Just look at RTD in any recent award ceremonies, interviews and other TV appearances. He is very much about the message and he will use Dr Who going forward as a platform. He's already started.

Personally, I think we can move on from the timeless children without it being retconned, it seems about as easy to ignore as the Foctor being half human. But, the Davros thing is crazy, when I first heard it I thought it was a joke. I was baffled and confused when I found out it wasn't.

I think Davros is fine as an able bodied character if the story is set early in the Daleks’ timeline. In fact a story about his early life would be good especially if it showed how Davros’s physical condition deteriorated. At the same time we are used to a Davros whose body has been mostly destroyed due to war because the Daleks were forged in war. So of course it makes sense that Davros, like many other Kaleds, was a casualty of the war and became radicalised into hatred of other peoples through his injuries.

RTD will be known as the man who killed Doctor Who - after Chibnall brought it to its knees.

RTD is the British equivalant of Fred Frieberger!😂😂😂 FYI: He's the guy who killed Star Trek & Space 1999

I remember reading the dr who magazine in the UK in the mid to late 90’s and people hating the valyard! Now it’s kind of forgotten and never really mentioned ever! So like that the timeless children will fade from the minds. What worries me is the Disney push for garbage not RTD.

The majority of humans throughout all of history were not white. The majority of humans throughout all of history were not male (it's about a 51/49 split in favor of females). And about 10% of humans throughout history were homosexual or, had they the option, maybe would have been transexual. It feels very weird framing to say that someone saying "you know, it's uncomfortable that we totally discluded these people from our vision of humanity" and well-- maybe they over-correct... And that, that is when you identify that an "agenda" is being pushed and not all the time previously when the message that such people weren't really human or could just be utterly disregarded. Dehumanizing such people simply wasn't "pushing an agenda" in your eyes. And that's where you have blinded yourself. There absolutely was an agenda being pushed. There are older Dr. Who episodes that ought to be utterly embarrassing because of just how wildly racist they are against Asians or Africans. And you are really going to act like no agendas were being pushed back then? Come on-- be honest-- there were some stomach-churning agendas being pushed back then. Maybe there has been an over-correction. You know-- that tends to happen.When people realize something bad has happened, they tend to over-correct. But things will balance out with some extra time. The erasure of black people in Cinema led to Blacksploitation in the 1970s, the erasure of Asians led to lot of Asian-themed movies in the 1980s, the erasure of Native Americans and gays led to a big burst of Native American movies and gay TV shows in the 1990s. And now we are in the whole "we were really shitty to trans people, so let's spotlight and celebrate them" phase. But it will pass. Also-- romance between companions and literally anyone else they meet during their journeys regardless of race or gender or whatever-- my god is that better than a romance between the Doctor and any companion. Because well-- how the hell does that make the Doctor look long-term? You can't very well take his romantic feelings towards any new character seriously after seeing how the last one unraveled, can you?

Guess you’re just gonna have to watch the older seasons.

Technically Cartmel made it domestic with Survival, the final Classic Who story. This story also had a huge influence on the first RTD Era.

I think it's safe to say the Doctor has slowly been retconned back to being a Time Lord as The Toymaker kind of revealed that the Timeless Child was caused by him even though RTD is not getting rid of it completely.

Aaand then he acknowledged the timeless children.

That’s where I probably differ from you, while I agree the later seasons were a warm pile of stinking… 💩 I actually liked the domestic home life of the companions. It makes them feel real and relatable. Otherwise I’m not as invested in them as characters. The doctor has nearly explored every concept by now. The companions are new and ever evolving. Nothing like a bit of home life to set them up and make me feel something for them.

Really enjoyed hearing your take on this! Come and talk to us on Type 40, sometime!!

And yet when I put this video against anything RTD has ever said about Doctor Who, I only hear anything resembling hate from one corner...

Davros is one of the most icon villains of Dr Who and now he's going to be retconned, that's just stupid. So we just forget the last 60 years? Now who asked for the Dr who and Donna to be back, well certainly not the fans if you go by the viewing figures of the 3 specials! They dropped lower by each special! Actually some of the higher ratings came from The Doctor and Amy episodes but RTD didn't give a damn about that, he did what he always does, what pleases him and not the fans! He even stated in a tweet that he didn't care what the long term fans think because he is so egotistical! What will be the next villain to be retconned- the Daleks,,,?

