The Aircraft Design that Took the World by Storm

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Жыл бұрын

The squadron of Saab J29 Tunnans swiftly took to the skies. Despite their age, the Swedish pilots took great pride in these venerable aircraft. Also known as the Flying Barrel, it was the first successful post-World War 2 jet fighter to feature a swept wing design, and it remained a formidable force when used in the Republic of Congo in 1961.
Although the jungle terrain of the African country differed significantly from the cold, misty mountains of Scandinavia, the Tunnan had no trouble executing United Nations missions over the war-torn Congolese skies.
As they descended to a lower altitude, the squadron of Swedish Tunnans approached their target and unleashed their AIM-9B Sidewinder missiles upon the enemy.
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@danko6582 Жыл бұрын

The Swedish military aerospace industry has always had the advantage of not being undermined by either the British or Canadian parliaments.

@chriswandatownley1 Жыл бұрын

Or United States Generals!

@DMSparky Жыл бұрын

That could be said for most things here in Canada…

@infeedel7706 Жыл бұрын

Sveridge made great engineers, they batted way above their weight for so many years. tbh, it was a great country to visit. One needs a fat wallet to visit there though, but hat may have changed with all the de-culturing over the last 15-20 years.

@infeedel7706 Жыл бұрын

661 units in the 60s, put some perspective on that given Sweden's population...

@neilturner6749 Жыл бұрын

@@infeedel7706 that’s practically one per person!

@Jimbotheone Жыл бұрын

I saw one of them fly in Linköping yesterday. 32 Lansen, 35 Draken, 37 Viggen, and 39 Gripen as well. They put up a good show!

@DEATH-THE-GOAT Жыл бұрын

Lyckost! 😉

@vincenttorna8698 Жыл бұрын

wow

@drzoidnilsson73 Жыл бұрын

Wow - there is still at least one flying then. I wondered some months ago if there wasn't some kept in flying mode but thought there wasn't any. Very nice that there is at least one. (my father was loader mechanic of Tunnan and Lansen and since he was born he thus he was put in the reserve already 4 y after military service since the newer planes took over)

@MegaGronis 4 ай бұрын

1 year ago i was in Linköping and i saw a sk 60 flying over their residence.

@SanoyNimbus Жыл бұрын

At least one of the Tunnan from Congo was returned to Sweden ... and is in a storage at the Flygvapenmuseum in Linköping (Air Force Museum), the home town of SAAB ... It is put on kind of a display mode in the storage, so sometimes special visitors can have access to it. Unfortunately for the museum the bullet holes on the aircraft was patched ...

@RhINO4711 Жыл бұрын

The J29 at Flygvapenmuseum is not one that flew in Congo, or at least that's what the guide told me, it is painted as one though.

@K.O-Oskar Жыл бұрын

im going there this summmer

@stettan1 Жыл бұрын

I saw the only airworthy Tunnan fly in a little airshow at the Saab factory four days ago. Lovely❤

@Colaflaskan_ Жыл бұрын

I sat in that exact plane you are talking about once, and yes, it flew for the UN and was patched.

@iommi88 Жыл бұрын

Trollhättan is the home town of SAAB though.

@user-ws3mu4jo6w Жыл бұрын

fun fact: austrian airforce used them in the 1960s, some former luftwaffe me262-pilots from austria flew them. when they were made obsolete, one saab was placed in front of the barracks nearby where i grew up. as kids we played there and even sat in the cockpit, as it was not locked. it is now in a private museum

@franzobernosterer2557 Жыл бұрын

Ja, in Goisern , wenn ich mich recht erinnere und eine in Zeltweg

@joemcsilver8098 Жыл бұрын

@@franzobernosterer2557 In der Ramsau bei Schladming stand auch eine.

@alfaDude156 Жыл бұрын

And then you got the best thing ever built, the J35 :)

@AXXeYY Жыл бұрын

Fun fact about the 20mm kanon is still in service of swedish military today. First on that PV302 and now days on the patria 6x6

@markrowland1366 Жыл бұрын

These Saab flying Barrels set world records. The British supplied hundreds of railway wagons of scientific and technical drawings, along with jet and rocket planes, engineers and pilots. One flew their top helicopter all the way to the south coast of Britten.

@joemcsilver8098 Жыл бұрын

Here in Austria there was an old J29 set on a children's playground. As a kid is was amazing for me to sit in this plane.

