RTX 4070 TI SUPER Performance is Disappointing

RTX 4070 TI SUPER Performance is Disappointing - How Nvidia Fooled Everyone

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6 ай бұрын

Explore the gaming world with me as we dive into the highly anticipated Nvidia RTX 4070 Ti Super, part of the refreshed lineup. Many had high hopes for this GPU, expecting it to be the budget-friendly RTX 4080. In this video, we'll dissect the real-world results now that reviews are out and the card is available in stores. Did it live up to the expectations? Join me as we discuss the specs, performance, and whether the RTX 4070 Ti Super is worth the investment. From its comparison with the RTX 4070 Ti to its unexpected competition with the RX 7900XT, we'll cover it all. Plus, stay tuned for insights into market reactions and whether this GPU is making waves in sales. If you're on the lookout for a high-end gaming GPU, this video has got you covered. Subscribe to stay updated on the latest in the GPU world and join the conversation in the comments below. Let's delve into the RTX 4070 Ti Super and its impact on the gaming landscape! 🎮✨
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@b-ranthatway8066 6 ай бұрын

**Slaps the top of my EVGA 1070 FTW** "Hang in there babe, one more year and you can finally be at peace." 😂

@user-ot3zm2rz2x 6 ай бұрын

Pascalchads be like: I mean what can you do with a 4070TS that you can't do with a 1070? Raytrace John Wicks balls in Cybercuck? I aint payin $800 to see that bro.

@Liq38 6 ай бұрын

My daughter still using her Gigabyte 1070 OC just a bit longer. She was going to get my trusty 3070FE but not with the disappointment that's been Super cards. RTX 5 here we come!

@AnonymousUser-ww6ns 6 ай бұрын

In a Summary, RTX 4070TISuper= RTX 4070TI 16GB

@AnonymousUser-ww6ns 6 ай бұрын

Therefore wait until it gets $150 discount at the minimum.

@AnonymousUser-ww6ns 6 ай бұрын

Otherwise we send the message and get the AMD 7900XT

@DragonOfTheMortalKombat 6 ай бұрын

True. What a SUPER disappointment?

@jaykeem0 6 ай бұрын

@@AnonymousUser-ww6ns$150 discount? Hells gonna freeze over before that happens

@NoirBlack-nf4gb 6 ай бұрын

Its cheaper

@conner_productions 6 ай бұрын

I don't get why everyone is so pressed about it. Yall really expected it to be a 4080 for $400 lesss? Most games you're seeing 5-10% increase. Plus, gaming isn't everything. Creative applications are gonna see a really nice boost from the extra vram. It's better than the 4070ti and it didn't go up in price, I can't complain about that.

@brianmiller1574 Ай бұрын

Totally agree

@Clint_the_Audio-Photo_Guy 5 ай бұрын

Will the 50 series have this stupid power connector though? Otherwise, I'll be waiting on AMD to update their cards. I'll take 3 x 8 pin connectors any day over a faulty single connector that melts or if it wiggles slightly, your game crashes.

@claysmurthwaite2386 6 ай бұрын

Im really wondering how the msi trio, strix and aorous master will overclock. To me it seems like having the same tdp as the 4070ti will definitely hinder 10% more cuda/tensor/ray tracing cores. Strange that the tester cards sent out were the non OC cards..🤔

@reiudfgq3vrh34ur 6 ай бұрын

heard from people they are using the bottom of the barrel 103 dies and the best quality dies for the 4080 and 80 super which is why the performance is not only 10% behind the 4080. Also the downgrade in cache and tdp hurts gimps the card. They are also using the best 104 dies for the 70ti which is why its so close

@CaptainScorpio24 6 ай бұрын

my i7 7700 best die used to match wd worst 10th gen intel i3 10100 die performance . i sold it when 12th gen non k i7 chip launched in 2022 jan

@SuperConker 6 ай бұрын

Yes, the "4070 ti Super" is indeed using "broken" AD103 chips that didn't quite make the cut (to become 4080). nVidia have been putting aside these lesser chips for over a year now, and finally found a good use for them.

@anitaremenarova6662 5 ай бұрын

You have no clue what you're talking about, it's only lacking 10% behind the 4080 which is fine given the much cheaper cost. Overclocked you can easily close that gap.

@Frozoken 5 ай бұрын

@@anitaremenarova6662it's like 15% behind

@TheBonneter Ай бұрын

I was looking at building my first PC with the 4070 ti super/7600x. I have an Rx580 4 GB right now... Is this card really that much of a disappointment?

@HEAD123456 6 ай бұрын

Well on paper it should be way faster: 10% more cuda cores 10% more TMUs 20% more Rops 256bit and 33% more bandwidth 4gb more Vram helps in 4k. It should be easily 15% and maybe little more faster than 4070ti in 4k. But nvidia did not increase L2 cache and power limit and that pretty much cripled this card. Also they using worst rejected crap cores from 4080 and that means big leakage. I saw in some comparing videos that 4070ti super often have higher power consuption than 4080 when both runs at same clock. Pretty mindblowing.

@Chrissy717 6 ай бұрын

That last part is just funny to me. What the hell happened, lol

@AnonymousUser-ww6ns 5 ай бұрын

Yep on paper it is faster but in reality it performs exactly the same as the RTX 4070TI but with 16GB of VRAM.

@anitaremenarova6662 5 ай бұрын

It sounds like none of you newbies heard about overclocking. Also duh, low end models will always be worse with power efficiency and this card has no FE which made the cheap Ventus they provided as reference look terrible in comparison.

