Country boy I love you 😛

This comment is too perfect!!!!

I literally put my hand over my mouth 🤭 gasp, you're exactly right!! 😭

Quick, get this to 1k likes, stat!

Daaaang that's accurate 😂

local misogynist continues to exploit women and fems? who woulda guessed /sarcasm

hes trynna be bootleg andrew tate lmfao

deadass guarantee he’s one of the guys they could do “content” with. he’s so scummy there’s no way he wouldn’t be

@@kaijudriftz3443 to be bootleg Andrew Tate is really bottom of the barrel stuff god Damn 😂

I disagree. I always expect to find Sprite in my milk carton. I don't want milk. Why did I buy milk?

That's exactly what I thought. When they said they set up events in Dubai and Bali my alarm bells went off. Those countries are absolutely a haven for sex trafficking, and then they are also asking her if she's now ok with boy/girl content. Which is what? A new way of saying would you consent to do porn with men you've never met in a country that is notorious for sex trafficking? This is just crazy disturbing.

10000% sex trafficking, immediately first thing I thought the moment they brought up a house outside of the country. no non sex trafficking business is going to ask you to do that. that's ON TOP of the fact that those countries are notorious for sex trafficking. just a complete "get the fuck out of there now" alarm

dude unless i had some sort of like safeguard like a friend that is a local there or smth i wouldnt even cosider it, that deal is a flag so Red you can bullfight with it

I mean having someone travel across country or state lines for sex work literally is trafficking, you don’t need to torture or r*pe someone or put them in a dungeon for it to be trafficking. Like that is the actual definition of trafficking

A literal sex trafficking operation cannot be a “front for trafficking” LOL

Not sex trafficking. Keep crying liberal.

I know I’m super late to the show and no one will probably see this but I’ve been screaming into my phone screen that it is sex trafficking BY.THE.FUCKING.BOOK. And as someone whose actually been trafficked it really upsets me that there’s this whole narrative that foreigners are going into towns in bum fuck no where and big cities a like kidnapping pretty blond white girls bc aside from that being a false narrative to push xenophobia, but it’s also especially dangerous to women bc shit like that company can operate out in the open and can victimize mass amounts of women bc too many are completely unaware of the warning signs and the tactics they use.

For me personally, nothing will ever top the growing horror and nausea I felt when watching a DannyGonzalas video where when making fun of alpha bro content, he unknowingly revealed what was very clearly a human trafficking subculture

​@@Nyx_Fey_ wait which video is this? He's made fun of many "alphas" so I gotta know

@@im_an_oysteri think it’s danny’s “Terrifying Alpha Male Club” vid abt andrew tate

That sounds like something a poop goblin would say…

I thought you were talking about Kurtis lol

@@Moonwalker2923 omg no i would never

@Кurtis Соnner shorts 🅥 omg its durtis honner. He even has a super real v

not the underwater horse from the 50s 💀

yeah it really needs to be investigated for sure

Yeah when she said they are invited to overseas locations like Dubai or Bali or Mexico these are prime trafficking locations. If you are overseas they can take your passport then you are fucked cause even if you go to the local police you could be arrested for adultry (dubai) or returned to the traffickers who bribe the cops.

I was thinking the same thing. Hopefully enough people notice enough for it to get looked into. I can’t help but think of all the women who *didnt* realize it was a scam/ trap:(

Very true, I hope people who have been signed to them see this video

Am I the only one seeing a lot of parallels to andrew t*te ?

Yeah dude that's wild right lol

Here, I’ll be your first non-bot reply.

I only see this as a compliment towards good ol Kurt tbh

@Кurtis Соnner 🅥 HAHAHAHAHA ho away

He also swings the keys around his finger while saying that

@@beanieguitarguy4070 thanks, it's been real hard man😔🤞

Here is the full Clip : when I met kurtis kzfaq.info/get/bejne/o6mWjMxom5mYook.html

@@wynn1587 so you're just all throughout this comment section defending sexual predators. I can only hope you're a pathetic attention seeker and not someone who genuinely believes this shit.

