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0:00 Intro
0:50 Zen3+
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2:22 Performance vs. Wattage test
3:23 The Rest of Intel's Lineup
5:00 Battery Life
5:45 RDNA2
6:35 Conclusion
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@conscience_cat1146
@conscience_cat1146 2 жыл бұрын
Have to say I love the testing methodology here, equalising the TDP on these laptops was a much better way to compare these chips than previous attempts.
@lucasrem1870
@lucasrem1870 2 жыл бұрын
How do Windows Titles run on Mobile, mobile graphics? run tests? I need Wall Power Now! never been any issue, Watt?
@wanglee21
@wanglee21 2 жыл бұрын
Funny how they tried to give Intel an equal playing field but Intel failed horribly. Imagine if they didn't the result would be so bad for Intel.
@joshjlmgproductions3313
@joshjlmgproductions3313 2 жыл бұрын
@@topV85 Most likely that battery sizes were different. The laptops were different sizes, so comparing battery life wouldn't have been fair.
@najeebshah.
@najeebshah. 2 жыл бұрын
Nah, should be at highest settings
@mduckernz
@mduckernz 2 жыл бұрын
@@najeebshah. That doesn't reflect typical use so it's actually not very useful
@piw69
@piw69 2 жыл бұрын
I was like "ok, that CPUs numbers are nice...". And then you showed battery life, and GPU performance... GOD DAMN! Kudos AMD!
@eisenklad
@eisenklad 2 жыл бұрын
you can say AMD last longer.. if you know what i mean... and yes, i too was blown away...way more efficient. so much for intel P and E core strategy...
@theairaccumulator7144
@theairaccumulator7144 2 жыл бұрын
@@eisenklad shit architecture is still shit even if it's split into 2 types
@propersod2390
@propersod2390 2 жыл бұрын
@@theairaccumulator7144 10nm vs 6 btw
@jfolz
@jfolz 2 жыл бұрын
@@propersod2390 they renamed it to "Intel 7" a while ago. No measurement of either process node is 6 or 10 nm anways. It's all just marketing.
@KibitoAkuya
@KibitoAkuya 2 жыл бұрын
@@propersod2390 Intel 10 is roughly the same real sizes as TSMC 7/6
@eldibs
@eldibs 2 жыл бұрын
AMD's approach here is really smart. Instead of pushing hard in the performance race, they took the time to ask themselves "What do laptop manufacturers and users actually want and need out of a laptop CPU?" and built that.
@bensnow421
@bensnow421 2 жыл бұрын
Ya and there will also be a more performant version of the 6900 which might give intel a run for its money in raw performance
@pronewbofficial
@pronewbofficial 2 жыл бұрын
It took years to get there, though. Five years ago, a battery-life-optimized laptop was dirt slow.
@theholt2ic219
@theholt2ic219 2 жыл бұрын
This is some true shit. Most gaming lab top users don’t want a desktop replacement. They want long lasting battery, good performance on the go, be good enough to casually game, lighter laptops, and a system that can stay quiet.
@samuelwhite3173
@samuelwhite3173 2 жыл бұрын
TSMC built it. AMD designed it.
@iClone101
@iClone101 2 жыл бұрын
I remember with the 3000 series mobile chips when Intel was accusing AMD of "fabricating their testing numbers" because the chips perform worse when running on battery. And I was sitting there thinking, "isn't that what most people would want them to do?" If you really need that much performance, you can just plug into a wall. And if your task demands that much performance, the battery probably wouldn't have held up anyways.
@TheBlackWaltz
@TheBlackWaltz 2 жыл бұрын
The battery life is absurd. I was expecting around 10-15% longer. That jump was absurd. The RDNA is crazy good too. 85 FPS in a brand new title with intergrated graphics is unheard of.
@trignite
@trignite 2 жыл бұрын
It's absurd because the test is flawed. The 6900 has hardware accelerated AV1 decoding, the 5900 doesn't. They likely didn't check the KZfaq video format, not all videos on KZfaq are AV1, but the ones that are would ruin this test without a disclaimer..
@AemondTomahawk
@AemondTomahawk 2 жыл бұрын
@@trignite how do you know that the video they tested with was running on AV1 format ??
@trignite
@trignite 2 жыл бұрын
@@AemondTomahawk Because it's literally the only thing that explains such an absurd result. The screen alone would use a lot of battery during the hours the test was running. It's not solely going to be determined by making the cpu a little bit more efficient. 2x gain in battery life watching youtube is a lot more than what a 2x more efficient cpu could provide because it is not the only component being used.
@IWILL360URMOM
@IWILL360URMOM 2 жыл бұрын
@The hero we deserve lmfao
@blue4059
@blue4059 2 жыл бұрын
It is likely flawed, Dave2D review got a 20 minute jump from last year's G14 laptop to this year's model. LTT's battery benchmark is largely inconsistent and also not true to real life usage. Ultrabookreview has the most accurate laptop battery test on the internet which is congruent with Dave2D's results.
@lyianx
@lyianx 2 жыл бұрын
11 hour battery life is amazing! Id easily take the trade of minuscule performance bump for much better battery life (and better GPU performance). Well worth it.
@confusedforreal1534
@confusedforreal1534 2 жыл бұрын
same,
@MTGeomancer
@MTGeomancer 2 жыл бұрын
That's just playing a video, FYI. If you play a game, that battery life will be wayyyyyyyyy shorter.
@TheFibie007
@TheFibie007 2 жыл бұрын
@@MTGeomancer His statement still holds true with that.
@nayan.punekar
@nayan.punekar 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheFibie007 maybe
@utrak
@utrak 2 жыл бұрын
Hahaha "well worth it" you say, have you seen the price? Holy fucking shit
@juanussher5243
@juanussher5243 2 жыл бұрын
I love how you're using the shop as a set, with the lighting and everything. A great alternative to the other sets!
@AFlyingSwive
@AFlyingSwive 2 жыл бұрын
it's really fitting for Alex
@thunderturbine8860
@thunderturbine8860 2 жыл бұрын
@@AFlyingSwive that's true 🙂
@thunderturbine8860
@thunderturbine8860 2 жыл бұрын
@Juan Ussher agreed. The set choice was good, plus the lighting was a good also
@amos_bebeh
@amos_bebeh 2 жыл бұрын
I'm guessing they ran out of sets 😂
@dabigbadwolf5081
@dabigbadwolf5081 2 жыл бұрын
But why is he looking at the camera like he's peeing himself rn? 😂
@kovmenius
@kovmenius 2 жыл бұрын
At first I was like "wait, are you really going to compare 17" laptop with 14"?" and then I was just blown away by how powerful that AMD is. In that body size. With that battery. Just wow! Can you compare it's productivity scores with M1 Pro/Max chips?
@rawlalli
@rawlalli 2 жыл бұрын
I compared 5900HS vs old M1 vs M1 max. Tested only in software that have native support for both M1 (without rosetta) and x86. Old M1 average 1.5 times slower than 5900HS and sometimes 2 times slower (100% multicore workload). M1 Max trading blows with 5900HS: lighter workload M1 Max faster and heavy workload 5900HS is faster. But M1 Max used less power everywhere compared to 5900HS. So 6900HS probably slightly faster than M1 Max but still using more power.
@ETin6666
@ETin6666 2 жыл бұрын
Jarrod's tech has a video on it. M1 wins some, 6900HS wins some. There is no contest in gaming as expected, but the M1 is still crazy efficient since it isn't an x86 chip.