@IgorBozoki1989 5 ай бұрын

@@Chrissy717L2 cache happened. It seems that L2 cache determine the most about GPU performance in Nvidia 4000 series. L2 cache is 48mb like regular 4070 ti. 4080 have 64mb L2 cache.

@tuo1237 2 ай бұрын

@@anitaremenarova6662it’s the tensor cores that are the selling point. I see all of these comments talking nonsense. The price for a gpu with the amount of tensor cores currently in the 4070 ti super makes it a great option for a personal ai modeling workstation. Regardless, I will wait for a price drop. If vram is your main concern, buy some computing power from Amazon or the such. Ai tools are powerful, investing into a private ai development station could be immensely beneficial. Of course, if your main concern is the quality of the possible graphics, there may be better GPus currently available.

@Obie327 6 ай бұрын

Thanks Dannyz for the heads up. "Meh", Seems to be the thoughts on the Ti Super. Looks good on paper? I'm also wondering about that L2 cache reduction and also the limited power they gave it as being the Kryptonite to its Superman. Every little bump up in performance is better than none? I guess time will tell...

@mikebruzzone9570 6 ай бұрын

Cache trashing individual e sport should be okay with the smaller L2? mb

@XMG3 6 ай бұрын

i got fooled for sure thinking the move to AD103 would certainly make this closer to 4080, instead we get 3-5% increase from 4070 ti...

@John-qh3sl 6 ай бұрын

OC 4070ti Super, and you would get closer to stock 4080.

@mannydcbianco 6 ай бұрын

@@John-qh3sl Unfortunately the guys at Guru3D only saw a 6% average gain from overclocking the 4070 Ti Super. While 6% is 6% and 6% is better than 0% it is still faaar behind the 4080.

@jaykeem0 6 ай бұрын

Its more like 8-10% on the tuf oc, which is still little low

@XMG3 6 ай бұрын

@@John-qh3sl are you sure ? overclock usually can't make up for 15% difference. Plus RTX 4000 series are known to have little headroom for OC, undervolt maybe, but not OC

@user78405 6 ай бұрын

@@mannydcbianco and 10fps gains that put right at 4080 and not bad when i oc , the ad103 had more headroom in clocks when power is not max out to 340w when using 300w

@BrandensOutdoorChannel 3 ай бұрын

I upgraded to this card from an original RTX 2070 from 2018. Overpriced? Yes. Worth it? Yes I increased FPS by 120% in all games at 1440P Ultra. It allowed me to keep using my 9900k system with 32gb ram. My last card lasted 6 years. I really needed to double my vram. New games were hitting 8gb vram limits. 12gb isn't going to last the next 4 years. I feel better with 16gb.

@harveybirdmannequin 6 ай бұрын

I've been wondering about the purpose of L2 cache for GPUs. The most noticeable difference I see from RTX 3000 to 4000 is that 4000 has a lot more L2 cache. However, when comparing benchmarks between 3000 and 4000 the performance in terms of 1% lows is about the same. The VCache for CPUs helps out the 1% lows that doesn't seem to be the case for GPUs. I suspect that more L2 cache only helps out with power efficiency.

@Frozoken 5 ай бұрын

Lol idk what to tell you but it helps massively. Also you know that so called driver overhead advantage amd had? Yeah it's gone with the 40 series and it was a thinf specifically because of the extra cache on amd allowing for much better throughput at low core utilisation such as with esporys games. The 40 series has 0 ipc uplift compared to the 30 series at a core level. It's literally all the cache and clocks giving something like a 4070 with the same corres as a 3070, significantly more performance.

@burnbarrelnetwork4013 6 ай бұрын

I was planning on picking up the 4070ti super until it released. Like many, I will wait. I may pickup the 4080 super like others if they are available.

@26DeislerFCB 6 ай бұрын

the difference between 4080 and 4080 super will be 0,1 %

@burnbarrelnetwork4013 6 ай бұрын

@@26DeislerFCB yea and $200.

@Amp_Edition 6 ай бұрын

Nothing wrong with the 4070ti super, people hyped themselves and are now disappointed 😂 it was never going to be a 4080 replacement! It's the cheapest nvidia card with 16gb of vram. You will never notice the difference between a 4080 and 4070ti super @1440p especially with DLSS

@burnbarrelnetwork4013 6 ай бұрын

@@Amp_Edition never said there was anything wrong with it. Just be getting the 4080 super now instead if it’s available and if it’s price to performance makes sense. Laughing crying emoji face to make me feel clever.

@Amp_Edition 6 ай бұрын

@burnbarrelnetwork4013 I was just sharing my thoughts and trying to save you 200$ minimum, I wasn't trying to shame you or make you feel dumb, the emoji was me laughing at people who believed the hype of the 4070ti super was supposed to perform more like a 4080 so they didn't have to pay the premium. It's just nvidia being the scam artist that they are. Make the card everyone wants close to the price to the one before it so they say...screw it, its only 200 more or whatever the amount may be. Just like the 4080 and 4090, they are trying to upsale people. Clearly they could have made the 4080 200$ cheaper this whole time! You'll never notice the difference between the 4070ti super and the 4080 unless you watch a fps counter, with an overclock and dlss you really won't notice! But hey its your cash. Don't be so sensitive, I don't use emoji to be clever, I can use facts and data for that.

@madbeef. 6 ай бұрын

My 3070 ti fe recently bit the dust. Was going to wait for this. Thought better of it and got another used 3070 ti fe. I'm glad.

@club4ghz 6 ай бұрын

My 3070 Ti went for $510 on ebay when 4080's were launching and i got one. Think you could probably have 4080 now instead of buying 2 3070Ti's.

