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Ryobi 4v USB Lithium Rachet!? Is it Better than Milwaukee M12!??

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Daily Dose of Tools

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@S4NORICE
@S4NORICE 8 ай бұрын
The big misconception of these ratchet tools is people need to understand is they are NOT buying an impact tool. I see a lot of bad reviews complaining of their lack of power, and they are simply using the tool incorrectly. The ratchet mechanism allows the user to use leverage to crack a fastener loose, or torque a fastener tight as you would with a non electric/pneumatic mechanical ratchet. The trigger is only used when the fastener is loose to speed up zipping it in or out. I have used the m12 non brushless ratchet since it was released probably over a decade ago, long before the brushless model was offered. I haven’t used my air ratchet since! It is my most beloved tool. It has finally come to the end of its days and I will likely be replacing it with the ryobi for the cost point. Again, these ratchets are a time saving driving tool, not an impact. If you goal is to break tight bolts loose or tighten to a high torque spec with the trigger, you are using the wrong tool.
@JoseGarcia-bu1dr
@JoseGarcia-bu1dr 8 ай бұрын
That is the biggest complaint on our jobsites, and once you explain to the other guys how to properly use these things they absolutely love them. It's always dumbfounded me that people expect tools to do a job they're not designed for.
@MjV-jd2lo
@MjV-jd2lo 4 ай бұрын
@@JoseGarcia-bu1dr No RYOBI should have expected that we are idiots and need to engineer the rachet power tool around us.
@canaantravis
@canaantravis 3 ай бұрын
Don’t speak reason to them, they simply WANT to shit on ryobi 😂
@S4NORICE
@S4NORICE 2 ай бұрын
@@MjV-jd2lo and then this compact driving tool becomes a large impact tool. There is no way around that. Milwaukee does have an m12 angle impact driver tool (#2564-20) which is similar to the geometry of their cordless ratchet, however it solely an impact driver that can fit in tight spaces, it does not ratchet. When using the battery powered ratchets, It is not difficult to use arm strength+leverage to crack a fastener loose or to give its final snug. They still save a ton of time when using them as intended.
@youcanthide004
@youcanthide004 Ай бұрын
yup / Nut runner not nut buster!
@1hjehje
@1hjehje 7 ай бұрын
Many years ago I used to work as an autobody repairman and I would have gotten a lot of use out of one of these ratchets. I had an air ratchet that was very handy, but it was heavy and a bit on the clumsy side as the air hose always got in the way. The lack of torque is in some ways a good thing. Too much torque can easy overtighten small fasteners and these days that's even more important when so many plastic parts are involved. Thank you for the video.
@mrmalicious578
@mrmalicious578 5 ай бұрын
Work in a body shop now and everyone has these small Milwaukee ratchets including me nice for wheel wells and all the really annoying tight spaces
@jonaustin262
@jonaustin262 10 ай бұрын
This is perfect for those diy and for me in my road box I do love the battery size and not in the way as others
@mikej5959
@mikej5959 9 ай бұрын
Having an electric ratchet that can break torque on nuts is nice for those hard to reach spaces. That said it will get the job done.
@JJJobson
@JJJobson 2 ай бұрын
I have two Milwaukees and two Kimos. They both do what they are supposed to do. The new riobis will be fine as well. As long as u use them as they are supposed to be used. I like it
@grantdeisig1360
@grantdeisig1360 8 ай бұрын
As a tradesmen, the thought of having a small cordless ratchet in my pocket intrigues me. But I don't know if this ratchet is really all that "small", especially when compared to the M12 line. My other concern is just how much leverage it can take before something breaks. I just might have to try one of these out for a bit to see how I like it as a quick supplementary tool.
