The worst part for me is, beyond this video, most of the discourse online regarding the New Republic's horrific reintegration program is "Meh? The Empire, so whatever." That people would be so apathetic to psychological torture and mind-wiping simply because those receiving such treatment served an evil empire (regardless of the feelings towards the empire those undergoing the torture already had) is, quite frankly, disturbing.

The problem with Disney canon is the timetable. In the old lore it took 40 years just to get a decent chunk of the Galaxy into the new republic, several sizable imperial remnant empires existed and the criminal syndicates made their own pirate empire. Of course Disney would Make the New Republic use Imperial methods to expediently pacify the neutral worlds and cause the issue that would make the first order appear( for bullshit reasons). Hell in the original post endor the Fel Empire is what the First Order wanted to be but even the Fel Empire was different from Palpatine's Empire.

“Man is capable of greatness, love, nobility, compassion. Yet never forget that his capacity for evil is infinite. It is a sad truth, boy, that if you sit now and think of the worst tortures that could ever be inflicted on another human being, they will already have been practiced somewhere. If there is one sound that follows the march of humanity, it is the scream.” ― David Gemmell I wish he was wrong.

I’d say it’s less ‘no good guys’ more ‘no good governments’, probably something to do with power corrupting even the best intentions

I have a grandfather who was sent to Manzanar and another grandfather who was a scout for Patton. That grandfather was the third American through the gates of Treblimkia. As such we grew up knowing the difference between a prison camp and a extermination camp and to have a active hatred of FDR and a mistrust of the government. When that f***ing episode came up I went on a bit of a rant about this very subject. Thank you so much for covering this Chief

“I believe you find life such a problem because you think there are good people and bad people. You're wrong, of course. There are, always and only, the bad people, _but some of them are on opposite sides.”_ ― Terry Pratchett, Guards! Guards!

To quote the Who in "Won't get fooled again" - "Meet the new boss, same as the old boss".

"This is a mind-flayer!" "No it's not, it is perfectly safe." We just painted it a different color.

Ironically the Presidential Order that authorized the internment of Japanese Americans was 9066, seems to me that Star Wars also had an Order 66...

"It is for the greater good" &/or "It is for our own good". Countless Atrocities and Horrors have been justified through out history by these phrases, no matter if it was PR or truly beloved.

Many years ago, I read an extract from a contingency plan put forth by the US Government to liquidate all the occupants of the internment camps. Just in case the Imperial Japanese military achieved a foothold in the continental United States. Clearly, the difference between an internment/concentration camp and an extermination camp is merely a matter of intent.

You missed that they also left the mind flayer control room unlocked and unguarded, allowing an ex-imperial to walk in and turn up the dial! And no, there's no way she should have had the authority to do that! Let's not go into how the Heck she wasn't also in serious trouble and why no-one even gave a thought to why she was with him in the first place!

I fell like this sort of treatment would only drive the conflict to longer and greater heights. If the former Imperials know that this is the kind of treatment they are in store for if they surrender then why the hell not fight to the last. If you fight, they can only kill you, if you surrender they can unmake you. You always want to give the other side the option for honorable surrender, assurance of fair treatment and resettlement. The die hards will never go for it, but the bulk of the forces will disappear back into civilian life and can be a benefit to the state. Here the Republic is sowing the seeds of a new civil war and long term insurrection.

That IS why the Empire remnant was way better because It solved many of this problems better than the First Order. At least the remnant gave continuity for the Empire.

Imperial officers had names, enlisted had numbers. The New Republic has reduced them all an even simpler alphanumeric. Then they left all the settings functional on the mind flayer. Yeah, the New Republic has issues and is destined to collapse even if the sequels are ignored.

Legends: legitimately good but flawed New Republic Disney: what if we made it the Empire but without any of that military or Sithy nonsense?

I sometimes wonder if SW writers are trying to out-40k 40k.

You're really putting yourself out there, being the first Star Wars KZfaqr capable of media literacy.