@dannyvfilms
@dannyvfilms 2 жыл бұрын
Fantastic that you were able to try and quantify the “performance per watt” claims of each laptop. I hope somebody makes a multi platform benchmark so Apple and Windows computers can be compared at scale.
@nicewhenearnedrudemostlyel489
@nicewhenearnedrudemostlyel489 2 жыл бұрын
Pro tip: stop waiting for ltt to show you. It exists, used daily, available on the internet and in every manufacturer's engineering department. It's one of many papers used to bludgeon eachother with marketting on their boxes.
@JimIBobIJones
@JimIBobIJones 2 жыл бұрын
@@nicewhenearnedrudemostlyel489 Third party testing is the only thing that is going to be truly reliable without actually owning one of each to compare. The marketing BS from the manufacturers is subjective and is based on "testing" artificial scenarios designed to be as favourable as possible to their own products. It would be harder to quantify real world performance v.s. on paper without seeing it being tested IRL in like-for-like tests. Just look at the "45w" claim from AMD on a chip that boosts to almost double that. The efficiency lead v.s. Intel is there but nowhere near as much as they claim, at least for gaming laptops. The performance comparisons also gets further complicated by how Alder Lake and the apple M1 uses "efficiency cores" to manage lower power workloads whereas AMD has increased power efficiency across the board. So the kind of artificial tests that show AMD advantage for efficiency may or may show a lead for AMD IRL. What I would really be interested in is battery life across a range of use case scenarios pitting Alder Lake v.s. Ryzen 6000 v.s. Apple M1.
@nicewhenearnedrudemostlyel489
@nicewhenearnedrudemostlyel489 2 жыл бұрын
@@JimIBobIJones that's all very good. And you're expecting this from ltt?
@nicewhenearnedrudemostlyel489
@nicewhenearnedrudemostlyel489 2 жыл бұрын
@@JimIBobIJones they did just here compare battery life of cpus... which don't have batteries unless it's a laptop... so it's really a laptop battery efficiency test...
@JimIBobIJones
@JimIBobIJones 2 жыл бұрын
@@nicewhenearnedrudemostlyel489 they also tested the chips at different wattage variations, which is pretty eye opening and would be missed by going off on paper stats. AMD wins low tdp whilst Intel wins higher tdp; I.e. if you want a desktop replacement better off going intel, for something in a more compact/thin and light or an ultrabook AMD is the better bet. If you went off manufacturer stats alone you wouldn't find this nuance.
@jonumand
@jonumand 2 жыл бұрын
Reminder: 6900HS is not AMDs best 6000 mobile APU. That'll be the 6980HX, found in bigger laptops
@mingyi456
@mingyi456 2 жыл бұрын
Judging from its performance, it should still be just under the 12900hk while consuming less power. Although this video did not cover single core performance, which I expect intel to still hold the lead. Edit : The first "it" refers to the 6900hs, the second refers to the 6980hx.
@Deinorius
@Deinorius 2 жыл бұрын
Edit: For everyone, who didn't get it. I'm talking about the relative performance gains for one chip with higher TDP. Intel did gain more performance with Tiger Lake relative to Ryzen 5000 and I expect this to happen with Alder Lake Rembrandt as well. This doesn't mean Rembrandt might look worse, it's just an aspect for different usages. Original: Don't expect too much. AMDs Zen ist well optimized for efficiency. So they will gain performance but not as much as they consume power. If they can gain well with setting higher TDP, the Zen3+ optimisations are even greater than I thought.
@antiwokehuman
@antiwokehuman 2 жыл бұрын
@@Deinorius wait. Did you even watch the video
@propersod2390
@propersod2390 2 жыл бұрын
@@antiwokehuman "tdp: 45W"... actual usage: 80W Soo efficient 😂🤡🤡🤡💅🏿
@nightwing8666
@nightwing8666 2 жыл бұрын
@@Deinorius This guy just got confused with AMD and Intel. What a joke lmao
@Frozander
@Frozander 2 жыл бұрын
11 hours on a windows laptop is just incredible to hear.
@javierortiz82
@javierortiz82 2 жыл бұрын
we're entering iPad territory now, it's insane.
@eulehund99
@eulehund99 2 жыл бұрын
On a high end laptop with good performance* A Pentium or Athlon Laptop will obviously hold much longer.
@aprofondir
@aprofondir 2 жыл бұрын
I mean we've had that for years,just not with gaming laptops
@youngjacuzzi3676
@youngjacuzzi3676 2 жыл бұрын
@@javierortiz82 lmao it’s funny how they getting excited over this shit jus because they finally learned something called optimization.
@Deinorius
@Deinorius 2 жыл бұрын
To be fair 11 h on Windows isn't really new you just had to research a lot. There were even 10th Gen Intel laptops achieving really good battery life. The remarkable thing here will be following things: Very good battery life should become more common with Rembrandt but it still needs to be realised by the manufacturers. If they don't engineer their products well... I don't know, why the former G14 couldn't reach even 6 h. I saw even over 10 h of battery life on the first G14 with Renoir. Anandtech back then found out, the dGPU haven't been deactivated. May be it happened here as well? The all around package by AMD just becomes better and better. I'm even curious, how USB4 implementation will be.
@daaara
@daaara 2 жыл бұрын
I love the chill presenting style in this video. The high-energy, edit-heavy style of some of the other videos is cool too, but sometimes a nice relaxed review hits really good, y'know?
@daphnegrass9579
@daphnegrass9579 2 жыл бұрын
Oh yeah.
@Tekzite
@Tekzite 2 жыл бұрын
I'm finding it amazing how AMD flipped the script and started teaching Intel some lessons.
@VRcompare
@VRcompare 2 жыл бұрын
AMD has been blowing it out of the water recently. Honestly, I'm really glad. It's brought the whole industry forward.
@Dazerath1
@Dazerath1 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed, the consumer loses out when there is no competition.
@Gromran
@Gromran 2 жыл бұрын
lol
@jberry1979
@jberry1979 2 жыл бұрын
With their cpu's....not so much with their gpus....the drivers are really holding them back.
@VRcompare
@VRcompare 2 жыл бұрын
@BoyWithADream Yeah, I spotted that one, seen that account around in comments before, so now I know why. Thanks for letting me know :)
@SarkariBoi
@SarkariBoi 2 жыл бұрын
Intel sad🌚🥲
@DJ_Level_3
@DJ_Level_3 2 жыл бұрын
So basically, Framework laptop with Ryzen 6000 is possible?
@jon4715
@jon4715 2 жыл бұрын
Holy grail. Hope they do it.
@pejgrio1809
@pejgrio1809 2 жыл бұрын
I think they're stuck with Thunderbolt, but I don't see any issues with that since it's mostly required for external GPUs only and USB 4 supports PCIe tunneling anyway.
@JirayD
@JirayD 2 жыл бұрын
@@pejgrio1809 Rembrandt can support Thunderbolt, provided Intel certifies them.
@pejgrio1809
@pejgrio1809 2 жыл бұрын
@@JirayD Well, good luck with that.
@adinugraha1276
@adinugraha1276 2 жыл бұрын
@@pejgrio1809 USB4 is a Thunderbolt 3 equivalent, Intel gave it to USB standardizing institution..
@footsorebird0365
@footsorebird0365 2 жыл бұрын
I really hope framework uses these new ryzen 6000’s. That would honestly be a dream for a casual user who doesn’t want a Mac.