@mathiassvensson7911 Жыл бұрын

As a kid, my father went on a schooltrip to a mountain, in the valley below a couple of J29:s came flying and blew up an old bridge with rockets! Pretty cool!

@theregnarute Жыл бұрын

hur känns det att veta att du kommer att bli tvungen att bli muslim om max 20 år? var det värt det att vara feminist, så att alla kvinnor skulle förråda dig och ta hit miljoner inkräktare? inget samhälle finns om det samhället inte följer guds lagar.

@sirjohndough8575 Жыл бұрын

`Tunnan` is pronounced with a short `u`, not a long one. Emphasis is on the double N´s. However the J 29 was partially known as the widowmaker, due to the large number of crashes during low level flight manoeuvres. Low level flying has long been a hallmark of the Swedish Air force. A classmate of mine had lost his father in one such an accident with the J 29.

@webtoedman Жыл бұрын

In English a "Tun" is an archaic term for a large barrel of standard size and capacity. A ship's "Tunnage" was the number of barrels it could accomodate. Related languages, I presume.

@Frankie5Angels150 Жыл бұрын

Soooo… they’re not very good at it. I see.

@flexairz Жыл бұрын

@@Frankie5Angels150 And the aircraft is flawless?

@Vermiliontea Жыл бұрын

@@webtoedman From old Norse, I suppose? A lot of English language is Viking lingo, other is Latin, and old French.

@Cythil Жыл бұрын

@@Frankie5Angels150 During those days, Swedish pilots (as well as in many other nations) often push planes far more than we would do today. So you see quite a lot of planes crash during the Cold War era you would today. So a large part of that was more due to reckless flying than the plane's characteristics. Though there are also quite a lot of planes from the Cold War era which where hard to fly. Many planes known as widowmakes out there. (Just to name a few. F-104 was known as widowmaker. Most likely the best known widowmaker. And MiG-21 was also known as that or had smilier flattering nicknames. And there planes where not bad per say. Indeed there some of the most well produced jet fighters.)

@alex_the_balding_fat_man Жыл бұрын

Not convinced they used AIM-9Bs in the Congo. The aircraft were chiefly targeting ground targets using unguided missiles. The AIM-9 Sidewinder series is an air to air missile.

@markmuir7338 Жыл бұрын

Came here to say the same thing. I wonder what aircraft the Congo had...

@deez_noots Жыл бұрын

@@markmuir7338 George of the Jungle was a formidable pilot, with 6 confirmed air to air kills during his time in the Congo.

@CachingCadre Жыл бұрын

I caught that comment too, and wondered about its inclusion. Additionally, I wasn't aware that the AIM 9s were available to forces outside of US and British forces.

@colinleitch6245 Жыл бұрын

why would anyone use an air to air missile on a ground target?

@wellshutchins6885 Жыл бұрын

@@colinleitch6245 Especially a heat seeker

@davidaxman Жыл бұрын

In the 50's on average 21 pilots died each year during risky and harsh training regimes. An insane death rate compared to other nations. My grandfather worked as a mechanic on the J29 and each year someone he knew died.

@dthomas9230 Жыл бұрын

Ejection seats were not installed yet? Or didn't work properly?

@fallout44454 Жыл бұрын

@@dthomas9230No it was because the pilots flew at treetop level in pitch blackness, there are stories of planes returning with pieces of trees stuck in their undercarriage.

@BattIeFrog Жыл бұрын

@@dthomas9230 As the other guy said it was due to extremely risky training exercises and it was for almost the entire cold war not just the 50s and the j29. The goal was to train as if it was real and fly low and fast especially at night meaning alot of incidents were due to hitting water/trees or other obstacles due to this, tragic yes but also excellent for keeping the airforce in a good ready state.

@heikos4264 Жыл бұрын

@@fallout44454 stuck in an undercarriage which is inside the plane during flight...

@confusedson Жыл бұрын

[1:35] "Storm Bird" (or Sturmvogel in German) was actually the name for the ME-262 Figher Bomber variant. The original Fighter version was "Swallow" (Schwalbe in German).

@GrizzAxxemann Жыл бұрын

The Dark Team have a habit for making all kinds of mistakes. Always treat their "documentaries" as being incorrect in a lot of aspects.

@greengoblin876 Жыл бұрын

@@GrizzAxxemann Yup , not so much factual or fictional more like FICTUANAL ..

