Hi folks. Chad said, he thinks his mom should stay in until eve is 18yrs old. Not for 18 years.

@Jesse or whomever reads comments: do you all know where the Walmart class action is? (For overcharging for meats and veggies…which is STILL going on! I got some chicken breasts a few days ago..2 medium size, I think actual total weight was about 1.5lbs. No more than that. I PAID for 3.5lbs. 🙄. I’m disabled, in a wheelchair and legally blind; I don’t drive and order things with WalMart +. Luckily, since I found out this was happening and check meat and veggies every delivery; they’ve been great about refunding the overcharge and when I had a delivery last month that was $20+ overcharge; they gave me “Walmart bucks” for the entire delivery. On the other hand, I had no idea this was happening until I was told about the class action. According to some videos online, this has been a regular, country-wide practice for more than 2 years. My daughter sent me a link a few months ago; but that article that linked to the lawsuit was removed and the only other links were scams-in fact I informed our Senior center about the scam sites pretending to be the law firm…asking for information up front that I KNOW would not be required…AND the links themselves…no class action is going to ask for your SS number and bank info..and please send to a Google email?!?! 🙄😡. Another was an 800 number and they tell you there’s a CHARGE to receive money from the suit. Another was an actual subscription scam…for the low low price of $7.95 they will send you monthly info on class actions, including this Walmart one. Then, you read the T & C and you’re authorizing a $59.99 monthly payment for a “coupon” to “The internet’s best discount site to purchase whatever you want. 🙄😖 (sad thing about this last one is it appears to be based right here in the US…in Utah. My ex is a software engineer in security and has added it to his growing list of “subscription scams” based here in the US. There’s some websites like NewsBreak, which tends to have an older demographic, is absolutely loaded with these scams. And unfortunately, most banks and some credit cards are no longer covering these subscription scams. It’s up to us to protect ourselves) If you know the VALID site for the Walmart class action; could you please post it?

Tell jesse weber to put his volume up. He's too quiet!

TELL THIS GUEST TO STOP SAYING "RIGHT"?. IT IS SO ANNOYING. I noticed it the last time he was on. VERY UNPROFESSIONAL

I so agree, Kevin was all for this

These kids will carry what happened to them for the rest of their lives. 😢

The County Attorney Eric Clarke has said he thinks Ruby is truly sorry and he wants her to be reunited with her family if the children decide they want to see her. This is crazy. Abused children shouldn't be forced to decide in cases like this. They are so broken, Ruby and Jodi need to stay in prison at least 30 years. I think Eric Clarke has a crush on Ruby. He practically gushed over her plea speech saying it was "heartfelt".

@@marcime174 is eclark LDS or whatever too?

@@jessJBIRD1981 Yes. Very much so. Clarke is very involved with the LDS church

Children always put the blame on themselves. It's truly heartbreaking

That is true but he saved himself and his sister. His mother most likely told him he needed to be arrested. Incredible. The abuse was so horrible so terrible and horrific. Words don’t have enough power to describe it.

This is on point.

​@@4MAGAWhen your mom constantly tells you you are evil it does have an effect.

@beareeves4923 yes, I can't imagine what those children will go through

Me too!

The entire family was manipulated and deceived. Kevin believed he was supposed to stay away. It's pretty messed up but manipulation is crazy real.

You need to dig deeper to understand how Jodi separated couples/ he’s not the only father she managed to alienate from the family. It’s mind control.

Mind control veiled by faith ​@@SunnyDays70s

@@SunnyDays70sa parent who is that easily controlled doesn’t deserve their children. He had no problem standing by Ruby’s garbage behavior for years before Jody got involved. He is not the victim here. He’s pathetic.

The neighbors were compassionate, Heroes! The gentleman made me weep with him! ❤❤❤

He showed true compassion.

When he saw the wounds while on the call with 911 and started crying 😭😭😭

The neighbour cried, one of the first responders cried in bodycam , maybe others did too but there was no doubt the cops, paramedics and the neighbours showed more kindness to the 2 kids in a day than those 2 abusers showed them in years

The 1st neighbour wasn’t home or just missed him ( not sure what part) and saw him and messaged Jodi. Imagine if he told R to sit and wait. R may have never be seen again :( The second neighbour Thankyou 👏🏻

Of course she lacks empathy, to do what she did to those children.

