanceyin 😂 yep me to, remember people used to go on about how great the FMVs in the game was and then how blown away everyone was a year later when FFVIII released and it had that fight scene at the beginning of the game. Tbf it was some ground breaking stuff at the time 😂

@aqwandrew6330 11 ай бұрын

get mini itx pc, you can put full blown 4090 dektop on small case and it will blow any highend overpriced laptop

@RyanProsser0 Жыл бұрын

0:01 aha gotta love that intro. Nice collab boys

@JustJoshTech Жыл бұрын

Love the collab

@SaulsieBerries 6 ай бұрын

The use case I see (and experience personally) for gaming laptops are two fold: - Being able to game outside of my office. When I need to watch the kiddo but also want to play PC games. - Traveling. I spend a good amount of time abroad, and wind up wanting to kill some time in a hotel room. Being able to play games in that situation is invaluable. I am also in the fortunate position of being able to work from my own personal laptop, so I am able to bring my own personal machine around and use it in both a work and personal setting. If I couldn't do that, I'd have a desktop at home and instead opt for something like an ROG Ally or Legion Go for the road.

@unionofslavstanrepublics2317 11 ай бұрын

Very happy to see my question being answered first! Thanks!

@mapscorp Жыл бұрын

This Crossover videos are nice!

@toblobs 11 ай бұрын

After doing more research, happy to report you and HUB are perfectly right with the eGPU/TB problem, with users having really fickle experiences, so thanks for that warning

@clownavenger0 11 ай бұрын

If you are concerned about VRAM but on a budget get a laptop with the 6850 XT. 12GB VRAM and around the performance of a 3080 mobile. Alienware M17 is on sale for 1,250 USD right now. if u wanna increase from 16 GB RAM or the 500GB SSD each upgrade cost an extra 50 dollars. I would recommend the 1TB SSD and 16 GB RAM for 1,300 USD. There is also the desktop replacement from Origin with a 3080 TI 16GB and 11700K for 1,300 USD right now. Both are 17 inch laptops.

@davidalex2683 11 ай бұрын

Love the video

@shaeD96 11 ай бұрын

Great video as always but while I know games are becoming more demanding, to say 8GB of vram is entry level just isn't true, (maybe at 1440p but at 1080p its not) if anything it's mid, entry is like 4GB -6GB (a 3050/4050 - 3060/4060) while a 3060ti/4060ti to 3070ti/4070ti is midrange, 4080 and 4090 are high end likes it always been. It wasn't until this year where we saw AAA games needing more than 8GB to run smoothly and those were mainly do to bad ports/optimization which were adjusted in later fixes. for example there was no reason Last of Us remastered can run smoothly on a ps5 and not a 3060 ti or higher (which is equivalent in performance only difference is the Vram size but the PS5 uses its system ram as vram and is shared with it CPU/APU hence the higher limit which should translate to a PC with it own dedicated RAM and Vram for resources)

@andrewwhitman4289 11 ай бұрын

Two of my favorite computer content creators

@cameronbosch1213 Жыл бұрын

For me, the worst RTX 40 series GPU for laptops is the 4070. It's voltage limited, performs much worse than the 4080 & 4090, doesn't perform much better than the 3070 Ti, and has the same exact 8 GB of vRAM as the 4060. IMO, either go for the 4080 or save some money and go for the 4060.

@mertdundar7659 Жыл бұрын

Yes exactly. 4070 laptop is trash

@kanbei0412 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for your thoughts. The price difference of 4060 to 4070 is huge. But as i observed it only gives 10 to 20 fps compare to 4060. Is the ryzen 7 7745hx 4060 a good option? thank you

@mertdundar7659 11 ай бұрын

@@kanbei0412 yeah it should be viable for a time. 4xxx series is just 4060 or 4080/4090. 3070 ti is really good too and goes on sale very frequently. Check the laptop deals on the description

@thewinner4x873 11 ай бұрын

@@kanbei0412honestly, you should look for an rtx 3080 laptop, you get better performance than rtx 4070 with 16gb vram for a much cheaper price

@Samdevay 11 ай бұрын

@TabalugaDragon Жыл бұрын

20:57 lots of trains have wall outlets. And train stations. And airports. And cafes and so on. So it's really easy to game on the go.