@madbeef. 6 ай бұрын

@@club4ghz the 3070 did its duty for long enough and picked this 2nd one up cheap. I'm only doing 1440p. Works great for me. Just saying I'm glad I didn't fork out for this overpriced, underwhelming card. I'll stick where I am until the whole pc needs a refresh.

@anitaremenarova6662 5 ай бұрын

Extremely stupid decision but enjoy ig.

@bittripper3530 5 ай бұрын

Trouble with waiting for the 5000 series is the same thing will happen as happened to the 4090, they will be in short supply, over priced or unobtainable for a long time.

@wulfone5961 6 ай бұрын

The issue is most of the games being released that would need a card like this are total garbage. There really isn't a need to upgrade for a lot of people. Games are usually what encourage people to upgrade. No one drops $500-$1000+ on a GPU for bragging rights unless they are crazy. Games drive the need for upgrades. The games are total trash lately. Very few of them are worth spending that kind of money on. I upgraded from a 1070 Ti in 2019 to 2070 Super, and I am still using it. I would like to upgrade but so far, I haven't had a reason to upgrade. My monitor is still 1080p and all the games I play work fine with the 2070 Super. I have had it for a little more than 4 years now. I have yet to see a game that makes me want to upgrade to a new GPU. The last game I upgraded my PC for was RDR2 and that was a new GPU in 2019 (2070 Super) and a new motherboard and CPU (AMD) in 2020.

@michaelthompson9798 5 ай бұрын

I got my rtx4070 (non super) near launch as an “open box” model for $490USD plus taxes and I’m happy with its gaming performance in my HTPC setup and 4K OLED for chilling on the lounge gaming session for high refresh rate 1080p1440p and ~60+fps for single player titles with DLSS quality settings. It’s been a great experience and fair price and it’s gotten good use and serves it purpose well.

@geraldsalas3213 5 ай бұрын

is the 4070ti super asus tuf non oc variant good buy if gigabyte gaming OC variant has the same price? asus tuf oc variant is $141 usd more.

@AnonymousUser-ww6ns 5 ай бұрын

I would get the 7900XT over the RTX 4070TI super as it’s cheaper and performs faster. However if you turely need the Nivdia features for AI or for VR then I would go for the ASUS TUF model as Gigabyte GPUs crack and they will 100% refuse your RMA. ASUS GPUS form what I know don’t crack but if they do ASUS will accept the RMA.

@AnonymousUser-ww6ns 5 ай бұрын

Also save your money and get the regular model The OC model doesn’t perform much faster

@anitaremenarova6662 5 ай бұрын

They can both be overclocked manually, that is only what frequency you're getting out of the box. Buy Gigabyte gaming OC, has the highest overclocking potential out of the 3.

@anitaremenarova6662 5 ай бұрын

@@AnonymousUser-ww6ns What terrible advice, you can overclock the 4070tiS to surpass the 7900XT and it can actually run RT without shitting itself.

@geraldsalas3213 5 ай бұрын

@@AnonymousUser-ww6ns thank you so much, yeah i might get the tuf version, saw some reviews that gigabyte has load fans and tuf has better thermals.

@sjuric2435 6 ай бұрын

What hype GPU is what it was meant to be! Its meant to replace RTX 4070ti not vanilla RTX 4080, that replace will be in the form of RTX 4080 Super which will bring even less progress but better price.

@cosmic_gate476 6 ай бұрын

It would look better if the 4070Ti wasn't already selling at 730

@anitaremenarova6662 5 ай бұрын

@@cosmic_gate476 Well yeah, that whole thing is the worst value 40 series card you could waste your money on.

@reaxxion 6 ай бұрын

I’m debating weather I should get the 4070 super or ti super…. I currently have the 3070 ti

@DragonOfTheMortalKombat 6 ай бұрын

Both are pretty major upgrade. 4070 SUPER is better value. Don't bother with the Ti Super just get the 7900xt instead.

@wakazimaru 6 ай бұрын

Wait for 50 series instead. 40 series are meant for 10/20 users who still haven't upgraded yet so far.

@douglasmurphy3266 6 ай бұрын

I think it needs an OC VBIOS to go around the power limitations. I'd like to see some modders results with this card before writing its obituary, but it really almost defys logic how poorly it performed out of the box. It was right there on the spec sheet but noone saw it coming, the power draw being the issue. And as quick as we are to assume nvidia kneecapped it on purpose, I think the reason they did this was for their board partners to retain the same designs on their cards. They would have more EVGA situations on their hands if they straight up cancelled their whole product line and replaced them in less than a year because of their own price/performance gating made them unsellable.

@H4WK6969 5 ай бұрын

My brother accidently tried to run battlefield 1 in 4k at 240hz with this card, needless to say it didnt go very well lol

@paulnewhouse5126 6 ай бұрын

Would I be correct to assume that my 3080 TI is still perfectly fine at this point? Great and informative video man!

@harveybirdmannequin 6 ай бұрын

Yes. The only worthwhile upgrade is the 4080 Super, 4090, or 7900 XTX. You definitely want to wait until next generation. In fact, you can skip this and the next generation.

@paulnewhouse5126 6 ай бұрын

@@harveybirdmannequin Thank you, i really appreciate the confirmation! :)

@arafat-_-1572 6 ай бұрын

I don’t think much people care about Raytracing , but much people focus on fps=$ , that’s why amd is better for your money 💰

@funny_man8779 6 ай бұрын

“Failed to meet the hype” i swear we were told it was only gonna be a few percent faster but have more vram

@anitaremenarova6662 5 ай бұрын

Clickbait gotta clickbait.