💯👍

Exactly

Ruby Franke is a Mother that doesn't Love 💔 her Children, 😫 She Lacks Empathy, She doesn't have Concious at all. She is a Sadistic Mother 😬 who Enjoys Torturing her children, Seeing her Children Suffering 😢. If Ruby Franke Cried in Court, She was Crying Only, for herself !! and she was Crying because she was Caught by the Police and she knew she was going to be a Prisoner in Jail for many Years. Ruby Franke was Crying in Court with Crocodile 🐊 Tears. She was only Crying for herself. As a mother Ruby Franke was not Interested in her children's Welfare. She had So much Fun Torturing her Children 😢 and being So Mean to them. Efrat

Ruby Franke was Crying 😢in Court just for herself, She Was Crying that she was Caught by the Police and she knew she was going to be in Prison for many Years. Ruby Franke has No Concious at all, she wasn't Crying for the Suffering of her Children 😢, she was Crying for herself. Efrat.

She knew.

She definitely knew what she was doing was wrong

She definitely knew what she was doing was wrong

and the courts didnt give the journals much thought...they just charged on the 3 months of abuse..that prosecutor is horrible. they could have got attempted murder when ruby said that they were going to put them in the arizona property and said "they will not go home" well, what would that mean? where would they go ruby?

@@jeremybilbrey1133 they created a copy of the Daybell situation seems like

🎯

Exactly. She is no better than Jodi. Ruby should not be allowed to blame her sick and twisted abuse on another.

And Kevin was involved and participated and was in full support of everything until…oopsie what he means is he was a victim too. 🤔 Hmmm he’s an adult. Don’t get me wrong I think he needs help and I hope he gets it. But he should NOT have kids. He admits he’s broken.

It sounds like someone with a mental illness, who might not think they are being 'sadistic'.

She was evil before Jodi, but Jodi enabled and encouraged it. Those two were made for each other.

She looked like a zombie... so I hope they find joy again, and not follow the patterns they had to live, and learn

He sat there for four hours. He showed her such kindness. He even fed her. She looked defeated utterly defeated. He treated her so well

@@bettylougreen6987 Her spirit was dying by humiliation, hurt, and deprive from the basic needs..caged in and locked.

Agree 🙏🏽😔

The Policemen and Policewoman in Utah are So Wonderful, Kind, Professional and Sensitive. They were Really Great and Wonderful 😃 💕🌷💐 Excellent Policemen 👏 and Policewoman. Thank You so much to them. Efrat

Well said 👏🏻

You are so right!

Made me sad her son believed she was apologetic, he has no clue how evil that woman is.

Agreed… she cares only for herself and a lighter sentence. Nothing re harms she done to her kids!

Dead right !

Nope. He's a horror.

When you say how do you not see any of your children for a year, many many dads don't see their kids. They are deadbeat dads, they don't care. This is just not the only case with Kevin.

He was brainwashed by Jodi and he wasn’t her first victim. I think he will be okay now that he is away from Jodi and Ruby.

For an educated, PhD professor, there's ZERO excuse for not seeing your kids for a year. I'm sorry, the brainwashed excuse doesn't hold for this. Damn, that Mormon Kool-Aid must be strong stuff!

He didn't care about those kids. He only cares about Ruby. The kids were just another job expected of him by the church and not made out of love (except for themselves). He was doing what Ruby wanted of him to please Ruby. The kids weren't even an afterthought for him. He was enjoying not have to deal with 4 kids but was not enjoying being away from his wife.

Exactly

not intentionally.... manipulated into staying away.

Sorry -- the brainwashing and manipulation excuse doesn't hold.

​@@ameliacoburn4787why are you caping so hard for that scumbag? He didn't even ask how his kids were after learning they were hospitalized. He asked about Ruby! He doesn't care about those kids, only Ruby and himself. FFS he wanted to press charges on Sheri for B&E when it was the cops who did it, then wanted to press charges on her for taking stuff from the home. What was he so worried about on those electronic devices? Even when he got them back he was mad that he couldn't press charges.

Yes and I also believe he would have ruby back in a heart beat. He's obsessed with her. Look at his reaction when he was first told by the cops. 'I love my wife I want my wife back'

Agree - she never seemed to grasp the horrible crime she committed. Just thanked a bunch of people.

