S3E2 Fuel and aerodynamic mods ....We do some experiments to try and get the Saturn to go faster.

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Robot Cantina

Robot Cantina

Жыл бұрын

Season 3 Episode 2. Jimbo changes the aerodynamic profile of the Saturn coupe in an attempt to go faster. He also installs an exhaust gas temperature gauge and adjusts the injector pump fuel limit. How fast with the Saturn go... tune in and check it out!
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@francistheodorecatte
@francistheodorecatte Жыл бұрын
the fact the coolant isn't very warm on this engine stock is not necessarily a problem, since kubota likely designed it to operate under load as a stationary engine for very long periods of time, while being as thermodynamically efficient as possible, hence the cold exhaust manifold. by blocking off almost all the airflow to the engine bay with the airomods, the engine is likely now heat-soaking under heavy load, leading to your perceived power loss. additionally, without an oil cooler, the higher than stock RPM is probably getting the oil nice and toasty-you should probably be monitoring the temperature of that too.
@JamesBalazs
@JamesBalazs Жыл бұрын
Depends how you look at it - diesels are more economical when taking in slightly warmer air (although it will make more power with a cold feed). And it will be less efficient if it never reaches a suitable operating temperature due to 50mph air flow through the engine bay which it's not designed for.
@inoahmann7542
@inoahmann7542 Жыл бұрын
Diesels don't like running too cold. If they're too far below operating temperature, they can't fully combust the fuel. If they're too hot, the intake air is less dense, and they lose power that way.
@cullengarrick9036
@cullengarrick9036 Жыл бұрын
The mass air density is most likely a greater issue then the engine blocks thermal efficiency
@hardergamer
@hardergamer Жыл бұрын
This is funny, I have just said the same about over heating the oil.
@Tyler-ts2ld
@Tyler-ts2ld Жыл бұрын
you're absolutely right. the engine is from a trailer reefer unit, and its designed to run at a certain steady RPM constantly.
@der_pinguin44
@der_pinguin44 Жыл бұрын
Alright, I'll pitch in now. I own an 82 Isuzu I-Mark Diesel. .50 drag coefficient. From the factory, it is equipped with a 51 horsepower, 72 lb-ft 1.8L engine. On the tire size, from the factory, it was equipped with 155/70R13s. Those are difficult to come by where I am, so I run 175s. I also run my tires at 40 PSI. I've been able to pull 62 MPG out of it. 0-60 takes 20 seconds. Fastest I've ever had that car on a test track was 94 MPH. Not kidding. Anyway, just figured I'd toss you that information to give you a base for what was commercially available.
@der_pinguin44
@der_pinguin44 Жыл бұрын
I lovingly refer to it as the Angry Singer Sewing Machine. You can see it on my channel.
@MrTench8
@MrTench8 Жыл бұрын
It's the boot spoiler! Removing that cost you 3 seconds! :-) Everyone know's they make you go faster! I reckon adding a couple of stripes will knock another couple of seconds off!
@robotcantina8957
@robotcantina8957 Жыл бұрын
Dang it, I forgot to paint racing strips on the car.... Thanks for the tip!
@nodrug2
@nodrug2 Жыл бұрын
That and a loud stereo!
@856Dropout
@856Dropout Жыл бұрын
They do aid in aero. Well according to most KZfaq videos on the subject anyway. Something about separating the boundary layer.
@cdj0031
@cdj0031 Жыл бұрын
In all reality, the only thing left is to reduce the rear surface area, and a good strong edge to detach the laminar flow. Technically the spoiler was acting as the edge
@jjsmanahan5014
@jjsmanahan5014 Жыл бұрын
Slap stickers add 5 hp
@PawelTylinski
@PawelTylinski Жыл бұрын
If you want to gain 30% more power do the LPG (propane-butane) injection to the air intake. If you never heard of this, search for LPG-Diesel. Actually I have this system mounted in my 2.5 Audi A6 C5 and it is working great. Before I installed proper system, I was experimenting by just putting hose from camp gas tank into air intake,.You can try this for beginning :) (this is short term solution, because without heating system for gas, nozzle will froze after few minutes).
@joewell6435
@joewell6435 Жыл бұрын
"putting the hose from camp gas tank into the air intake" otherwise known as red neck nitro XD
@MiGujack3
@MiGujack3 Жыл бұрын
That's like discount Nitrous.
@daveunbranded
@daveunbranded Жыл бұрын
I don't think he can afford a new engine
@coachgeo
@coachgeo Жыл бұрын
LP fumigation tends to work far better with aspirated (turbo) diesels compared naturally aspirated. Not sure why though. Cost ratio, space to safely carry the LP is an issue though. Seem to recall most report that it tends to work best to use it mostly for hard work events like acceleration and long upgrades. Since you use it..... has this been your experience?
@CoffeeAddictEvan
@CoffeeAddictEvan Жыл бұрын
@@coachgeo it works better in conjunction with a turbo because lpg displaces air, but with a turbo that effect is negligible
@xb70valkyriech
@xb70valkyriech Жыл бұрын
Aero engineer by education here, a couple of tips to consider: 1. The spoiler does actually help with aerodynamics. You probably don't need to put the big spoiler back on, but you can get the little plastic stick on spoilers, or even just cardboard/plastic board plus tape to help the air at the back to separate from the trunk. You just want the air to ramp up a little bit. If the air can "jump off" the spoiler ramp a bit, then it can rejoin the airflow easier and reduce drag. 2. Another cheap thing you can do is try adding vortex generators to the back of the roof, to help the airflow stick to the back window as it flows down. Something like you see on Subaru WRX's. This will also help guide the air into the spoiler. If you want to crank the hillbilly aerodynamics up to eleven, you can add a full undertray and boat tail. The channel "think flight" has a small series about this for a better visual of what I mean.
@swecreations
@swecreations Жыл бұрын
Agree with you on all points. Vortex generators are however more complex than just sticking them on, they may just as well worsen aerodynamics just as much as they improve them if you don't calculate it correctly, so I'd personally skip them.
@xb70valkyriech
@xb70valkyriech Жыл бұрын
@@swecreations true, if you don't know what you're doing. It's probably something that's best done here by trial and error. Try with, try without, see what works best. I figured for how simple they are, and by copying other cars, it can probably get close enough
@robotcantina8957
@robotcantina8957 Жыл бұрын
Thanks! We are getting some feedback on the rear spoiler and folks are saying something should be there in order to reduce drag. We will try a few options and see what works.
@madmax2069
@madmax2069 Жыл бұрын
And funny enough, the KZfaq channel called SuperfastMatt just uploaded a video about aerodynamic drag. He has a 1950 Jaguar that's been converted to electric (it's actually more aerodynamic driving it backwards that forwards), he scans the car and inputs the scan into a program that models the aerodynamics, and brings up the rear design of modern cars (that spoiler like lip on the trunk lid) that helps reduce the drag.