I was already disturbed by everything in this episode, reducing people to numbers, regular tedious interviews assuming every subject might be a day from murdering a coworker, *the friggin' Mindflayer.* The fact that it was a *concentration camp* literally only clicked in my brain while watching this video. *And the guys running it allowed unrepetent Imperials to make it worse for the guys actually wanting a better life.*

The big problem of course is that the star wars galaxy tried unifying itself a few times. Each time, it ended with the Republic controlling most of it, and a sith empire and various indepednant systems successfully ruining it enough to break it apart/corrupt it again. The big long decline from Revan to the infinite empire to banes corruption to palpatine led to the Republic, the separatists (who for good reasons didn't want to be with the Republic anymore and wanted to be indepednant even from each other) and rhe outer rim/unknown regions (full of crime, monsters and weird darkside stuff). The star wars galaxy is a never ending cycle of absolute horror and misery for everyone who lives outside of the core worlds, and repeated invasion every thousand years or so for even them. There has never been a long term stable government ANYWHERE. The absolute best you can hope for is to live in a period where the jedi rule the Republic (because there's a huge mega sith war going on) or in the aftermath golden years where things haven't gotten corrupt again. In this way at least star trek might beat star wars in terms of average person living a life. You're probably going to have a nice, long and happy life in the federation (esepcially if you are on a well established world in which case you're bascially in paradise). In comparison, there is pretty much nowhere safe at any time in star wars history.

I react to spoilers the same way River Song does , a polite warning ‘ Spoilers’ and if that doesn’t work a big gun.

There will be a proper "good guy" faction. It will just be started and run entirely by Disney created and owned characters, rendering all that came before a waste of time. Because The Mouse is classy like that.

The part that's even more loathsome than the Administration rounding up Americans and jamming them into concentration camps just because of where their ancestors immigrated from is that the Supreme Court watched this happen and decided it was totally fine. Granted they were dealing with an Administration that had already threatened to effectively abolish the Judiciary as an effective check on executive power, but still - they had ONE JOB! Also, the Borg are clearly the Good Guys in Star Trek.

And this video is the reason why i am not liking the mandalorian now. They killed the idea of the New Republic, they are almost as bad as the Empire, They killed the idealism of the OT and changed it, mangled it. Thank you for your video Dock Master, I salute you.

A single letter followed by 2 numbers as a name is not going to cut it when you have trillions of people to re-integrate. L52 must refer to their Military Operation Specialty as there can only be 2800 of these available.

Always nice to see sacred cow shipyard video

"Kidnap kids. Program kids." Sounds like the Jedi. Also, trillions, more like quadrillions.

I think the good guys were those fish people who lived in the hollow earth or whatever was going on there

You called it with The Prisoner. Space Milgram, with the audience as participant.

A point regarding the mind flayer: he actually didn't seem to mind what was going on when it was on the low setting! He had the little smile and the little laugh. Why they kept the *ability* to ramp that sucker up... I'm going to chalk it up to poor decision making. "Oh, we're not going to use the high setting, so it doesn't matter if the option is there." "... but what if somebody did want to use that?" "Why would they?" "You know what, fair enough."

Star Wars is very much an era/story of "Great Men" and women (and small furry creatures from alpha centuri). Lord Acton once said "Power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutely, AND great men are seldom good men", people often quote the first line, and forget the second one!

you were talking about the camps for Japanese-Americans that FDR set up, right?

Dear dock master, I have a question: How does the unbidden invasion of our galaxy affect business for the sacred cow shipyards? With unbidden unwilling to conduct business with us, I highly doubt that the extra-dimensionals will be a favorable customer for the shipyard, considering they see the civilizations of the galaxy as prey.

I liked this story better in Star Trek: TOS episode "Dagger of the Mind".

many internment camps were in my state due to the large japanese population on the west coast. and there were 2 in an hour and a halfs drive by highway from me. We learned about it in high school. theres even an episode in star trek enterprise that covers those camps. if you remember, Archer and Malcom are interred at a suliban internment facility

Disney Star Wars continues to horrifically disappoint.

