Saab 29 - J29 Tunnan | The first Swedish jet that went into combat

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Weapon Detective

Weapon Detective

Күн бұрын

We are investigating the Saab 29 Tunnan, a fierce warrior hidden under this cute appearance. #j29 #fighterjet #aviation #swedishairforce #försvarsmakten
Special thanks to the Zoldi 211 channel for permitting us to use its beautiful footage.
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What is the story behind the creation of the Saab 29?
What were the features of the Tunnan?
What were the differences between the Saab 29's variants?
Why did the aircraft have such a high accident ratio?
00:00 Introduction
01:08 Programme history
03:56 Design
06:27 Variants
09:04 Users
09:14 Specifications
10:08 Operational history
12:11 High accident rate
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@WeaponDetective
@WeaponDetective 4 ай бұрын
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@petter5721
@petter5721 4 ай бұрын
You make great videos! There are no videos about the Swede Alf Lysholm who invented a jet engine and patented it 1932. Bofors built it and the engine was tested in 1934. This would be a fantastic story 😀
@duartesimoes508
@duartesimoes508 3 ай бұрын
See? This is what happens to a F-86 after she accidentally climbs to 200 000 feet. All bloated... 😀
@jaws848
@jaws848 4 ай бұрын
Great little jet for its time...first ever model kit i built many years ago as a child was the Matchbox 1/72 kit of this jet back in the mid 80s
@ga4527
@ga4527 4 ай бұрын
I had the same!
@duartesimoes508
@duartesimoes508 3 ай бұрын
Are you sure it was Matchbox and not Heller? I built dozains of aircraft models, mostly in the eighties, ending up with slightly less than 500 but I don't recall a J29 from Matchbox. Mine is from Heller, 72 scale and decals for UN and Swedish Air Force and I never saw any other, in Portugal at least. Sure it was Matchbox? What series was it? All the best.
@jaws848
@jaws848 3 ай бұрын
@@duartesimoes508 absloutley matchbox...google images should have pictures of it.
@jaws848
@jaws848 3 ай бұрын
@@duartesimoes508 yes Matchbox...google it
@jaws848
@jaws848 3 ай бұрын
Yes 100% matchbox.kit number 40033 .​@@duartesimoes508
@vicolin6126
@vicolin6126 3 ай бұрын
In an interview with a Swedish Viggen pilot, he explained that the Swedish flight-rulebook was written in blood. He referred to the many, many, accidents caused by the doctrine of always training like it was an actual war. Especially the fact that pilots where told to fly very low, and many times so low that they would scrape the bottoms of their aircrafts on treetops. So, every word in that rulebook basically came from experiences of all who had died, and told the pilots what not to do. There is a huge memorial in Sweden that lists the names of all the pilots that died during the cold war.
@habahan4257
@habahan4257 4 ай бұрын
Thanks for the video. such a sweetish aircraft
@robbudden
@robbudden 4 ай бұрын
It is a gorgeous jet. That cockpit is aesthetics meets function personified
@aking-plums6985
@aking-plums6985 4 ай бұрын
It reminds me of an updated Gloster E28/39 =)
@mohammedsaysrashid3587
@mohammedsaysrashid3587 4 ай бұрын
It was an informative and wonderful video about Swedish designed jet aircraft ( Saab 29- J29 Tunnan versions) ,video clearly labeled to characteristics of all versions sufficiently, also labeled to historical backgrounds of that pioneers jet engine aircraft's designed by Sweden 🇸🇪. Thank you for an excellent ( weapon detective 🕵️‍♂️) channel for sharing this wonderful video
@petesheppard1709
@petesheppard1709 4 ай бұрын
Thanks! Especially the film of those early jets.
@HellbirdIV
@HellbirdIV 4 ай бұрын
Tunnan is one of my favourite planes of all time, one of the first I learned about at airshows here in Sweden. It's a testament to Swedish technological prowess at that time, as it was a really impressive feat for a small country like Sweden to produce a modern fighter on par with the very best the superpowers were able to put out. You mentionend its first flight in September of '48, which was just 1 year after the similar MiG-15 and F-86 Saber both made their first flights in '47! It may never have gotten the same battle-testing in dogfights the way the MiG-15 and Saber did, but that's what you get for choosing your enemies wisely!
@The_ZeroLine
@The_ZeroLine 4 ай бұрын
It also looks ridiculously fun to fly.
@bholdr----0
@bholdr----0 4 ай бұрын
SAAB has always been on the bleeding edge, from this plane to today in many ways... Also, remember the bumper stickers from the 1990s on SAAB 900s, etc, that said: 'My Other SAAB Is A Jet'? (I always wanted a 900, but they're hard to find).