It screamed narcissistic sociopath. Very similar to the "eloquent" speech Paul Ferguson made before being sentenced for torturing & starving his little autistic brother to death. He continues to believe his mother controlled it all and "made" him inflict the torture while she was at work. 21:21

I think Chad is still in more denial about his mother than he thinks. Sending healing his way

​@@meowzers8937 I think he's in denial, too. I had abusive parents, and more than 20 years later, I still learn how f*d-up psychos they were. New memories surface every now and then. Every time I think now, I've grasped the whole extent of the fu*d-upness, there's still something more that totally baffles me. The human brain just protects them, as the brutal reality might be too harsh to bear. Those things need to be approached step by step with professional help. I hope all the kids get the help they need to heal from this horror.

​@@Trammiliin2🙇‍♀️

18 years sounds like poetic justice

Both parents and the other demon deserve life in prison without the possibility of parole in my opinion. The fathers just as guilty because he was a part of the abuse when they did their videos . Rotten low life’s aren’t they ?

@@pheonixrose2995 We shouldn't forget Pam either. I definitely feel like she was involved, being she is in connextions.

@@MyLifeAsRazinellshe keeps on getting away somehow, but Kevin mentioned her being very involved in the creation and running of the cult and her husband and her had kids at their house to serve out the punishments by cleaning it. She was 100% involved, probably in the worst of it, and somehow she is escaping justice

@@Limitedonathiosif she was involved in the abuse she will see her day

Beide Frauen sollten nicht mehr raus kommen ,wie kann man sowas Kinder antun ,mir wird übel...Pfui😢

💯agree

You are absolutely correct. Ruby Franke is evil as is her husband.

The evidence is really, really bad. It really was torture, that is not hyperbolic.

I think it's 15 years per count as max . She has 4 counts. So possibly 60 years.

Very well said

In the video that he was streaming, he said he hopes to reconcile with her in the future. He’s still quite a bit under her thumb, even when she’s behind bars.

@@kremmiz1as an estranged daughter, takes a lot to realize that your parents won’t change and for your safety you have to stay away. I went back to try to get the relationship back a few times, the last time I even allowed her to manipulate me to stay in her house the last time I went to my hometown. That didn’t went well at all. I was in therapy and doing a lot of healing, but still as adults we need our parents. Realizing your parents never loved you in a healthy way could be really hard to process. Time and healing. I hate they have to do all that healing work now, because is not easy and nobody should have to go through that. Parents are supposed to be emotionally available for their children and love them.

​@@lhr8833 Very well said. In my career, we see kids who constantly want to go back to their parents, though they have been horribly abused in different ways. in many cases, they accept their fate and then pass it on to their children. Regards to you for getting out of that mind frame.

@@kremmiz1As a child abuse survivor, that’s pretty normal. Every child wants a relationship with their parents…or at least wants their parents to love them. So any chance of that happening is hard to fathom, let alone let go of. It’s even more complicated when the abuse is mental or emotional. Even in adulthood it’s still hard for children to completely denounce and cut all ties to their abusive parents. To judge children of abusive parents for hoping for a relationship with their parents or trying to reconcile is inappropriate and so unnecessary. It’s not helpful and only serves to victimize them further. It may not be the best idea for the child to reconnect as an adult, but that should be their choice and something they learn and experience on their own. That’s not for anyone else to decide.

Hope it's better than the therapy they had Chad in originally. That being Jodi and he himself apparently had to pay her a crap load of money every month.

And that he even said his mother spoke genuinely. For how much he’s been through his maturity is profound

Chad doesn’t care about his siblings. He admitted to being mad at Shari for calling the police on their mom.

@@westpnt you obviously haven’t been manipulated by a parent your whole life or you would understand.

It definitely is, if you remember her first call ever from jail, that’s truly how she is and feels when she talks to (her now soon to be husband). After that, I think her lawyer advised her to act and show remorse which then her other calls changed dramatically with her sister and again with her husband. 100% an act. I just hope she stays in jail until the kids are at least 18.

Well of course. Who wouldn't?? 😂

@@Grow_withbella "Definitely"??? How the heck do you know? A) Chad believed it was genuine and thinks there's hope for a relationship again someday in the future. B) Until a certain point Ruby was still believing everything Jodi said.... so of course her first phone call was still in denial.