@paulheitkemper1559
@paulheitkemper1559 Жыл бұрын
@@madmax2069 I just posted saying basically the same thing. I would imagine a lot of us here share similar KZfaq habits.
@princesssolace4337
@princesssolace4337 Жыл бұрын
This sort of reminds when I was 9 or 10 years old , riding a Kubota on a rice/padi field in my village.... Never in a watever lifetime a YT content gonna kicked my memory into reverse 😁
@Joel.Ravet88
@Joel.Ravet88 Жыл бұрын
"It's not pretty, but it's, well, it's not pretty" Brilliant 👏 👏 👏
@ElPants21
@ElPants21 Жыл бұрын
Try putting the spoiler back on. Strange as it sounds it might actually cut drag in your case. IF The airflow stays attached going over the rear of the car that can increase the air pressure acting on the rear window which has the effect of pushing you forward slightly or at least pulling you backward less intensely. If you have a pitot tube and/or a magnahelic gauge laying around that you can measure air pressures you can do an a/b test on that or if not you could do tuft testing with some yarn to at least observe the airflow to see if you have a separation bubble
@discontinuuity
@discontinuuity Жыл бұрын
A low profile spoiler made from coroplast or some other flat material might be best
@drippingwax
@drippingwax Жыл бұрын
There is a diagram of this car on the Ecomodder forums, thread #40628. The back of the car should taper like the Insight. The top of the spoiler is about 4" too low.
@ElPants21
@ElPants21 Жыл бұрын
@@discontinuuity it's easy to go too far though and move backwards Without instrumentation you're just guessing. The slight upturn or small deck-lid spoiler to increase pressure on the window and counterintuitively, reduce drag, is the reason a lot of OEs have been doing it. Think the new Hyundai sonata, and every Tesla, among dozens of others.
@friedtomatoes4946
@friedtomatoes4946 Жыл бұрын
Yeah see that spoiler is not probably efficient at breaking air flow from the back of the car. The back of the car is shaped such that you need a very clean and sudden break. Although it's probably better than no spoiler. You probably are actually creating a vacuum behind the car instead of what you want which is a vortex/low pressure bubble. It would be really good to just model the Saturn and run it through some cheap CFD. The absolutely most efficient thing is obviously to never break air flow but that's just not possible with the shape of the car. You would need a long sloping tail
@randr10
@randr10 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely this. I used to own one of these cars and when I painted it I shaved all the badges and removed the spoiler to get a cleaner look, which actually decreased my fuel mileage slightly. That little lip that you see on the back of the trunk lid on newer sedans fulfills the same purpose. This is why a pickup truck with a bed cover on it will get worse mpg too, because the tailgate acts as a spoiler, which counterintuitively decreases drag. A lot of research went into the aero on these S-series Saturns. They were some of the most slippery cars available at the time with a drag coefficient of between 0.29-0.32 depending on the model and year. I would do any aero mods one at a time because these cars were so good you may make it worse. Another thing is the little plastic pieces that go in the front to direct air to the radiator, along with the ones in the wheel wells. I removed those at one point too thinking lightening up the car would improve mpg and performance, but that also hurt mpg so I put them back on.
@stevenrhoat2902
@stevenrhoat2902 Жыл бұрын
Possibly fuel supply shortage? A turbo should lower EGT with the help of an intercooler. Looks good so far Jimbo keep it going 🙂
@randomlife718
@randomlife718 Жыл бұрын
Agree with fuel supply issue.
@tinkerne-round4079
@tinkerne-round4079 Жыл бұрын
I'd bet the spoiler did more for aero than you may think. I know all late model cars and trucks have a hangover lip off the truck or tailgate to smooth Eddy currents at the rear of the vehicle. That spoiler might have done just that.
@Whateverpoopiepants
@Whateverpoopiepants Жыл бұрын
Eddy current ? Pff ha ha ha , what ?
@nodrug2
@nodrug2 Жыл бұрын
@@Whateverpoopiepants For sure at 55 MPH!
@tinkerne-round4079
@tinkerne-round4079 Жыл бұрын
@@Whateverpoopiepants You got me. Eddy current wasn't the right term. But you know what I'm getting at obviously. We'll just call it turbulence. I feel for you serious KZfaqrs. Dealing with trolls would be exhausting.
@nerd1000ify
@nerd1000ify Жыл бұрын
What you're thinking of is more or less the air 'sticking' to the sloping rear window for a bit before detaching. The trick is that ideally you'd have a long tapering tail like a bird. This is obviously impractical, but it turns out that if you end the car's shape abruptly the air detatches cleanly from the body and flows kind of like that long tail is there, reducing drag.
@drippingwax
@drippingwax Жыл бұрын
@@nerd1000ify There is a diagram of this car on the Ecomodder forums, thread #40628. The back of the car should taper like the Insight. The top of the spoiler is about 4" too low.
@erickwport
@erickwport Жыл бұрын
Seeing the engineering on all other videos I have no doubt you could add oil squirters to this engine. Tap into oil galley and just add them to stand alone rail inside block under rotating assembly. Honestly that would be simple compared to the other wizardry you have already done.
@joewell6435
@joewell6435 Жыл бұрын
I wonder what effect covering the rear wheel wells like with the insight would have
@MariuszChr
@MariuszChr Жыл бұрын
plus entire underbelly
@Oldsmobile69
@Oldsmobile69 Жыл бұрын
The front wheels can be partially covered too.
@MariuszChr
@MariuszChr Жыл бұрын
@@Oldsmobile69 hmmm you could put a bubble to cover entire thing, but hard to do from cardboard
@Aeros-tech
@Aeros-tech Жыл бұрын
Slower then a fiat 126 26hp with a 0-60mph in 47 sec😊
@MariuszChr
@MariuszChr Жыл бұрын
@@Aeros-tech because it's monster. In Poland we even towed with this thing.
@invujerry
@invujerry Жыл бұрын
Looking forward to the turbo test! In theory, you’ll be wide open throttle less if you boost it, so your EGT’s shouldn’t be too insane. I’d get a gauge for oil temps just in case, and run an oil cooler with a thermostat.
@scox7760
@scox7760 Жыл бұрын
How about a ram air intake for more high end speed before you install the turbo?
@invujerry
@invujerry Жыл бұрын
@@scox7760 I don’t think they’re going fast enough for a ram air intake to be doing much that’s effective. I think it makes 1psi per 100 MPH in clean air if it’s absolutely optimized. If they’re going 65 now, it might make .6psi if it was perfectly setup, which on a ~20hp engine might make .85HP more, and I doubt that would make much difference. A decent 7psi turbo setup would get it to make about 30HP, a bigger difference.