@InDzienInTampa
@InDzienInTampa 2 жыл бұрын
The opening caption stealthfully put a monicle on my face. Rembrandt is one of my favorite boroque painters, too!
@Tallen79
@Tallen79 2 жыл бұрын
I was thinking of upgrading to Intel's 12gen. But I really think I need to hold out for the 6900x because, nice.
@yk_King2811
@yk_King2811 2 жыл бұрын
Same here
@samuelturner6020
@samuelturner6020 2 жыл бұрын
The new Ryzen desktop chips are gonna be 7000 series though.
@Timarice
@Timarice 2 жыл бұрын
@@samuelturner6020 and also a completely different beast than the 6000 series mobile
@mehuljain5916
@mehuljain5916 2 жыл бұрын
I'd see whose laptop is better price/performance i.e. intel arc + Intel or amd Radeon + amd then I'll make a choice
@gerhardaryawardana72
@gerhardaryawardana72 2 жыл бұрын
@@mehuljain5916 I think it'll be just like what's described in the video. If you want a beast gaming laptop with discrete GPU (basically a desktop replacement) and price is not an issue, go Intel. Anything else, go AMD. At least until Zen 4 is released, then you'll need to wait.
@ahscott2001
@ahscott2001 2 жыл бұрын
It’s so nice that we’ve gone from Intel Intel Intel to a competitive market with AMD and Apple now producing good chips.
@D3nn1s
@D3nn1s 2 жыл бұрын
Now all we need is apple selling m1s to everyone lol
@deadlyseven8008
@deadlyseven8008 2 жыл бұрын
But I don't think the m1 chip is design to run as efficient than other OS
@ciraey
@ciraey 2 жыл бұрын
@@deadlyseven8008 it'll probably run like shit for the price. it'll also probably end up costing a lot on a non apple computer; but Apple isn't gonna sell them anyways
@iClone101
@iClone101 2 жыл бұрын
@@ciraey M1s are also ARM chips, which create enough compatibility issues within macOS, and would not function with Windows whatsoever.
@maximme
@maximme 2 жыл бұрын
keep buying AMD until its dominate the market, then start buying whatever, Intel is still too dominant now. We need a vibrant and competitive market. EVERY LITTLE BIT helps.
@How23497
@How23497 2 жыл бұрын
It seems AMD has spotted the region in which they are unbeatable and decided to go all in on that
@sacrivice9045
@sacrivice9045 Жыл бұрын
Well said! Lesser watts = less money on electricity = more time on laptop battery
@Aditya-tt1ws
@Aditya-tt1ws 2 жыл бұрын
Loving the excellent battery life and RDNA 2 graphics! Glad I put off my laptop purchase to this year.
@shadowtheimpure
@shadowtheimpure 2 жыл бұрын
Wow, that is really efficient for that kind of performance. I'm looking forward to the ultra-compact 'NUC-clones' equipped with these R6000 chips. Give them a potent cooling solution and you'll have a monster in a box.
@lucasrem1870
@lucasrem1870 2 жыл бұрын
Why u use NUC, you develop Windows? why not black berry?
@shadowtheimpure
@shadowtheimpure 2 жыл бұрын
@@lucasrem1870 Huh? I was using 'NUC' to describe a form factor. I don't quite understand your question.
@thelegendaryklobb2879
@thelegendaryklobb2879 2 жыл бұрын
Mini PCs, not "NUC clones". I think the more generic term is better, rather than a specific brand one. These last years AMD has made its presence way bigger than Intel in the mini PC space thanks to the Ryzen APUs. The NUC brand is kinda dead (the new NUCs are no longer mini PCs, more like a bigger SFF ITX PC).
@timsenecal1727
@timsenecal1727 2 жыл бұрын
I own an asus PN50... and i can't wait to upgrade to an amd 6xxx version of it, GPU upgrade will be more than worth the trouble.
@flixelgato1288
@flixelgato1288 2 жыл бұрын
Windows based consoles. Though tbf we’ve already got Steam Deck for that.
@Kevin-rf9sx
@Kevin-rf9sx 2 жыл бұрын
It's so cool to see they really give Intel something to think about. So many years there was just no other Option then Intel because AMD was so far behind (after athlon times). Now it's fair game and every consumer benefits from it. Edit: damn never had so many likes. Thanks :D
@sahilbaori9052
@sahilbaori9052 2 жыл бұрын
Competition always benefits the customer... thats why you have lawsuits for monopoly companies(sometimes).
@tractordawg
@tractordawg 2 жыл бұрын
Hot take it was better when Intel was on top and AMD was basically dead. Now every generation leaves the past one in the dust making the jump huge. What were major complaints with all the newest games this past year oh yeah performance. But when Intel sold i7s as 4 cores no games had performance issues as the major complaint. The tight core count stacks gave consumers better options.
@Kevin-rf9sx
@Kevin-rf9sx 2 жыл бұрын
It's like a miracle AMD even survied so long. That's why the Comeback is even more impressive
@caiustox
@caiustox 2 жыл бұрын
Phenom were great too, the problem started when AMD couldn't make anything better. FX was embarrassing
@AtotehZ
@AtotehZ 2 жыл бұрын
You're not wrong, but this has been the case for a number of years now.
@TobyIKanoby
@TobyIKanoby 2 жыл бұрын
Kind of funny, I thought the E-cores would be a gimmick on desktops and only really interesting for laptops. Well... As of now. It is kind of the other way around.
@infinicky
@infinicky 2 жыл бұрын
You're sooo good at these comparisons! thank you. I'm really looking forward to the review next week.. I really NEED that new G14, can't wait.
@Cooe.
@Cooe. 2 жыл бұрын
Pro-tip. Get the RX 6700S model unless "maximum performance at ANY COST!" is absolutely CRITICAL for you, as it's just a NO-BRAINER level choice with it being DRAMATICALLY better value than the 6800S!!! This is because it's shockingly only ≈-5-15% slower than the flagship, but for a SIGNIFICANTLY cheaper price! This is also why I SERIOUSLY cannot even FATHOM why THAT wasn't the model Asus seeded to reviewers!... The R9 + 32GB + 6800S w/ AniMe Matrix display review model got absolutely RAILED ON for being way more expensive than previous G14's, while the R7 + 16GB + 6700S + normal display model was basically JUST AS FAST as the top spec one in real world user experience but for a much, MUCH lower & more similar to last-gen price!!!
@infinicky
@infinicky 2 жыл бұрын
@@Cooe. You're probably right! I would like a 6700S model WITH 32Gigs RAM though. And I was hoping for a suitable AniMe-less model in Europe, but can't find one yet. Guess they're really pushing that AniMe lid here.
@kbhasi
@kbhasi 2 жыл бұрын
Oh my. That level of power efficiency makes me wonder what'll be in store for the Ryzen 7000 series. (Edit: yes, I know the 7000 series will be made for desktop platforms)
@fabledorchid8410
@fabledorchid8410 2 жыл бұрын
Small sized nuclear reactor
@Berecutecu
@Berecutecu 2 жыл бұрын
RDNA 3
@morderus0033
@morderus0033 2 жыл бұрын
Light speed CPU
@twincitiesberrycompany8723
@twincitiesberrycompany8723 2 жыл бұрын
I'm sure it'll be countered by Intel 13th gen, which will then get a solid response from Ryzen 8000
@xruud24
@xruud24 2 жыл бұрын
@@twincitiesberrycompany8723 intel has no response on efficiency
@skara392
@skara392 2 жыл бұрын
My thoughts on rDNA2 APUs is that we could possibly see the end of the need for low budget GPUs since they may not be needed. Maybe that's why AMD put such little effort into the 6500XT?