Of course that long winded crap speech, was to manipulate her sentencing, everything she does is calculated. She should never be released. Not to be ever trusted. Her nasisiltic nature would want revenge.

@@ameliacoburn4787 if that’s what you believe then okay. And yes, I say definitely because this didn’t just start with Jodi. Ruby is a grown adult who should be accountable for what she’s done and not blame it all on Jodi. They are both guilty. You have never been in a situation where parent manipulate children into thinking what they are doing is wrong. It’s going to take a lot more from Ruby to change than just a few nights from jail. There was no therapist involved, nothing and all of a sudden miraculously she woke up from whatever world she was in and saw and believed what she did was wrong. Okay then 🤷🏽‍♀️

She’s is undeserving of that title

Yeah that was an important point those guys should have noticed. Declaring his autonomy is significant.

Speaks volumes.

He also calls Kevin, by his first name.

yet he thinks his mom's statement in court was sincere. He needs intense therapy to make that thought go away

nobody should listen to this sisters. They are horrible people too.

Agree she is a monster…. Hope the prosecution will not be manipulated by her….she was a monster way before Judy entered in their life

@@martinastreisel514she already got a sweet deal from the prosecution. She is guilty. Judge gave a sentence range. And in crazy ol Utah, a parole board will decide how long she serves. So praying that those folks see this released evidence and give BOTH ladies full sentences.

Yes, and Bonnie goes on to say that Ruby doesn't need 'mercy', she needs to be in prison and stay there for a very long time!!! People have so many negative things to say about those sisters but I think they are fab. Loving, caring, passionate ladies with big hearts who have been utterly crushed by what Ruby has done 😭💔

​More than likely the parole board that is set to decide the number of years these two monsters get, are more than likely MORMAN and the Mormon Church knew all about Jodi Hildebrand they sent people to her. They r a strange cult.

It’s also just used with children (getting down to their level and giving them space to feel comfortable). She was definitely dehumanized, but this one of the few things that wasn’t a sign of that.

CPS should be sued in behalf of these children for not responding.

​​@@lyndiwills6354 CPS knocked on the door but didn't have evidence for a warrant. They simply didn't answer the door.

True it's a long process but now everyone is suddenly involved obviously they didn't open the door cuz they had what to hide and the police and CPS can't exactly burst in especially without a warrant

Yeah, that's what Chad was missing she was genuinely upset she got caught, that's it. Not really upset for hurting her children.

Yes spot on, i wouldn't be surprised the narsisist Ruby is getting strength planning how she will invoke revenge. She should never see the light of day.

Well said!

I agree that abusers get a high from abusing.

She knew it was wrong because she mentioned it in her journal and was very secretive about it. Of course she doesn't feel bad. She has shark eyes. I'll never forget how happy she looked when she said she hoped no one her KINDERGARTENER who forgot her lunch

I heard in an interview with Jessie that her parents still have disowned her and believe in Jodi.

Omg!!!!! Evil discussing people,

Because they’re hateful people who haven’t changed.

I know right

The Turpin children had no follow up, and were placed in a place, known as abusive, before they took them in.

So many foster homes are also horrendous. I don't live in the US but have worked in mental health for years and people have NO idea. I pray that these children get the best treatment ❤

You mean his business partner. Jodi was his business partner.💰

​@@justkiddin84No, he was her client. She then became his client while slowly taking over under the guise of needing refuge from her demons.

She was their therapist running a brainwashing cult, not a friend.

@@justkiddin84 The business partner who slept in bed with Ruby in their own house while Kevin lived there.

The lesbian who came in and TOOK OVER. It’s incredible

I’m sure u was 1 of the ones that thought crystal(harmony Montgomery mom) should sue. She didn’t have her kid either. At the end of the day, ppl run behind money. His kids, he’s entitled

Its to pay for their therapy

Das Geld sollte nur den Kindern zustehn ,für keinen anderen ,alles belegen lassen das es auch die Kinder bekommen..

He is obliged by the state of Utah to pay for the therapy and other needs of his minor children in state custody. Also he is suing because of his own loss of quality of life and income.

@@e.k.4508 the state of utah didn't tell him to abandon his kids to their psychopathic mother and her psychopathic friend. He did that. He's responsible.