@Arnalou83 6 ай бұрын

I just ordered one RTX 4070 TI SUPER :) , for me the boost of performance in game is okay. the boost of productivity in 3d rendering software like vray worth the price, 16 Gb are future proof, the card use less watt than 4080 and is smaller .... and it's really less expensive than the 4080

6 ай бұрын

That's the same idea that I have. But then again, anything is an upgrade from a gtx 1080ti.

@mitsuhh 6 ай бұрын

Not anything. Some cards are worse

@wulfone5961 6 ай бұрын

That's what people said about the R9 390 compared to the GTX 970 with it's 3.5GB of VRAM. The R9 390 had 8GB of VRAM and people were claiming it would be future proof. It really wasn't.

@svante1994 6 ай бұрын

Don't listen too much to other gamers. From my point of view, PC gamers are really vocal... I've always played playstation and just now built my own PC. I got the regular 4070 Super, and I'm very happy with it. Plays like a dream. Kind of miss 4k, but with 1440p with ultra settings and great raytracing, I'm gonna survive 😅

@anitaremenarova6662 5 ай бұрын

@@wulfone5961 You are aware that came out in 2015? Your card will die sooner than that becomes an issue. With 16GB it will be a bit faster but still, in 7+ years rasterization will be the thing to give out first.

@anitaremenarova6662 5 ай бұрын

I'm happy with mine. It's running at 4080 stock performance overclocked and I saved 260 bucks.

@MTGFoil 6 ай бұрын

Watching this on my MSI 4070 Super nearly 24 hours in use now: The temperature is very stable and wattage usages impressive low. 2 Huge benefits already! About the game play: well we all have seen the benchmark videos. Coming from an GTX 3060 I am easily impressed I guess.

@NGreedia 6 ай бұрын

What resolution? I have a 3060 too but I can’t justify spending nearly $1000 after taxes here in canada for a 70 tier card. Our dollar sucks so that doesn’t help 😂

@MTGFoil 6 ай бұрын

@@NGreedia 3840 x 1600 144hz on an Alienware AW3821dw 38 inch display. I know many people may be disapionted. But many benchmark shows that the 4070 super is in the range of the 3090 which is far less power efficiënt, produce allot more heat and much more expensive. Win - Win - Win IMO

@freedomearthmoon1 5 ай бұрын

There are to many Nvidia nay-sayers. I ordered a 4070 ti Super. It's not a 4080 but it has 16 GB of VRAM. I saved some money not buying a 4080 and it's going to kick tail. Plus, it outperforms AMD's best card, the 7900 XTX.

@SureBlameItOnYourISP 5 ай бұрын

@@freedomearthmoon1 The 7900 XTX is a fair bit better than the TI super and better than the 4080/4080s. Meanwhile, the 7900 XT is also slightly ahead in raw raster but at that point, i can see a lot more people buying the TI super over the xt if the price delta is just $50 for the extra features. If the XT fell to $650-ish, it would be enough to justify my next gpu purchase.

@freedomearthmoon1 5 ай бұрын

@@SureBlameItOnYourISPPassmark scores the 4070 ti Super 7.6% higher than the 7900 XTX. The XTX requires more power. The 4070 has 8448 cuda cores the XTX has 6144 OR / 2,304 fewer cores. Why anyone would think it would outperform the 4070? Plus, the ti Super cost less and has better ray tracing. So, go ahead and buy the AMD if you wish.

@ronchu4453 6 ай бұрын

it just goes to show 12gb of mem vs 16 if your gaming at 2k it doesnt really matter that much

@Mopantsu 6 ай бұрын

It does. Developers keep the framerates the same whilst lowering texture quality when the game runs out of VRAM.

@anitaremenarova6662 5 ай бұрын

@@Mopantsu Yeah, it absolutely does matter. You want 16GB if you don't want to be lowering setting manually or the game does it for you (alternatively with lazy optimalization just crashes).

@Uvirra 6 ай бұрын

How is it possible 4070 Ti Super will be at same level as 4080? From the spec itself I can tell it won't.😅

@jiwoonhur9892 5 ай бұрын

50 series delay is not a rumor. It was confirmed with a roadmap during their last ER.

@bios9678 6 ай бұрын

I sold my 4090 and bought a 2080ti for $250.00. Honestly happier with the 2080ti, especially since it’s a good bin. 10% behind a stock 3080 when it’s using a ~400w vbios. And $300.00 less in the used market, no brainer really. I am done with high end shit

@freedomearthmoon1 5 ай бұрын

You either play scrabble or don't game at 4K and probably not 2K.

@stangamer1151 6 ай бұрын

I knew 4070 Super will be the most exiting card this gen. It is strange, that so many people really thought Nvidia will give them 4080 for $800. Have they already forgot that 4070 Ti should have been 4080 12GB? 4080 Super will also be ~5% faster than non-Super. 4090 still exists for everyone who wants much faster card.

@jassco2 6 ай бұрын

Finally someone points out the cache. Even Tom’s hardware review still has the 64MB of cache and point it out as a bonus. Very few reviews caught this.

@Obie327 6 ай бұрын

I spotted it that as well. Makes me wonder what the Ti Super could've been? Power/Wattage seems kinda low for ADA 103 as well.

@jassco2 6 ай бұрын

@@Obie327it would be too close to the 4080. ADA is very sensitive to cache which is how they were able to go down to a 192 bit bus on lower cards. They talked about this on their spec breakdown.

@Obie327 6 ай бұрын

@@jassco2 True, Totally get their dilemma, But then again who is really the loser here? The GPU performance flattening, Cache lacking, 800 pound pretending Gorilla thumping,, Or the consumer who has to suffer the Wallet rape from buying it? lol Thought it was funny. Peace!