@Wynn Dude, that's like saying that because a business has terrible HIPPA violations, that the entire job field its in is too dangerous and no one should do it. Oh no, Elon Musk is shit at safety concerns in his Tesla factories? Guess we just stop the whole industry of making cars, oop. Stop putting sex work on a different standard than other fields of work, dude.

@Wynn Also, side note, the same risks are there for non-sex work? Normal female creators get stalked all the time; you do realize that? They have the same risks? So why are you singling out sex work? The chick here didn't even do sex work.

@@kiralonely1307 The comment was an answer to the original one of emma wells about spicy stuff in the video so wynn wasn't singling out sex work . Just responding to it... When you put yourself online in 2022, the content doesn't matter you'll get pervs and creeps, if you spice things up you won't get refined guys looking to play cards and big romance...

Youre awesome kid

I back this statement ^^^

you're amazing too

I think your a legend

As a fellow teen I agree with everything you said

Not to mention all the places she listed were all places outside of the US ☹️ That’s so scary

@@StarsXXXXXX There's no way it isn't sex trafficking.

The fact that they have NO respect for these women, their safety, or their boundaries…. Yeah…. It probably gets to the point where it’s human trafficking if you stay with them long enough

Immediate thought!

@@mirandawhittaker8481 That's how they can confirm that you'll get more money than you would working for yourself, because they will send you to as many people who want you. But if you want to be something like an escort, there are far safer companies to work with than this that won't ship you out of sight to work...

management agency to sex trafficking pipeline is real

you'd think he'd be more proud about running a sex trafficking business considering literally all of his other content 💀

@@recitationtohear Bot

@@gaygengar True but he runs it under the guise of “empowering women”. If anything he’d probably feel ‘shameful’ about being insufficiently sexist in branding but without that facade he’d probably be facing a lot more trouble.

or quite possibly the other way around, considering that his digital footprint is pretty concerning for someone in charge of an adult content agency and can be pretty easily found with a quick online search

i didn’t even think abt that. two weeks is such a short time n they already asked her about that ??

I’m also sure that at some point they’ll stop asking that question and let them go to the location before asking. Sick.

Wildest 14 days of this girl’s life.

@@playgr0undx they deserve to be in jail

i think they said "voyeur", but might have mis heard

It reminds me of back in the early 2010s when gaming KZfaqrs would sign on to these companies claiming to help their brand but all they did was get a cut from their earnings and throw their name around like “look who we have under our belt!”

Same, i signed with one and then they were really dodgy so I left. Found out a month later they were still using me on their website and on Facebook. Well dodgy

@@recitationtohear How did I allow myself to get cinnamon rolled yet again.. I really wanted an answer to why my dad left bro

glad you knew to dodge them!!! i dont know anyone who does online content or anything but i feel like texting all my friends right now just in case ahaha

@@iridescentsolace Damn you Machinima!

Honestly, that could get her killed. Stalking laws are weak as fuck.

Exactly, doing that to someone is extremely dangerous especially in this situation.

Straight up criminal behaviour.

@@Agmolly Stalking laws are a suggestion that exists and do nothing until the person gets killed. Even restraining orders do literally nothing until it's too late.

@@NachozMan Crazy to me how many aspects of our criminal justice system depend on the after effects of crime when things like stalking, even in incredibly obvious, detailed cases often get ignored entirely. Like damn, I'd imagine anyone interested in actual justice would jump at the opportunity to take down a criminal BEFORE they commit a crime

@Chad 007 ……..this video link is every where I can’t escape it……….

Fuck I used to be that guy. 10-15 years ago... Glad I've grown out of that mindset. If it ain't meant to be it ain't meant to be.

It still baffles me that men are out there acting like that.