@m.roberts2877
@m.roberts2877 3 ай бұрын
May as well just use regular ratchet no battery
@grantdeisig1360
@grantdeisig1360 3 ай бұрын
@@m.roberts2877 yeah, that's the traditional way. I bought one and I'm pretty happy with it. It was under powered when I first got it, but I found out that the tension and grease in the head was the culprit, I took it apart, cleaned it and oiled it and now (with a few hours on it) its broke right in and works great. It can also handle a lot of leverage, despite my concern. It's also about 2/3rds the size of my M12.
@m.roberts2877
@m.roberts2877 3 ай бұрын
@grantdeisig1360 thats good inteli willl lubydube mine, something needs to help it i was hopinv for more torgue abd the 50 ft pounds was all i noticed lol but thats you not the ratchet , mine want break nothin loose on it own not even low torque oil pan gaskets , but will try your advice , thanks
@Jbyrd75901
@Jbyrd75901 9 ай бұрын
It should be a $29 tool, not a $79 or even a $49’tool. I can’t believe they have a 4 volt line.
@Dailydoseoftools
@Dailydoseoftools 9 ай бұрын
Agreed, some of the lights have finally come down to $29 but they were all $49 which is just way to much. I guess because all Milwaukee lights made by TTI are all $89 plus they think they are undercutting the market at their price.
@m.roberts2877
@m.roberts2877 3 ай бұрын
Its a POS if was 5 $
@Tom--Ace
@Tom--Ace Ай бұрын
Actually, it's a great tool. But you have to realise the low torque is the WHOLE POINT. it's for use on sensitive fasteners where you don't want to use the 18v tools. The ryobi 18v ratchet is the all rounder
@mikej5959
@mikej5959 9 ай бұрын
Having an electric ratchet that can break torque on nuts is nice for those hard to reach spaces. That said it will get the job done.
@bernitup6492
@bernitup6492 4 ай бұрын
I see this being useful to run spark plugs after hand threading them cause it will not have too much torque to damage anything. I have always been afraid of using a powered ratchet when installing spark plugs cause the last thing you need is a damaged thread.
@DarksouIjah
@DarksouIjah 4 ай бұрын
Nice review. I have one arriving to me which I got for free, so I'm excited to use it to mostly use on the screw/bolts that holds the skid plate of vehicles when I do my own oil changes.
@williamrobinson4265
@williamrobinson4265 5 ай бұрын
great review of this and comparison! you explained the design philosophy and application perfectly I 100% blame RYOBI for insufficient/false advertising to sell extra units at the cost of negative user experience! very bad idea imo because they now have more unhappy customers than usual.... but if they had clearly stated how this unique tool was meant to be used people would LOVE it RYOBI could learn a thing or two from business school
@mrlautomotive712
@mrlautomotive712 Ай бұрын
With the 8Nm torque it should be voided. It’s a toy. I use SP 3/8 and Milawukee 1/2 and have no problem to loose most of the nuts and bolts. The S/P 3/8” is 12V and it breaks the M6 bolts if you aren’t careful.
@Tom--Ace
@Tom--Ace Ай бұрын
8nm is an advantage, not a con. Until we get ratchets with adjustable Max torque levels (not just a trigger), the bigger tools always risk stripping small stuff. The 8nm is awesome for small fasteners without risk of stripping. My 18v ryobi ratchets are way more powerful, but especially the 75nm strips thr crap out of stuff if you're not careful. For tightening anything m8 and below, id rather just use this You don't want to have to deal with replacing weird m10 or m8 fasteners on your gearbox in situ, because your M12 or 18v ratchet overtightened because you pressed the trigger a little too much, or thr paddle got turned more turning up the power, etc. Especially on something like a maserati. The 8nm of this thing is perfect for "wind it on in a weird spot you can't see and then hand tighten some more" Having said that, I'd love a "1 tool does it all" but none of them, even the Milwaukees, do that - because you only have a lame trigger to limit torque, not actual torque presets. So the best solution to date is a workhorse 50nm ratchet, an extended reach high power 75nm ratchet, and a light touch 8nm ratchet, all for less money than a Milwaukee M12 fuel. Works for me!
