Honestly, I want a refill option for the tumble dryer

If I'm honest I really do think the TwinDos detergent does the best job, especially with whites. But I was curious to see how this would work out.. OK I'll talk in my next vid just for you ;)

i agree talking wiuld be nice. I find the video annoying because you didnt speak

Smart that he doesn't speak in some ways. Video is as useful to English speakers and to any other language.

My pleasure, I'm glad you found it helpful :)

Hello - is this one of the chrome editions one? Seems like a good model. These aren't wifi connected but my dishwasher is and I think it works well, you can monitor progress of the cycle through the app. I'd definitely go for TwinDos and any machine that has the powerwash feature. I'd also never consider anything that doesn't have a drum light! Hope that helps :)

Hi Bunky's ! What a Lucky guy your are ! I brought the WCR 860 WPS last november. It's the chrom edition indeed. I'm french, I paid 1450€. I have chosen this model because it was the "cheapest" to have the 59' powerwash program AND the drum light (which doesn't operate during a washing program).The fascinating detail is the spinning end process. The end of the spinning is almost instantaneous because of the profieco induction engine.The two things I still have not used are the steam finish for shirts and the Wi-Fi remote control.Another detail. For 365€ Miele secure your washing machine (parts, trips and labour) for 8 years. Plus the 2 years regular warranty, it's a 10 years warranty. You MUST register it within the first 30 days after the purchase. I paid for it because the WCR 860 WPS is full digital dashboard. In general it's the electronic parts which fail first. And the cheapest Miele repair service intervention does cost 350€, at least in France.A last thing, I did put an magnetic anti limescale (wpro).Greetings from France

That’s sad to hear. I have to admit I’m just going to stick with their stuff… I find it works best. Just wish it had a third compartment for conditioner.

I think you should be able to. The menu shows the different options for what will be in each container, and during the wash it lets you select what container (with what liquid) you want dispensed. So if you wanted 1 for colored and 2 for white, it should be able to. hopefully. maybe.

Personally, I have no regrets with the twindos system. Miele's detergent is superior and wash results never disappoint. I haven't been as impressed with any other detergent, and I've tried a lot. You are correct, if you use the Miele Ultraphase 1 + 2 then you have to add conditioner as normal. If you decide to switch, you tell the machine how much to add for normal soiling. It will then calculate for heavy or light soiling. Hope that helps and good luck with your purchase!

Thanks for the reply. Ive just ordered the TwinDos WWI660 now that I know its not just a gimmick. I got a Miele tumble drier last week and the build quality is just amazing.

@@carpii Nice, I hope you enjoy it! I also started out with a drier and was really impressed! Just ask if you have any more questions :)

I do not think that you do but if you are still unsure email Miele at Info@miele.co.uk

Hello - it depends on the load. A small load takes about 1:15 but a larger about 2.5hrs. There is a "Short" option so you can manually reduce the time. Or sometimes I just use Quick Power Wash which lasts an hour. I suggest downloading the manual for the machine you're interested in, the cycle times should be indicated. Hope that helps!

Hi- I was told by Miele that you won’t see your levels when using your own detergent. I think this is a real shame, but I just check manually every so often.

Very good question. It's a shame that the manual does not mention how to setup the ml properly if you are not using the Miele products. Does the machine assume you always enter the value for s standard load (4,5kg) and increases the dosage automatically of does it expect you to enter the value for the maximum possible load (9 kg). Not knowing what is correct will cause massive over- or underdosage. Miele, please clarify!

I was considering buying the refill cartridges from the UK/Australia and using them with my US Miele tower. But online research says they don't fit US versions of Miele washers which sounds really scummy.

Its superior to anything I've tried before. It made me realise how gray all my clothes and towels and linen were from the LG.. Though I have lots of limescale in my water too. But the TwinDos gets rid of most stains without necessarily using the stains option on the machine. I have only just finished the year's worth of free detergent from Miele though I think they've taken this down to 6mo now las time I checked. What model will you be getting?

sabistar44 yeah I was watching some of hype about it on KZfaq. Lot of nice scientific explanation which always impresses me. Not “it’s just the best because we say so” I’m looking to get the top model same as yours to go with the tumble drier. Maybe later in the year when funds allow!

Two things I don't like though is that there is no fragrance to it, or very subtle and I've noticed the Ultraphase 2 tends to put some holes in clothes, being oxygen bleach I guess. But it really is the best performing detergent. I've used some of the Caps too, for woolens especially which smell great. Not sure either that I'd go to the expense of using fabric conditioner in cap form though, too expensive! You've done opposite way to me, I got the machine first which just made my old drier seem so lacking in performance and energy hungry. I have a Miele fridge and after a lotto win or organ donation would like a hob and oven!! Let me know if you have any more queries on this model, happy to help :)

sabistar44 yeah I think that’s true of using a bleach based product whoever manufactures it. I get holes in more delicate fabrics. I agree the caps do seem a bit of a con. I’d probably use the down one for pillows. I got the TD first because my old one really was old. Very power hungry, so I could justify replacing that more. Washing machine is about 5 years old. Hard water here too... Think we could spend hours in a quiet pub talking about this ha ha.