Lasagna

@Кurtis Соnner 🅥 🤢

Yep

I really hope it gets taken to court as well. Like the doxxing is absolutely insane and terrifying, I really hope the “agency” gets in serious trouble.

I hope Russell gets pantsed in court.

I thought that immediately after seeing the messages

That’s the stupidest conclusion you could have come to

Thank you for sharing your story Vaega, I hope you and everyone else unfortunately wrapped into this scam and possible sex trafficking ring is safe and well and recieve justice ASAP!!! It's so disturbing how openly they are taking advantage of these people, it makes me sick.

ur so cool for doing this!! i’m sure it’s saving other girls from falling into the same trap. so sorry all this happened to you.

Cheers for the interview mate, it’s great to hear people talking about really nefarious and predatory scams, since we should all be aware of this stuff! Hopefully nobody gets reeled into agencies like these. Also, great KZfaq name - reminds me of Alan Vega, the singer from Suicide (I’m guessing that’s the point)

Please take this to court if you have the ability to do so 🙏

thank you for sharing your story! so sorry you went through all that. wishing you nothing but happiness and success!

Replying to this because I'm sick of bots being the only replies to valid comments

Legally Vaega can sue. Doxxing a client's personal information regardless of the company's policy on privacy is illegal. They can get their license taken away and more.

I was absolutely horrified when I heard that. They literally removed even the most basic safety protocols just so he could keep having "access" to her. Disgusting

Repulsive

Oh my god I never picked up on that. That is so disgusting and horrific and I hope no more women or literally anyone in general falls for this.

Disguised Sex tracfficking

OH... Fuck, you're right.

Oh my god that makes so much sense! If they have control of your accounts, why wouldn’t they use them to also promote themselves?

They most likely also message random guys and try to get them to buy the content. No telling what they tell these strangers in order to get and secure a buy so that sone could be dangerous as well.

a big part of onlyfans is messaging your subscribers and trying to get them to buy extra content from you. a lot of creators send out automated messages to people but as vaega said the people from siren were doing that on her account which also led to them doxxing her to a subscriber

@@valodate ahhh that makes sense. I don’t really know anything about OF as I was wondering how they ended up doing that. It’s so dangerous

I didn’t even think of that I bet you’re right

Futaba

lotta bots in this comment section huh

As he should

@@existential_horror5045 because sadly KZfaq is full of em and doesn't do anything bout it lmao

I would too

Of course it is, it's a sex worker agency, it's obviously human trafficking.

Oh god the fact that you could be right about this is sickening

And considering the amount of money they demand, I could see them running girls into huge debt and scaring them into going just to erase what they supposedly owe, without giving them the details 🤮🤮🤮

Well, Russell said these girls were making the easy buck, so later on he just capitalised on that.

Pullin’ the ol’ Andrew Taint

No I don’t think you’ll be called pessimistic, just braindead.

SO TRUE Kurtis is spoiling us

truly I feel very happy rn

@Deadpool. 💀

honestly

Frr

@jhjfnfg You won the lottery!!. Just send me the processing fee of 5000.- USD and i'll send the grand price to you.

Yes omg, I worked in a supermarket and if a costumer asked if someone was working that evening you had to act like if you didn't know... So thinking of someone giving a legal name to a stalker in the adult content industry makes me sick

Gentle reminder that the only pronouns given for Vaega in this video are they/them 😘

My work used to have a list of people allowed in a cupboard of full names on the shop floor. With first name name tags, 2 separate men found my full name and messaged me online

literally i worked for a small business and i wasn't even allowed to take a pic of the schedule. this is fucking insane

@@saritavenkatapathynaidu9533vaegina

Practically

With someone like hurtling as Co owner I wouldn't surprised. He hates women so he'd prob think that's all women are good for.

Don’t click the link be straight posted, it’s spam

@Be Straight Be gay do crime instead

That’s exactly what my husband and I weee just discussing. Sounds like she was close to being trafficked.

all these replies are bots 💀

Wishful thinking

thought he got lost in the Mariana Trench or overdosed on ketamine

@@adomestichousecat9707 I used to report every one of them as spam. Now I report them as porn.