@mryllo 6 ай бұрын

I have been waiting since the 900 series for that perfect 4k gpu that is atm 4k 240 Hz in non ray traced native gameplay hope that 5090 will be that card 😊

@mitsuhh 6 ай бұрын

And what if there are games that come out that then run only 100fps at 4K with 5090?

@mryllo 6 ай бұрын

@@mitsuhhthat will be fine by me as long as it can do 240fps or close on last gen 4k games that the 4090 struggling with that's not those games thats so unoptimised even 4090 cant do more then 30 to 60

@Gamer-q7v 6 ай бұрын

Maybe in bandwidth heavy games, the 4070 Ti Super could provide a bigger performance uplift. If they had given the 4070 Ti Super a few hundred more CUDA Cores and slightly more L2 Cache, that could have made a big difference. Nvidia said the 4070 Ti Super is 15% faster than the 4070 Ti. It's more like 10% faster, and that’s at 1440p and 4K where the biggest margins would be.

@2hotflavored666 6 ай бұрын

Of course. You're not thinking of playing at 1080p on a 4070 Ti Super, right? 😅

@jaykeem0 6 ай бұрын

Anyone playing 1080p on this card and 1080p in general next year is reverse evolution

@krishnakanth6662 6 ай бұрын

Nvidia is trying to sell sub par chips to us...

@anitaremenarova6662 5 ай бұрын

Well this card is massive overkill for 1440p and lower, should only really buy it if you play on an ultrawide or 4K.

@anitaremenarova6662 5 ай бұрын

@@krishnakanth6662 Still better than the VRAM gimping going on. 4080 super doesn't even have 20GB VRAM? Disgraceful.

@84jdgregory 6 ай бұрын

Isn't the 4080 super only expected to have a very minor performance bump(if any), but cost $200 less? I mean, cheaper is better for sure.

@firestuka8850 6 ай бұрын

Haha, I have an rtx 3070ti and I am not buying this. Not with that pricing and not with stupid companies like Ubisoft saying we should get used to not owning our games. Maybe starving these companies a bit will soften their attitude,

@tiradegrandmarshal 6 ай бұрын

IOW, just wait for the 50 series if you're sticking with Team Green.

@islammedheryamz8546 5 ай бұрын

how is it disappointing? i came up from an 2060 super, huge difference in performance

@JamesSmith-sw3nk 6 ай бұрын

The elder statesman on Digital Foundry's 4070ti Super's review said it doesn't make sense that the 4070ti Super performs closer to the 4070ti than the 4080 given it's specs.

@IcyTorment 6 ай бұрын

I guess Nvidia was right about L2 cache being much more important than bus bandwidth. A lot of reviewers are getting slapped in the face with reality, it seems.

@user-ii4dc3bs8d 5 ай бұрын

is this a good build setup: AMD Ryzen 5 7600 6C/12T 3,80/5,10 GHz be quiet! Pure Rock 2 be quiet! Pure Power 12 M Gold 750W ASRock B650M Pro RS DDR5 Crucial P3 Plus M.2 NVMe PCIe 4.0 2TB CORSAIR Vengeance RGB DDR5 32GB 6000 CL36 be quiet! Pure Base 500DX 12GB Gigabyte GeForce RTX 4070 SUPER Gaming OC 12G

@abraham9301 5 ай бұрын

change the gpu to a 7800xt and the build is decent and there are better coolers out there for am5

@AndreiHristow 6 ай бұрын

4070 ti super has one problem, 7900xt More VRAM, lower boost and clock frequencies, with DLSS turned off, a slight advantage in some games for AMD the technological advantages of NVIDIA help to perform better in some games, in others AMD drags and cries far behind. 4080 is definitely above 7900xt and the price difference is not huge Looking forward to more tests and reviews

@mitsuhh 5 ай бұрын

20GB doesn't have any benefit over 16GB VRAM in current games.

@AndreiHristow 5 ай бұрын

@@mitsuhh Some time ago we had 4 GB and were happy, now we complain about 16 GB for 1000+ euros 4080 is a fact that it is a better card with 16 GB A card with 24 GB is 4090 and the difference even with 7900 xtx is huge

@yosar6107 5 ай бұрын

@@mitsuhh Of course it has banafits. If you mod your games you will notice it at once. 20 GB is so much better. And 7900 XT is simply faster and cheaper than 4070Ti Super. It has also its own good software not avaiable to 4070 Ti Super like AFMF.

@AnonymousUser-ww6ns 5 ай бұрын

@Anderl True 7900XT is a better GPU in every way. It is cheaper, performs faster, and has more VRAM. However if one really need the Nivdia Features like Ray tracing, VR, AI, and blender for example then you would go Nivdia. I personally don’t care about those features so AMD for me

@AndreiHristow 5 ай бұрын

@@AnonymousUser-ww6ns I don't agree that she is better in everything. DLSS and Ray tracing make NVIDIA the leader at the moment Most games integrate this, NVIDIA integrates this into new games. In tests with DLSS, the 7900xt lags behind brutally

@Amp_Edition 6 ай бұрын

But...what one performs better overclocked? Personally, I'm impressed with the 4070 super.