He was also brainwashed to think he was evil and needed to heal away from his family. This isn’t the first family Jodie has broken up systematically like this. Google Brian tibbets

Jodi forbade contact 🙄🤦🏻‍♀️💔 He was told every day that his family was doing so great without him, that he was the source of all their problems, and that he just had to continue with the 'counselling groups', and when Jodi considered him to be reformed 'enough' he would he allowed back home. She controlled the whole situation, just as she did for many other families. She needs to stay in prison forever 😭💔

Have you heard him speak, not on a gaming device?

@stacy6994 no Stacy I haven't.

Don’t know if it’s true, but I heard the youngest two are not together.

Soon to be 3 minor children. The oldest of these 4 is now 17 and has less than a year before turning 18.

I heard recently that the two younger are not together right now. My guess would be the concern that they would perpetuate the brainwashing with each other.

Kevin didn’t do anything

​@@Simplysilla27 exactly ...he neglected the children knowing they were being abused. Have fun defending that.

Kevin belongs in prison with TRUMP!!!😂

​@@Simplysilla27 except he did.

Correct

The darkly humorous thing about that was that Chad wasn't even bothered by it other than the food being bad. It was like a vacation compared to what his normal home life was.

My bf was sent to one of those and it still messed with his head and heart everyday still ten years later (luckily the one he went to got shut down finally)

Those camps are horrible

Chad didn't mind the camp at all! He liked most of it, except for the food. It's so important to listen to what the people involved think. It's too easy to think of us, rando's, to be able to judge about every aspect of their lives.

@@e.k.4508 it says a lot more about his home life that he like it -

The Dad also allowed Ruby’s abuse before Jodi came in the picture.

Nope, Chad and Kevin moved out together. Actually, were forced out together, by Jodi via Ruby 💔💔

@@bkang They did not leave at the same time.

​@@beareeves4923 Chad did say on one of his livestreams that him and his dad moved out on the same day. It's unclear if they moved in together at the time or if they left on the same day separately. Also the most recent update is Chad has moved out and is not longer living with Kevin. Chad moved in together with some friends

All of those sisters seem crazy to me

He's still brainwashed.

Cognitive Dissonance

Probably. It will change when he gets older. Also: we the public are brainwashed by all the terrible news and hearing only the terrible news. It sure wasn't all bad! There were loving times for sure in their family. Especially for the two eldest children.

Well the worst of it didn't happen to him, it happened to the two youngest.

@@saratemp790 Exactly. And to know what happened to them hurt him to his stomach. I hope the family bond between the siblings is strong and will help them over time to get all in a better place

He still didn't care. He just wanted them home so Ruby would be happy

Keep in mind that for fundamentalist parents like this controlling your children and your public image is a top priority. He didn't care that he hadn't seen his kids in a year or whatever, but he cared when suddenly his public image and ability to have control over his kids was on the line.

Even after his first interview he was more concerned for his monster wife and said he wished he had been a better husband not a mention of been a better father

They are never getting out!

​@@MsTinkerbelle87 I pray that is true.

I'm concerned there are a lot of people who are believing Kevin's attorney, Kestler.

true but he would've had to fight off the Hildebeast - a legitimate factor, she's built like a linebacker

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Probably statements about the people who are not involved in the lawsuit. For instance about the two middle girls

The entire family is complicit

I don’t care of any of them they are just money grabbers and in it for the views

Me too. Cautious of them from any angle they are coming from whether it appear defensive or vulnerable or anything in-between, i dont trust their motives

family vlogging is selling privacy, and drama sells.

yep. the sisters are fond of granting their viewers endless drama on how this scandal has affected THEM.

Then he changes it to just one

I know, it’s so sad to hear his little voice asking or favors. 😢

What's blanket training?

Yes, thats Bonnie.

I agree. He is definitely not okay. This is far from anything a child could just quickly & easily move past. It surprises me that the channel 2 guy does not understand why the kid doesn’t want to do a face to face interview. He can’t because, like you said, he needs to hide and do things on his own terms. Poor kid.

He is still brainwashed. That whole family needs intensive therapy.

Chad also said he didn't have a problem with the wilderness camp or having his bed taken away for six months for his prank. That doesn't surprise me. He was used to it, so it wasn't abusive, it was normal to him. It's like that with lots of kids.