@garyhargreaves5630
@garyhargreaves5630 Жыл бұрын
Surely diesels are always WOT, it’s only fueling that alters? That’s why their VE is good
@invujerry
@invujerry Жыл бұрын
@@garyhargreaves5630 that’s true, but they still do better with forced induction.
@soknightsam
@soknightsam Жыл бұрын
Oil cooler for sure
@replikvltyoutube3727
@replikvltyoutube3727 Жыл бұрын
I'm afraid you might have blocked off air intake into engine, so it's possible that after some time of max throttle engine is starved of (cold) air, so maybe installing a cold air intake would work out, and since you have that area on bumper to cut, you don't have to ruin bonnet. Should slightly improve performance on high speed doubling as an inertia supercharger (air resistance in front push more air into engine) Cheers, that's a good project and video, Thanks!
@billsmith5166
@billsmith5166 Жыл бұрын
Fender skirts? Increased tire pressure? Air scoop enclosed directly to intake? Front campaign sign mod increases downforce, try moving top forward and bottom rearward, so it looks like an arrow shape from the side (reduces downforce, reduces drag)? Lower oil viscosity,? Water injection? Continued success! Thanks for the video!
@kickboxs77
@kickboxs77 Жыл бұрын
The transfer pump you are using is all the evidence you need of air bubbles in the fuel. Magnetic piston fuel pumps of that type are notorious for causing cavitation bubbles in fuel lines, especially with oil fuels like diesel. It’s a well known phenomenon in the self-installed diesel air heater community. Try mounting your pump on about a 25-45 degree angle with the outlet side up and the inlet side down. This is the first piece of advice given to anyone dealing with cavitation bubbles in a heater. I sincerely hope this helps. Thanks for reading my comment and thanks for all the great content. I have been watching since the insight first got a predator.
@cmuller1441
@cmuller1441 Жыл бұрын
You should push the speed in 4th speed higher because it seems that the gearing makes the 5th very "long" for economy. When switching from 4th to 5th you go down to 2400rpm!
@kasuraga
@kasuraga Жыл бұрын
I think gearing down from the smaller tires pushes that shift point from 4th to 5th to around 50mph from what the tach said on his dash. it dropped the top speed in 4th but made the gearing such that he can use 5th now to get a higher top speed. I guess the alternative is to put the stock tires back on and see if the aero will allow a higher top speed in 4th and allows 5th to be used without lugging the engine down and slowing it down
@cmuller1441
@cmuller1441 Жыл бұрын
@@kasuraga There's not much that can be done for the "gap" between 4 and 5. Maybe a solution would be to optimize for top speed in 4th with tire size and keep 5 for economy. But you only have 4 gears to accelerate. Alternatively you use even smaller tires and get higher rpm in 5th.
@kasuraga
@kasuraga Жыл бұрын
@@cmuller1441 Yeah that's what I was thinking too. But also, once it's turbo, it might be better to keep the gearing with the stock tires since the added power should help 4th pull along better, then 5th can be used for final acceleration to top speed and cruising.
@cmuller1441
@cmuller1441 Жыл бұрын
@@kasuraga I agree. Optimizing it when you know that you'll have a different engine later is just a waste of time.
@nuttyDesignAndFab
@nuttyDesignAndFab Жыл бұрын
skinnier wheels will indeed have less rolling resistance and provide less air resistance. You can also max out the pressures to whatever the sidewall allows. You can also try to cover the rear wheel wells.
@SlickTwigDotWAVfile
@SlickTwigDotWAVfile Жыл бұрын
he could also lower it, considering it does actually benefit aerodynamics slightly
@jfv65
@jfv65 Жыл бұрын
He could also convert the wipers to 1 wiper that Parks in the straight up and down position in the middle of the screen. It's an old DTM racecar trick.
@vasilis23456
@vasilis23456 Жыл бұрын
Probably not a good idea to max the pressure in the winter because once it heats up they're over pressure.
@zogworth
@zogworth Жыл бұрын
So recreate the Honda?
@nuttyDesignAndFab
@nuttyDesignAndFab Жыл бұрын
@@vasilis23456 well the max pressure is generally ~50psi and burst pressure is well over 200 in most cases. There's loads of safety margin on them, not like any tire manufacturer wants to expose themselves to undue liability.
@gazvlogs7459
@gazvlogs7459 Жыл бұрын
16:00 When you said "eventually when we add a turbo" I giggled like a little girl from excitement! This is awesome!!
@thomas3650
@thomas3650 Жыл бұрын
Hi Jimbo, greetings from the UK and loving this project.
@unclebs4732
@unclebs4732 Жыл бұрын
I bet removing the rear seat and front passengers' seat would be help for weight reduction. The best car to put the little diesel in would have been a late 1980's GEO Metro, they only weight 1650 pounds. But we use what we have for experiments. I like how you explain things as you go, it helps us who don't understand everything, understand. Thanks from Michigan.
@madmod
@madmod Жыл бұрын
Ive been looking at small diesel engines for my sand rail so i can use it with minimal to no electronics and if its under 700cc in my state, i can register the sand rail for the streets which is my primary goal for the buggy.
@derekmaxwell8164
@derekmaxwell8164 Жыл бұрын
Or the metro older brother the chevy sprint 1470lbs but people want like $3,000 plus for them.
@kennedy796
@kennedy796 Жыл бұрын
The engine is likely heat soaking which would explain the power loss. If you put a hole in the aero mod for the intake air you will get way better power and lower egts. This bit will be very important for turbo charging as without the piston oilers and perhaps a oil cooler, you are going to want the air going in as cold as possible. Remember colder air going in give better power and fuel economy
@americansmark
@americansmark Жыл бұрын
He may benefit from running a cold air intake pipe out to the front of the car. It'd get the air to the densest area and away from any heat.
@kennedy796
@kennedy796 Жыл бұрын
@@americansmark plus if the flow of the intake is smooth he will basically gain some free horsepower above 30 mph.
@swecreations
@swecreations Жыл бұрын
Cold air does not improve fuel economy, it's the exact opposite. Google what a warm air intake is for example. Cold air slightly improves power and slightly decreased fuel economy.
@americansmark
@americansmark Жыл бұрын
@@swecreations he needs more top end power, so that is what he needs to do.
@kennedy796
@kennedy796 Жыл бұрын
@@swecreations it absolutely does because this engine is mechanical and burns the same amount of fuel no matter what. So when you give the engine more power potential, the less you are heavy on the throttle for acceleration and the faster you can get back to cruising.
@ttargetss
@ttargetss Жыл бұрын
Thank you for zooming in and showing the heater core is plumbed to the bypass tube. Many thanks!