@thisisashan 6 ай бұрын

7900 XT did get a recent big push in RT too, but is still slacking. TBH 4070 TI Super is probably the best price/perf in this area, since you can turn on more features. Better graphics at a similar price is a win. Coming from someone that likes AMD a lot. Low segment (1080p), Buy Intel Battlemage. Its $350 for 4070 perf, with better ram. Mid segment (1440p), buy either AMD or Nvidia. 7800 or 4070 (12gb or better) is good nuff High segment (4k), Nvidia is still the only real choice if you are playing any AAA games. Still. Let's be honest. Pressure is now on AMD in this segment to change their gameplan or be forgotten. I'm pretty sure Intel wants that low segment for the value of cards, and their drivers are now fairly well caught up. I will say though. People are voting with their wallets regardless of this, and basically saying, "We are tired of your greedy b.s. nvidia". Because 1600-2k for a 'hardcore gamer' experience is a bit much man.

@ragu4545 6 ай бұрын

I just did a new build and replaced my 1080ti with a 7900xt. I really wanted to get a 4070ti super but the extra features don't really matter to me if it is not faster than a 7900xt in ALL situations. The 4070 ti super only wins in some RT games, costs more with less VRAM. If I can't get >120fps in RT then it's not ready for me.

@thisisashan 6 ай бұрын

And that is fine for you, as a programmer I cannot be without the CUDA cores. For AI, I also cannot be without CUDA, it is just superior when it comes to raw compute in every way. While I get it, I don't think AMD is competing seriously in the market atm. I get your usecase is different. You don't care about RT and want to be competitive in a game that needs FPS I am guessing. @@ragu4545

@Jerry-jo6dn 6 ай бұрын

@@thisisashanThis dude is delusional if he thinks 120 FPS with RT without DLSS and frame generation will be possible anytime soon lol.

@ragu4545 6 ай бұрын

@@Jerry-jo6dnnobody said it was going to happen anytime soon. I don't even think 4k gaming is ready.

@pegcity4eva 5 ай бұрын

Lukesfz takes care of that

@oopsydaisy4637 6 ай бұрын

Consoles are looking better every gpu generation. It's like phones, no real improvement for years. Just charge more instead

@girenloland 5 ай бұрын

Buy a Asus rtx 4070TI. It not power locked like all other brands. so..... that means you can overclock a lot.

@TheTryingDutchman 6 ай бұрын

They limited tdp and cache on the 5070ti super to 'save' 4080 sales.. Classic ngreedia

@1SaG 6 ай бұрын

Don't really care about 12 vs 16 GB of VRAM thing, so I'm kinda considering grabbing a non-Super 4070 Ti *if* prices drop on those to sell off remaining stock. I seriously doubt this will happen, since I bet I'm not the only one considering this move and if prices on the non-Super Ti dropped too far they'd get too close to the 4070 Super's price. I guess I'm going to have to look a bit further down the food-chain and consider the 4070 Super. All in all, I think GN summed up this launch quite nicely by calling it "meh". :) Which is a shame because I still think these cards are good and the uplift they just got is also pretty decent (especially on the 4070 -> 4070 Super), but prices are still too high. Not sure about actual consumer prices in the States, but over here even some of the bare-bones Ti Super cards (smaller, 2-fan design coolers) start just under 900 EUR. And that, to my mind, is still loony-tunes-territory for a GPU of this tier.

@jarrgeez 6 ай бұрын

All cards released the last 10 days(4070 S, 4070TI S) are in stock and at MSRP. Nobody was fooled for what I see as the only out of stock card is the 4070 super FE and the PNY cards for the 4070ti super. $599 for 12gb in 2024 is overpriced by $100-150.

@mitsuhh 5 ай бұрын

4070 Ti S is a high end card, it wouldn't be out of stock so easily even if it was popular. $800 USD before tax is a lot of $$

@jarrgeez 5 ай бұрын

@@mitsuhh the 4090m is out of stock, the 4080 too. 4070ti S is a midrange card and I can pay $499 for a 16gb 7800xt from Gigabyte that has no problem playing tittles at 1440p.Nvidia's only selling point is ray tracing which let's be honest, no one uses.

@abraham9301 5 ай бұрын

@@mitsuhh It isn't a high end card. Also the reason why he's saying that no body was fooled is because it's still in stock with low amount of stock that tells you is ultra unpopular. It's not a well stocked card and even then it's still in stock with no issues tells you it's barely selling.

@cmoneytheman 2 ай бұрын

@@abraham9301 wacko

@thisisashan 6 ай бұрын

It isn't disappointing, as much as the price/perf isn't for most people. But in 2 years probably they will still be thankful if they bought a TI Super if they are using a 1440p resolution. Currently it does very well at 1440p but that may change. I'm looking more towards 4k entertainment, so I'm waiting for the 50 series later this year.

@joelomman8670 6 ай бұрын

the 550$ 6800xt to the 500$ 7800xt just like the 750$ 4070ti to 800$ 4070ti super. Same Ole crap

@NBWDOUGHBOY 6 ай бұрын

Lmfao! Exactly! 🤣🤣🤣

@freedomearthmoon1 5 ай бұрын

Sadly, far to many evaluate cards in terms of gaming and fps. Nvidia outperforms AMD in production work, offers more free software and the 4070 ti Super outperforms AMD's best card with many other RTX cards above this one. I think its a shame that people are complaining Nvidia is offering so many options to save money and purchase a card that suits their needs. Nvidia in not as myopic as reviewers who look at fps. Nvidia serves the business community, Hollywood, etc.

@John-qh3sl 5 ай бұрын

7900XT if you are going to be playing at 1440p. If you are going to be playing 4k, 4070ti Super will be better where DLSS and FG are superior over AMD's FSR and FG.

@lilpain1997 6 ай бұрын

Its actually funny how bad this is. I do wonder just how bad the 4080 super is now, at least that one got a price drop though.