@mrlautomotive712
@mrlautomotive712 Ай бұрын
@@Tom--Ace everyone who starts the fasteners by hand first has not such problems. But, I agree with you for the light furniture assembly it’s sufficient.
@Tom--Ace
@Tom--Ace 3 күн бұрын
​@@mrlautomotive712no, they don't. I start all fasteners by hand. Always. But while it's popular for "pro" mechanics to just over tighten and ruin everything with power tools (150+nm on lug nuts anyone?)and you often find the "legacy" of their work everywhere (broken and stretched fasteners and components), for those WHO ACTUALLY GIVE A SHIT (eg working on your own vehicle), even a 50nm ratchet is simply too much for tightening anything smaller than m10, let alone the many many sensitive fastener assemblies on a car (anything plastic, anything in aluminium, etc). Again, 8nm is a huge advantage here - I've used it a ton on my maserati gransport now and the ability to just tighten without worrying about stripping stuff is a huge benefit, not a con! For anything bigger or that needs higher torque, I reach for my 18v ryobi and extended reach ryobi, which go to 50nm and 75nm (that latter one is a beast). But my go to is this little 4v ratchet because whether it's interior trim, plastic outside trim, spark plug or engine bolts (aluminium engine), m10 or smaller fasteners, components that are plastic such as air filter assemblies, or even drain plug and crush washer assemblies, because I am working on my own car and WILL suffer the consequences later if stuff is stretched, broken or overtightened, this low torque tool is INVALUABLE compared to even the 50nm class ratchets. So yeah, it's a huge pro. Maybe not to a "pro" mechanic smashing everything with torque knowing no one will check their work and it won't be their problem down the line, who just wants to spin stuff on two to three times the specified torque spec and be done with it (after all, smashing on a drain plug with the 50nm instead of the specified 25nm is unlikely to cause an immediate problem, and the premature wear and destruction of the threaded assembly won't be tied back to that mechanic - but if they tighten to 25nm and there is a leak, as there is a greater risk at the proper torque, the mechanic WILL hear about it. So they are biased to overtighten). But to a diligent owner doing work better than a mechanic, who wants to make sure they torque things right - yeah its a great tool
@Tom--Ace
@Tom--Ace 3 күн бұрын
​@mrlautomotive712 I should clarify that I don't have a high opinion of most mechanics - I appreciate they need to rush as time is money, but they are often lazy and incompetent, breaking things through cutting corners (especially overtightening), not following proper procedure and then covering up their mistakes and work if errors are made because they think no one will ever see it. Here's a list of errors I found on just the 3 cars I've owned in the last 10 years: (Alfa 156, Alfa gtv, maserati gransport) 1) this year, found front lower suspension arm bolt COMPLETELY loose as the wheel alignment place forgot to tighten. 2) anti seize on lug nuts with lug nuts tightened to over 150nm+ absolutely every time I get tires changed 3) on my Alfa gtv the mechanic held my car for 6 months to do a clutch job and change coil overs - he never installed the coil overs or refunded the money prepaid to him, kept saying he'd ordered them but ended up admitting he'd lied. He did do the clutch, which was dragging right from installation. I was pissed to say the least. 4) another mechanic that did the brakes on my first car forgot to put back mounting bolts on my brake callipers! Yep, accident waiting to happen. 5) after another driver scraped my Gtv (not at fault), the paint place, despite having the colour code and instructions, failed to use the right colour primer or enough coats. The paint subsequently had a dark shadow in it under direct sunlight. Had to be sprayed again. 6) innumerable broken and missing bolts and items on all cars over years or maintenance - generally due to overtorquing. 7) failure to lubricate as per maintenance schedule, leading to stupid issues like stuck bonnet, sticking door lock, etc - I ended up learning to lube and solve these problems myself, as asking to have them lubed never solved the issue (it took me 5 minutes with white lithium grease). 8) skipped work and lies about what was done. Thankfully less common on my car, but an issue on my girlfriends Hyundai i30. I could go on.. And this is just from the last 10 years! So yeah, for a pro smashing substandard stuff out in a garage, a Milwaukee 50nm monster will work great for everything. And I like the tools, they have their place - this is not a knock on a 50nm ratchet, which is great for m12+ bolts. For a savvy owner wanting to make sure stuff is done right - a low torque tool is invaluable to avoid costly and time consuming overtorquing damage on anything m10 and smaller, however! If you don't believe me, try using a ryobi extended reach or other ratchet genuinely putting out 75nm+ on 10 or 20 plastic trim fasteners - without stretching, let alone stripping, any of the assemblies. Even at low speed, the torque these tools put out makes it way too easy to strip stuff that needs torque in inch, not foot lbs. Frankly, even the 4v ryobi was way too strong at full power for many trim assemblies, but careful use of the trigger makes it much easier to ensure nothing is stripped on an 8nm tool than an 80nm tool
@davidtru4529
@davidtru4529 11 ай бұрын
I hope Milwaukee will make something similar.