@ocdman202
@ocdman202 Жыл бұрын
@Robotcantina Telegrams reached their peak popularity in the 1920s and 1930s when it was cheaper to send a telegram than to place a long distance telephone call. People would save money by using the word "stop" instead of periods to end sentences because punctuation was extra while the four character word was free. Telegrams were used to announce the first flight in 1903 and the start of World War I. During World War II, the sight of a Western Union courier was feared because the War Department, the precursor to the Department of Defense, used the company to notify families of the death of their loved ones serving in the military, Chayet said. With long distance rates dropping and different technologies for communicating evolving - including the internet - Western Union phased out couriers in the late 1960s and early 1970s. By the way what kind of prize are you talkin here?
@mommapanda5736
@mommapanda5736 Жыл бұрын
@@ocdman202 The Model T was introduced to the world in 1908. Henry Ford wanted the Model T to be affordable, simple to operate, and durable. The vehicle was one of the first mass production vehicles, allowing Ford to achieve his aim of manufacturing the universal car. Telegrams went the way of the Model T..
@mommapanda5736
@mommapanda5736 Жыл бұрын
The lights of the original Model T were not electric. The common lamps used on horse drawn vehicles were the lamps used on the Model T, this meant it used acetylene carbide headlights and oil side lamps. Electric lighting and electric starting became available for the Model T late in production during the 1920’s.
@CraftComputing
@CraftComputing Жыл бұрын
Robot Cantina: Posts new D722 video Me: Searching Craigslist/Marketplace for a junker to do the same.....
@gafrers
@gafrers Жыл бұрын
To verify if the aero-mods are improvements or not, you could use cotton/textile strings and a camera to see flow separation, turbolence, etc. A Pitot tube or Magnehelic gauge are a bit more expensive but obviously more accurate. Would be cool to see the data of lift and drag before and after mods
@goosenotmaverick1156
@goosenotmaverick1156 Жыл бұрын
Magnahelic, isn't that the ones that meausre pressure differential? That could be cool
@gafrers
@gafrers Жыл бұрын
@@goosenotmaverick1156 Yes, it is. Julian Edgar has some great simple videos explaining it if you do not want to spend hours on textbooks, wiki and such.
@confuseatronica
@confuseatronica Жыл бұрын
tufts are great, they tell you a lot and they're just yarn and tape and whatever camera you already have
@drippingwax
@drippingwax Жыл бұрын
I commend the use of A-B-A testing. As much as I love the aero testing, he needs to figure out the power reduction, which is a confounding variable.
@Gunbudder
@Gunbudder Жыл бұрын
LOL a pitot coming off the front would be hilarious
@madmandevelopments
@madmandevelopments Жыл бұрын
Hey Jimbo, That was a fun video. You can fit a pressure guage to your fuel supply point at the pump, make sure you're not dropping fuel pressure at wide open throttle. That engine should be good for 1 Bar boost, it has a tough sub assembly. You can also safely go to 650 on the egt, but you may want to either intercool the boost or add water/meth injection...keep going !
@robotcantina8957
@robotcantina8957 Жыл бұрын
Thanks! We have a new higher flow electric diesel fuel pump on its way. The pump we are currently using is rated for diesel but is very suspect... especially since it only cost $10.00. The new pump set us back a whole $23.99. If that dosnt help, we will put a pressure sensor on the line and see what is going on.
@MrAlp4228
@MrAlp4228 Жыл бұрын
@@robotcantina8957 Do you have a restriction on the fuel return line? I'm not sure if these injection pumps have one built in, but is necessary on diesel engines. My only experience with these engines is on truck-mounted reefer units, and typically they're equipped with a fairly dinky transfer pump.
@lowerweb8466
@lowerweb8466 Жыл бұрын
okay so long term veiwer here, you got me into electrical back in the day, always been into cars and now i think this is the best channel on yt.
@The-Night-Wolf
@The-Night-Wolf Жыл бұрын
Hey, I had a diesel swapped SL2 a few years ago. Aero mods on mine were blocking the front ducting with plastic removing the side view mirrors and having mirrors mounted inside the doors that could see outside. They were basically a convex mirror. Worked well. And on the sedan at least the front lights were inset on the body. The lights were mounted on stand offs to ouch them out to be more level with the hood and front bumper. And finally the wheel covers were like the flat ones you see people running at bonneville. Car got about 90-100mpg when driven nicely. And even driven hard it was capable of 50-60mpg.
@jamescharron4535
@jamescharron4535 Жыл бұрын
Try adding water meth when you go about installing the turbo. It will help drop charge temperatures and will also add more fuel into the system. Also that aero is probably a bad idea since you’re going to want that area and air flow for a intercooler. Like another viewer commented rig up a cool air intake, your power loss is most likely due to the engine breathing hot air. It’s not about how much boost you can cram into an engine but how much air density you can feed it.
@SHSPVR
@SHSPVR Жыл бұрын
Yup that the best way and you pick up power
@americansmark
@americansmark Жыл бұрын
For sure. And when he adds an intercooler, he can find a used intercooler off eBay for next to nothing. Something from a civic or a fiat 500 would be plenty small enough.
@HeyItsJonny
@HeyItsJonny Жыл бұрын
Mmm yes feed it some meth. Either it will have limitless power, or it will get face tattoos and a prison sentence.
@regal105
@regal105 Жыл бұрын
You need one of those little English muffin sized turbos for that engine now
@TheBlaert
@TheBlaert Жыл бұрын
I did an experiment on a VW Polo 1.4 TDi a few years back. Reduced weight by as much as possible, aerodynamic mods such as narrow tyres, closing off un-necessary ducts and removing anything that caused excessive drag. Had the engine slightly modified with a custom remap, a more free flowing exhaust. Can't remember exact figures but it achieved slightly over 100mpg and the performance was incredible
@Patrick.Weightman
@Patrick.Weightman Жыл бұрын
2:00 That is 100% correct. It's a thing amongst older Jeep guys to take off the passenger mirror, because it's almost totally blocked by the windshield anyways
@NeonDreams7
@NeonDreams7 Жыл бұрын
Such a fun project to watch! We can't see what the exhaust is doing, but if you're giving it more fuel then it may also not be buring it completely. Maybe consider adding a propane injection when you get the turbo on? Thanks for sharing!
@Llyduramax
@Llyduramax Жыл бұрын
Actually those engines the smoke clears after rpm goes up cause their made without forced air induction and even adding a turbo with it stock no fuel screw would really help
@adieu60
@adieu60 Жыл бұрын
I just want to say thank you for converting those numbers for us, all metric folks out there. Keep up the good work!
@84gssteve
@84gssteve Жыл бұрын
The majority of small diesel equipment engines that are turbocharged are running low boost to help with widening the torque bulge and keep revs consistent when the load varies. Typically, manifold pressure is 4-6 psi so an intercooler is not really needed, nor are piston oil sprayers.....however, the majority of turbo Kubota's do utilize a water/oil cooler under the oil filter. An air/oil cooler would probably be easier to fabricate and would greatly help with engine/turbo longevity, especially when holding full throttle for long periods in top gear.