@The_ZeroLine
@The_ZeroLine 4 ай бұрын
These look so fun. The fact they named it Barrel shows the Swedes have a good sense of humor.
@danielkarlsson9326
@danielkarlsson9326 3 ай бұрын
Usual comments from the Pilots who ahd flown them was: Like a Barrel or Ugly duckling on the ground, but a Swallow in the air.
@Nallpeter
@Nallpeter Ай бұрын
@@danielkarlsson9326 Dessa ord kom från den engelske testflygare som hyrdes in för utprovningen av Tunnan.
@tor6684
@tor6684 8 күн бұрын
And for your fun... it slowly got "better". The next SAAB plane was named J32 Lansen (the Lance, as it basically was a human operable naval missile, on top of a bunch of naval missiles), followed by J35 Draken (in Swedish, the Kite, or the Dragon), J37 Viggen (the Tufted Duck , or the Thunderbolt), and J39 Gripen (the Gryphon (SAAB's logo), or Affected/Arrested). These quirky (although genius) SAAB guys demonstrably just don't pick their aircraft names out of thin air.
@lucianohelvecioteixeira.9995
@lucianohelvecioteixeira.9995 4 ай бұрын
Congratulações como é se esperar mais um ótimo vídeo vocês são o número 1
@michaelogden5958
@michaelogden5958 4 ай бұрын
Wow! What a cool looking plane!
@Babicoste
@Babicoste 4 ай бұрын
This J29 Tunnan and YAK 130, those are cutie little plane
@mattiasdahlstrom2024
@mattiasdahlstrom2024 3 ай бұрын
My mother had a friend when in nursing school, who's boyfriend was a Tunnan pilot that lost his life when the ejection seat deployed while on the runway.
@duartesimoes508
@duartesimoes508 3 ай бұрын
I don't even want to imagine what was like ejecting from an "ejection seat developed in 1943." I guess that besides having a limited envelope you had to do everything yourself; eject the canopy, eject the seat, select the emergency oxygen, unstrap, push yourself out of the seat and open your chute. 😬 In modern seats, besides being able to eject in about almost any altitude, attitude and speed all you need to do is to pull the ejection handle and then you may even faint; the seat design will do _everything else_ for you, including inflate your life vest and dinghy and turn on your ELT beeper. Outstanding. In a flat spin you still have to jettison the canopy first, or you risk hitting it with the seat.
@danielkarlsson9326
@danielkarlsson9326 3 ай бұрын
Actually it was the first/Second ejection seat system in the world. It was in fact Semiautomatic so alot of the thing you just spoke was in fact done by the ejection system and the pilot could eject both at low altitude and high altitude with it. The Swedish name for it was Rakestol or Rocket Chair as it was rocket propelled while escaping the cockpit. Been a while since i read up about it but it really was a much more developed system then the Counterpart which was American if i remember correctly.
@user-je5do6jn2f
@user-je5do6jn2f 4 ай бұрын
The Swedish Combat Keg!
@wiktorberski9272
@wiktorberski9272 4 ай бұрын
The flying barrel :) Pretty nice name. And quite interesting aircraft too
@bombfog1
@bombfog1 4 ай бұрын
Awesome. Didn’t know about this aircraft.
@petter5721
@petter5721 4 ай бұрын
A true exceptionell fighter.
@HighSideHustler81
@HighSideHustler81 4 ай бұрын
That’s such a epic story about when they arrested that guy and took copy’s of that Messerschmitt plans , I never heard that one befor 🙏👍
@arudegesture
@arudegesture 4 ай бұрын
People tend to forget that Sweden had the 4th largest air force in the world during the 1950's.
@tornasever
@tornasever 4 ай бұрын
can you please make a video about the m1117 guardian and its derivatives? ty
@theyusar8247
@theyusar8247 4 ай бұрын
11:05 Wonder if they fly in 2-tone dark green camo and plan their route in such a way that it looks like they appear to come from secret bases in the arctic
@asyik6
@asyik6 4 ай бұрын
I always wonder if Me-P1101 has its influenced on this fighter, turn out it is 😁
@danielkarlsson9326
@danielkarlsson9326 3 ай бұрын
Both yes and no, The hull was already designed and the fact was that some engineers on SAAB had argued for swept wings which people at that time thought of only as a theory. But with the drawings from meschersmitt showing it was indeed possible they descided to redesign it with a swept wing design. But J29 wing ar diffrent than the P1101 with less edges and amore curved design whilst American, USSR and English swept crafts of this time more or less had the exactly same design as the P1101. As always when it comes to military designs "its complicated"
@bholdr----0
@bholdr----0 4 ай бұрын
The empenage/engine placement seems reminiscent of the Voodoo and Phantom. (Though it preceeded them- I wonder of there is a connection there?)