@Dailydoseoftools
@Dailydoseoftools 11 ай бұрын
Would definitely be cool to see them expand the Red lithium like up from just flashlights!
@southsidetom
@southsidetom 7 ай бұрын
Just use a 1/4 inch impact driver with a socket adapter. It will always break loose nuts on bike work.
@charlschuck6
@charlschuck6 11 ай бұрын
Thank you for the informative video nice wow it’s almost the same size of the fast m12 ratchet. What’s the warranty on ryobi tools like ? I feel Milwaukee is superior but also you pay as customer pay upfront w out a consent lol the warranty but do have more quality . Overall the ratchet of ryobi seems not so bad I did order once a aftermarket electric 12v ratchet and I tried using on 10mm bolt and didn’t do nothin but it felt down and the whole housing of the ratchet “fake metal or mix of cheaper metal housing broke “and that’s when I moved to Milwaukee glad this one look much better and it’s a brother of Milwaukee brand somehow . Is it lighter than the m12 fast ratchet or about the same since it has a brushed motor . I just saw the newest Milwaukee beast all in one insider 💸399$ no way but I’ll be more for heavy ship users that need to use in more tight areas and need to reach more deeper areas , but that can’t be compare so much against the 69$ ryobi today . I just need 1/4 ratchet for more small plastic car parts. And motorcycle repairs
@Dailydoseoftools
@Dailydoseoftools 11 ай бұрын
I definitely could recommend the 1/4 version of the Ryobi to you for small plastics! It would be perfect for that. Not to much power that you could break something but would also save you a lot of time! The Ryobi stuff comes with a. 3yr warranty.
@ahumanbeing6875
@ahumanbeing6875 Ай бұрын
Great review.
@DarkWoodPicks
@DarkWoodPicks 5 ай бұрын
Hate Ryobi. But i bought one cause it's $60. Plan on using it at work, though i don't use a ratchet often so should last a long while.
@gk7588
@gk7588 11 ай бұрын
Where’d you get the Ryobi ratchet? Are they in Home Depot’s yet? And what’s the weight difference between the Ryobi and M12 high speed? Big diffence?
@Dailydoseoftools
@Dailydoseoftools 11 ай бұрын
I got it from homedepot and yes the Ryobi is actually much lighter
@TheProCut17
@TheProCut17 9 ай бұрын
good stuff I'm gonna pick one of these up
@bernymmusic551
@bernymmusic551 9 ай бұрын
nice video man, thank you 👍🏽
@latindoggy8059
@latindoggy8059 11 ай бұрын
Great video
@Dailydoseoftools
@Dailydoseoftools 11 ай бұрын
Hey I’m new to the content creation world so I really appreciate that! I’m hoping they get better and better as I progress so thanks for stopping in 🙏🍻
@lukas______
@lukas______ 7 ай бұрын
Are you technically allowed to use it as a ratchet to break a bolt or is that going to damage the motor?