Correct

YES, not intervened is so so bad. I don’t know how they sleep at night

Taking this to court and making kids testify would have been torturous

Well sure, I sound like my sister too 🤷🏻‍♀️

Too late now

Great question.

@@justkiddin84why is it too late?

​@justkiddin84 No it's not..but the investigation the paper work and most of all the kids to speak up..

Chad stated that he was shocked the third lady of connections (forgetting her name.. possibly pam?). Oh, i meant the PRESIDENT OF CONNECTIONS Pam- wasn't being investigated further and he thinks more should be done. Those middle girls 10000% were abused. I'm not sure if any more charges would be filed on Jodie considering they aren't her kids. And Ruby might argue that she had no idea the abuse took place because she wasn't in that home. I really hope all 3 get more charges honestly.

And that’s what is really important.🤮

I am so sick of this family go away and stop doing KZfaq all of them .

The vacations too

Bonnie is so obnoxious. She made a living by exploiting her kids and sees nothing wrong with that. She did blanket training. Anyone who does that to babies is not right in the head.

Her fake tears in her video is annoying too. And she used to listen to connections. Shes so fake

Ruby was NOT sentenced to jail.

Ruby was NOT sentenced to jail.

Unfortunately not. I think everyone in connexions should be looked into

Correct

@@Lemonade_Stand_ Amen!

Blanket training used to be very standard in many religious households - not just LDS, but evangelical Christianity as well. To be clear - I think it's awful and would never, ever use it myself! But when you grow up in a culture where it's normal to blanket train (and let's not forget, there are definitely differing levels of 'blanket training' too) you're just following what you've been taught by other women that you look up to, and also, popular books on parenting which circulate these religious groups. Bonnie is a loving, passionate, fiercely protective Mama bear 💖 MANY of the women I speak to who blanket trained their first child hated doing so, and never did it again. Every single one regrets it. We shouldn't judge Bonnie for what she did as an extremely young Mum, following the advice of her older wider Mama mentors; are you the same now as you were 15-16 years ago? I know I'm not! All three sisters are great Mums. They don't need to be investigated 👎🏻 It's not fair to tar them all with the Ruby brush 💔

My understanding of blanket training is similar to a binkie. Self soothing. Blanket discipline is where you teach fear with the blanket.

Yes blanket training is disgusting. Parents should slap themselves not their babies!

didn't the Duggar do that too?

​@@cheeling794 they sure did

He never asked how the kids we're doing in the hospital, the only person he cared about was Ruby

The only one that was sounding the alarm was Shari (the oldest daughter) and no one believed her.

Yup!

It had nothing to do with that. It was not having the victims have to sit on the stand and testify.

@@stacy6994 she didn’t care about putting her kids through that - it actually might’ve been cathartic for them to get that out- it’s all about protecting her own image and getting a lesser sentence by not making it a public spectacle

One of the middle girls is called Julie. Both of the middle girls were under Ruby & Jodi's control. So when Ruby writes about Julie she's referring to one of her daughters.

@@Aniram789 no. Julie is also her sister. When it's just a J it's the child. Julie was written out and it was very obvious it was another adult. Go read the journal entries online. I did and it's very obvious because LE tried to keep the children anonymous. Yes there is a child, Julie but that's not who I am referring to.

Bonnie needs to go away

They would need the parents permission to video tape then and that would be intrusive to their income so they weren't wanting to be the wonderful aunties that bad .

a lot of mormon KZfaqrs use there kids to make money if your gonna shame the griffiths siblings then talk about the rest for the lds youtubers…

Ruby's sisters are all I, ME, blah blah blah. Barely any mention of Russell and Eve if at all. Ruby"s parents didn't even return from their mission trip when they heard what happened to their grandchildren. The entire family is narcissistic.

The younger sister used IBLF ‘blanket training’ on her babies.😡

I hope the sisters are being monitored

@@bambiber4722 well now they’ve jumped on the bandwagon wagon saying how bad she is who knows. Such awful people

Especially Bonnie and Joel.

Hildebrandt was taken off of the LDS family services roster after her license was put on probation, according to a 2012 report from The Salt Lake Tribune. They removed her as soon as they were aware there was a problem.

Yep, she just had a giant home custom built hat she needs to pay off.

Correct

Exactly. And the people that follow her are just as bad. Wacko

She's in hiding apparently

A little? Tons