@OidHunter Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the info

@Niinsa62 Жыл бұрын

I believe Sturmvogel (Storm Bird) is German for some kind of species of albatross. So just as Schwalbe/Swallow, a very good flier. Very fitting name for that plane! On a side note, the FW190 Würger, or Butcher Bird. The German name just means Shrike. Which is also called a Butcher Bird in English. But not in German, in German it is just a Würger (Shrike). Some of those German planes have names that sound so much more evil in English translation, than they actually sound in the German original. :-)

@hyfy-tr2jy Жыл бұрын

@@Niinsa62 not Albatross. Petrel, which there is a species called a "Storm Petrel" which would be where the "Storm Bird" derives from.

@captaincurd2681 Жыл бұрын

The reason I love this jet is that it is a very cute looking plane.

@jeanmacdobea2614 Жыл бұрын

THAT PLAN "THE BARREL" ONE OF TWO BEST SWEDISHPLANE IN MY OPINION .." AND IT IS BEAUTIFUL ..

@Battlebertill Жыл бұрын

My grandfather was a mechanic on this plane when he did his military service.

@andersnilsson7917 Жыл бұрын

The R in 21R stood for "Reaktion propulsion", an early Swedish name for jet propulsion. And the J in J29 stands for Jakt, or Pursuit in English.

@antarktis2851 Жыл бұрын

Worth noting that "reaplan", short for "Reaktionsplan" is still a commonly used term for jet plane here in Sweden.

@boringpolitician Жыл бұрын

@@antarktis2851 - Aha! Jag har aldrig tänkt över vad det faktiskt står för. Hmh. Tack!

@Fuhrerjehova Жыл бұрын

Jakt would in this context be just translated to fighter. It was a fighter aircraft mainly designed for A2A combat.

@richardjonsson1745 Жыл бұрын

During the Kongo campaign (22 UN Fighter Sqn), it's not very likely that the Sidewinder was used much. The majority of the work was ground support and attack of enemy airbases, where most enemy planes were destroyed on the ground. I venture that the ordnance used was mostly rockets, bombs and cannon. (Edit; You actually state in your video that it's the F model, introduced in -63, that could carry the AIM-9. No F models were deployed in Kongo and the wing was disbanded in early -63. Two planes returned to Sweden, the rest scrapped on site.)

@alfaDude156 Жыл бұрын

Yea, the J29s in Congo were early models J29B, and later on two S29C reconnaissance were added as well. No Sidewinders but ARAK, Rockets for ground attack as shown in the video, and the 4 20mm guns were used for buildings, road vehicles, trains and other targets with good effect on target. During they height of production, one J29 rolled off the "assembyline" at Saab in Linköping every day.

@effervescentrelief Жыл бұрын

That P.1110 had a ruddervator. Way ahead of its time.

@shauny2285 Жыл бұрын

Similar to the V-tailed Beechcraft Bonanza?

@antonioesposito8071 Жыл бұрын

@@shauny2285 yes

@Parawingdelta2 Жыл бұрын

The video intimated that the British designed 'Meteor' was a post war jet. It was actually fully operational during the later stages of the war.

@edonaghy1 Жыл бұрын

Also failed to mention the British invented the jet engine Frank Whittle

@Parawingdelta2 Жыл бұрын

@@edonaghy1 The German engines had a superior design principle (basically what we have today) but had to be scrapped after 25 hours of operation.

@KOZMOuvBORG Жыл бұрын

It was fast enough to deal with the V-1 doodle-bugs

@leneanderthalien Жыл бұрын

The Meteor enter in operational service 2 or 3 months after the me 262 but the first complete Metor squadron was complete BEFORE the first « Staffel » me 262. yes the meteor mkIII was not so fast as the me 262 but was much more reliable and had better agility . But the 1945 mk4 meteor with stringer engines was a bit faster than the me 262…

@Parawingdelta2 Жыл бұрын

@@leneanderthalien And of course, was to continue for many years in later updated versions. I think it may be still in use with Martin-Baker as a test bed for their ejection seats.

@luddite6239 Жыл бұрын

Very interesting. When listing early pioneer jets, don't forget the oft overlooked Italian Caproni Campini N1, which first flew in August 1940.