@redz83
@redz83 Жыл бұрын
I'm so glad you write the metric values! It is warming up my heart!
@rodneyross5282
@rodneyross5282 Жыл бұрын
Come on turbo, we added a oil cooler with our mod on our old cummins, that was a good move. Might want to watch that oil temp. Have a wonderful week. God Bless
@dangerousdave5915
@dangerousdave5915 Жыл бұрын
Very Nice! Fun times had by all!
@anthonykiszka4976
@anthonykiszka4976 Жыл бұрын
The exhaust on my Cub Cadet with a D600 Kubota gets very hot. It has a stamped metal safety guard. Under heavy load it blows black smoke, 54" snow blade, chains and tractor tires. I use it to plow my drive way over on Fox road by MIchigan ave near your old stomping grounds. In cold weather the tractor runs very cool, the only time I see the temp gauge move is during summer. There were Cub Cadets that came with those diesels. The garden tractor pullers use a turbo from a European smart car, its 3 cylinder, and has the turbo built in to the manifold, you just need an adapter plate. The Military also had d722T on their generators.
@dustcommander100
@dustcommander100 Жыл бұрын
Simply fascinating! Such high-quality graphics and explanations!
@anthonyrstrawbridge
@anthonyrstrawbridge Жыл бұрын
I'm impressed with those numbers. Good as a VW TDI or little Saab TDI. Obviously, the recirculation of the exhaust gas will balance the increased KW Joules nicely. ✌️♥️👍👍 Maybe the drag at the rear should be red yarn tested with three or four 1 meter lengths across the trunk lid. In practice the yarn will likely not fly straight away but instead suck back into the low pressure drag ares created by removing the vortices extending wing. Good for a guy riding your tail on motorcycle but not for acceleration and fuel savings.
@parkerbethke
@parkerbethke Жыл бұрын
a small turbo with a few pounds of boost would solve every problem with speed, and make it so the car doesnt need to have crazy aero mods. Plus, turbos for diesels increase overall efficiency and can easily lead to more MPGs Maybe a k03 turbo from an older audi / volkswagen turbo engine would do well... The inducer size on those is like 30mm so not too big for the baby sized engine
@Ar0d
@Ar0d Жыл бұрын
Highway tires with the least rolling resistance, smaller and lighter weight wheels, +15% recommended tire pressure. (Pre turbo) Intake piping to ram air intake, change intake manifold to 3 independent, long, and thinner? tubes. Possibly angle them greatly from the valves to increase turbulence pre-ignition. Someone mentioned lower oil viscosity but I imagine that will need a change of bearing clearance if you intend to change boost. You could get stiffer valve springs and get an increased RPM. Love your videos
@s10mods
@s10mods Жыл бұрын
Can confirm a 26hp Kubota tractor engine has cool exhaust at idle, cooler yet in winter.
@JoseSilveira-newhandleforYT
@JoseSilveira-newhandleforYT Жыл бұрын
Thanks for another interesting episode! That little Kubota is gonna go places :-) Wondering what new thrills and chills (or pitfalls) the turbo is going to bring. We'll see next Sunday :-)
@randr10
@randr10 Жыл бұрын
I took the spoiler off of mine because I liked the clean look without it better but it actually hurt my gas mileage a bit. More modern cars will have a little lip on the back of the trunk lid that would take the place of this spoiler for you. Manufacturers claim 1-3% increase in fuel efficiency from that, so it has to reduce drag significantly.
@randr10
@randr10 Жыл бұрын
Also, yes on the cool exhaust. All diesels will run cool at idle, which is why it's not a good idea to try to warm up a diesel engine by idling it. You need to put it under load to heat it up. I'm not sure what the physics are that cause this phenomenon, but I learned this when I bought a medium truck with a 7.3l IDI International diesel. It was the same way. At idle after a cold start I could put my bare hands right on the exhaust even after 10 minutes of running.
@0778drz110
@0778drz110 Жыл бұрын
You took the wing off and made it slower!😄
@Orbacron
@Orbacron Жыл бұрын
That was awesome to see it accelerate so well on the doughnut tires and gain a few mph👍
@moparcasey3135
@moparcasey3135 Жыл бұрын
Very interesting stuff!!! Keep it coming!!
@krayonss
@krayonss Жыл бұрын
it’s good to see another 18v makita impact driver up to no good on cars, at least i’m not the only one
@tedbiernacki376
@tedbiernacki376 Жыл бұрын
Once again you made me chuckle ! Love your sence of humor ! Love those graphics too !
@SlowerIsFaster139
@SlowerIsFaster139 Жыл бұрын
It nice to see your channel growing so fast. these one of a kind engine swaps are so much fun to watch and you present it so well.
@yetti_31
@yetti_31 Жыл бұрын
good to see you’re doing better jimbo!! keep up the good work. highlight of my weekends
@WellbeWelloff
@WellbeWelloff Жыл бұрын
You should have left the dirt, it added a low pressure zone causing the air to help push the car forward! Lol I can't wait to see more.
@IstasPumaNevada
@IstasPumaNevada Жыл бұрын
Some of these have already been said by others, but: Power loss might be due to warmer intake air temps from closing off the grille. (Also, worse aero can notably hurt near-top-speed acceleration.) Maybe could run a hose from the rectangle hole in the airdam to the engine intake? Removing that spoiler might make aero worse (that type of spoiler is probably catching airflow coming off the roof and helping it separate from the car cleanly). Blocking unnecessary air from going into the engine bay with that airdam is good, but a sharp 90-degree transition at the bottom of that airdam is not good for aero. An easy way to make that a nice smooth curve is to get a length of foam pipe insulation two or three inches in diameter; slice it in half lengthwise so it's a semicircle in shape, then glue it round side out to the airdam so the bottom edge of it lines up with the bottom edge of the airdam. So that from the side (with the car aiming to the right), a cross section would look like a lowercase b.
@bobroberts2371
@bobroberts2371 Жыл бұрын
12:10 Cold exhaust at idle. This is typical for a diesel. The excess air running through the cylinders keeps the engine cool. This is why idling a diesel for long periods is a bad thing as it leads to " Wet Stacking" / lots of carbon. Some gas engines during a cooling system failure shut down alternating injectors to limp home the car.
@heitorbernardes7977
@heitorbernardes7977 Жыл бұрын
The spoiler helps with drag. It elevates the trunk and helps the flow to reattach. If you want to reduce drag further, look into making sharp separation edges on it and on the bumper.
@drippingwax
@drippingwax Жыл бұрын
There is a diagram of this car on the Ecomodder forums, thread #40628. The back of the car should taper like the Insight. The top of the spoiler is about 4" too low.