@danieloberhofer9035
@danieloberhofer9035 2 жыл бұрын
"Such little effort" depends on your point of view. In essence, the 6500XT *is* a mobile GPU, with just enough additional CUs to make it desktop viable. Seriously, the mobile origin explains just about every shortcoming the 6500 has. Missing video-codecs? Wouldn't matter in a notebook, the APU has them. PCIe 4x4 - notebook spec. The list goes on and on. The only real showstopper that's not mobile related is the Vram. But AMD explained time and time again that PCIe 4x4 and only 4 Gigs of Vram are intended to make the cards absolute garbage for Ether-Mining. And guess what - they are! Making them the first cards in two years that you don't need to sell your firstborne for...
@amashaziz2212
@amashaziz2212 2 жыл бұрын
they put such little effore bcoz they wanted/had to use a laptop chip for the 6500 xt. which is why it has only 4 pcie lanes, no video encoding, etc.
@KaiserTom
@KaiserTom 2 жыл бұрын
There's a lot of natural advantages from having the GPU and CPU physically close together. The physical distance between the CPU and GPU has significant effect to latency and to bandwidth with how fast computers run nowadays. And to power and thus heat. Which has also become the major limiting factor. Minimizing those allows you to run more and faster. The main reason APUs have sucked before is that it was all one die. It required an entire dedicated production line of large dies with an entire CPU and GPU integrated together them. That absolutely sucks for yields and it has to be made cheap and generic to sell enough to justify that investment. Chiplets have completely changed that. You can now mass produce the same seperate CPU dies and GPU dies and paste them together as desired. This is great for yields because smaller dies survive quadratically more. Which means APUs can be cheaper per performance. And have a realistically powered GPU since you don't need to worry about if the massive size of the GPU will impact yield of the entire APU. You can instead focus on improving your few dedicated GPU lines you bin from and utilize those.
@companyoflosers
@companyoflosers 2 жыл бұрын
nah, low budget cpu's will always help performance a lot. unless they start making dedicated vram sticks and putting them on motherboards, integrated graphics will always be held back by having to share regular old ram which is much slower, and by the fact that integrated graphics share a cooling solution with the cpu. a dedicated gpu has its own cooling and faster ram type. if you take a processor with integrated graphics and compare it with the same cpu and a gpu equivalent of those integrated graphics, the setup with the dedicated gpu will always win by a significant margin.
@RM-el3gw
@RM-el3gw 2 жыл бұрын
@@danieloberhofer9035 problem is they made them bad for both mining.... And gaming. At least the RTX3050 can game decently, while it is still pretty bad at mining (not as bad as 6500XT) by design.
@stevenk1950
@stevenk1950 2 жыл бұрын
Love the little Rembrandt nerd-out on the intro.
@billy65bob
@billy65bob 2 жыл бұрын
0:10 that nice got me good, lol And now for our sponsor!
@sharpfang
@sharpfang 2 жыл бұрын
"The only explanation I have is they weren't lying" State of the computer hardware industry in one sentence.
@vraelbliz
@vraelbliz 2 жыл бұрын
The fact that ryzen laptop have a lot smaller footprint than intel while maintaining close performance say alot about AMD performance. Imagine if AMD laptop have the same wattage and cooling as intel one
@otavio30
@otavio30 2 жыл бұрын
That would be trash, i'd like same wattage and less cooling, so i can use it as a lap heater too
@afterSt0rm
@afterSt0rm 2 жыл бұрын
@@otavio30 That depends more on the cooling solution than the power as CPUs will turn almost 100% of the power draw into heat (valid to most electronics).
@kokoro_na_kaze
@kokoro_na_kaze 2 жыл бұрын
@@otavio30 that lap heater might just turn into a lap iron with less cooling
@loading2431
@loading2431 2 жыл бұрын
@@otavio30 don’t forget as a heater during the winter
@anomuumit
@anomuumit 2 жыл бұрын
Performance doesn't scale linearly with increasing power over the efficient range, which means you would be wasting watts for little gains in performance.
@etiennedud
@etiennedud 2 жыл бұрын
Such a well thought out review, really nice
@dragos-lucian
@dragos-lucian 2 жыл бұрын
You gotta appreciate the smooth subtle ads
@bigriff9946
@bigriff9946 2 жыл бұрын
i do think that cpu manufacturers should be aiming to build CPU's that are extrememly efficient and fast rather that intel's method of just throwing wattage at it
@batt3ryac1d
@batt3ryac1d 2 жыл бұрын
Can only cool so much throwing more wattage at it just makes your room hot and burns your legs if it's a laptop chip.
@orchishgrunt7888
@orchishgrunt7888 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed. AMD was in a similar situation about 8 years ago, but the market was very different then: Intel was in use by Apple, AMD was struggling with process, and they needed a CEO who understood the tech differently. AMD has Lisa Su, and Intel is under a state of self-reflection. But they don't want to lose a few years; they'll want to immediately strike back. As x86-64 users, we all win.
@orchishgrunt7888
@orchishgrunt7888 2 жыл бұрын
@@Malc180s Apple doesn't make general purpose computers. They make general purpose macs. Macs are great and they have fantastic engineering, with the catch that they pretty much must run MacOS and are basically unrepairable. Apple is probably worse than nVidia when it comes to documentation and support of non-Apple operating systems. But if one enjoys the Mac experience and the ecosystem, then there's nothing wrong with using a computer with the most widely installed and supported Unix-inspired OS in history.
@Daeyae
@Daeyae 2 жыл бұрын
They should do what AMD does and lie about the wattage
@sonicboy678
@sonicboy678 2 жыл бұрын
@@Daeyae This claim is based on what, exactly?
@samal90
@samal90 2 жыл бұрын
that battery life and boost to integrated GPU performance though O_O wow
@frank7353
@frank7353 2 жыл бұрын
The double video playback time makes absolutely no sense. It's very misleading. Judging from other reviews, LTT methodology must had serious problem.
@Nat569On
@Nat569On 2 жыл бұрын
@@frank7353 probably due to the fact that 6000 series has AV1 decode support while 5000 series didn't
@samal90
@samal90 2 жыл бұрын
@@frank7353 perhaps. But I read laptop mag review. He says great battery life but poor screen brightness. Then The Verge says the exact opposite. They praise the screen but wasn't impressed by battery life. I don't get it.
@catto9694
@catto9694 2 жыл бұрын
@@samal90 almost as if everyone got a limited time with laptop. 1 day is not enough to get a proper review of any laptop! And most of the the reviewers have no clue of what they're doing. All they know is mac good windows bad. I don't think many do any gaming other than for purpose of benchmarks.
@Candyman-Elite-Thunder
@Candyman-Elite-Thunder 2 жыл бұрын
@@frank7353 absolutely agree, I’ve seen countless estimates from other websites putting the 2021 battery life for video playback at 8-10 hours. There is no way that ltt should be getting half of that. There is definitely something wrong with their video playback test. Edit: I myself get 7-8 hours on 80% battery with normal usage including video playback, unless Linus is running it at like 60% battery or some seriously messed up setting there is no way it should be getting only 5 hours.
@texiphone
@texiphone 2 жыл бұрын
Just noticed someone highlighted the letter 'n' in the ting mobile screenshot! Can't unsee!