@philliprobinson7724 2 ай бұрын

Hi. The CCN1 used a compressor powered by a piston engine, it lacked a high temperature power turbine in the exhaust stream, so it wasn't a true jet. This was possibly because they lacked the metallurgy to make a high temperature turbine. My guess is that Mussolini, learning of Heinkel's success and wanting desperately for Italy to be seen as "right up there with the hot-shots", told his boffins "make me a jet too, I don't care if you cheat on the bits that make it go, just as long as it looks and sounds like a real jet". Those photos of Mussolini on the podium mark him as a very proud man, in a way a true jet himself: full of hot air. Cheers, P.R.

@swedishfarmboy Жыл бұрын

Did know a old tunnan pilot, he did love the plane.

@johninnh4880 Жыл бұрын

I've never seen one of these innovative jet aircraft. Live and learn. Your videos are highly informative and are some of my favorites.

@Trajking Жыл бұрын

We have one still flying in Sweden

@hidden_matrixgaming Жыл бұрын

Sadly these videos have a lot of false information.

@robertmiller2173 Жыл бұрын

It looks very like an Aircraft that Kurt Tank had on his drawing board developed to prototype level.

@chrisgastis5535 Жыл бұрын

I thought that too

@Coyote27981 Жыл бұрын

Ta-183 Argentine Pulqui 2 (1950) was designed jointly by Kurt Tank (with his team of former Focke Wulf employees) and the Argentine team, ironically with a Rolls-Royce Nene II jet engine.

@albonyo Жыл бұрын

@@Coyote27981 pulquis 2

@Coyote27981 Жыл бұрын

@@albonyo no S, Pulqui. It means arrow head in Mapuche.

@drstrangelove4998 Жыл бұрын

It was like the Bell, and the Yak jet!

@Conn653 Жыл бұрын

LOVE your presentations! Always packed with great info. 🙂

@datamek Жыл бұрын

Worth to mention swedish types designations: J- " jakt" ( fighter) JA " jakt, attack" ( fighter bomber) S - " spaning" ( recon)

@fload46d Жыл бұрын

1939---the Germans had the jump on everybody. The Saab looks just as good as the Mig or anything the other countries had.

@hertzair1186 Жыл бұрын

The Germans were always ahead. If history is any guide…the only way to beat them is to outnumber them.

@chriswandatownley1 Жыл бұрын

The German Jet development was off the work, which the Pommy bureaucracy whose immagination Failed Britton for a long time, of Sir Frank Whittle, a truely great engineer, whith classic doggedness!

@drstrangelove4998 Жыл бұрын

@@chriswandatownley1some common sense at last here Chris, I agree.

@johnburns4017 Жыл бұрын

@Joseph Kretschmer Hans von Ohain, the leading German jet engineer, wrote a very comprehensive foreword in the 'Elements of Propulsion, Gas turbines and Rockets'. In that foreword he states: _"The first patent of a turbojet engine, which was later developed and produced, was that of_ *_Frank Whittle, now Sir Frank._* _His patent was applied for in January 1930. This patent shows a multistage, axial-flow compressor followed by a radial compressor stage, a combustor, an axial-flow turbine driving the compressor, and an exhaust nozzle. Such configurations are still used today..."_ and _"From the beginning of his jet propulsion activities, Frank Whittle had been seeking means for improving the propulsive efficiency of turbojet engines. He conceived novel ideas for which he filed a patent application in 1936, which can be called a bypass engine or turbofan. To avoid a complete new design, Whittle sought an interim solution that could be merely "tacked on" to a jet engine. This configuration was later known as the aft fan. Whittle's work on fan jets or bypass engines and aft fans was way ahead of his time. It was of greatest importance for the future or turbopropulsion."_ and _"In April 1937, Whittle had his bench-test jet engine ready for the first test run. It ran excellently; however, it ran out of control because liquid fuel had collected inside the engine and started to vaporize as the engine became hot, thereby adding uncontrolled fuel quantities to the combustion process. The problem was easily overcome._ *_This first test run was the world's first run of a bench-test jet engine operating with liquid fuel."._*

@orjanarthursson3604 10 ай бұрын

Excellent video. All important facts presented in a short video.

@OidHunter Жыл бұрын

I didn't know about this aircraft til now.. Thank you for the fascinating video 👍

@studentstudent5044 Жыл бұрын

Sweden has always been a very impressive country in everything they do❤️🇸🇪

@sameaseverybodyelse Жыл бұрын

Great video. I'm happy I wear headphones as I can enjoy the awesome sound too 👌

@robinwells8879 Жыл бұрын

Nice to pick out the wing detail developments over time as they toyed with the sound barrier and airframe critical mach number.