@davidhasbrouck7948 Жыл бұрын

Last Gen I was hearing go with the 3070 instead of the 3080 because there isn't much performance difference. I needed the vram and Cuda cores for video editing so I went with it anyway and now I'm glad I did.

@christianmbabazi9722 Жыл бұрын

I got the legion 7 full AMD because I got a good deal on it, I was really trying to get the 3070 ti but the pricing was a bit much

@Bilalraza12 3 ай бұрын

@christianmbabazi9722 how's it still holding up?

@davidhasbrouck7948 3 ай бұрын

It's still holding up very well. It is a laptop purches by my work for remote work. I was able to finish some projects that the 1080ti in my desktop at work were struggling with precisely because I was running out of vram. I was using it for editing for about 2 years because our new edit suite project kept getting delayed until this year when I built a 4090 rig. So now I don't edit on it unless I am working remotely, but it still holds up for sure. And for gaming it definitely holds up fine.

@Herpderrrrp 11 ай бұрын

Love this collab!

@jcadence4761 11 ай бұрын

Two of my favourite channels in one! How good is that?!?

@JayzBeerz 11 ай бұрын

Diablo IV on 4K Ultra used all the 16GB VRAM on my 4080. That's crazy.

@sage4670 11 ай бұрын

How do you know it used it all? Software (e.g., msi afterburner) tell you vram *allocation* not usage. I'm confused as to how you could tell

@davidbetancourt4028 11 ай бұрын

Aw man, I love these crossovers

@Selimify 11 ай бұрын

The Video Thumbnail is Amazing. I am waiting for more youtubers to collab with you with your style of looks in your future videos 🤣😎😅👍🏻

@jj481012 Жыл бұрын

Im starting my architecture masters soon and I need a new laptop. I’ll be using CAD, rendering software, and creative tools like Adobe products. Which Do you think is better: the Lenovo Legion 7 pro 4090 or the Dell XPS 17 4080? The Dell comes out more expensive when specced with the same I9 and 32GB of RAM. Is the Dell build quality and portability worth the up charge? Then my follow up question: if I needed to go more budget friendly and more portable, which would be a better option, the Dell XPS 15 4070 or the Lenovo Legion Slim 7 4070?

@ganteng09 Жыл бұрын

So basically for now it's better to buy a console for gaming than to get a gaming laptop if you more focus on gaming than productivity

@QuantumConundrum Жыл бұрын

It's a weird year for those looking for both, imo the best way to know if you should be looking at a glaptop is if you can make it tax deductible (if you're just running a very small self employed thing)

@Ascended13 11 ай бұрын

Jarrod video with HU thumbnail, perfection.

@munem939 Жыл бұрын

Damn, you can tell that Jarrod was really sweating under the intense heat of those studio lights lmao

@JarrodsTech 11 ай бұрын

Nah I'm just naturally shiny

@Samdevay 11 ай бұрын

@brodylockwood14 10 ай бұрын

@@SamdevayMy man you can get a lot better than 3070ti for that price

@ishimarumasaki1998 Жыл бұрын

"we got some questions that you guys answered" classic jarrod

@hesamghalandary6113 9 ай бұрын

So Jarrod, i think buying 3060 for high settings is a good choice for next 4 to 5 years is 1440 or in worst case scenario in 1080p for over 40+ fream rates right?

@yellowflash511 11 ай бұрын

Exact reason I avoided 3060 last year and went for 6650m instead. Soon after my decision is already justified.

@Jakiyyyyy 11 ай бұрын

Lucky you. It's very rare to find laptops with AMD GPU here.

@gypalteksss Жыл бұрын

collab is 🔥very informative. was thinking to upgrade with the 4000 series from a 2060s, will def wait for the 5000 or radeon 8000. influenced my decision on rebuilding my rig to an itx beast. portability and power, best of both worlds. 😂

@sayankumarsadhu7646 11 ай бұрын

Jarrod sir can you suggest, which is best display for gaming laptop, IPS or Mini LED? Kindly reply .....