@heitorbernardes7977
@heitorbernardes7977 Жыл бұрын
@@drippingwax even if it's too low, it will help. And there's nothing that says you can't modify it. Wool tufts will tell pretty much everything he needs to know.
@heitorbernardes7977
@heitorbernardes7977 Жыл бұрын
@@drippingwax lol what diagram? That template? 🤣🤣🤣
@drippingwax
@drippingwax Жыл бұрын
@@heitorbernardes7977 Filling the wake is supposed to help.
@heitorbernardes7977
@heitorbernardes7977 Жыл бұрын
@@drippingwax you don't use a template for this. You either test or use CFD to get an idea of how the wake is.
@HaIoThree
@HaIoThree Жыл бұрын
Looking forward to the turbo test. Diesels LOVE boost
@MariuszChr
@MariuszChr Жыл бұрын
Yup, turbo made diesel mainstream
@randalltufts3321
@randalltufts3321 Жыл бұрын
The extra air from boost will help cool the exhaust some up to a point as it will lean the mixture back out to normal. The mixture now is rich , and should be running cooler but its diesel and I don't know enough about the fuel system. Normal exhaust operating ranges can vary and be quite high on some engines. This is at full load in 5th right now . Its laboring. Boost will make a huge difference. 6 to 10 lbs. Would be a great improvement
@rjov1998
@rjov1998 Жыл бұрын
on mechanical pumps the optimal pump setting is a little smoke at low rpm and clean burn near top, put a cold air intake because without the engine bay airflow the under hood temps might get really high and especially diesels need really cold air for best performance, if you run out of fuelpump you can raise the inlet pressure to the pump in mercedes mechanical pumps you can raise it from stock 1 bar to 2 bar without problems dont know how much you can raise it on that and if you still dont have enough fuel you can make a water/meth injection system and get a little bit more, pump timing makes a lot of difference especially at higher rpm, 800c egt temps shouldnt be a problem, i havent had any problems on my mercedes om603 without piston oil squirters, thank you for the great videos cant wait for the next one!😄
@bhash96530
@bhash96530 Жыл бұрын
Thanks Jimbo! Once again you made my weekend better! I brag on your channel all the time and the shenanigans you get in to, love it!
@robotcantina8957
@robotcantina8957 Жыл бұрын
Rock on!
@geneticfury7663
@geneticfury7663 Жыл бұрын
Dope ass channel keep her coming!
@petermorey4197
@petermorey4197 Жыл бұрын
I’m loving the channel! Everything I’ve ever seen from home built aero says that’s your problem. Remove the front covers, which will improve the aerodynamics and probably help keep your EGT down.
@consaka1
@consaka1 Жыл бұрын
More fuel equals more heat only to the point that it will flow air. Controlling combustion temps is an art unto itself. Controlling the oil temperature is very important since that also helps control piston temps. The affect of piston oilers is not as great as most people think because oil is naturally being slung up against the bottom of the pistons anyway. Control intake air temp and oil temp and water temp and you find it much easier to control combustion temps. Increase the fuel until you need water injection to control combustion temps. Aluminum melts at 1000-1200 degrees if I remember correctly BUT just because your egt hits 1000 does not mean that's how hot your piston is. The constant cooling of the pistons from the skirts and the oil on the bottom of the piston keeps it much cooler. Keep that oil temp below 190F and it will work wonders to keep your piston the proper size. On the bonus side the water injection gives a bit of a power boost you can feel in the seat of your pants. My experience is via a GM 6.5 turbo diesel marine build in an old van with no intercooler. Just a "devil's own" water injection kit. Extra large oil cooler with auxiliary oil cooler. I've hit 1100 degrees with it climbing some mountain passes. I'm a chicken so I don't push it past that much. I've heard of guys pushing higher though.
@whyidontknow7113
@whyidontknow7113 Жыл бұрын
Id recommend advancing the pump timing to make some power
@blubb7711
@blubb7711 Жыл бұрын
I also thought about that, but for finding the best setting, you would need a dynamometer. I don´t know what diesel he uses, but the engine is probably already tuned really advanced for low grade diesel, so retarding might do the trick.
@ramentaryramblings
@ramentaryramblings Жыл бұрын
yeah, i would just watch because its not a dynamic adjustment, so setting it 15 degrees early may hurt the low end a lot and make it really smokey
@piotrcurious1131
@piotrcurious1131 Жыл бұрын
@@ramentaryramblings actually it would be interesting to add Arduino with stepper or servo to adjust it on the fly
@ReubenHorner
@ReubenHorner Жыл бұрын
@@piotrcurious1131 could be pretty hard. To adjust injection timing you need to rotate the fuel pump in relation to the engine. There is plenty of force and any backlash would be bad
@piotrcurious1131
@piotrcurious1131 Жыл бұрын
@@ReubenHorner As injector follows the cam, and there is adjustment screw allowing offsetting, one can merely install servo to change the offset following the cam angle. That means servo must do it fast, and ofc there will be wear&lubrication challenges, but for one-off experiment this can work and there are servos fast enough to do it without much sweat.
@miketoney1660
@miketoney1660 Жыл бұрын
stop messing around and bolt on the turbo, I have this same engine and want to know what its capable of, lol. todays video answered a lot of questions I've had about the fuel enrichment screw, thanks.
@jasondreams202
@jasondreams202 Жыл бұрын
Every time a video is posted I can’t wait to click and watch… of all the content this is the channel I get the most excited for
@P1Gman
@P1Gman Жыл бұрын
This is one of the best shows on the entire KZfaqs.
@iantaylor4868
@iantaylor4868 Жыл бұрын
Needs a air dog 165gpm lift pump,125hp injectors and a 63mm turbo and it will be golden 🤣
@magnulof
@magnulof Жыл бұрын
Love your videos!
@Hammboss4life
@Hammboss4life Жыл бұрын
I love love LOVE this project and I can’t wait to see future videos 😀
@GIGABACHI
@GIGABACHI Жыл бұрын
A fire breathing monster and a speed demon if I ever saw one ! 🤣 Great job, RC Team ! I so much prefer these type of videos than the big dollar budget with the sponsors and unattainable results by the humble home mechanic. I'm watching this as a wolf down some brunch. Your videos make it all better. 👌😃👍
@keepyourbilsteins
@keepyourbilsteins Жыл бұрын
Excellent progress Jimbo! Do I hear a bad wheel bearing? That is additional mechanical drag if so. Does the Saturn trans use atf or gear oil? If the latter, then a swap to GM Synchromesh oil will reduce drag further. Look forward to the turbo installation!
@hyperfox805
@hyperfox805 Жыл бұрын
Im hearing the wheel bearing as well..
@alanmeadows4056
@alanmeadows4056 Жыл бұрын
man this channel is so charming. Just curious, are you getting weird harmonics with that engine or smaller wheels/tires? i hear some odd noise on your acceleration test.