@hulagu3068 Жыл бұрын

that is the cutest little airplane like an advance war plane sprite.

@battleaxe51 Жыл бұрын

Look at the Focke Wulf Ta 183.

@paulkelk5142 Жыл бұрын

the Gloster Meteor flew operationally during World War 2 flying against V1 flying bombs and some ground attack missions over continental europe

@arkie14 Жыл бұрын

Don't think it flew ground attack missions- the RAF were forbidden flying it over German-held territory lest it be shot down and salvaged.

@paulkelk5142 Жыл бұрын

@@arkie14 616 squadron moved to holland at Gilze-Rijen in late 1944 and flew some reconnaisance and ground attack missions there were painted white so as not too be attacked by allied aircraft i hope this was of some help

@johngalt2506 Жыл бұрын

4 P80s were also deployed to Europe before the end of the war. 2 to England and 2 to Italy. They didn't engage in combat operations though.

@2nolhta Жыл бұрын

So, Hitler was a madman ordering Me-262 to do bombing while Churchill was genius for doing the s(h)ame?

@johngalt2506 Жыл бұрын

@@2nolhta Where are you getting that from these comments?

@anim8torfiddler871 Жыл бұрын

Thank you! Fascinating Glimpse of post-WWII military aviation history. I had never heard a PEEP about Sweden's fighter jet developments before the 1980s.

@brianartillery Жыл бұрын

Such a cool looking aircraft, even now. It was followed by the Lansen, and then by the revolutionary Draken and Viggen.

@darkiee69 Жыл бұрын

It's so fun to see the Me 262 in a tail dragger configuration.

@garyhamman8934 Жыл бұрын

Good film, about a plane most do not know about. I love your vids!

@Ghostwulf.J.M. Жыл бұрын

You have not mentioned, that the J 29 also served in Austria.

@randomizer3024 Жыл бұрын

Can't wait to hear about this Aicraft, seems very cool. I like Aicraft.

@williamhigdon8728 Жыл бұрын

One of several that appear to be based on the FW Ta 183 designed by Kurt Tank

@georgeclontd4984 Жыл бұрын

Way too much like it..

@SledgeFox Жыл бұрын

Absolutely 👍

@Vermiliontea Жыл бұрын

Only the general configuration-concept - pitot air intake, tailplane on boom, swept wing - is the same. Everything else is different. And frankly, there aren't that many ways to configure an aircraft layout. Also, while it's irrelevant, Ta 183 was a design failure and wouldn't be able to fly. I think I've heard that the actual aircraft some Swedish designer might have seen, would have been the Messerschmitt P.1101?

@thomascavanagh2702 Жыл бұрын

RIGHT

@petertyson4022 Жыл бұрын

That was interesting. Seen pictures of this aircraft. But never knew it's history. 👍👾

@wolw66 Жыл бұрын

Great video and content as usual 👌

@Hughes500 Жыл бұрын

That was great - thanks!

@cellpat2686 Жыл бұрын

Great narrative style D.S. It keeps you very interested in listening to the whole history. Guess Swedish, quirky and innovative have been the rule for Saab for almost 80 years.

@ericwilliams538 Жыл бұрын

This looks exactly like what would have been the German 2nd generation jet fighter. If it had actually been made. From my understanding the German jet I'm talking about, is featured in some on line war video games. I'm not sure of the correct spelling of the German jet ( it's some big German name)... You can see the designs of the German jet in the U.S. Saber, and early Mig designs as well.

@ErikssonTord_2 Жыл бұрын

The two aircraft that broke the speed record were bog standard recce aircraft that did their receece run during the flight (previously held by specially upgraded Sabres).

@Mornomgir Жыл бұрын

Great stuff. Saw one fly over just a few days ago.

@skunkbucket9408 Жыл бұрын

5:41 How does making the wings thinner increase thrust? Sure, it would reduce drag, which would help make the most of the existing thrust, but it wouldn't create more.

@RandallSoong-pp7ih Жыл бұрын

Thank you!

@tommyvictorbuch6960 Жыл бұрын

I think it is a beautiful fighter.

@NothingIsKnown00 Жыл бұрын

When I grew up any Swedish kid with a passing interest in military matters knew well all the Saab fighter jets. You could be woken up in the middle of the night and immediately recite: Tunnan, Lansen, Draken, Viggen, Gripen. (The Barrel, Lance, Kite, Thunderbolt, Griffin.)