Forgot about him and was living life before he returned

It's refreshing. Anthony Padilla also has really good interviews with some folks in the spicy space and I like watching him talk to them on an equal level.

yesss I always fear that content creators are gonna be weird or disrespectful to sex workers when they interact and am always happy to be proven wrong

It shouldn’t be refreshing that spicy workers are talked to like human beings and yet it is. Yes the bar is super low but I still super appreciate Kurtis is always drinking his respect women/spicy workers juice every day.

@@blackparademistress1 yeah it's just nice to see him showing how *easy* it is. This type of language isn't hard and yet many creators makes it seem like they have to have a "I respect peopel" disclaimer or really show people how much of an effort they are making "navigating the pc-georaphy". Kurtis just talks respectfully like it's no big deal for him to do that

its the bare minimum from men tbh it shouldnt be praised

Here is the full Clip : when I met kurtis kzfaq.info/get/bejne/o6mWjMxom5mYook.html

I work as a waitress and we literally give people fake names while working cause just no

literally its one of the first things they tell you at ANY job - don't give out personal info.

Even in a supermarket I worked as a cashier we weren't allowed to give any information of any peer to a costumer... So thinking of giving it to some stalker in the internet in the adult content industry is sooo fucked up.

@@burningrumm please don’t interact with comments like those, they are spam bots. when you engage with them and click their links, it promotes their page and makes it easier for them to spam. in the future, the best thing to do, is report these comments.

Yeah, especially since content creating is so hard to do especially as a woman or femme leaning person. Them taking advantage of these people is so gross.

Scary and sadly, common.

If you go do anything online without acknowledging the fact it's INCREDIBLY easy to dox people and find their personal information, and don't accept the dangers that could put you in, especially as a woman, well you just have to be an idiot frankly.

I can relate to the stalker shit. I had a dude show up at my job I'd never even spoken to who went through my shit to find out where I worked and threatened to stab me through my piercing holes

Hey yeah stalkers are no joke! I've had a few and at more than one occasion some of them have obtained my phone number, one from approaching a friend of mine pretending he knew me, and another I don't even know where he found my phone number as I was a minor at that time. It's a huge invasion of privacy and at some points I've been scared to even go to work or just to the store to buy groceries. You feel constantly paranoid and like you're being watched. And hey if they found out where you lived, your name or your phone number without even talking to you, what else are they capable of?

@@helledising8273 I feel you. Going thru this rn.

@@xoxomishka ohh that’s good then

He probably put it in Tags.

@@Nerdgirl9853 he didn’t

I think youtube also shows videos that mention the words you search up using the transcript of said video, so i think it’ll show up?

I'm replying so Kurtis has a slightly better chance of seeing this comments. People gotta know this about Siren, and it'd save them tons too

I think she didnt deserve this, go get a real job and work like Everyone else. Onlyfans models contribute exactly nothing to Society and even make it worse, cause more lonely men are in parasocial relations with them instead of seeking love in real live. I hate this guy too, but its hard to feel sorry for these „creators“

@@teknofreak2387 If she's making money, that makes it a real job. And like it or not, if there's an audience that enjoys the content, then it is a contribution. Tbh, if you have a problem with it being a viable career, I think it makes more sense to blame the market rather than the people who are just supplying a demand

Actually tho XD I was thinking as I was watching that she’s one of those people that gets prettier the more you look at her. Sucks she got pulled into that shit, glad she got out of it and Kurt boi is here to shed some light

As a trans man, like as a dude who passes as a dude but also used to be widely seen as a chick, he's a fucking idiot, end of story. Men take me 10x more seriously as a dude than they did when they saw me as a woman, for starters. I hate the bullshit those assholes perpetuate when, as someone who's seen both sides, I can like objectively say they're fucking idiots. The difference in how people treat me is big enough that I can usually tell in just how someone treats me, whether they subconsciously still view me as a woman, or a "woman turned man" kinda thing.