@Deezz1212 5 ай бұрын

great video

@jap848 9 ай бұрын

straight points

@bcalle1grg2t5 11 ай бұрын

This is the cross-over universe I was looking forward too!

@buda3d2007 Жыл бұрын

My houshold all use the one desktop, I just bought the Lenovo LOQ on special, not dissapointed, its decent, quiet and built well with the most current specs.

@JarrodsTech Жыл бұрын

Cool, I'm writing the review for the LOQ at the moment!

@kanbei0412 Жыл бұрын

Its like a lower tier Legion it has a decent price and almosg the same look as the legion pro. I cant wait for Jarrod to have a look at it

@kanbei0412 Жыл бұрын

@@JarrodsTech hi Jarrod. Have you got sample of Helios 16. Its has a great price to performance ratio. I9 13th gen 4070 with 2.5k reso.

@Samdevay 11 ай бұрын

@vaibhavraina26 11 ай бұрын

rx6800m might be a good choice if you want vram and performance from the laptop side?

@andrejohn9104 Жыл бұрын

Ayeee, Jarrod got a new studio and invited Tim over. How nice!

@thilakaswin2327 Жыл бұрын

I got rtx 3060 6gb vram lap and now only realised it's not enough to run the upcoming games in high settings. The last of us in medium settings take above 7gb vram and crashes sometime. I recommend equal or more vram than 8gb guys.

@pranavdupati9164 Жыл бұрын

What the hell are u saying lol tlou takes 6.3gb vram for me on 1080p high dlss quality and i can play on 60fps

@thilakaswin2327 Жыл бұрын

@@pranavdupati9164 am playing on 1440p and u saying 6.3 vram but it just make use of extra system memory. max usage of vram just hitting performance bad.

@niebuhr6197 Жыл бұрын

@@thilakaswin2327 3060 is a 1080 card

@Jakiyyyyy Жыл бұрын

3060 is doable at 1080p and some 1440p. But if you force 4K on it, it gonna die. It's not perfect, but still doable. I mean with DLSS of course.

@raminMTL Жыл бұрын

@@pranavdupati9164 WTF

@mukkah 2 ай бұрын

18:51 IMO is only only only buy a laptop if you have a high need for mobility. I take my laptop out of my house 2x a week for 12hr periods, so for my use case needs I could justify the premium for laptop portability. PC will always offer the best value for performance.

@TabalugaDragon Жыл бұрын

About a threadripper desktop vs a laptop they go up to 24 cores on Intel and 16 cores on AMD this year, so I'd say they are pretty good workstations at this point. As desktop Ryzen 5 7950x also goes up to 16 cores.

@mukkah 2 ай бұрын

Snagged a lappy with 3060 6gb Jan '23 for 1450$ CDN (roughly 1075$ USD). For my use case, was a perfect value price. Play a lot of older games, don't mind dropping some settings for newer ones, haven't found any game unplayable yet. Really depends on your price points but aye, fully agree, if you're paying premium price make SURE you're getting good value VRAM for the cost. Would hate overpaying and having lacking performance (and it's so easy to get gouged on laptops). ~a random canadian subscriber

@logicalanomaly3516 11 ай бұрын

I’m surprised the 6800m/6850m weren’t brought up here. Gaming performance is in between the 3070 and 3080 laptop gpu with 12gb of vram.

@KaripapRebus 10 ай бұрын

7:05 Framework laptop: let me introduce myself

@sarifpanda06 11 ай бұрын

Sir pls reply🙏🏻 which should I buy hp victus Intel i5 12th gen(12450h) gtx1650 or ryzen 5 5600h rtx3050 11th gen? Basically I do office work and play games AAA games like GTA5? Which is better for long term usage more than 5 years (Intel or ryzen)?😨