@bretspangler8717
@bretspangler8717 2 жыл бұрын
Great review, exactly the info I was looking for, so tired of endless charts reconfirming a point made early(gamers nexus /hardware unboxed) and a look at what laptops were intended for. Anyone looking for top performance won't be buying a laptop, and most people buying laptops are concerned with portability and battery life. Any true enthusiast who can afford it will have both, a killer PC and a light long life laptop, in an ideal world!
@CarthagoMike
@CarthagoMike 2 жыл бұрын
Don't you love it when there is finally some competition again in the cpu space! Now AMD, start making some low end chips again as well, instead of just the high end.
@TheCountess666
@TheCountess666 2 жыл бұрын
unfortunately AMD needs far more wafers from TSMC to be able to fully service the lower end market first.
@Sinaeb
@Sinaeb 2 жыл бұрын
@@geogmz8277 meanwhile in reality : high performance is 200$ more than intel's high performance.
@harshlarose6670
@harshlarose6670 2 жыл бұрын
Don't athlons exist?
@dedasdude
@dedasdude 2 жыл бұрын
this is a stupid comment. Amd's low end priced CPUs *are* better than intels mid range lol. get a ryzen 3
@Steellmor
@Steellmor 2 жыл бұрын
@@geogmz8277 What costs same as 12100 or especially 12100f? I'm not pro Intel but AMD actually abandoned lower end segment for a while.
@FishyFelix
@FishyFelix 2 жыл бұрын
Impressive gaming numbers from integrated graphics. Love my gaming, and I'm constantly on the go away from a wall socket. Steam Deck was going to be my gaming saviour... Might have to cancel reservation and get new AMD Radeon laptop.
@lucasrem1870
@lucasrem1870 2 жыл бұрын
will they sell for gaming laptops again, the AMD Ferrari was a long time ago, Alienware Nvidia mobile for gaming GPU???
@cosminmilitaru9920
@cosminmilitaru9920 2 жыл бұрын
@@lucasrem1870 rip battery life then.
@Glotttis
@Glotttis 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, please cancel your Steam Deck reservation asap.
@logipilot
@logipilot 2 жыл бұрын
Steam deck costs half...
@FishyFelix
@FishyFelix 2 жыл бұрын
@@logipilot 1/4 or less.
@bencoomer2000
@bencoomer2000 2 жыл бұрын
Nice to have options.
@MLeoM
@MLeoM 2 жыл бұрын
Loved the presentation.
@JaxDagger
@JaxDagger 2 жыл бұрын
already happy with AMD recently with the 5000 series, loving my 5800x, and considering they relented and allowed for bio updates on old boards sold it for me, be consumer friendly and the consumers will notice
@andresacosta5318
@andresacosta5318 2 жыл бұрын
With the 5000 series compatible with b350 boards and even some a320. I feel better about eventually replacing my ryzen 3 3100 on my b450 to an r9 5950x. Haha :D
@dafaqu694
@dafaqu694 2 жыл бұрын
@@andresacosta5318 idk if the vrm could take it or not But I'd probably get a 5800x if it's B450
@owolou
@owolou 2 жыл бұрын
Love my 5800x, chip is a monster lol
@MN-jw7mm
@MN-jw7mm 2 жыл бұрын
The consumer has made Intel and NVidia billionaires, so obviously they don't care.
@SpinDip42069
@SpinDip42069 2 жыл бұрын
I adore my 5800x
@SoniasWay
@SoniasWay 2 жыл бұрын
I’m loving this shop kind of a setup. It’s amazing how much details you guys put in your videos
@jtwangthu6688
@jtwangthu6688 2 жыл бұрын
Can't wait to see what'll happen when those power efficient system with a good enough iGPU is made into a thin laptop
@whosjoe5369
@whosjoe5369 2 жыл бұрын
Great hand movements 👌👍
@aDifferentJT
@aDifferentJT 2 жыл бұрын
Those results across the power space are fascinating, I’d love to see something similar including Apple’s CPUs, plus exploring across Intel’s product space.
@AutodidactEngineer
@AutodidactEngineer 2 жыл бұрын
N0 apple!!
@demp11
@demp11 2 жыл бұрын
@@AutodidactEngineer why?
@johnbergmann2896
@johnbergmann2896 2 жыл бұрын
Apple is killing it in performance per watt. It’d be cool to see the spread.
@josephjoestar77
@josephjoestar77 2 жыл бұрын
@@johnbergmann2896 Well, they use ARM architecture so no surprise why the x86s can't compete with Apple in that regard
@SarkkiKarkki
@SarkkiKarkki 2 жыл бұрын
6800U thin&lights are going to be awesome laptops.
@gioprox5207
@gioprox5207 2 жыл бұрын
Oh yes, I just hope it isn't insanely expensive cause I have no idea
@bengmo64
@bengmo64 2 жыл бұрын
Wow I've never seen a shop with such great acoustics
@oliwerstjerna1837
@oliwerstjerna1837 2 жыл бұрын
Cant wait for the Console settings reviews on the 6900HS
@Watchandlearn91
@Watchandlearn91 2 жыл бұрын
Very interesting video but I wish there was more testing. Cinebench R23 and one game isn't enough but I guess he did only have it for a day. Great initial findings!
@AlFasGD
@AlFasGD 2 жыл бұрын
Indeed they could have also benched on Blender, and SotTR like in other benches they run
@Watchandlearn91
@Watchandlearn91 2 жыл бұрын
@@AlFasGD Yeah this video seemed oddly short with not much information really. Also, I would love to see what their battery life test was (I don't think he mentioned it did he?). Dave2D had a very different review with less praise but he still liked it.
@SahilSiraj
@SahilSiraj 2 жыл бұрын
@@Watchandlearn91 It was written in the chart. They played KZfaq for the battery test
@LinusTechTips
@LinusTechTips 2 жыл бұрын
More testing is already underway! The full review of the G14 will have way more games and benchmarks! -AC
@Watchandlearn91
@Watchandlearn91 2 жыл бұрын
@@LinusTechTips Awesome, I look forward to it!
@maxxwalters2829
@maxxwalters2829 2 жыл бұрын
I really like the way AMD is going...the 7000 series Desktop CPU will be dope
@wanglee21
@wanglee21 2 жыл бұрын
I find it funny how the CEO of Intel always makes fun of AMD and nVidia but for some odd reason their new tech stomps all over Intel's 2 month old products.
@EmptyZoo393
@EmptyZoo393 2 жыл бұрын
The high end is going to be really interesting to see. I'm hoping that the low end APUs are actually released to the public. I would love to get a quiet, low profile machine built one of these years, and the 5300G would have been the way to go if I could actually use it in my own machine. I'll have to stick with my existing 1600X and ten year old graphics card for the time being.
@ryanlemieux3323
@ryanlemieux3323 2 жыл бұрын
From what they were able to pull off with Zen 3+, you are right the Zen 4 7000 series is going to be ridiculously good.
@Carnage8
@Carnage8 2 жыл бұрын
Love the competition in the cpu space finally
@yo_mono
@yo_mono 2 жыл бұрын
I like the armonization at the beginning
@MrReese
@MrReese 2 жыл бұрын
I have been waiting for laptops with these APUs to come out since the CES announcements. With RDNA2 the iGPU is finally at a point where a dedicated gfx chip can be omitted ant it's still viable to game on it. I hope these CPUs will be put in some affordable laptops (= like 6-700 EUR).
@lyianx
@lyianx 2 жыл бұрын
and omitting a dedicated gpu = much better battery life. Good all around.