I think people often forget how close we are historically to times when women and minorities straight up had no rights. Like you said, it's only been 100 years since women have even been able to vote. I have friends who have just a few familial generations since said family were literal SLAVES for fucks sake. But yeah, many people would have you believe nowadays that we're past all that stuff when in reality, we've had slavery longer as a country than we've been without it. The same applies to women's suffrage.

yea I’ve never understood the “women get it easier” bc even if they are getting it easier, who’s making it easier for them? that would be men. and the point of woc being treated like dogshit just completely disproves the “women have it easier” statement.

^^^

That's absolutely terrifying. Glad you escaped that.

missed opportunity

I’m glad he didn’t. This was quite the serious situation

total missed opportunity. We expect better of you, Kurtis /j

@@anitaaranceta780 there's still jokes in it. Lol

@@elianazuniga6541 yeah, youre right. I just don't get the joke ajajaj. Sorry bout that

Best collent

More like russell hardly

kurtis must pin this

good comment

nice one

They're also countries that tend to do things like restrict travel and revoke passports of people accused of certain crimes. Lots of ways for this scumbag company to get women into sex trafficking by offering them no other way out.

The bots bro 💀💀

@@cheesegur Frr like 💀💀

@@cheesegur ik it’s killing me 💀💀

I'm just here to remind y'all that those "making fun of bots" comments are also bots. Do not like them or reply to them, just report them. The system doesn't recognize them as bots if people interact with them.

Agreed. These kinds of videos are a guilty pleasure of mine

no, it's actually peanut butter

@@daisangenwannabe I wouldn’t be shocked either if it’s also specifically you get pregnant from the porn.

@Daisangen Wannabe they specifically say "have a baby," not "are pregnant," so I really doubt they're implying abortion there

Considering their ultimate plan for vegamoon seemed to be pimping her out, I wonder if that "We'll covered you if you have a baby" really meant "if you get pregnant working for us..."

Don't have kids don't get sick or you'll ruin your life, America in a nutshell.

Kurtis only used they/them pronouns for Vaega, it can be easy to miss! You’re so on point, tho!

@@saritavenkatapathynaidu9533 in her bio she has she/fae!

@@aniiahieisn’t a fae like a mythical fairy creature

@@GoodKidmAAdLizard neopronouns

@@aniiahie neopet

holy fuck, when did youtube bots get this bad

Wow

@@cloudlily8835 I know, right? But I like how they thought that "making fun of bots" thing would be enough to fool everyone, lol

@@Syd448 absolutely terrifying, you're right. I also had "this one guy", who wouldn't just leave me alone and it was a really scary experience, wouldn't want that for anyone at all. I hope there are some ways she can deal with him for good.

@@arima_song I had the same, he used to follow me home from work at night. There are SO many creeps out there and a lot of guys don't understand why women are so cautious.

Would not have said it better myself!

You put into words exactly why I like Kurtis's videos so much!

I love the way u explain it. Really got to the point. Ur comment also got hearted by kurtis

i love it when he goes into journalism mode!!

Totally agree! I recommend Nick DiRamio for anyone who likes hilarious but really constructive critiques. They have such a sharp wit but also really clever ideas for making bad movies/content better

Americans think the rest of the world works the same as america

who was the influencer???

Glad you dodged a bullet

the us healthcare bit is so funny

Expose them, who was the influencer?