@teddym2808 11 ай бұрын

Question re laptop vs dekstop: Main difference is you can more easily transport laptops. Desktop will always have better performance with the similarly named parts. BUT, building a 4090 desktop with 4TB of SSD, buying a 4K monitor, 64Gb DDR5 ram, and a 13900K will cost as much or more than a GT77 which has it all in one. You'll get 35% better average FPS in games, some will be more. So let's look at it this way. It will still cost near as much to build a desktop 4080 which will have similar gaming performance to a good 4090 laptop. The desktop will likely be quieter but they can be horrendously noisy under load too. It will also likely make the GT77 look tiny. So that's the thing that might matter. I love having a laptop on my overbed table in my room. Then I can take 10 steps and move the laptop to my studio room when I want to make music. Even though I COULD set up one of those overbed tables with desktop stands in my room, it would be a pain to move the desktop to the studio room, there is no room to roll the table and do it that way. Also think of it this way: Just last year you could buy a 3090 ti desktop and 12900K etc and pay the same price or more than a GT77 today. Remember I am including TWO 2tb SSD and 64GB DDR5. Right now that laptop is 7.1K in Australia, and includes Win 11 Pro. 13980HX which thrashes a 12900K also. I priced desktops last year with 3080ti, 64Gb ram, 4TB SSD and they were 6 grand in Australia, without a screen or proper gaming mouse and KB combo. About 7K all up. for a 3080 ti. Custom build, top cooling, etc. The GT77 with 4090 will outperform that in CPU and be neck and neck with all gaming FPS, not to mention DLSS3. It will THRASH a 3080 from last year though. And it's portable. If it's too bulky, get the GE78HX which is just as fast in every way. Just an IPS 300 nit 1600P screen instead of 4K mini LED screen. Still 2x2TB SSD and 32GB ram standard. If you need G-Sync and can live without F key lighting or any windows hello functionality, Asus is your answer in 2023. The only time you really lose with a laptop, the way I see it, is when you want a desktop 4090, which you can't get. That's basically it. But desktop processors are hitting 100c also with good cooling, are loud, and the main advantage is the GPU in 2023. Do you really think desktop GPU are quiet under 100% load? I promise they are not. And you know what? I cap many games at 60 FPS and my laptop therefore doesn't strain either GPU or CPU and it becomes silent. My legion 7i is also very portable, which is why I will always keep it even when I get my 4090 replacement within the next couple weeks (just deciding which laptop). Facts. Do you really think you can't play ANYTHING on a laptop 4090? Especially those using 1600P screens. You won't even need DLSS in any current game at that resolution with a laptop 4090. At 4K many 2 year old games will run native 60+, and modern games ultra settings/4K/DLSS quality are possible. You can play anything and have it look gorgeous. 22000 TimeSpy on GT77 should tell you. Heck, my laptop is 10,500 time spy (legion 3070 2021) and I can play anything at high settings/60 FPS if I use DLSS quality or balanced at the lowest (1600P). You only need a desktop if you want minimum 60 FPS at every game at 4K at native. That's it. If you can live with DLSS on some games, or 1440P or 1600OP native (depending on the laptop you buy aspect ratio), you can play anything for years to come without DLSS at all. Why don't we just say it how it is. the main difference is you can get to that 99th percentile of extreme performance with a desktop. The question is, do you care. I don't. Desktops are always better for audio professionals though, due to usually having much lower DPC latency. That's a different matter entirely.......

@sylviabustillos3414 Жыл бұрын

Question I should from upgrade or not asus rog strix g15 advantage edition or not this year

@Fender178 10 ай бұрын

About the eGPU situation I can say yes it would be viable solution if you are using either ASUS' proprietary XG1 mobile port which is based of off Oculink on their modern gaming laptops based on certain models or Oculink by it self because the performance of Oculink by itself is unmatched because there is no bandwidth bottlenecks which means if you had an Oculink eGPU dock /w desktop 4080 or 4090 you can get very close to the performance of those GPUs if you had them plugged into an actual desktop PC. If you are using USB4 or Thunderbolt then no it wouldn't be very viable because of the bandwidth bottlenecks that Thunderbolt and USB4 has. Also mind you that ASUS' eGPU solutions use only Laptop GPUs. Oculink is the same basic concept as Thunderbolt 4 and USB 4 that it taps into the PCI-E lanes however its not very user friendly because you cannot hot swap oculink devices like you can Thunderbolt however through the Oculink cable you have PCI-E Gen 4 x4 (4 lanes of PCI-E Gen4) which is indeed faster than what Thunderbolt and USB4 can offer. At the end of the Day boils down to what interface you are using for your eGPU solution on top what Desktop GPUs you are using.