@confusedforreal1534
@confusedforreal1534 2 жыл бұрын
same man, same
@one_step_sideways
@one_step_sideways 2 жыл бұрын
@@lyianx Imagine actually using your ultrabook laptops like gaming consoles with more than 3 hours of battery life while running something like Doom Eternal
@Berecutecu
@Berecutecu 2 жыл бұрын
6 months more and you will see RDNA 3
@smudgeone
@smudgeone 2 жыл бұрын
@@Berecutecu AMD has talked about their CPU vs GPU development cycle. The dies for the CPUs are designed far in advance of any GPU changes, which is one of the reasons it took so long for them to change from VEGA to RDNA2. The RDNA3 GPUs will be good I'm sure but they likely won't be in the APU designs for a year or two.
@dawienel1142
@dawienel1142 2 жыл бұрын
its all igp for me, well done AMD you just have the more rounded product.
@keanuareeves
@keanuareeves 2 жыл бұрын
Good point.
@ilikepie1974
@ilikepie1974 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent video, loved the low power testing, as I plan on buying a thin and light style device when they hit shelves. I do wish you would have used the Forza horizon 4 medium preset bench, as it would have allowed comparison between the IGP and budget cards such at the 3050 & 6500xt
@TheAero
@TheAero 2 жыл бұрын
Integrated graphics are close to start replacing low cost GPUS. In the next years we are gonna see many more companies competing in that front especially for mid price laptops!
@kiloneie
@kiloneie 2 жыл бұрын
The better the iGPUs, the cheaper low budget builds will be, i've had the idea of building cheap budget gaming machines with them for lan parties, this is just getting better and better. Also noone plays demanding games for lan parties, so it's more than enough, and power consumption is also very nice, which would be a problem with CPUs + GPUs.
@blazbohinc4964
@blazbohinc4964 2 жыл бұрын
I can confirm. Intel's chips are limited by iGPU. Especially in laptops with 10th gen or older, the iGPU is holding back most of what you'll be doing. That's why I'm so fond of the latest from AMD. Their iGPUs are out of this world.
@Gravy1255
@Gravy1255 2 жыл бұрын
I have an 8th or 9th gen Intel laptop. The IGPU isn't that bad I can play plenty of older games on it. Essentially 2011 and before, all games I really want to replay.
@kazioo2
@kazioo2 2 жыл бұрын
Out of this world in what way? They are very similar to the latest Snapdragon and Apple M1 - tablet SoCs. Its not impressive. It's actually just sad.
@vgamesx1
@vgamesx1 2 жыл бұрын
@@Gravy1255 Well by comparison to something like this which can play modern games at 1080p 60fps that is fairly bad, a mid-tier card from a decade ago like the Radeon 7850 could beat an 8/9 gen iGPU, I could still play most modern games around 2018 on low settings with that and from what was shown here RDNA 2 is pretty competitive with an RX 570 which is just fine for 1080p gaming.
@Gravy1255
@Gravy1255 2 жыл бұрын
@@vgamesx1 I wasn't comparing it to the AMD igpu. I was just saying it isn't that bad, you can get by with it if you keep your expectations in check.
@kiloneie
@kiloneie 2 жыл бұрын
The funny thing is that the same guy who designed the integrated GPUs for AMD, did the same after for Intel(Intel XE), and yet AMD is still leaping over them without him now, which is impressive.
@apachelives
@apachelives 2 жыл бұрын
An interesting point was brought up during the Core 2 Duo days - a chip might consume more power to do something, but takes less time to do it meaning less power was consumed overall
@miserablepile
@miserablepile 2 жыл бұрын
That battery life is insane! So glad AMD is making huge ground in that department. Laptops are getting so good!
@sandrahiltz
@sandrahiltz 2 жыл бұрын
This is why I still would rather AMD, yeah, intel does have the max 100% load performance crown, but really almost no one uses CPU's like that, when gaming I'm always GPU bound so I'd rather something more efficient at a lower TDP.
@dawienel1142
@dawienel1142 2 жыл бұрын
cant agree more and that igp is dope even if you have a dedicated gpu, that igp will be perfect for lightweight games. I currently use my rtx3070 dedicated gpu for mining mostly and jam SWTOR, dota 2 etc on the vega 8 gpu and it usually runs over 100 fps.
@reinhard7164
@reinhard7164 2 жыл бұрын
Well who wants a mini sized nuclear plant?
@float32
@float32 2 жыл бұрын
@@reinhard7164 how else will I warm my coffee? In the microwave, like a caveman?
@reinhard7164
@reinhard7164 2 жыл бұрын
@@float32 lol
@float32
@float32 2 жыл бұрын
@@IvnSoft true, there’s evidence that their stimulant of choice was possibly ephedra.
@nathanbrown492
@nathanbrown492 2 жыл бұрын
4:20, could you test this with a Ryzen U processor when it comes out? It would be good to know that someone can buy a Ryzen H laptop but limit the power for times they need battery life without hurting performance. Edit: Also use frame limiters when testing battery life when gaming? Edit 2: What happens to Ryzen 5000 when you do that TDP Limiting with it.
@sgtshavedballs2913
@sgtshavedballs2913 2 жыл бұрын
4:20 nice
@tobiwonkanogy2975
@tobiwonkanogy2975 2 жыл бұрын
i cant wait to see the 15-25 watt range thin and light for both . My current laptop someone threw away kills it at between 4 and 15 watts on average and 4 core 8 t at up to 3.5 .3500u
@DeeJamiee
@DeeJamiee 2 жыл бұрын
Great overview! First time seeing you on KZfaq the I tried to subscribing not realising it was LTT 😂
@ratel505
@ratel505 2 жыл бұрын
the IGPU on the AMD ryzen is gonna be very big speedup in emulation. I really want to see its performance in RPCS3. Its too bad intel removed AVX-512 on 12th gen mobile since intel laptops could have been the superior emulation machines.
@MichaelPohoreski
@MichaelPohoreski 2 жыл бұрын
AVX-512 is a power virus. It has no place when your are trying to maximize performance per TDP.
@TheDutchisGaming
@TheDutchisGaming 2 жыл бұрын
Imagine having the ryzen 9 69XX and the rx 6900 XT
@albertputrajaya4672
@albertputrajaya4672 2 жыл бұрын
nice
@anesbudiman
@anesbudiman 2 жыл бұрын
From a company that was in vain around 5 years ago, I'd say these stuffs they'd released over the years are just astoundingly amazing!
@thatsgottahurt
@thatsgottahurt 2 жыл бұрын
def need a deeper dive to check out the GPU in a full range of tests.
@WanabeTheLast
@WanabeTheLast 2 жыл бұрын
I like how AMD hits where it hurts the most
@utrak
@utrak 2 жыл бұрын
you mean my wallet? Yes you're right, the price is fucking insane
@TheRomanian.
@TheRomanian. 2 жыл бұрын
@@utrak its not rlly only AMD,its simply EVERYWHERE.
@FhangMedia
@FhangMedia 2 жыл бұрын
@@utrak the prices for EVERYTHING are fucking insane right now. Lets Go Brandon!
@doodskie999
@doodskie999 2 жыл бұрын
I mean sure, its close to intel's brute power albeit with less power consumption but at the graphics department, Its no contest AMD FTW!