I find it fascinating, how the worship of authority creates patterns that always lead to the same mistakes, even when the worship is in the place of fiction. They cannot seem to even really imagine a sentient being as something that would even effectively choose to be that above anything significant. When these kinds of minds cannot grasp that a true value of quality might for an individual, out weigh a another's value of quantity. the "i must find my place in the herd" drive is not everyone's most pressing, and for some is not there at all. This doesn't make for evil. However, this will not be how some will even see this. I do not need a herd to be happy. If you do, that doesn't force me to belong, nor should it. There plenty others who will. please leave the rest of us in peace. That is the mistake of authority. You do not need it, and I respect that you want it. But like too much sweets, it is still not good for you.

spoiler for the pirate episode; the thing that infuriated me was that they have probation empire officers just walking around in command... no escort or supervision... and then the writers are so terrible they miss a very obvious moment that completely destroys the previous episode logic; the former comms officer of giddeon... she called out without being asked nevarro was not republic planet, in a room with two people that know what she was and are suposed to be on look out for them "relapsing into empire training". the older pilot guy, it would have been completely in his character to call her out on such an imperial absolutist mindset that gives no care for the people being attacked. that female character is more a mary sue then the black spock woman in discovery... had anyone in the writers room used even an iota of logic or asked someone from post ww2 stuff mentioned in video already... the very fact the scientist that got mindflayed said he was set up would have caused an imediate investigation into her. also that you can just eat contriband empire snacks in the middle of government building while being "under survailance"... and how new republic handled the scientist was fucking retarded... they put him on stage in front of all the big rich and powerful on coruscant for speach... and then just don't make use of his expertise? do they know what operation paperclip even is? probably not. but the amount of incompetence (to malicious negligence levels for some) with how they are having people act in that episode and next is worthy of the writers of episode getting slapped for stupidity... and they need to be forced to actually read a history book. also remember how 3 episode of mandalorian s3 were injected to salvage book of boba fett? the pirate was meant to be season finale. the episode that was mostly stupidity with new republic was most likely last minute creation to make up for that. and specifically calling out the mindflayer, they made it canon people wanted to be shot and killed instead of be put in one. and then also in same episode say all imperial tech is verboten. and to be destroyed. yet they are using it widely. and had power level able to go to max power? they are shitting on their own canon still. it makes me wonder if everyone that made season 1 and 2 of mandalorian good were fired by darth KK and even john favro can't fix everything these shitheads pump out of their diversity priority cubes.

Now tell us how you *REALLY* feel about FDR! You think that was bad though, go look up the first of modern-day concentration camps of the Boer War D:

Meet the new boss, same as the old boss.

I agree totally with this, but I'd like to add to the "they aren't genociding, technically" bit. I would say, really, their atrocity is even worse and they are allowing countless to die in something similar to a genocide by sheer inaction. The New Republic is a nightmarish mess that only deploys to worlds few and far between despite nominally, supposedly, being the protectors of the whole galaxy. Despite that the New Republic is so bad at its job, so totally inactive, that Pirates with genuine cruiser level vessels, and significant air wings with land territorial holdings crop up. That the whole Mid Rim is left basically unprotected, so much that as said, whole kings of piracy, imperial holdouts and such could and would crop up. All the while, the New Republic does nothing but decommission their Navy, and leaves only 1/10th of the army left servicable. The greatest atrocity the New Republic did for its whole lifespan, was do nothing, and sit on its ass hoping the magical "planetary defense force" could handle it when aside from Naboo, they never did

if my memory is correct concretion camps predate WW2 back to the Boer war where they housed the Boer population who were displaced by Scorched earth tactics used by the British Empire to defeat the Boer's who'd resorted to guerrilla warfare after there first attack had been repulsed. They were a factor in bringing the Boer's to the table due to how awful life in them was.

This is why I like the Expanded Universe of Star Wars. The New Republic wasn't really faced with these problems in that continuity.