@Rightygamer 11 ай бұрын

I think the RX6850M XT is worth a look at as well. 12GB VRAM and a lot of deals popping up that make the 6850 equipped laptops similar in price to 3070 models. Not as sure about the 6700M with 10gb but I'm sure it'd be a better option than a 3060 6gb. Edit: On second thought, the 6700M would be a way better choice than the 3060 and to an extent, even a 3070 (given price disparity). Similar to the point you talked about in the video with respect to the 3070 vs 6800, the added VRAM reduces any headaches you'd have with textures and other graphical settings significantly.

@JarrodsTech 11 ай бұрын

Yeah sometimes I forget about that one because it's in like 2 laptops, though at a couple of years old now and without DLSS/frame generation you could argue it's a compromise in order to get the VRAM.

@henrikg1388 11 ай бұрын

@@JarrodsTech He was comparing with 30-series nVidia so no Frame generation anyway. FSR is less common than DLSS but in those games it's at least comparable to DLSS with no FG.

@Samdevay 11 ай бұрын

@@Rightygamer thanks I will check. I was checking if I can get 4080 below 2400 but not finding

@alexmeek610 11 ай бұрын

@@Rightygamermight be best taking a look at used options to got a similarly specd m16 for 800

@jakob7116 9 ай бұрын

20:51 Unlike planes, trains quite often have power outlets which you can use so you don't have to run on battery power on trains.

@xereskmd8931 Жыл бұрын

watching this with my powerful rtx 3050 laptop with 4gb vram

@otrOptions 11 ай бұрын

I'm in the US and have been patient but I'm thinking of jumping on the Asus Scar 17 with 4090/7945HX or should I keep waiting and hope Lenovo release the 4090/7945HX here?

@HappyHubris Жыл бұрын

So far I'm doing fine with a 6GB 3060 on my laptop @ 1440p. People tend to overstate VRAM needs by benchmarking at ultra and playing the absolute worst ports before they're patched.

@tejaswin5404 11 ай бұрын

I can't play hogwarts legacy on just High settings on my Dell rtx 3060 laptop without micro stuttering & Lagging on 1080p fullHd while I can comfortably play it on High settings on my desktop rtx3060 12gb one on 1080p full HD, same with resident evil,Last of us aswell, even also on Apex legends I can't play it in 1080p ultra settings on my rtx 3060 laptop because of its limited 6gb vram while I can play it on ultra settings comfortably on my rtx 3060 desktop, in short you are wrong ma%te,

@frostgodx 11 ай бұрын

False. Your not doing fine unless your playing old or garbage games. 6gb is hardly usable for 1080

@JohnBog 11 ай бұрын

@@tejaswin5404 has it ever occured to you that hogwarts legacy is a poorly optimized video game on PC and that 6gb of vram is completely sufficient to game with on 90% of titles at 1440p, let alone 1080p? The desktop 3060 has 12gb VRAM not because nVidia s generous, but because they made some sort of mistake - hence why the 3070 has 8gb VRAM and not 16....

@tejaswin5404 11 ай бұрын

@@JohnBog I also talked about 3 other games other than hogwarts legacy in my comment, why haven't you mentioned about them in your pathetic response comment? NGreedia's cu%ck🥴

@KrishnaNAcharya 11 ай бұрын

@@JohnBog Doom eternal is unoptimised? Forza horizon 5? RE Village? RE4 remastered? They all use more than 8 GB of VRAM at 1080p.

@TheCgOrion 11 ай бұрын

37 Minutes in, and I just now realized it's not a HUB video 😂. I'm primarily a desktop gamer, but I travel across country (Owner operator of a semi), so I have a definite use case for a gaming laptop, and I can say that both are better than each other, depending on your use case. I love my really powerful gaming PC, but my G15 AE is fantastic on the road. Are you guys going to have a video on his desktop build?