@eustahijelifetips
@eustahijelifetips 2 жыл бұрын
No, its optimisation and efficency at peak, hell, i would say that this chip outperforms the regular i5 rocking, gtx1060 or rx570 gaming desktops at a fraction of heat dissipation and power draw
@kaleidodeer
@kaleidodeer 2 жыл бұрын
@@eustahijelifetips 1060 will beat the RDNA 2 stats here, but obv at the cost of more power
@billcar50
@billcar50 2 жыл бұрын
@@kaleidodeer I reckon the 1060 is comparable in performance. 1080p in Forza you'd get about 80 fps with the 1060. That's not much different to the iGPU in the video. It's only one game too. More reviews needed!
@squidscrew1339
@squidscrew1339 2 жыл бұрын
@@billcar50 if so how can that same company release a dedicated GPU which performs close to GTX 1660 ( am talking about Rx 6500 xt ) & sell for 200$? In my area it's more like 300$ btw.
@kaleidodeer
@kaleidodeer 2 жыл бұрын
@@billcar50 If your getting 80 fps with the 1060 then it's a CPU problem not gpu problem. In this video this is the low preset. The 1060 can push 120-130+. I'm really not sure how you even came to such conclusions.
@joekenorer
@joekenorer 2 жыл бұрын
I love this new-age back and forth between AMD and Intel.
@roanbrand7358
@roanbrand7358 2 жыл бұрын
KZfaq playback time so much better, probably because it's the first iGPU that can decode VP9 and AV1. Finally a laptop that can decode video efficiently, been waiting for years.
@GoldenJan
@GoldenJan 2 жыл бұрын
AMD totally dominated after the first ryzen. Pricing is awesome and the performance can nearly, and sometimes do, beat Intel. That's why i'm on ryzen since the 3700x. With 5800x, an 4* (don't know exactly what) and now an 5900hx in Razer.
@Steellmor
@Steellmor 2 жыл бұрын
Well pricing are opposite of awesome. Everything got much more expensive.
@supersop1367
@supersop1367 2 жыл бұрын
@@Steellmor yep that’s true glad someone’s finally brought it up that amd massively charges for their products like for example 5600x at 300$ is over 100 more than the 11400f
@antiwokehuman
@antiwokehuman 2 жыл бұрын
@@supersop1367 although i agree that 300 for a 6 core is crazy. Amd are actually selling every single chip they produce at these save insane prices. People are willing to pay these prices. The situation is similar to what we see in gpus
@Steellmor
@Steellmor 2 жыл бұрын
@@supersop1367 I mean yeah, but I wasn't even talking about that,but in general - desktops got much more expensive,laptops for more than $2k?? Mobos got double in price, AMD stopped making budget CPUs since ryzen 3000 series. No Ryzen 3,no Athlons. Well at least we have COMPETITION. Lol.
@supersop1367
@supersop1367 2 жыл бұрын
@@Steellmor that’s facts
@misteragony
@misteragony 2 жыл бұрын
Hope to see mini-pc's based on these soon. Just bought a 5700g system, perhaps a ryzen 6000 mini pc could have suited my use case as well.
@Neopulse00
@Neopulse00 2 жыл бұрын
That increase in battery in just ONE gen for AMD is insane. I will bear this in mind. I own an Acer Swift 4700u laptop and looking at this one with much desire now.
@Cooe.
@Cooe. 2 жыл бұрын
Just an FYI. The increase is only THAT huge when streaming online video. The MASSIVE gains here are from the new AV1 video codec hardware decoder built into the new RDNA 2 iGPU. This let's video streaming sites that use AV1 (which is most of them & increasingly more everyday) like KZfaq & Netflix run literally TWICE AS POWER EFFICIENT on Ryzen 6000 as Ryzen 5000. For everything BUT newly hardware accelerated workloads like said AV1 video playback though, the battery life gains are more like ≈+10-25% instead of the bonkers +100% seen here.
@servo101
@servo101 2 жыл бұрын
The first bit sounded like the Hiss in Control
@Terra854
@Terra854 2 жыл бұрын
With this much efficiency right now, one day they might be able to make Threadripper APUs. Imagine the performance of a 32C/64T CPU + iGPU capable of performing as well as today's top of the line dGPU, all under a 280W TDP
@amirpourghoureiyan1637
@amirpourghoureiyan1637 2 жыл бұрын
It'd be amazing to see a Xeon mobile competitor. Zen 4 might be enough to see it happen
@Steellmor
@Steellmor 2 жыл бұрын
Why?
@scythereaper3111
@scythereaper3111 2 жыл бұрын
Now intel needs to fix their power consumption charts and we have a proper rivalry.
@Stalker-lh5nk
@Stalker-lh5nk 2 жыл бұрын
what is that supposed to mean xd
@kuronoch.1441
@kuronoch.1441 2 жыл бұрын
Here I am just waiting for an Intel P review. That's Intel's answer to AMD's HS chips.
@joshsmyth130
@joshsmyth130 2 жыл бұрын
Glad I waited for this year's models
@iDoe84
@iDoe84 2 жыл бұрын
wow. this batterlife improvement is insane. I only thought it would be nice to get more decoders and hdmi 2.1 but i‘m mindblown what ryzen 6000 mobile is capable of 😮. But intel also for sure did a big step forward with 12000mobile.
@Cooe.
@Cooe. 2 жыл бұрын
Yup! In particular, the brand new hardware AV1 decoder (what was being taken advantage of in this KZfaq playback battery life test) is absolutely NO FUCKING JOKE in a world where most of the major video hosting platforms (KZfaq, Netflix, etc...) are switching to AV1 basically SOLELY to avoid the MPEG Group's crazy HEVC licensing fees!!! As in, like GAWT DAYUM!!! O___O
@iDoe84
@iDoe84 2 жыл бұрын
@@Cooe. and Firefox finally as well with thr next version will officially support it.
@austinveenstra7186
@austinveenstra7186 2 жыл бұрын
great video, but damn AMD that's a jump. I wasn't expecting that much of a lead in battery life or graphics performance.
@propersod2390
@propersod2390 2 жыл бұрын
In battery life it only had a lead compared to last years laptop because they didn't compare it to Intel. And btw intel also got a big battery life improvement
@xruud24
@xruud24 2 жыл бұрын
@@propersod2390 your a fanboy
@rolasleyva8602
@rolasleyva8602 2 жыл бұрын
@@propersod2390 even 5th gen Ryzen series has a better battery life than 12th gen Intel. Idk what you're talking about
@ranzera
@ranzera 2 жыл бұрын
@@propersod2390 I have a feeling they didn't do a battery life comparison because, given the 2 laptops were of obviously different size, the size of the batteries were probably different as well. It still woulda been nice to see some kind of comparison with a giant asterisk attached.
@NemuruYama
@NemuruYama 2 жыл бұрын
@@ranzera I don't know if they already did a review on the new intel gen for battery life, but a comparison to old AMD is good enough. I have a last gen Zephyrus with the AMD 5900HS and seeing the massive improvement over what I now have, I want it, although I know it's stupid. My current laptop lasts me longer than any laptop I've had before and knowing that AMD is improving upon that generation by generation gives me hope that one day we will actually have laptops that last a full day, no matter the task (With decent performance)
@123italiano321
@123italiano321 2 жыл бұрын
With energy prices rising (I pay 2,3 times the price compared to a few months ago now) the price difference between AMD and Intel CPU's also becomes massive. Especially if you have a desktop.
@suntzu1409
@suntzu1409 2 жыл бұрын
A CPU that runs at 100W nonstop will need 40 hours to burn the same energy as an AC that runs at 1000W nonstop for 4 hours. Also monitors, RAM, motherboard, storage, etc. dont use energy from the shadow realm. Monitors alone can do more than 30W.