People when a gay man writes fiction based on his life experiences (he adds gay characters) 🤯🤯🤯 Bro Russel T has always done this. Man made the first openly bisexual character in Dr who, Captain Jack for feck sake 😂 Your sonic screwdriver is dope AF btw

Doctor Who died in 1989, any "Whovian" should know that. Btw all of Jodie's New Year Specials were better than all the Christmas Specials, & Chinball's dialogue was way less cringe than Muppet's, so your opinion is based on bias rather than merit. If you have no problem with the Doctor snogging his companion, then you should be able to tolerate anything. RTD failed to re-hire McGann, instead he hired Eccleston & then Casanova - that's the opposite of "great", "glorious" & "heroic". The Timeless Children is only as bad to the canon as the 50th special was, which you've all forgotten, so just forget again. Neil Patrick Harris is a gay man playing a villain, despite there being "a long history of" vilifying gay men.

Agree with every word. The Timeless Children killed it stone dead for me. Out of interest: do the classic collection box sets reference post-Capaldi Dr Who much? Just so I’m prepared 😂 Check out the link above for the proper ending to the story.

That title is not true RTD loves his fans and doesn’t hate dr who 😂😂😂

Doctor Who has always had a left-wing tilt to it. His statements are concerning following the recent events with Doctor Who but in and of itself there is still hope, Russel T Davies is a massive Whovian himself and especially with David Tennant who himself is a massive Whovian and always has been, I think there is potential. The issue is also the posturing, but even when Russel T Davies does make shows which are explicitly about social issues, he tends to do so in a way that feels more natural than the most recent "writing" of Doctor Who, such as Its a Sin. I'm certainly still sceptical and I think you're insane if you're not, but there is a lot of hope that certainly wasn't there before.

You don’t know TIMELESS CHILD is the worst. Never forget that story came from the master… also, the Doctor’s place in that myth can still be rewritten. On transphopia: you don’t get it, you don’t care, but there is a large part of pop culture that needs some positive attention, so be open minded as the Doctor asks. Or be you. Barf.

This isn't news. Davies has been 'woke' for years. That said his projects are usually pretty good so Idm too much.

I think you missed a big fact about being a Davros type of villain. You have to be a german from the 1935s... From what i have seen in clips and fotos, he looks like an SS officer... so lame and cheap. What Davies said about the handycapped thing is the most idiotic thing i heard from so far. If he writes for Star Wars next, will he retcon Vader? Attach all his limbs? "oh he can't be handycapped, he makes me uncomfortable" He totally went of the rails with that one. And since i answer this from the future, i saw reviews of the first 2 specials, and they seem to be rubbish. I for one can't watch them, and after hearing about stuff, i didn't even wanted to watch it anymore. I was tempted before all that, to check out the specials because of Donna and Doctor 10, i liked that duo. So funny when she freaks out and yells, but now... no. It helps not to have subscribed to disney lgbtq+ From what you told us about Capaldis episodes, i felt the same, it was strange, but not in a doctor who kind of way, it was way off... But i really loved the moment he met the first doctor, oh that was glorious, the guy looked exactly like Hartknell, wonderfully done. There was an oportunity to do episodes with the first doctor... man i would have loved that. Building old style sets, wardrobe from back then... This is such a missed oportunity in my mind. And Whitaker... first i thought "okay... the master turned into a woman... and she looks good" Yes i know, talking about looks and not substance, but it is all i knew from her, the face reveal trailer thing, never saw that woman in anything before, so that visual was the only thing i had to build my opinion on. And then the episodes dropped, and it was horrible, it got worse and worse, and after the timeless children episodes... i was out, no new Doctor Who anymore, did not watch anything afterwards. The crap surrounding the show, the comments about the fans are toxic and all the payment shit, was enough for me to leave it. You want more money? Then do the same amount of work. But she did not, it was less and less... idiotic behaviour. Sorry, got a bit out of hand... but it is so frustrating seeing again a franchise destroyed, after Star Wars, Disney killed the Doctor as well... not bad. Only Jar Jar Abrams was on the same level of destroying big franchises so far, and he was in the same boat with Disney for destroying Star Wars... it is all connected...

Why would he come back if he hates the show?

I don't mind inclusion in television. But there is a way to do it tastefully while not having it intrude dialogue. Chibnall's Doctor Who was basically forcing it into the dialogue.