@Shinyboy29 6 ай бұрын

Didn’t waste time to check reviews because I saw this coming Bought a 4080 In Australia 4070ti super and 4080 have a price difference of AU$200-500 dollars (US$131-$330) Despite being a year older 4080 is still 20-25% faster than 4070ti super

@mitsuhh 6 ай бұрын

4080 is not 20-25% faster

@Shinyboy29 6 ай бұрын

@@mitsuhh GPU Speed has many parameters This is gonna be like 3070ti vs 3080 a few years ago Everybody knows 70 will never surpass 80 Nvidia deliberately nerfed 4070 ti super to keep fools buying “within their budget range” when their true goal is to rip off more gamers Even vintage 3090 is faster than a basic 4070

@rulik006 6 ай бұрын

Looking like additional 16mb L2 cache giving a huge advantage to 4080

@jimmyacosta6061 6 ай бұрын

4070 super oc = is 4070 ti just get them 70s super oc. Save that couple hundred.

@user-ev3tu4pq9k 3 ай бұрын

We were told that it's only going to be a few percent faster than the ti, only with more Vram. I mean come on, failed to meet the hype? It's not supposed to beat the 4080 vanilla. Lmao

@freedomearthmoon1 5 ай бұрын

16 GB of VRAM is huge with many titles these days. By comparison AMD ray tracing sucks. Gaming is all anyone seems to want to talk about. For production work, Nvidia is a much better choice. The free software is very nice. If you take everything into account, you might not be complaining.

@anthonyortiz4254 4 ай бұрын

New card, needs better drivers

@Shannon-ul5re 5 ай бұрын

No one was fooled, it’s not selling 😂

@user-vv7ir1pl4j 6 ай бұрын

Why not get a cheapened 4080 when the 4080 super comes out

@Mopantsu 6 ай бұрын

Doubt you will see much of a price cut on those if they are still in stock that is.

@Mopantsu 6 ай бұрын

So many gamers do not understand that more VRAM does not always equal more FPS. What it does allow is higher quality textures even at 1440p. Go look at Hardware Unboxed talking about how it affects games like Halo Infinite etc if you set the game to 4K Ultra on a 12GB GPU. Texture detail vanishes to keep the framerate the same.

@freedomearthmoon1 5 ай бұрын

Yep, completely overlooked by the reviewer and so important today. You save some money, gain VRAM , great ray tracing, a great production card which AMD is not so great at either. All in all, the price difference / bump over the competition is worth it.

@johnhughes9766 6 ай бұрын

They could make it that fast that if you overclocked it it match the 4080 ffs what did you expect. Overclock it and it’s 5 percent behind the 4080 and cost £770

@YouHaventSeenMeRight 6 ай бұрын

Excuse me, but how did NVIDIA hype this card up? Anybody who read the specs could see that it would be at max 10% faster than the RTX 4070Ti, if you expected anything more than that you set yourself up for disappointment. Just because it uses the same chip as the RTX 4080 and has the same amount of memory with the same memory bus width, doesn't change the fact that it has less CUDA cores than the RTX 4080. So it couldn't ever be anywhere near that card in performance terms. It is what it says on the box: a better RTX 4070Ti. If you already have that card, don't upgrade, its not worth it. If you have an older card that performs significantly worse, consider it only if you want to spend the money it costs.

@mitsuhh 6 ай бұрын

It is quite close to the 4080 in performance, in my opinion. 80 vs 90fps for example isn't that big of a difference.

@Darkwhisper441 6 ай бұрын

Its close to the 4080 performance when oc. But £400 cheaper. How's that a fail?

@rdnowlin1206 6 ай бұрын

Low sale volume? The market is saturated after Primeday, Black Fri and X -mas. I'm waiting for all new cards to come out. Intel is introducing Battlemage soon. I need AMDs Rx7700xt to drop in price.

@John-qh3sl 6 ай бұрын

So this channel doesn't test anything but only goes by compiling results and videos of others? That was quite useless.

@MisterTonyG 6 ай бұрын

Yeah I'm gonna be one of those that will most likely get the 4080 Super. I find it dumb that the Ti Super doesn't have the same cache as the 4080. The straw that broke the camel's back.

@kaydawgy1999 6 ай бұрын

Darn that's sux

@freedomearthmoon1 5 ай бұрын

AMD fooled everyone, Ray tracing tanks performance, power draw is much higher and the card cost much more. Your electric bill will be higher and it's a lose lose in the long run for marginal FPS gains when playing rasterized games.

@Mason_bluegrass 5 ай бұрын

just find a used 3090ti cheap lol

@WatchThemFall 6 ай бұрын

It will basically be directly between the 4070 Super and 4080 Super in both performance and price. I don't see the big deal. At least you also get the 4GB VRAM going to the 4070 Ti Super from the 4070 Super. 4080 Super seems like the way worse deal

@REgamesplayer 5 ай бұрын

Ah, again with the conspiracies.