I noticed that some aspects of the "re-integration" program are also quite similar to the same United States's Operation Paperclip, where scientists and officials from a certain other former fascist genocidal state were re-employed in the US despite their many crimes against humanity. Many of the people in the camps are ex-Imperials - researchers and officers alike - and instead of being held to justice or thrown in jail they're instead given jobs by the New Republic. It's an awful situation all around. (also, the "I can't keep track" line really shows the flaws of the New Republic; they got power and didn't change the status quo one bit. No push for progress or asking "what made the Empire and Old Republic awful piles of fuckshit?" - just a new name for an old system.)

There is no limit to the atrocities that can be justified by a greater good.

There's some realism to this, though. If you look at most revolutions that win, there is a tendency to inhuman behavior towards those who were once viewed as their oppressors. It's written off as being okay because these punishments are being applied to those who were once the oppressors.

All I am getting from this and from other channels is that I was right to drop Disney+. As all they seem to show nowadays is despair, stupidity, or self-righteousness.

"I am not a number! I am a fre" *bang You were saying?

The late Senator Amidala was correct one of her last statements. Liberty died, and with thunderous applause. No government in the galaxy since has been able to resurrect it.

The prime directive is like neutrality is for Austria.

I want to say who doesn't know about FDR's concentration camps, but I remember when my favorite author wrote an alternate history where people with magic started to appear in the 1870's but history is still sort of following the general path ours took so plenty of historical people/events still happen, though not necessarily at the same time or reason the originally did. In it it's the 1935 FDR is president and authorizes the construction of concentration camps to put people with magical powers since normal people are afraid/don't like them. There were leftist giving negative reviews/comments claiming that FDR would never do such a thing, and the author only made FDR out to be a bad person because he's a right winger (though he actually more a libertarian), despite the fact that he used the actual names of the Japanese internment camps.

Technically, the camps weren't FDR's idea - but he certainly wasted no time in approving it or putting his Presidential authority behind it when the proposal crossed his desk. FDR's enthusiastic backing of the project means the ultimate responsibility for the camps and their shockingly terrible conditions (thin-walled wooden bunkhouse shacks that would be considered inadequate as antebellum slave quarters, slapped together on the cheap in the deserts of the Southwest) lies squarely with him. FDR was a putz who should have been tarred and feathered. The only good thing he did was tell Stalin he'd have to wait a few years before the Allies opened a second front in mainland Europe.

I was wondering why that whole scheme felt dystopic.