@kwitmeh3
@kwitmeh3 6 ай бұрын
they say its rated to 50ft lb manual torque
@Tom--Ace
@Tom--Ace 3 күн бұрын
You are supposed to use it manually first. It is a ratchet, the motor is not damaged or engaged when using manually (up to the specified limit of 50ft lbs manual torque) . You first loosen manually, then use the motor to take off. Do the opposite to put on (being careful not to overtighten, which is much easier with this low torque tool)
@teamlows
@teamlows Ай бұрын
That’s not an impact tho
@spawnandbatman6975
@spawnandbatman6975 11 ай бұрын
Great if you already own ryobi products. I’ve owned Milwaukee stuff for a little while so that’s what works best for me.
@DavidStrchld
@DavidStrchld 11 ай бұрын
I'm in the Ryobi line and still use some of their old blue tools on new batteries and that is a huge selling point for me (I just threw away some other brand battery tools as their batteries are long obsolete, though the tools still are usable). However looking at smaller cordless ratchets I am debating, as there is really no reason to stay Ryobi since it's a different battery line and may be a good opportunity to explore other options.
@DavidStrchld
@DavidStrchld 11 ай бұрын
(also see update below) I wanted to say I bit the bullet and went for the M12 line for my ratcheting needs, with a combo kit that got me a fuel impact and fuel hammer drill in that line (as I could use a second compact drill/impact driver set). This gave me a chance to do a little comparison between the M12 Fuel and the 18v brushless/compact Ryobi series for both drill and impact driver.. I actually was surprised with the results, both tools are almost the same sizes and weights, though the Ryobi has that large battery footprint. The M12 hammer drill feels heavier. I assume it's the extra weight for the hammer that the Ryobi does not have . My expectations was that they would be similar with the M12 slightly edging the Ryobi out, my results were actually opposite (see update below, as this is no longer accurate). The M12 impact struggled to loosen lugs nuts tightened by the Ryobi impact but could do it (this is a mistake see update below the M12 won!), the Ryobi had much less trouble loosening the lug nuts from the M12, though still could struggle at times. For this I'd say the Ryobi was not far above the M12, but comfortably so. For the drill, again the Ryobi just felt more like it had more to give, but the difference was slight, less so then the impact test I'd say. Overall I have to say that I feel I would have been happier with an additional Ryobi compact drill/impact set as my batteries were all compatible, and the size difference is not great and I do believe the Ryobi feels better in the hand. However the main reason was for the ratchet which I am happy to have and also try the different line. *UPDATE*, I discovered I was using the M12 impact driver on level 2, and it had a level 3, major difference. The Ryobi really struggled to loosen what the M12 tightened, and quite frankly I expected to shear the driver bit with the extra the M12 was putting out. M12 did much more then the 18V Ryobi Brushless compact impact driver. Perhaps the drill as a mode 3 also I have to find.
@Jbyrd75901
@Jbyrd75901 9 ай бұрын
It’s a different battery than the 18+.
@DavidStrchld
@DavidStrchld 9 ай бұрын
All Ryobi batteries fare interchangeable with all Ryobi tools@@Jbyrd75901 . There are some cases where some newer batteries will work better in newer (HP) tools but everything works with everything in the line from 20+ years ago. All that is required s the tool run on 18V, it does not matter if it's 18V, 18V+, 18V HP, as long as it's 18 it's good.