Well I think there's something to be said for understanding and appreciating technology, especially the stuff that we live with. Ahah I think indeed we fill an afternoon in the pub with this, I'd like that :)

I guess you could select special detergent for chamber 2

Or maybe „not defined“

I guess not defined means empty

Hello! If you’re using Miele’s own ultraphase 1 and 2 in the twindos then just add conditioner into the compartment under the flap right at the front of the detergent drawer

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eliran gibli yes

I have no personal experience. There are some videos on here - after each drying cycle you have to perform a maintenance wash to remove the fluff - waste of water and electricity in my view. Also, the washer dryers use the old system of heated elements, they are not heat pump so will use more electricity. The biggest issue for the me is capacity - there is no 9kg version only 8kg wash which is 5 kg dry - I'd rather have a full 9kg capacity for both. Remember also that it will take several hours to complete - I prefer to be able to use the washer on many different programmes whilst the dryer is drying. I guess if space is the biggest issue, but for me I'm happy with the stack.

@@sabistar44 Ok, none of the review I've seen, mentioned you have to use water to clean, it for fluff, or use outdated tecnology, so thank you for mentioning this and for sharing your thoughts. Have a great 2021. :)

You will love it! Check out my video review: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/Zqh2n6xq0bq2YHk.html

The Miele washer with twindos system has a built in platinum sensor to measure temp. I think it use that temp information to mix the detergent 1&2. This sensor will corrode and fail, mine happened every 2 years. I never use other detergent except Miele twindos detergent. If that sensor goes. TWINDOS feature won’t work. You have to replace the expensive sensor or use normal detergent. Beside this issue, it’s a good washer.

Yes this is true.

It was to be liquid, it will not work with powders.

Yes there's nothing to stop you doing that - I've never tried though :)

Mine didn't, you have to order them separately from Miele.

Johannes Lorenz hello! I'm not sure I will try for you but usually when you tell the machine one twindos is there, it will automatically put the other. It might not let you combine phase 2 with another

Hoang Tran They come with Washer. ;)

Not in the US they don't. Just got a new W1 it doesnt have them.

@@Davegvg3576

I'm wondering the same. Did you figure out where to purchase the cartridge?

Here in Singapore it came with the washer. I was considering getting an extra set or if you lose it, and found them online in Miele Singapore. Just google for your local area's Miele website (I tried Amazon "Twindos" and there weren't any search results). Be warned, they're like S$50 EACH for the stupid empty ones. Meanwhile, one container of the Ultraphase 1 is like S$28. that's some expensive-ass empty plastic bottle.

You want to drink it?

Hi - that's fine. When you press the TwinDos button it will ask whether you want just the detergent, just the fabric softner or "Both Agents" which does both. So just select detergent, save that as a favourite cycle perhaps. Hope that helps!

@@sabistar44 That's great. Thanks for your help. I couldn't find anything anywhere that told you what the machine did after you re-programmed it.

@@tonylangley2092 glad to help- I should really do a video on what the machine does with your own detergent in it!

@@sabistar44 That would be useful and from what I can see, unique too.

You mean the water from the tap? Mine always does this - I like how the recirculation pump is spraying too!

Yes...my wmv do not this in tank cleaning...mhhhh wy?🤔

No powder in the TwinDos just liquid. You can still use powder in the drawer I guess. I use powder for delicartes now since the machine won't let me use the TwinDos for delicate cycles, until I change back to the Miele detergent...

thanks

@@dotTomT I didn't know this! Thank you for that, I'll stop! I have however switched back to TwinDos now and use that for everything except wool.

@@sabistar44 What do you put in number 1 and two? Getting the liquid version of powder is quite difficult but fabric softener is quite easyy

you're right

Groveland64 , I actually asked Miele this and they said it’s not recommended because sometimes if fabric softner isn’t put in to any of the containers then it will dispense both into the ,ain wash. I didn’t understand it at first, but if you do a load of colours and hit Dos, basically your clothes could be ruined. But really up to you

Hi - that's a shame. You know the actual Twindos bottles themselves are pretty strong - could you get someone to put a hole in them for you? Then you can fill with your own detergent? Just a thought, but be careful :)

You can use the same Twindos bottles when empty. Remove the cap with tiny holes from the top and reuse it, it does the job too.

@@tepidloi8019 excellent to know, thank you! I just tried the miele twin duos detergent and because I'm used to 'natural' detergents, I couldn't handle that strong fragrance... took 3 washes to get the fragrance out of my towels.. and then it made me wonder how well these clean??

@@tepidloi8019 would I have to get a detergent that isn't concentrated? I don't know how to gauge this and wouldn't want to use way too much detergent.. any thoughts?

@@bethaustin1884 in the instruction manual you should get an indication of which detergent is best for each wash. As for the amount of detergent you have to set this in the machine settings following the amounts given in the label of your detergent.

I didnt know about this, very interesting. I worry also about dishwasher rinse aid!

You'd have to add this into the detergent drawer. This is still flushed with water at the beginning of the cycle as normal.

It’s a comfortable and cheap system, if you refill it with your own detergent as shown in this video.

I disagree, I think it's a very good model. Perhaps not perfect but the touchscreen is responsive and the app works well.

Perhaps it's my very hard water, but I have found no other detergent as effective, this really works and works out cheaper too, the cartridges last a long time.

@@sabistar44 how long roughly do they last?

@@Asty1980 if using a standard dose, they last 37 loads each (for phase 1 according to miele) and 70 loads each (for phase 2 ). you can use less if your water is not hard. also the dosage was recently reduced form 48 to 46 ml for a 7-9 kg load. Miele uses less water than many others, so less detergent too....