Here's some irony: after the Yuuzhan Vong and the fall of Jacen Solo, care to guess who was elected to lead the New Republic? Admiral Natasi Daala, formerly of the Imperial Navy. Ok, we've had former Imperial officers in leadership positions before, right? Not like this, we haven't. You see Daala was the first woman to make Admiral in the Imperial Navy. How was this possible? She was the protegee of a rather famous individual in the Empire. A certain regional governor by the name of Tarkin. That's right. Mr. "Fear will keep the systems in line and if they don't we'll Death Star them" himself. Not only was he her mentor, the two of them were lovers. Now at a certain point, she got put in charge of a research facility known as the Maw Instillation. This is basically Imperial Area 51 hidden smack-dab in the middle of The Maw. For those of you who saw Solo, the Maw is that cluster of black holes that makes the Kessel System so infamously difficult to navigate unless you stick to very specific flight paths. What did they do at this Maw Installation? Superweapon research. In fact, the superlasers mounted on the Death Stars were developed there. Daala was the military commander in charge of defending the place and since she had a squadron of four Imperial-class Mark I Star Destroyers under her command, you can bet serious money that she pretty much ran the overall show. But wait! It gets better. You see, the Emperor and Tarkin decided that blowing apart a planet was small potatoes. They ordered further development to maintain rule by terror. Among such wonderful weapons developed here include the World Devastators which are basically what the Independence Day harvesters tried to do, but they didn't bother killing off the squishies before acting as giant vacuum cleaners using micro black holes to suck up the crust of the planet (and everything on it) before converting that matter into building materials for ships (if you played Rogue Squadron 3D on PC, one of the last missions involves you piloting a V-wing airpseeder to destroy these things). Then there's the Ionic Ring Ship. This is basically a ship that pulls a slow-roll Genesis Effect (for you Star Trek fans). Ostensibly this was to terraform dead planets for colonization. Obviously this is the Empire we're talking about here so guess how it was used? If you guessed "to subjugate worlds that didn't fall in line", you're right. Later on, this evolved into what would be called the Orbital Night Cloak which could bend light away from a planet to freeze it out. Useless against a planet that can field fighters to shoot down the machines doing it, but more than enough to subjugate less powerful worlds. All of this is pretty horrific, yes? There was yet ANOTHER weapon the Maw Installation created. The Sun Crusher. That's right: killing planets isn't enough: let's kill entire STAR SYSTEMS IN ONE SHOT! And this wasn't that big a ship. Only 13.5 meters on its longest aspect which makes it about the size of an X-wing (but oriented vertically and it looked like a crystal). It was armed with what were called Resonance Torpedoes that would be employed by firing them into a star to destabilize it to the point of Supernova. To ensure this little shit would survive being used, it was HEAVILY armored. How heavily armored? Well the mad scientists who built the thing not only gave it insane torpedoes but came up with Quantum-crystalline armor which enabled this little shit to not only no-sell a full Turbolaser blast at point blank, but it could survive crashing through the shields and bridge of an Imperial Class Mk I Star Destroyer with no damage and even dropping it into the planet Yavin didn't destroy it. The Sun Crusher was only destroyed by throwing it into a Black Hole. So with all of that out of the way... in the old EU, the New Republic wound up being run by the Tarkin's girlfriend who oversaw the development of these weapons (the scientists kept blissfully in the dark as they thought only of peaceful uses for their tech with the Death Star being likened to a mining station that zapped asteroids and rogue planets to free up navigation lanes and mine the raw materials). Daala deliberately not only tightly controlled the info the eggheads got from the outside, but she also sabotaged the navigation computers on all ships attempting to leave the system to ensure they got swallowed in the mass of black holes to keep the whole place and its works secret. When she found out, eventually, that Tarkin was killed, she flipped out and started murdering New Republic civilians left and right until she was captured. Don't ask me how she got into Mon Mothma's old job, but there you go.

I am not a number. I am a free man.

FDR wasn't the only one. Everyone's heard of Guantanamo Bay, right? How about Abu Ghraib?

7:32 and what's worse is that president is still beloved and highly revered despite the whole concentration camp thing.

Am I the only one sick and tired of the whole "there are no good guys, only morally grey characters who are pretty much no better than the supposed villains" trope found in modern media? I get it. Real life is all about shades of grey with morality, but here's the thing, I sometimes (often times, really) I don't want my fictional stories to be realistic! Sometimes I just want to see awesome characters wielding badass plasma swords kicking some bad guy ass. Is that so hard to ask for?

Some poor guy in some office somewhere is going "So we're scrapping all the benign and useful stuff, but keeping the thing that's literally called A MIND FLAYER?!.... Whatever, I'm not paid enough for this. Boss, I'm stepping outside to smoke a deathstick. Be back in a minute!"

At the end of the day maybe the Outlander's Eternal Aliance was not that bad.

Try World War I, and camps used for recently immigrated Germans. If I remember right, it was up to 3 generations that were in these camps, of people who came from Germany, or recently from Germany. The reason for this was to prevent potential sabotage, communication to Germany, etc.

15:05 That sounds like the Imperium of Man from Warhammer 40,000!

Yeah the old "Dupe on the Dime" was not the brightest bulb in the box. :/ He should have studied more CUBE.

The reason why the Republic turned into the Empire in the first place was because it was a failing system or should I say government that was slowly collapsing when Palpatine came along, they completely ignored slavery in the outer rim ares of their galaxy as if it was nothing to them which is one of their many flaws and yet the Empire seemed to be much worse by supporting slavery committed to non human races within their galaxy. So why would they try to go back to a failed system of government.