@IRoYaILTY
@IRoYaILTY 8 ай бұрын
Honestly I couldn’t justify the price for the Milwaukee. I have a ton of 12v tools (multi tool, screw gun, hackzall, circ saw, band saw, you name it) and 15+ batteries but tool only even non fuel is gonna cost you $150. I don’t need it to be that crazy though I’m really only using for little stuff around the house and changing my oil. So for $50 I couldn’t pass up on it. Now I use it all the same as a right angle fastener driver. I’m my line of work I have to put screws in the craziest of places so it’s really come in handy
@ignaciobecerra1301
@ignaciobecerra1301 9 ай бұрын
The Ryobi is $30 for Christmas deals at Home Depot
@Dailydoseoftools
@Dailydoseoftools 9 ай бұрын
Link? I’m not seeing that price anywhere
@rashaansmith1978
@rashaansmith1978 9 ай бұрын
​@@Dailydoseoftoolshe made that up😂😂😂😂
@TheProCut17
@TheProCut17 9 ай бұрын
the ratchet is $49 @@Dailydoseoftools
@ignaciobecerra1301
@ignaciobecerra1301 9 ай бұрын
@@rashaansmith1978who made it up? I put $30 by accident they’re $40 with all the tool deals they have going on
@user-id9ou2np8g
@user-id9ou2np8g 8 ай бұрын
@@rashaansmith1978 it was a Black Friday special. I considered one myself for repairs under the dash of cars that don't need much torque, but decided to stick with my mini hand ratchets due to the size and it lacks torque for anything under the hood.
@joshc63111
@joshc63111 11 ай бұрын
The m12 is a 12v system ryobi is a 4v, you are comparing apples to oranges
@Dailydoseoftools
@Dailydoseoftools 11 ай бұрын
Did you even watch the video??
@bobmartin9871
@bobmartin9871 8 ай бұрын
Looks really puny
@marknichols5827
@marknichols5827 9 ай бұрын
I can't believe you are actually trying to compare Ryobi to Milwaukee. They each have their own places; Pro ( or someone who likes the best no matter the cost) uses Milwaukee and DIY uses Ryobi. Everything I own is Milwaukee but I bought my son Ryobi for Christmas years ago (good enough for his use). Every holiday or birthday I need to get him new batteries as they don't last like Milwaukee. Next you're going to compare Harbor Freight with Snap-on?!
@byronho7280
@byronho7280 9 ай бұрын
Calm down man. It’s just a video. Did you even watch the end of video?
@m.roberts2877
@m.roberts2877 3 ай бұрын
Biggest POS MADE , very disappointing it literally want bresk anything loose on its own but i saw 50 on the package but didnt pay attention to the real details LMAO THIS TOOL IS A JOKE SHOW TRY AGAIN RYOBI THERE OTHER WRATCHETS ARE TO BIG AND BULKY FOR TIGHT SPACES FROM THE 18V BATTERY ON THE END LOVE RYOBI ATLEAST WHEN IM NOT DEALING WITH REGISTRY ON THERE Fd up website , or using this usb jokeshow ratchet
@Tom--Ace
@Tom--Ace 3 күн бұрын
Get good mate. First off, it's not an impact, second, it's a ratchet that you're supposed to manually break loose with first, and finally, it's geniuses like you who overtighten and strip everything
@m.roberts2877
@m.roberts2877 2 күн бұрын
Well when they put 50 ft lbs on the package and my dumbass dont read its manually omg wht even put it if its manually, and no shit i knew it wasnt a fuckin impact oompaloompa's but for the the dam money i exoected more than a glorified ryobi vibrator , but now that i know im dealing with a pussy ratchet with no balls , ZERO , I can baby it they should put these in pink so there ya go ,
@Mr19860823
@Mr19860823 11 ай бұрын
ryobi is trash
@Dailydoseoftools
@Dailydoseoftools 11 ай бұрын
Dang why do you say that bro?
@domrod1579
@domrod1579 9 ай бұрын
I wouldn’t call it trash. I use Milwaukee for work and Ryobi at home. They work great for home use.
@Mr19860823
@Mr19860823 2 ай бұрын
its should be a damn kids toy, ryobi really needs to stop making these bs tools
@Tom--Ace
@Tom--Ace 3 күн бұрын
I love it because I understand how a ratchet is meant to be used. You don't. This is a tool for sensitive assemblies and low torque, where 50nm would destroy the assembly. Eg plastic trim. You don't want a 50nm ratchet torquing down a 15nm spark plug
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