@kimnice
@kimnice 2 жыл бұрын
I live in Finland and I need electric heating for like 98% of the time. Extra heat from computer reduces the amount of power that my heating system needs. Also I use sauna unit for an hour per day. 100W CPU would have to go at full tilt for two days to use the same amount of power. Energy prices are crazy though. In a pretty short amount of time it went from 0.03€/kWH to 0.07€/kWh
@123italiano321
@123italiano321 2 жыл бұрын
@@suntzu1409 But (where I live) I only need to put on the AC for a couple of hours per day 4-6 weeks a year vs having my PC on a couple of hours per day every day of the year on average (I work from home 50% off the time). Other hardware also uses a lot of power (GPU's for example), monitors etc. But I light up my entire home for less Watt then I power my CPU. It just all adds up in the end. And if every manufacturer of appliances etc went crazy with power usage I simply could not pay my electric bill anymore.
@123italiano321
@123italiano321 2 жыл бұрын
@@kimnice Yeah I understand when you compare a CPU next to a big unit it is not much of power usage. The prices are that crazy there as well? There no more gas in Finland? My girlfriend and I am going to buy my father in law's home and want to get rid of gas. I was planning to go ham with isolation, get solar panels and get a heat pump instead of a boiler.
@suntzu1409
@suntzu1409 2 жыл бұрын
@@123italiano321 Then you should look at macbook airs and fanless mini PCs
@Briguy1027
@Briguy1027 2 жыл бұрын
Me like them APUs -- just nice and useful for most office tasks.
@kkon5ti
@kkon5ti 2 жыл бұрын
Can’t wait for the G15 review
@orcofnbu
@orcofnbu 2 жыл бұрын
i was about to buy 5500 u amd laptop because i was expecting %10-%20 performance upgrade. but this looks huge. i will wait for it
@DeepteshLovesTECH
@DeepteshLovesTECH 2 жыл бұрын
Bro 5500U is basically Zen2.
@Mastakilla91
@Mastakilla91 2 жыл бұрын
You should wait, the GPU is twice as fast and the CPU also gets some 20% more performance per watt.
@orcofnbu
@orcofnbu 2 жыл бұрын
@@Mastakilla91 yeah this gen looks very promising. performance per watt looks like increased a lot too.
@1337dingus
@1337dingus 2 жыл бұрын
Damn, and I was already impressed by the R5000 Vega 8 GPUs. This is insane!
@danielkuropatka6803
@danielkuropatka6803 2 жыл бұрын
I’m looking forward for the review of the laptop, I’m thinking of getting the ASU’s g14 but all I need to know if the fans are going to be as loud as last gen.
@J0ttaD
@J0ttaD 2 жыл бұрын
The video was ending and I noticed I already had liked it, then i remembered its another great video with a intro that made me laugh.
@PadyEos
@PadyEos 2 жыл бұрын
That 2x battery life vs the previous generation is insane. M Macbook level.
@castortoutnu
@castortoutnu 2 жыл бұрын
I mean technically you'd need another 2x but I see you point.
@ethanblake4
@ethanblake4 2 жыл бұрын
@@castortoutnu not really. When the 6900HS is limited to 40W (the M1 Pro's typical power under load), it's only ~10% slower in Cinebench and ~25% slower in Geekbench. Which is honestly fantastic given the M1 is on 5nm and costs substantially more to manufacture.
@peaceinoutb
@peaceinoutb 2 жыл бұрын
I haven't had an Intel chip since my 5820k but my 3,700x under volts like a champ still holding 4.1 GHz all core dropping the voltage down to 1.1v comparative to the 1.45v it came out of the box with and it runs better then stock.
@cosminmilitaru9920
@cosminmilitaru9920 2 жыл бұрын
It is so nice to see someone else in the wild that knows the motherboards overvolt to be sure to offer a sufficient voltage, and that you can actually easily undervolt+overclock for proper efficiency and performance boosts. Personally I have R5 3600 at 4 GHz on 1.00v. Max it does 4.40 GHz on 1.33v. I undevolt + overclock on everyone's PC where I am allowed 15 minutes to tinker, no complaints yet. I've overclocked also RAM on iGPU systems but didn't get enough time to also test the iGPU performance improvements, if any.
@sbibbity_bobbity_bup
@sbibbity_bobbity_bup 2 жыл бұрын
im getting pretty good detecting when the sponsor plug is coming but yall are pretty quick with it
@matejnovosad9152
@matejnovosad9152 2 жыл бұрын
I love this set
@stennan
@stennan 2 жыл бұрын
Wow! That battery life improvement!
@edwarddolezal559
@edwarddolezal559 2 жыл бұрын
I wonder what the surface laptops would be like with this, or even if Microsoft device to make a ryzen edition of the surface Pro.
@lucaeichler2147
@lucaeichler2147 2 жыл бұрын
Looking forward to the full review. Do you know whether the Zephyrus (or Ryzen 6000 in general) support eGPUs? Since they support USB4 they should in theory, right?
@ironmantooltime
@ironmantooltime 2 жыл бұрын
WELL ROUNDED review 👍
@samtherat6
@samtherat6 2 жыл бұрын
Ooh, I’m really curious to see a direct comparison with what the Steam Deck could’ve been with Zen 3+ cores. Like set the exact same TDP, same number of cores, and same GPU, see how much more performance 6000 series get. Similarly, match the performance together, like 60FPS in a certain game, and see how many more hours per MaH the new CPUs get.
@samtherat6
@samtherat6 2 жыл бұрын
Probably would attach both to an external display, and have them only output to an external display, and maybe attach a controller to the laptop, to try and only compare the CPUs. As far as I can tell, the Steam Deck is the only mobile CPU with Zen 2 cores and RDNA2 graphics that can run whatever you want on it.
@jonathanpusar5931
@jonathanpusar5931 2 жыл бұрын
Zen 3 is only a small bump vs Zen 2 (just look at 5500u vs 5600u benchmarks). So not a huge gain that would probably make the chip more expensive. But 3+ would have nicely improved battery life. I'm sure the Steam Deck is going to constantly get chip improvements yearly. It's not a game console.
@thunderturbine8860
@thunderturbine8860 2 жыл бұрын
After this review, I'll be buying a Ryzen 6000 laptop this year for sure 🙂 Jolly good show @Linus Tech Tips
@lucasrem1870
@lucasrem1870 2 жыл бұрын
what laptop u use now????
@AVdE10000
@AVdE10000 2 жыл бұрын
No joke, I was planning to buy a laptop with a ryzen 5800 chip tomorrow. This came out just in time
@TeddieBean
@TeddieBean 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent stats! Also great production. More Alex! Really great presenting here and he's engaged, relaxed and involved the entire time. Great rhythm and intonation and he is always super genuine! Plus I get to sit the whole time like this 😍😍🥵😍😍
@bojan6368
@bojan6368 2 жыл бұрын
100% agree. Alex does a good job at presenting and also gathering data/testing but really he is good on camera glad they got him on here
@TeddieBean
@TeddieBean 2 жыл бұрын
@@bojan6368 great on camera! Easy on the eyes 😅😏
@JaccoSW
@JaccoSW 2 жыл бұрын
Very nice performance, especially the iGPU. I'm curious to see what manufacturers of mini-PCs are going to do with this. The latest 5900HX models are already great little HTPC and emulation machines so higher efficiency will probably mean even quieter models!
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