The 12th Doctor, from "The Zygon Inversion". "You just want cruelty to beget cruelty. You're not superior to people who were cruel to you. You're just a whole bunch of new cruel people. A whole bunch of new cruel people, being cruel to some other people, who'll end up being cruel to you. The only way anyone can live in peace is if they're prepared to forgive. Why don't you break the cycle?"

Funny enough, I learned about that fun camps in America from George Carlin. 😅 It reminds me of thrawn quote. Most people's perception of empire was far too dramatic. Empire was a government that kept billions of people fed, clothed and housed without ever having to see Tie fighter in the sky. And this is the work that any government would have to continue doing because that's what governments use to excuse taxes. the difference is only in scale of taxes and how wide is the number of people who benefit from them. But the entire episode felt like a weird out of place propaganda bit or making new politics meme as a form of advertising attempt. Like either the people responsible are too woke to notice or they intentionally made that episode so people could use it as meme format when arguing online and give Disney free advertising.

What about the Yuzang Vong from the EU. They only wished to being religious enlightment to the galaxy and put an end to any possible Droid rebellion plus as they arent force sensitive they arent tied to the jedi and sith religious nuts who's pissing match causes a major crisis every few years. They even put down Han solos pet so he didn't have to suffer in old age. Truly they are the real heroes

8:33 I did not know that, and I wish I was surprised

Government is rarely the good guys.

Wandered back here from the Cruise Missile Fighter video. One, points for the Base Delta Zero reference! Two, I intended to make an impassioned argument on several points....but they're all already there in the comments below. My fault for skipping this at first I guess. To try and elaborate, though; People misinterpreting the Dockmaster's sentiments (Vis a vis 'You said the Empire is good in comparison!) doesn't surprise me: it's a well-documented humie psychological failing in the face of this kind of thing. Uncomfortably common. But the sentiments *themselves* are strange to me, because, well: no *government* is 'good'. They could be, in an ideal world. But this is something humans as a culture keep struggling to grasp now: governments don't have friends, or morals. Even 'codes of conduct' are just easily-discarded words. Governments don't care about any of these things: they care about power. This is bad, by every possible standard, and literally all of human history is a near-unbroken story of it being Very Bad in practice. But it's still true. The counterpart to this is that *people* are *complex* . They can do incredible, heroic things. Save thousands, even millions of people, improve their lives far beyond what they would have been without their actions. They can also, sometimes in the same action, condemn thousands or millions of others. For a reason they think is good, or for no good reason. Or for no real reason at all. People being unable to parse *this* truth is how you get jokes about Luke killing all those "poor, innocent people" on the Death Star. So on the one hand, there are obvious arguments here: in comparison to the Empire's standard operating procedures for basically everything, the New Republic is a shining beacon of 'at least they're *trying* .' As ever, there's meant to be a lot of inference: sure, this program is being badly handled, but we see good individuals in the New Republic's government doing their best to help all over. "The villain is Bureaucracy" just IS one of The Mandalorian's ongoing subplots. But the video honestly put a different idea in my head. Because taken altogether, you could argue that the story of Star Wars, on a Nation-state scale, is a story of *competence* . The Old Republic had done what systems that old and entrenched do. It turned into a static, slothful, self-indulgent thing. A thousand years of peace, at least in terms of large-scale conflict. But ask Anakin Skywalker on Tatooine what that 'peace' meant. Ask the many other people implicitly trapped in that system what that peace meant. As much as the desperate efforts to humanize Dooku are asinine to me, they make this argument very, very well. The New Republic, at least as portrayed in The Mandalorian so far, comes across as nothing quite so much as *frantic* . There's a pervasive sense of being overstretched and underfunded. Of scrambling to get the resources, the people, the skills to take a galaxy emerging from the two-decade grip of a madman and turn it into a place anyone would actually *want* to be. So they're cutting corners, clearly. Performing galactic-scale triage. Letting the ethics they're supposed to have slip, because they have to have CONTROL before they can really pay attention to the pretty words so many people fought and died for, right? Which leaves the Empire. Or more accurately, it leaves Palpatine's will made manifest in ships and troops and violence. Because by the standards of literally everything written about the setting ever, Palpatine was basically the only Sith that mattered. His success was more complete than any other's, his control over the galaxy in his Empire near-absolute. The Battle of Yavin was such a big deal because the Rebel Alliance didn't *have* much else left outside of it: losing Yavin IV just meant losing any large-scale resistance to the Empire. And while the Dark Side of the Force straight up *turns off* things like empathy, mercy, and the like, and the Empire's entire approach to sentient lives reflects this more perfectly than anything else...well, it was very, very obviously *working* , wasn't it? If Bureaucracy is the villain? Palpatine and his empire alone are the only ones who vanquished it. If 'competence' is the one power in the galaxy that actually matters? Palpatine had more of it than anyone else. But then, it is much easier when you don't have to pretend to care about other people.