They should've asked Toby Whithouse to showrun IMO instead of bringing Russell back to weaponise the show as a platform for indoctrination. Toby's a "domestic" writer, but the apolitical non-dogmatic kind.

RTD is a hack soap writer. Look at his writing credits. Name ONE show that isn't about gay relationships. He's just a one trick pony.

Womp womp

WHO is just doing what it has always done, the internet has just given the garbage far right more scope to whine about it

I would like to point out the beginning of Davros and the Daleks was shown on TV for BBC Children In Need. A night where children with disabilities are celebrated and rasing money for special treatments and facilities amongst other things like childcare services. The last thing they want to see is a person with a disability shown as a villain when we are meant to be praising disability awareness. That's RTD's reasoning. And I agree with it. Of course what he has not mentioned and I think this is key, this is pre accident Davros. And if RTD is sticking with timeless child and the alt universe thing then what if this is alt Davros. An alternative Davros creating Daleks but he never had the accident, this making him more lethal than he was previously. RTD isn't pushing agendas, and he doesn't hate Dr Who and it's fans. He is literally a fan himself! You can see the way his eyes light up when he talks Dr who. All he is saying is, let's be more inclusive. If anyone was pushing agendas it was chinballs and boy was it forced. There good writing where you barely even notice or care that there's an "agenda" because the story and plot make sense and the characters get good development and then there's bad writing where it's like "hi I'm this, did you know I'm this, and that too also climate change sucks and we should do something about it right now but first let me explain some things to you about this and that?" Every 5 minutes. RTD has good writing. In 2005 era, there's subtle lines that include non-binary folks and trans people, the LGBTQ+ community and even lines that challenge racism. My mind tracks back to The Shakespeare Code for that one. Anyways the point is, if you are butthurt that ONE character just changed an aspect of themselves which isn't their whole schtick and personality, what RTD is saying is, maybe the show isnt for you and enjoy what you did watch before and so sorry you can't move past that. 😊

Some sad people will always find a way to make themselves the victim. Crying about progessive people _"shoving an agenda down our throats"_ . Nah bro, that's a _you_ issue. Doctor Who has always been very progressive. Yes, Chibnall did it awfully because he seems to struggle writing good Doctor Who in general. I have full confidence in Davies doing it in a way that seems tasteful and organic. Also pretty hypocritical to cry about the Davros situation. It's okay if he's a wheelchair user, but not okay if he's an able bodied cishet white man?! You're spitting big words on how you've always been fine with all the character choices, but seem to drop the act as soon as the villain is retconned into something that you (seemingly) are. Obviously, it's a weird choice to retcon him. But the reasoning is fairly simple. On its own, it's not bad if a wheelchair-using character is the villain. But it's weird messaging when the ONLY wheelchair using character is the villain. There's plenty of cishet white men in other roles, so it's obviously fine to have a cishet white man as a villain. Maybe there are more notable characters in wheelchairs that i just missed though.

Lmao get mad gammon

It was absolutely abhorrent what was done to Dr Who, under Chibnel. They just completely sabotaged it, making it an endless PC show, with an important historical character almost every episode, forcing it down your throat every week. Ignoring the fact that the Dr cannot ever be female as it’s firmly established that they’re a normal person until they turn into a timelord. It worked for the master because they’ve always been a law unto themselves. Bring back the Dr that should be and have occasional historical crossovers. Also, bring back Torchwood.

>I'm not here for the human stuff Bad take

This video is incredibly sad. Deciding that a showrunner (who you admit contributed to one of the greatest eras of doctor who) hates the show and hates fans based on... What exactly? That he isn't bigoted? That he doesn't want to use his time with the show to go back and erase bits you don't like? Honestly cancel culture these days... You can't do anything without snowflakes like you getting up in arms

Just astonishing how disjointed and nonsensical your arguments are. If you hate new Doctor Who, congratulations, there's a whole heap of Doctor Who that is black and white, with straight white men as heroes, and all sorts of "other" people are villains so I hope you enjoy that. Please do not drag us all back to the 20th Century with you, most of us love Russel T Davies and celebrate the way he brought Doctor Who gloriously into the 21st Century and continues to update and rework the show to keep it relevant and keep it alive. There's no point in closing your eyes and pretending the "agendas" you don't like don't exist, because you'll spend the rest of your life in total darkness, so just lighten up and enjoy Doctor Who, or don't; that's your right 🤷