@yarmud
@yarmud 4 ай бұрын
All of my pregnant goldfishes lookes like it
@avnrulz8587
@avnrulz8587 4 ай бұрын
I always cringe when I hear, "destroyed in place due to cost".
@jaws848
@jaws848 4 ай бұрын
Also "not to fall into enemy hands"
@duartesimoes508
@duartesimoes508 3 ай бұрын
We did the same to all the Portuguese Air Force F-84G we deployed to Luanda in the sixties, but they were being phased out anyway. We also deployed eight F-86F to Guinea Bissau, but the US Government told us in no uncertain terms to return them to Mainland Portugal, as they were allocated to NATO Forces... 🙄
@cwf_media9200
@cwf_media9200 4 ай бұрын
In German Tonne is a Thing you Put Trash in but the tunnan isnt Trash xd
@Lasenggo
@Lasenggo 4 ай бұрын
10:29 this is wrong. The Iranian F-86F's and the Italian F-86E's (later used by the Philippine contingent) were fighting on behalf of the UN in Congo.
@WeaponDetective
@WeaponDetective 4 ай бұрын
Yes, we also found the footage of the F-86. Yet, even though they performed missions for the U.N., they did not have the U.N. roundel. Only the Saab 29 had.
@Lasenggo
@Lasenggo 4 ай бұрын
​@@WeaponDetective"The Tunnans were the only combat aircraft operated on behalf of the U.N." is what you said on the video and not that they were the only one's with UN roundel. Which is also wrong as there are plenty of pictures showing the F-86's with the ONU markings along with some Tunnans that also have ONU markings which was the French abbreviation for the UN operation.
@WeaponDetective
@WeaponDetective 4 ай бұрын
@@Lasenggo Thanks for your interest. Yes, you are right. We did misphrase by using "only combat aircraft operated on behalf of the U.N." Thanks for your correction. Still, the ONU marking is not the U.N. roundel. These F-86s had their national roundel alongside the ONU marking. Not the U.N. roundel.
@Lasenggo
@Lasenggo 4 ай бұрын
@@WeaponDetective thanks for acknowledging that it was misphrased and that there were indeed the F-86's and not just the Tunnans fighting in behalf of UN. I was also just about to edit my previous comment as I've seen that IIAF F-86's were actually using English markings and had UN roundel on their aircraft instead of ONU so again it is not just the Tunnans with the UN markings. But if you want to nitpick and say that the Tunnans were the only aircraft that only had purely UN markings on them that fought for UN then that should be clearly worded. My concern was really just that it was misinformation to claim that the Tunnans were the only aircrafts fighting for UN in Congo when the F-86's were actually there. Good video nonetheless and hope to see more.
@petter5721
@petter5721 4 ай бұрын
Tunnan was used by Swedish UN troops in Kongo
@duchovicius5520
@duchovicius5520 4 ай бұрын
All these jets were based on German Ta-183..
@JD96893
@JD96893 4 ай бұрын
possible, however its more likely their knowledge of jet engines, and aerodynamics was limited, like everywhere else, which lead to many similar designs. Almost every jet from this period has a similar appearance.
@biboyumandar1538
@biboyumandar1538 4 ай бұрын
This is the F-86 Sabre that got left in the kitchen with all the bunch of burgers, spaghetti, french fries, doughnuts left by his mom. He seems doesnt care until his waist and weight increased. And that is the story of the evolution of the F-86 Sabre that became the Saab 29 Tunnan. The Fatso Sabre.
@Xerdoz
@Xerdoz 4 ай бұрын
This jet ate all the kaka.
@MaxKrumholz
@MaxKrumholz 4 ай бұрын
IT BULLSHIT IT BAD COPY
@biboyumandar1538
@biboyumandar1538 4 ай бұрын
This is the F-86 Sabre that got left in the kitchen with all the bunch of burgers, spaghetti, french fries, doughnuts left by his mom. He seems doesnt care until his waist and weight increased. And that is the story of the evolution of the F-86 Sabre that became the Saab 29 Tunnan. The Fatso Sabre.
@petter5721
@petter5721 4 ай бұрын
Tunna even outperformed MIG 21 in most aspects 🇸🇪👍🏻
@biboyumandar1538
@biboyumandar1538 4 ай бұрын
@@petter5721 Thats the biggest joke i've heard today. Please dont even try to be a comedian. It wont work.
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