@ErikssonTord_2 Жыл бұрын

Draken that's a dragon, or a drake, that is, a male mallard! Viggen could refer to a lightning bolt, or a tufted duck.

@NothingIsKnown00 Жыл бұрын

@@ErikssonTord_2 Could be. I read somewhere that it was named “kite” because of the wing shape - the plane’s defining characteristic. And “dragon” just came as a bonus. 😄

@ErikssonTord_2 Жыл бұрын

Draken could also be a kite (not the bird!), as Eduardo has pointed out!

@macjonte 6 ай бұрын

At Bråvalla where these first were deployed I’ve watched Bruce dickensen of Iron Maiden. He flew his 474 over the festival area, landed and made a great show the next night.

@Glicksman1 Жыл бұрын

Just a small matter, NTGHA: When describing an airplane's dimensions, unless speaking of the "width" of the fuselage or other similar component, description of the distance from wingtip to wingtip is called "wing span" not "width", Also, when speaking of the interior area or capacity of any part of an airplane, the term is "volume", not "space". "Space" is what we call that which is beyond the Earth's atmosphere. Just to let you know.

@odonovan Жыл бұрын

1:36 - NOPE! The Me 262 was called the "Schwalbe" (Swallow). The "Stormbird" was the "JABO" (fighter-bomber) version, which came later.

@wolfganggugelweith8760 Жыл бұрын

In Austria 🇦🇹 Europa we hade those planes too! We called it die Fliegende Tonne. 😺👍🇦🇹🐺

@HorrorshowEU Жыл бұрын

Hehe yup that's exactly what the Swedish nickname for it is. "The flying barrel" for anyone wondering :)

@smarte.r.1450 Жыл бұрын

Very very interesting. Thank you

@georgeclontd4984 Жыл бұрын

That is the closet to Kurt Tank's TA 183. I wonder if the Swedes had an in to Tank's designs?

@drabantorgreyhound6613 Жыл бұрын

I applaud your research in making this video.

@hidden_matrixgaming Жыл бұрын

Except that their research is faulty as usual :/

@paythepiper6283 Жыл бұрын

Geez it looks like some of the late WWII German designs that were getting close to the prototype flight stage. Kurt Tank had something very close and Messerschmitt also had something similar.

@dishusse Жыл бұрын

Är det Sven Lindberg från filmen Gula divisionen vid 7:53?

@am4793 Жыл бұрын

Those jets look startled!😮

@rainerwagner8528 Жыл бұрын

The Saab 1001 had a prominent, but not all-known german Jet-Fighter as ancestor! The Messerschmitt Me-1101! All other aft-war planes like that appearance were based on that type! And the Saab and the first MIG-Jet-fighter are nearly 1:1 copies!

@albonyo Жыл бұрын

No its a focke wulf design by Kurt tank

@apskelett Жыл бұрын

Yeah. That's why the video talks about that fact ...

@johnburns4017 Жыл бұрын

The Messerschmitt Me-1101 never flew.

@dutchman7216 Жыл бұрын

That was interesting thank you.

@ChipmunkRapidsMadMan1869 Жыл бұрын

The ME-262 was tabbed Schalwabe or Swallow due to its speed and maneuverability.

@MickE98 Жыл бұрын

Whats interesting about a lot of the early jets.The J29,Mig15 and the F86 with swept wings.Most of the ground work was already laid by the Germans.Check out the Focke Wulf section on Luft 46.

@thomascavanagh2702 Жыл бұрын

RIGHT Me 262 for one

@robertoroberto9798 Жыл бұрын

@@thomascavanagh2702 Wasn’t built for aerodynamics but for changing the center of mass instead.

@graemehunter5403 Жыл бұрын

Excellent

@rizzochuenringe669 Жыл бұрын

The biggest disadvantage of the J29 was its engine. Instead of an axial compressor (as it was used in the German jet engines) the de Havilland Ghost engine used a radial compressor which is easier to manufacture. Not only is this type of compressor less efficient it is also more bulky in diameter. This produced more drag and gave the J29 the shape of, yes, a Tunnan. It also prevented the J29 to reach a speed anywhere near to the sound barrier.

@peterinns5136 Жыл бұрын

It also did not fail after a couple of hours of running time.

@rizzochuenringe669 Жыл бұрын

@@peterinns5136 Compared to axial compressors, you mean?