@Connie_Lingus 11 ай бұрын

I have a G15 5520 with the 3050 4GB VRAM and have upgraded the RAM to 32GB DDR5 and SSD to 512 and I run most modern games relatively well. I do need to use DLSS on all of these games though. Sometimes it makes me want to upgrade to at least a 3070 ti laptop just to have a higher overhead. It would’ve been better to have a 1660 ti in this laptop to max natively on 1080p.

@RohanMerea 11 ай бұрын

I Love my 1660ti Laptop - but it start to get old - next Upgrade will be 3070ti or Something Like this .. Just wait for the next price drop or refurbed incoming

@robertwilliam5527 11 ай бұрын

Remember, VRAM at this point of time is more important than frame generation. VRAM is utilized by every single game exists and will be released, frame generation is utilized by very few certain games. Why would I need more fps when I don't have textures? imo I would definitely go for 6900XT over 4070

@ikuma8291 10 ай бұрын

So if my budget is around laptops with entry level gpu, is it even worth buying one with a rtx 4050/4060? if the vram is not enough I instead go for a model with integrated gpu (ryzen 780M) and go for 32gb system memory instead? with 32gb ram it should be enough to share with gpu? looking at the lenovo slim 14" with amd ryzen r7 7840hs, 35gb ram, 1tb ssd

@Thewickedjon 11 ай бұрын

@24:46, I am personally thinking about moving away from d4skop pc's and INTO laptops.. i know its usually the other way around. I've been building pc's for a long time, currenlty have a r9 5900hx + rtx 3080 + 64gb ram desktop pc, that I rarely use. For what I find myself doing most of the time (playing dota, or wathcing youtube) docked laptop works just fine. And i have the added benefit I can pick it up and take it w/ me wherever I go. But yeah on heavy games, the desktop will perform way better.

@jonahparpart3690 3 ай бұрын

As a traveling Field Engineering who enjoys gaming, i have a gaming laptop (10750h and 2070maxq), a 24 inch laptop and a mouse and keyboard, when im in my temp apartment I have my setup, and when i fly (about once a month) i can just use the laptop itself while im away from my setup.

@mistuhjangles1384 8 ай бұрын

i have a different perspective in regards to the laptop vs pc debate -- i just got the lenovo legion pro 7i gen 8 4080. i did this cause the last upgrade i had was when i built my pc, its a ryzen 5 3600 and rx 5700 so the laptop is a massive jump up in production and gaming capabilities. my idea is that i'll use this laptop for 3-4 years and then build another pc. if the generational gains are exponential enough, why not switch back and forth? i like being able to work and game while sitting in the same room with my family and i can't do that with a pc. i also like being able to go anywhere, anytime and i can't do that without a laptop.

@boy638 11 ай бұрын

You mentioned your laptop "kinda stopped working". What laptop was it and what went wrong with it?

@Dreyden12274 11 ай бұрын

guys I need some help here. I've got the strix g18 laptop that has hdmi 2.1. how the heck do I hook up a second 1440p monitor that only has hdmi 2.0 and still get my 144hz?? I tried a display port 1.4 to hdmi 2.1 dongle with a 4k 120hz hdmi 2.1 cable that should be able to supply the 144hz to the monitor but it's not working.. anyone have any suggestions??

@jimmyjiang3413 11 ай бұрын

I think ideally both laptop and desktops shall have identical GPU chips with identical VRAM configuration of each other, and there is still gap between 96MB L2 and VRAM. Thus, I believe RTX 60 shall have L3 cache on GPU, closing the gap, reduces VRAM cache load

@Saito9IV Жыл бұрын

As one who has lived and breathed gaming laptops forever. I finally built a desktop since I was the always kept laptop docked kind of person and only moved laptop around the house. Now with my desktop I have converted my laptop to a small 14 inch used Thinkpad laptop and have found that remoting into my desktop with steam link or Windows RDP to game and edit video. Now I can have the power of the desktop anywhere in the house with a laptop that can easily give 2 days of power in remote mode since it is precessing basically nothing. It's completely silent and cool. Honestly been much better for me

@sreeravi25 7 ай бұрын

How is the latency when connecting like that while gaming?