@natedetailscars
@natedetailscars Жыл бұрын
Sounds like the space saver spares making a ton of road noise.
@robotcantina8957
@robotcantina8957 Жыл бұрын
Yes, there is a noise... the right side wheel bearing is failing. Good ears!
@mommapanda5736
@mommapanda5736 Жыл бұрын
@@robotcantina8957 I try to regard books as if they were like fish, “catch and release.” Once I’ve read a book, unless it is exceptionally special, I donate it to put it back out in the world for others to enjoy.
@tblosser8921
@tblosser8921 Жыл бұрын
A little info on diesel egts, as you said there is no throttle for air so at low power times they'll run extremely lean which keeps the exhaust cool because there isn't enough energy in the fuel to make excessive heat, same reason for high idle switches for cold warm up. With adding a turbo if you can keep it at that point of being lean enough to keep cool it should be very efficient. Many people on the internet will argue this but if you add enough fuel you can keep the egts down as well, and get more power than lean cool. Another option would be injecting straight methanol under boost, I would expect impressive results from that. I would expect that lil engine to hold up to a decent amount of boost if you keep the egts down, don't turn up the timing, and keep the charge temp cool.
@billharris6886
@billharris6886 Жыл бұрын
Hey Jimbo, thanks for another cool video. It's amazing the interest us mechanical types have in retrofitting an old Saturn with a garden tractor engine. Figured I would add my 2 cents, hopefully not covered under other comments. This little engine is probably used at 1,500 to 2,000 rpm in the garden tractor application so, I wouldn't be too surprised if fuel delivery was subpar at redline engine speeds. Since it is January and air temperatures will vary considerably from one week to the next, or even morning to afternoon, it may be difficult to compare "apples to apples". The colder temperatures (obviously) increasing tire rolling resistance and the air is more dense. Using a consistent tire pressure would help (which you are probably already doing). When I owned Saturn SLs and SCs, to give the best weight distribution across the contact patch equated to 42 - 44 in the front, 28 - 30 in the rear. With your lightened Saturn, I suggest 40 - 42 front, 27 - 28 rear.
@jreererer8490
@jreererer8490 Жыл бұрын
Can't wait for a turbo
@ThriftStoreHacker
@ThriftStoreHacker Жыл бұрын
This would be interesting to run on the salt flats, probably do very well in a power/weight calculated division
@maxhammick948
@maxhammick948 Жыл бұрын
It's good to see you've recovered enough to get back on the road! I hope your family has recovered from The Thing That Must Not Be Named.
@jasonnoteboom4489
@jasonnoteboom4489 Жыл бұрын
I think the lack of improved acceleration time to 55mph (1:09.50) can be attributed to the lower power from having to shift to 5th (as well as time needed to shift). It looks like times to 50mph were about 50 seconds with the big wheels/tires and about 44.5 seconds with the small wheels/tires. I think if you were able to use a CVT and all other variables were the same, the times between big and small tires would be most noticeable. That is, unless I’m missing something here, which happens from time to time. That said, I love these kinds of projects. Thanks for sharing yours!
@scrotiemcboogerballs1981
@scrotiemcboogerballs1981 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing this engine was new wasn’t it when you started so it’s not broken in yet so it should run better after you run it more and change the oil once I’d think
@robotcantina8957
@robotcantina8957 Жыл бұрын
That is correct, the engine is a 2013 build, but it was started for the first time in September of 2022. I reckon its time for an oil change already.
@ferrumignis
@ferrumignis Жыл бұрын
That little diesel sounds lovely, though I've always like the noise that 3 cylinder engines make. The fuel delivery on a turbo diesel should be matched to boost pressure, otherwise you'll still get smoke off boost. If you were keen I suppose you could use a servo or stepper to adjust the rack stop automatically if that is a problem.
@robotcantina8957
@robotcantina8957 Жыл бұрын
My Mercedes OM603 turbo diesel had a little gizmo that adjusted the fuel according to the boost pressure. Obviously this Kubota engine doesn't have that, but you are correct and one could be fabricated with a stepper motor on the rack stop. This is kinda the plan, but the engine will have to come out of the car for that mod. In the meantime we will have to deal with a temporary over rich condition as the turbo spools up.
@JCGver
@JCGver Жыл бұрын
@@robotcantina8957 An interresting test would be how the engine runs with the turbo but the same tuning as it had without the turbo. The alternative used in cars will be kinda hard with this engine: Don't stomp down the go pedal from a start. But rather ease into it until you have boost. But yeah with this little power WOT is probably the only option to get this thing moving.
@gilesburrett3844
@gilesburrett3844 Жыл бұрын
Great work I always advise fitting a electric fuel pump and 3psi will greatly assist fuel pump and add ease of bleeding up fuel an old diesel engine will appreciate the modified fuel system and be more spirited in its gallop lol 😆 thank you 😊
@ocdman202
@ocdman202 Жыл бұрын
@Robotcantina Telegrams reached their peak popularity in the 1920s and 1930s when it was cheaper to send a telegram than to place a long distance telephone call. People would save money by using the word "stop" instead of periods to end sentences because punctuation was extra while the four character word was free. Telegrams were used to announce the first flight in 1903 and the start of World War I. During World War II, the sight of a Western Union courier was feared because the War Department, the precursor to the Department of Defense, used the company to notify families of the death of their loved ones serving in the military, Chayet said. With long distance rates dropping and different technologies for communicating evolving - including the internet - Western Union phased out couriers in the late 1960s and early 1970s. By the way what kind of prize are you talkin here?
@mommapanda5736
@mommapanda5736 Жыл бұрын
@@ocdman202 The Model T was introduced to the world in 1908. Henry Ford wanted the Model T to be affordable, simple to operate, and durable. The vehicle was one of the first mass production vehicles, allowing Ford to achieve his aim of manufacturing the universal car. Telegrams went the way of the Model T..
@mommapanda5736
@mommapanda5736 Жыл бұрын
The lights of the original Model T were not electric. The common lamps used on horse drawn vehicles were the lamps used on the Model T, this meant it used acetylene carbide headlights and oil side lamps. Electric lighting and electric starting became available for the Model T late in production during the 1920’s.
@Pallanamnjavelet
@Pallanamnjavelet Жыл бұрын
Turbulence inpacts aerodynamics a lot. Covering up all the panel gaps, window edges and headlight wells with self-adhesive tape or vinyl should do some good. Also reducing the ride height by like 6 ft, and adding a cover sheet for the undercarriage. Then there's the unsprung mass, and also getting enough air into the wheel wells to stop drag on the tires. Basically everything people did to 70's Nascar racers will work. Also this diesel engine is screaming for a turbo! Love the content by the way, keep it coming! =D
@anidiotinaracingcar4874
@anidiotinaracingcar4874 Жыл бұрын
You don't need a wind tunnel, I'm sure a CFD company or a CFD engineer would be happy to help you model the car and run the *simulations*
@popupheadlights
@popupheadlights Жыл бұрын
One thing that can help is lighter wheels. I’m sure those little steelies are pretty light but when it comes to rolling only a few pounds means a lot more. I’m sure you knew that though just wanna see some nice rims on the beast performance wise that this is
@Ian-of9oi
@Ian-of9oi Жыл бұрын
Yay. The smaller wheels were my suggestion from a few videos ago. Maybe you were going to do it anyway. Looking forward to seeing the results.