@juslitor Жыл бұрын

@@peterinns5136 I dont recall the service interval for american axial compressor jets in the early 50´s, but I am pretty sure the difference compared to centrifugal compressors was not significant

@peterinns5136 Жыл бұрын

@@juslitor I was referring specifically to the Me262's engine. Along with a long take off, the engine was the greatest weakness.

@juslitor Жыл бұрын

@@peterinns5136 The engine lifespan was a design choice. A reasonable one, at the time the 262 became operational,.lack of fuel and pilots were the primary reasons for non flying 262´s. I´d wager engine overhaul time wasnt an issue at that stage of the war.

@Works_Garage Жыл бұрын

I´d love for you to look in to when the Swedish Air Force Saab 37 Viggen Saved the Lockheed SR-71 Blackbird. The Baltic express. And also how the Viggen got radar lock on the Blackbird. “In total I have five hot intercepts against the SR-71 to my credit. All can be described as successful,” Per-Olof Eldh, Swedish Air Force JA-37 Viggen pilot.

@dakkuri1 Жыл бұрын

Whoa! You mean to tell me the plane actually caught up with the sr-71?

@exsappermadman25055 Жыл бұрын

If only he had a missile fast enough to hit it....

@Ni999 Жыл бұрын

@@dakkuri1 No. The Blackbird was flying a well known and narrow flight path and the Swedes were able to anticipate it. The Viggen got missile lock straight on, on approach, as the two closed distance. There's no big story about the flight paths, the breakthrough was the new radar in the Viggen. Others had previously tried the same maneuver and failed to get a lock .

@paullangford8179 Жыл бұрын

An SR-71 had an engine-out, and was very relieved to get an escort from Sweden, as they were being chased by Russian fighters.

@exsappermadman25055 Жыл бұрын

@@paullangford8179 Both engines?...

@zeroqp Жыл бұрын

It makes me chuckle when I hear this "tunnan" talked about in such a serious tone, since it means "the barrel" 😁

@Jamesfreezy Жыл бұрын

Love these ❤❤❤

@hueyiroquois3839 Жыл бұрын

The Stormbird variant of the Me-262 wasn't used in combat; only the Swallow version.

@horusfalcon Жыл бұрын

I know that "Stormbird" sounds better than "Swallow", but der Sturmvogel was the Me-262-2A strike bomber, while der Schwalbe was the primary production model of the fighter.

@BosleyStarr Жыл бұрын

Another cool video. It would be nice if statistics were presented in metric too.

@theobolt250 Жыл бұрын

Does remind you of the Focke Wulf TA 183,doesn't it? It was nicknamed Der Huckebein.

@utrock5067 Жыл бұрын

Kinda adorable looks. Resembles MiG17 too.

@emaheiwa8174 Жыл бұрын

P1101 and Bell X5

@greyjay9202 Жыл бұрын

With improved avionics, the Tunnan could be an effective fighter today. Most jet fighter operations are not conducted at supersonic speeds, and the agile Tunnan could operate in air to air combat, air to ground missions, as a weapons system against armor, artillery, and infantry, and even, with modifications, off a carrier deck. Newer is not necessarily better.

@bfelten1 Жыл бұрын

As usual, all the M-I-Cs in the world, A) prevents SAAB from exporting their superior fighter jets and then B) start copying the design in a pathetic attempt to keep up. 1) The Tunnan was the first mass-produced swept-wing fighter jet. 2) The Draken was the first supersonic delta-wing fighter jet, almost a canard design. 3) The Viggen was the first true supersonic canard configuration fighter jet. In the US there is still, more than half a century later, not a single Viggen Configuration -- but almost all other manufacturers have made the transition. 4) The Gripen is by far the most cost-efficient fighter jet available for any country that just wants to defend its country. If you intend to invade another country, Gripen is not for you. Kinda reminds me of Tesla for some strange reason.

@zanenobbs352 Жыл бұрын

Where to begin, Italy flew a motorjet in 1940, Britain's Gloster Meteor was serving in combat starting in 1943, and during the war, the UK also produced the DeHavilland Vampire. The US had several Lockheed P-80 Shooting Stars serving in combat conditions in Italy and the UK in 1945. The Saab J-21 first flew in 1943, so nothing in the German data influenced this, as the same airframe was used for the J-21R, thus the first post-war swept-wing jet fighters would be the Northrop F-86 Saber from the USA in October 1947 followed by the MiG-15 of the Soviet Union in December of the same year. The next nation to use sweep, in the same sense as Sweden, was Switzerland with their F+W Emmen N-20.1 Arbalete (Crossbow) on 17 April 1948.