@Saito9IV 7 ай бұрын

@@sreeravi25 I only play story games and games that aren't very latency sensitive like that. It's not bad but it can mess you up in certain senarios

@_TrueDesire_ Жыл бұрын

0:20 New HyperX cloud? New Flight in the works too? 😮 To save on vram just turn textures to high or very high compared to ultra and turn off msaa. My laptop with 3070Ti so far has zero issues running at 1080p. Ofc games demand more at 1440p, which is why my next laptop will have a good quality 1080p panel rather than the 1440p I have today. It's very clever to offer 1440p panels, consumers need more and more power to run the games at 1440p and such they will upgrade more often... I've got a 23,5" 1080p240 monitor at home as well as my 65" Oled TV, it's only when I'm away from home I use my built in 17" 1440p240 display.

@decoymanic3678 11 ай бұрын

both King of Review at same Desk , this video should go up to 1mil view

@edwardtan4631 Жыл бұрын

I think vram should not have been an issue, its how the game was optimized. 10 or 15 years ago programmer was more creative with how the program (optimized the games) most especially game developers back in the days of extremely limited RAM. Game developers and programers are getting lazy opting out to approach the problem with brute force (high vram / ram) rather than usung creative programming.

@gerardotejada2531 11 ай бұрын

Because the 16gb of Ram in modern consoles make their jobs easier. The less work less cost, the less cost the more profit. Also forces a huge numbe of people to buy more GPUs or new Laptops. Everybody wins... except the consumer..

@tringuyen7519 11 ай бұрын

@@gerardotejada2531 Gamers want more textures & more sharpness. But you think it doesn’t take more memory. Pull your head out of your a**.

@rishipraghunathan8088 11 ай бұрын

Hey I mainly play RDR2,GTA V, F1 22,Warzone 2.0 Could u guys recommend a good GPU for these games And im planning to buy laptop so recommend the gpu which is available in laptops

@RAM_845 Жыл бұрын

Nice Jarrod's tech the Laptop guru, Optimum Tech the SFF Guru

@JarrodsTech 11 ай бұрын

Australian tech avengers assemble

@RAM_845 11 ай бұрын

@@JarrodsTech haha yup And Jeff Bezoz will be Thanos lol

@Samdevay 11 ай бұрын

WHat's best laptop around 2300-2500USD for working professional Screen Size 17.3 or 18 Need performance near-about 3070TI and processor: i7-i9 ~Data Science and AI graphics 3D modelling ~Computer modelling and networking ~Virtualization

@bfish9700 Жыл бұрын

I was so confused about what channel I clicked on for a minute 🤣

@JarrodsTech Жыл бұрын

Welcome back to Gamers Nexus

@TrentCrimm 11 ай бұрын

Good thing the new 7800M XT comes with 16 GB VRAM. Unfortunately I just got a 4070 desktop because of low VRAM in the laptop space.

@stevesutton772 Жыл бұрын

So what magic are they putting into the Xbox series X?

@DeusRegum Ай бұрын

Is the G14 with the 3060 and Ryzen 9 be able to play FFXIV or WOW at max settings?

@ericguizzetti 11 ай бұрын

I just pulled the trigger on ASUS 2023 ProArt StudioBook 16 OLED Laptop, 16” 3.2K OLED Touch Display, Intel Core i9-13980HX CPU, Nvidia Geforce RTX 4070 GPU. I am slightly nervous about the GPU as I could have purchased it cheaper with an RTX4060. I don't game but work in Architecture and 3D Laser Scanning. I am not even sure the GPU makes that much of a difference. I am wondering If I should have saved $400 on the 4060 or If I should be purchasing a computer with the 4080 card.

@DrunkenGamer07 11 ай бұрын

What about rx6800m? It's got 12 GB v ram and most certainly performs better than 4060 native. But it's 2021 release.... Will it be good enough 3 years down the line?

@JJ-is4wm 11 ай бұрын

ASUS ROG Strix G17 (2022) (G713RW-KH129) - can anyone help me with this one? is it good? I cant find any informations about the 3070ti in it..

@ikoartiaga5971 11 ай бұрын

I have a question can rtx 4050 6gb ram are enough for 3d animation/blender or should I go for rtx 4060 8gb ram... Both in Ryzen 7 7735s with DDR5 ram...