12:45 robot lady works for HR Iwould like to say this is a nightmare dystopian future BUTT im awake and tis not the future tis now

18:54 Unless you're a Krill.

The fact that the New Republic can't even get enough men to watch over these former Imperials or man things like prison transports kinda calls into question how democratic this society is. The New Republic has to rely on droids for psychiatrists or prison guards; it shows how there's less people who wish to work for the NR than for the Empire. Remember all those Stormtroopers, TIE Fighter pilots, bridge crews, tank/walker pilots, gunners, prison guards, and army/navy troopers in the Empire? Aside from the fact that they're all human, they're also all recruits. That's right; Palpatine did not draft a single soul into the Imperial military outside of the clones. Most of his forces are recruits from different worlds that get paid by the Empire with a regular salary. Meaning that while the New Republic is so short-staffed that they have to use literal robot-men to serve as watchdogs, prison guards, psychiatrists, and the like, the Empire has no shortage of people literally lining up to serve, putting their lives on the line for the Empire. So, doesn't that show that more people supported the Empire? I mean, look at how many of them there are. A whole galaxy-spanning army of recruited humans who serve in the armed forces. Meanwhile, not only is the NR so short-staffed that their patrol officers have to patrol entire sectors with little support, but they can't even help all the planets under their control, and they have to rely on droids for support. It shows a stunning lack of support from the populace for the supposedly-democratic New Republic. The Empire could've easily built a droid army, but outside of special forces or sentries like the Dark Troopers, they didn't. Instead, they trusted their own free citizenry to join up and put their asses on the line for the job. They even say as much in the Bad Batch show where the admirals who want to replace clone slave soldiers with live recruits state that they're banking on the loyalty of the people who choose to sign up for this Empire of theirs, and that's surprisingly enlightened given that the last war they fought was between clone slaves and droid slaves. Almost as if the Empire had a certain sense of honor in that they want everyone who fights and dies on their side to have actually chosen that path on their own.

*reads title* What? *plays video* Oh... it's about Disney Star Wars. Ugggh, and I had hopes that the Mandalorian would avoid the idiotic deconstruction garbage that's been getting shoehorned in since The Last Jedi. So much for holding out for getting the DVD boxed set when the series concludes. I suppose the most disturbing part for me is how little I'm surprised to hear this. It sounds like their typical writing, a mixture of sloppiness with their sociopathic morality. "As long as we're doing it to our enemies, it's justified. Only when it's done against us is it evil."

The fact I was talking about this topic with my friend thirty seconds before this video makes it so much better

Now the imperium. They are definitely the good guys! Right…right?

It seems as though the New Republic is no better then the Empire from what I’ve seen in the Mandolorian.