I've only worked at one place that felt like that, and they didn't advertise it. It was also a very small restaurant (I don't think we seated more than 80 people at a time), so it sorta made sense(we were also heavily understaffed). I still work there to this day, and I enjoy (most of- there's the occasional bitch that comes and goes) the people I work with. Most of my coworkers are adults (I'm in my mid-teens) and would immediately shut down a situation where they thought I'd be in danger, harassed, or straight-up looked down on (I'm a hostess, every customer that came in had to talk to me, especially because I was the only hostess on schedule half the time). For example, I was training as a server my first year there and I didn't know our alcohol options, since I had never served prior(we had also just gotten the selection and our ABC license, so everything was still new) and I was underage(so I technically couldn't serve it. I can't even touch it when bussing a table since I'm not 18), I never took the time to learn; there was no need for me too when I hosted. I had a table of three, a young boy, his mother, and his grandpa. The grandpa asked me what our beer options were and I immediately blanked. I tried to list off what I knew, but ended up having to tell them I would need to grab them a beer menu. As I walked away from their table I heard the mother whisper to her dad, "I think she's special," which made me feel like absolute shit. Much later, they were still there, and I told one of the other servers. She was _livid._ She went out there to talk to them about it, even though I tried to tell it was fine(I have social anxiety and stumble over my words a lot, so people saying this kind of stuff was never surprising to me, I kind of got used to it after a while). To this day I still don't know what she said, but when they left, they had tipped a good portion of their bill and were excessively nice to me whenever I went back out there.

Honestly!

feel like this man hasn’t even spoken to a woman in years lol

What the fuck had happened to bots- every comment has at least one bot

But honestly yes

“MY MOTHER IS VERY PROUD” -Russell Hartley

Do you feel like sharing them with Kurtis?

@@gpgp1841 yeah, I'd be up for talking about my experience

You should totally reach out to him! I’d love to hear a podcast or see more videos exposing this dangerous nightmare trap company. Stay safe!!

What did they do to you?! I'm sorry if I accidentally triggered horrible memories for you

I got attacked by a real siren in the ocean, and it still wasn’t as bad as whatever Russ is doing.

I said the exact same thing

why do they ever agree to being pimped ?they can just open an only fans

@@everything5066 Because running content, funds etc. when you have quite a large following can be hard on your own.

@@everything5066they pImp themselves which is as bad

@@recitationtohear you're as sus as the bot so you also must be a bot ong get a hobby

​@@skullchimes dont engage with bots

Revealing Vaega's name could literally get them killed.

@@fabra1122 Report bots for spams.

do you think they could go to court for that?

@@kanexoxo Probably. While I'm not exactly sure on how US law treats something like this, I'd be surprised if there was no protection at all. Siren clearly violated the trust of their customer, potentially putting their life in danger. The fact that Vaega still gets messages by this stalker person months after the fact should help to build a case.

@@swagromancer Even if US laws don't forbid this, I suspect European Union GDPR (General Data Privacy Regulation) rules would forbid what Siren does.

@@whateverlolawants They absolutely do. European courts would chew them up and spit them out for this.

@Celeste it’s good in the sense that I get their money, but it’s never “good” to disrespect someone for the job they choose if that job isn’t hurting or effecting them in any way.

@@celeste1197 According to my friend that does this, the ones that give the most money can end up being the most obsessive and dangerous for your safety. More money seems great in theory, but not if a person is actively trying to locate you with ill intentions.

You know, I work at a nonprofit and don't have these issues at all. Plus I do some good for the world. There are other areas of work where you can actually contribute something to the world AND not be harassed

@@NadiaSeesItnobody asked dude and i wouldn’t be so quick to assume you’re contributing something good 😭 you know how many nonprofits turn out to suck? at least adult creators know the full extent of what their role is in their work

@@NadiaSeesIt Wow thats super condescending.

Laughter

Replying cause it sucks when your replies are only bots. Also as a heads-up to anyone reading these, please report the bots for spam. Don't click links, don't give them likes or reply to them. The one's "making fun of bots" are bots too. Also, same, the more investigative takes with like comedy intermixed makes for my fav videos from a bunch of creators. I love it when they take that route lol.

@@kiralonely1307 Yeah the making fun of bots ones are especially annoying imo. Like yeah, let's just take a notoriously bad issue that KZfaq comments have and make them WORSE by clowning on the other bots. Doesn't make any sense