@dragosm.7881
@dragosm.7881 Жыл бұрын
can't wait for the day you buy a v8 sedan like the ls400 and put in the work to get 40 mpg . keep it up!
@UnfinishedProjectDartSport
@UnfinishedProjectDartSport Жыл бұрын
Sweet!!
@acez4371
@acez4371 Жыл бұрын
I think you should use the insight wheels on the saturn to test if the lighter weight, combined with the wheel design could reduce drag and make it go faster! I just looked, and both sets of wheels should have a 4x100 bolt pattern with an offset range around 45. Who knows, maybe even a cardboard and duct tape mock up panel to copy the insight (rear wheel well panel) would help too!
@robotcantina8957
@robotcantina8957 Жыл бұрын
Great point!
@xzkt
@xzkt Жыл бұрын
Another good video. Not sure why I find your videos so interesting but I am like a kid on Christmas eve waiting for Santa to bring presents as I wait for your next video. lol Phil
@seansean1709
@seansean1709 Жыл бұрын
This feels like if the Mythbusters narrator had an episode all to himself lol
@maxspruit8370
@maxspruit8370 Жыл бұрын
I think the boot spoiler really helps earo dinamics. In some other video i saw it helps with flow separation of the boot. Those jelly bean styled cars date from a time with a genuine oil crisis and they were not fooling around.
@drippingwax
@drippingwax Жыл бұрын
There is a diagram of this car on the Ecomodder forums, thread #40628. The back of the car should taper like the Insight. The top of the spoiler is about 4" too low.
@piotrcurious1131
@piotrcurious1131 Жыл бұрын
it is not. Rear separation is more or less negligent at low speeds.. He did cover the front hole creating much more drag in the front. It would be probably better to just chop off the front bottom completely and make new bottom cover.
@drippingwax
@drippingwax Жыл бұрын
@@piotrcurious1131 Are you claiming that the car has less drag winding through the engine bay than over a grill block and hood?
@piotrcurious1131
@piotrcurious1131 Жыл бұрын
@@drippingwax there is not much inside engine bay and at such low speeds it does not seem to matter. I did experiment with the front grille and bottom hole a bit and adding straight up surfaces creating flat point of contact is what causes losses. pressure just has to go somewhere. Anyway perhaps best thing is to actually experiment, so f.e. using duct tape and cardboard instead of too much theory and fixed design. Early aerodynamics adopters also figured it out - there are simply too many variables. Perhaps reason why air going thru engine bay gives better fuel economy is that it merely creates higher pressure for engine, so more cool air into engine. Who knows.
@drippingwax
@drippingwax Жыл бұрын
@@piotrcurious1131 Not much inside an engine bay?! :D We are finished talking! :D
@angrodNumenesse
@angrodNumenesse Жыл бұрын
Having a 999cc turbo 3 cylinder gasser in my daily driver, I find this series quite intriguing. My brother has the same car I do but with the naturally aspirated 4 cylinder. We both have five speeds and the difference is very noticeable. His transmission has much shorter gearing and close ratios. Mine has much taller gears and significantly wider ratios which I assume is to give my turbo a chance to spool up and do something. I'm curious if the close ratio transmission is going to be a problem during acceleration once the little Kubota gets the Turbota.
@ReubenHorner
@ReubenHorner Жыл бұрын
The reason is because a turbo engine (even a smaller one than N/A) has a much more broad torque curve. You can happily make plenty of grunt at 2500rpm where na might have to rev to 3500.
@musicauthority7828
@musicauthority7828 Жыл бұрын
The pyrometer (exhaust gas temperature), is the best way to know just how a diesel engine is performing. you can figure as the exhaust temperature rises water temperature will rise along with it. there is some amount of over fueling that is acceptable. but if your smelling raw unburnt fuel then it's over fueling too much. a small puff of black smoke when shifting gears is acceptable. as long as that is the only smoke that is detected. there is a huge difference between turbo charged and naturally aspirated engines. and you want to have an intercooler with the turbo. but you will really have to keep an eye on the pyrometer. if the temperature rises too possibly nine hundred degrees for that engine. back out of the throttle and the will drop. and on both turbo charged and naturally aspirated engines you will want make sure the exhaust system is large enough diameter. it's important that diesels have free flowing exhaust. and don't ever shut off a turbo charged diesel with the pyrometer over six hundred degrees. I know this from many years of being an OTR truck driver and have ran a lot of turned up diesels.
@802Garage
@802Garage Жыл бұрын
Fun stuff as always. I'm excited for the turbo!
@Iowa599
@Iowa599 Жыл бұрын
Mount motorcycle tires on the spare wheels! (idk if motorcycle tires are better durability than "temp spare tires", because they don't last much longer on a vehicle that weighs ~1/4 as much, with twice the tires)
@mfbfreak
@mfbfreak Жыл бұрын
Motorcycle tires on a motorcycle last 10.000, mayyyybe 20.000km. They're often really heavily tailored to offering great traction over life span or rolling resistance. It's the reason why some long distance riders mount car tires on their motorcycle. As long as you don't have to corner, it works fine. Motorcycle tires on a car? You'd shred them really quickly.
@Iowa599
@Iowa599 Жыл бұрын
@@mfbfreak to quote a distance motorcycle tires last without knowing what the use or motorcycle isn't a good idea. IE: the front tire on my CB600 lasts almost 15k miles, the rear lasts just over 7k, but front & rear on my GL1100 last almost 20k, because the tire (compounds & tread pattern) are chosen for intended use, & they are ridden very differently. Also, one of my current projects is a homemade car with a goal of 1200lb curb weight, and I have spare wheels from a car for the front, with cruiser bike tires. I also have a solid front axle with -3+° of camber (lowest possible currently, depending on choices for SAI & caster), for the looks. (it's a ratrod hack of a Locost, because I can)
@goclunker
@goclunker Жыл бұрын
Just get smart car tires on the donuts
@mfree80286
@mfree80286 Жыл бұрын
I'm helping with engagement! Not really much to add on this one that others haven't stated... great stuff.
@projectLSaudiA4
@projectLSaudiA4 Жыл бұрын
Subscribed for more madness in future. Now I dare you to design and test ducted fuel injector nozzles and install a compound turbo setup for the little Kubota diesel for ultimate efficiency.
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