@fuzzylumpkins6034 6 ай бұрын

RTX 4075- The only thing with this card that missed the mark is the price. I am a huge AMD nerd and like this card. I like this card at £500 but that was never going to happen as that is the price of the super crappy lower 40 series gpus. Ray tracing is just something Nvidia and tech fluencers say- it is not anything the average gamers cares about. If it becomes a requirement for future titles, it will be as well received as EVs being forced on petrol heads and people with the ability to see they are a con. That is what I meant to say, dlss and rt, the new con. This year I stick with our 7900xt, 6700xt and our little guys 6650xt. Next year if these drop £250 quid, I will revisit it and look at the 7800xt to use to skip the entire AM5 chipset and hold me over to AM6

@NoirBlack-nf4gb 6 ай бұрын

Another dude hating on the 40 series for no reason

@abraham9301 6 ай бұрын

cope

@NoirBlack-nf4gb 6 ай бұрын

@@abraham9301 I'm not lieing tho and I dont have a 40 series graphic card why are people always looking for a reason to shit on the 40 series the launch price of 4070 is cheaper than the 3080 ti and performance isn't a huge difference at least they are cheap excluding the 4090

@Boorock70 6 ай бұрын

Nvidia's customer milking strategies & prices are ridiculous, no doubt about it. They really f*cked up the market for sure ! But they hit AMD hard with those "video playback" (KZfaq, Netflix, VLC) power consumptions... Gr8 job nvidia, impressive "video playback" power consumption figures that may lead AMD to some thinking in technical terms too 🤔

@vensroofcat6415 6 ай бұрын

Nvidia didn't hype up RTX 4070 Ti Super. Dumb people with no clue what bus width is did. "must be 16 GB, it will solve everything..." It's not that simple. It kind of should have been few percentage points better, but cutting down chips, that are designed for best full sized performance probably isn't as simple or linear. Also few percentage points won't save a day.

@cosmic_gate476 6 ай бұрын

It has 256 bit bus. The real killer is the cache

@vensroofcat6415 6 ай бұрын

@@cosmic_gate476 this is 3 kids with no degree in medicine looking at a dead rat - "it must have been cardiac arrest... or food poisoning... missing her pills maybe..." Yeah, nah. I'm not a microchip engineer and I doubt you are. All I know is a lot of talks about "busses" and "must be" are fanboys fed with agenda of billion dollar businesses with no critical thinking of their own. That's why we have independent reviews that skip the science fiction part and go straight to results. Which matter.

@IcyTorment 6 ай бұрын

@@cosmic_gate476 That's the point. People thought that bus bandwidth was going to make a much bigger difference than it actually did.

@mattirealm 6 ай бұрын

HUB made a correction video today, but even so, it is disappointing, the GPU. GN and others were "meh" on it and I believe that is accurate. Will the 4080 S be decent? I have no idea. I do know that the 4070 Ti was overpriced from day 1 and that Nvidia really needed to make this Super card 256 bit, but they didn't. I don't really have high hopes for Blackwell after the Super cards, but, you never know

@cosmic_gate476 6 ай бұрын

They did make this card 256 bit though

@hankstorm3135 6 ай бұрын

feels to me nvidia is just artificially limiting these chips to made up price ranges. sad that only nvidia has the good features like dlss... i will just stick with my 3070ti till 4080 performance is available for something like 600 euros. maybe the 5000 series have something nice...

@diddykong9366 6 ай бұрын

hold them over? for what? what new game can run with any of these gpus that isnt a 4090? literally skip this gen and wait for 50 series.

@adamtajhassam9188 6 ай бұрын

Watching this on a rtx 4090 loling @ you all who bought this.

@NBWDOUGHBOY 6 ай бұрын

Buying the 4090 was the smartest way to go this generation. You actually get the Performance you paid for.

@cosmic_gate476 6 ай бұрын

@@NBWDOUGHBOY 4090 is 60% faster than 4070Ti while costing twice as much. The more you buy the more you save 🤡 😂

@jaykeem0 6 ай бұрын

Finna be ‘loling’ at u once that 5080 drops way below $1600

@NBWDOUGHBOY 6 ай бұрын

@@pituguli5816 You should've invested crypto. Maybe you would be Rich instead a Broke, Poor Loser Complaining about GPU Prices instead of buying the best. Sounds like a Skill Issue to me. My suggestion to you is "Dont Be Poor."

@NBWDOUGHBOY 6 ай бұрын

@@jaykeem0 5080? wtf

@laszlozsurka8991 6 ай бұрын

NVIDIA purposely gimped this card so they can upsell you to the 4080 SUPER. On paper the 4070 Ti SUPER should've been only 5-10% slower than a 4080.

@rusudan9631 6 ай бұрын

if u have an older card and u NEED an upgrade and i repeat NEED, get the basic 4070 it will last u 3-4-5 years and u don't need to blow the extra cash

@zdspider6778 6 ай бұрын

The "4070 Ti SUPER" should have been called the 4070. And should have been below $500. The 70-class is expected to be on-par with the previous-gen 80Ti, but for _significantly less money,_ and to match the previous-gen 90-class would've been the exact push it needed, the cherry on top. Because *none of these cards are interesting.* Last interesting card was GTX 1070 when Leather Jacket Guy touted it on stage as being "faster than the Titan X" (the 90-class then). $800 70-class is NOT interesting. 😠

@rajkvx 6 ай бұрын

There should be 4 cards only, 1 for 1080p, 1 for 1440p, 1 for 4k, 1 for 4k+

@ColorDragon 6 ай бұрын

Not impressed, won’t buy.

@johnasosajr 6 ай бұрын

Not worth buying nvidia needs to drop prices substantially to make them make sense lower tier cards don’t have enough vram neither do the mid tier cards to make it worth their price if you don’t have an unlimited budget and care more about performance over ray tracing nvidia doesn’t even get a look

@derek8564 6 ай бұрын

Or just buy a console.....

@tofu_golem 6 ай бұрын

This entire generation of graphics cards is trash.

@NBWDOUGHBOY 6 ай бұрын

Lol, This whole Generation has been Bullshlt. Outside of the 4090 everything else is Worthless or Overpriced. We've got a full year of Bullshlt. Hopefully Blackwell and Radeon 8000 series brings better performance and prices because this shlt is Wack AF.