@juslitor Жыл бұрын

Tunnan utilized Messerschmitt research data aquired from former german engineers that had defected to Switzerland in the last months of the war.

@Swede4Trump Жыл бұрын

Greetings from Sweden! That's the "Tunnan" ❤🎉

@RJW998 Жыл бұрын

De Havilland Ghost engine, you're welcome.

@michaelshore2300 Жыл бұрын

Me 262 swept wing not aerodynamic but to correct error in C of G as boeing did with DC3

@Lozzie74 Жыл бұрын

5:48 wing thickness has no impact on thrust!!!! Wing thickness only affects DRAG!

@Mike40M 6 ай бұрын

According to an aeronautical engineer friend, the low speed aerodynamics resulting in a number of lethal crashes was overcome when an afterburner was fitted.

@leafleap Жыл бұрын

8:03 That's a pretty good pronunciation of "Flygande Tunnan" - as a Swede; I approve.

@philalcoceli6328 Жыл бұрын

Call it ugly or whatever, it's very cute and its performance was not "piggish" but very good for the time. Some company must make an RC version... or a homebuilt half scale with a small jet...

@scottfw7169 Жыл бұрын

There are flying model 29s available which range from just the plans to stick and tissue rubber or electric power to larger heavier RC jet kits for 90mm diameter electric ducted fan units or 1/4 scale models for small jet engines. A few minutes of playing in your favorite search engine will find them.

@mattshaffer5935 Жыл бұрын

Impressive Bird!

@stevenward3856 Жыл бұрын

SAAB, although it had difficulty with automobiles, was very successful with aircraft design.

@juslitor Жыл бұрын

More like had problems playing with the same set of rules as used by GM

@hidden_matrixgaming Жыл бұрын

Still are very good at manufacturing and designing planes

@AnotherDuck Жыл бұрын

@@hidden_matrixgaming As well as trucks. Although all these have been split up a bit.

@panzerpoodle Жыл бұрын

Erinnert mich vom Design an die Ta 183 huckebein

@Gorilla_Jones Жыл бұрын

SAAB ❤

@klaspeppar5619 Жыл бұрын

Only the Saab 32 Lansen left now.

@kitfoxmk2 Жыл бұрын

The Meteor was the only Allied jet aircraft to see combat in WW2 so the statement is incorrect in this regard.

@robdegraw1568 Жыл бұрын

Did anybody else noticed that the 10 minute and 13 second that the plane on the left had caught fire I had seen the footage originally where that was an American plane and they were too loud and fragments from the bomb had hit the plane and the pilot had to reject

@moxie_ST Жыл бұрын

Yes I so that , this Chanel tend to copy pasta videos from nonrelated events to fill video time 😂

@wellshutchins6885 Жыл бұрын

Good eye. I missed the fire completely and I couldn't tell what the planes were except they had a swept wing

@Marco-lv8co 5 ай бұрын

Three of the tunnan in Kongo was blown to piece's, because one was shot at, so it wasn't worth repairing. And the other one called White Gustav was ruined after a landing misshap. And two J29 B were flewn back to Sweden. And two S29C went to Sweden. The rest of the J29B were blowned in Kongo. No plane were lost in mission.

@protonneutron9046 Жыл бұрын

the Brits had the best jet engine during WW 2. And for a while afterwards.

@tommytuomaala9087 Жыл бұрын

61? Remember seeing those in the sky in the 80s. Museum / flight training?

@nicolasroirand8011 Жыл бұрын

Bonjour , merci .

@minikodtlivov3184 Жыл бұрын

I would like if we could get metric measurements as well, in these videos .....

@kentnilsson465 Жыл бұрын

Fun fact, during the 50s, Sweden had the 4th largest airforce in the world

@brhbrh6326 Жыл бұрын

And Surströmming-a deadly alternative"

@AnotherDuck Жыл бұрын

@@brhbrh6326 Banned by Geneva Convention, though.

@michaelogden5958 Жыл бұрын

Possibly the coolest early jet.

@thomascavanagh2702 Жыл бұрын

try WW2 German Jet Aircraft

@robertoroberto9798 Жыл бұрын

@@thomascavanagh2702 He-162 looks like a cramped death trap and the Me-262 looked nice from the side until you look at it from the top and see how fat it is.