SCS: *Begins a rant about racist FDR* Me: *Slams the LIKE button*

Everyone talks about how superman fought the Nazis but no one talks about how he fought the stereotypical slant eyed Japanese. I wonder why

Thumbs up for "Prisoner " reference

Back when media franchises first became a thing I think people were really happy to see the characters and settings they loved continue. Now though, it's become apparent that the entire idea of these continuous franchises is artistically bankrupt. With Star Wars you either have the old EU, which ends up in this seemingly endless cycle of Sith-Jedi conflict (both before and after the OT) or you get this Disney nonsense of a grey ammoral universe where nobody stands for anything, except a handful of meaningless platitudes. All of this leads me to the conclusion that Star Wars would have been a better cultural product as the single original movie, no Empire Strikes Back, no Return of the Jedi, no Prequels, no Sequels, etc. The original film had a nice ending, the military coup and their terror weapon were destroyed (the only thing keeping the planets in line) and the heroes got their victory parade with even the originally shifty Han Solo having embraced the idea of heroism. However, if you pay attention, the series went ammoral back in Empire Strikes Back/Return of the Jedi with the series of bad retcons that led to the "From a certain point of view" quote. If there's ever an argument that stories need to be allowed to end, this current travesty just highlights that.

Prison guards in the US sometimes refer to inmates by their number....fun fact...i guess. At least its not tattooed. But its on all their cloths

8:20 Same thing happened in WW1.

I often said the Jedi are just as oppressive as the Sith. Just have different ways about doing it.

I hate papercuts... oh wait... paperclips... not sure those are a good idea either, but there are no good guys in government.

Meet the New Republic, same as the Old Republic....

When in the early 70s of the previous century in our timeline, the government of a usa wanted to build a new long infrastructure across its domain. They couldn't. There was a city in the way. I don't know mister contractor, we were told to live here 3 decennia ago...

This episode wasn't a metaphor for the US run internment camps, it was a metaphor for Operation Paperclip / Operation Gladio.

Eh. I'd say the worst bit (shown in that episode) isn't "there are eno good guys" but that the republic's being happily ignorant and/or incompetent. I mean, we don't put someone in front of an X-ray or radiation therapy device and just wander off (well, shouldn't.) We say "hey, this is potentially harmful" and leave someone trained to monitor/operate it. That scene? "Oh, can I stay here unsupervised and watch? He's my friend." "Oh, sure! I'll just go have lunch while you're here unmonitored with dangerous equipment! Have fun!" ... *really?* Out-of-universe, that's painfully contrived. In-unverse, that's painfully incompetent.

I would argue that the Empire is less evil… because they didn’t hide what they did, they didn’t hide that they where going to deal with rebel harshly… I prefer evil that admits it’s evil, over evil that claims to be good

meet the new boss, same as the old boss. and yea we like cames for people we don't like way too much. that isn't a good thing. and yes that 40's era president was a dirtball and went way outside the powers delegated to the office.

The civil war was a heel program

Eventhou the Empire is evil, at least they sure got cool uniform, compared to New Republic uniform - light blue uniform with white shoe and bucket helmet.

The more i hear about Disneys New Republic, the more i believe the massacre of Legends was the single worst thing that could have happened to Star Wars

If I where the new Republic I would study the Imperial technology and integrate it into my fleet of ships like a smart person would but no the new Republic on screen wants to throw it all away no wonder the First Order kicked their asses, a smart person would learn about their enemies and use their tech against them.

from the minds of the most goodest , benevolent, open minded, would totaly we promise never do this rpeople on the planet the "GOOD GUYS™ " !!!

In Austria, all the fashions form the second world wher permitted back into politics wher they still form a 30% block.

I AM NOT A NUMBER, I AM A FREE MAN!!!!!!!!

What I think would be interesting would be a "good guys" faction that some people are still suspicious of, only to discover the faction doesn't claim that they are the good guys, they're team profit. Everything they do is designed by spread sheet. What x group of people are pointing at going see see , they're evil! The factions going. Droids dont need to eat. Remove miners, replace with droids, shut off life support & save $. Miners; but what about our jobs? Faction; shrugs, can you make us more $? If no then not our problem. End up the good guys because the "bad guys" were affecting the bottom line. The fine line between stupid & evil is a blurry thing.

"Internment Camps". That is the whitewashed term. As is "Reeducation Camp.". Also, it was not just FDR, Korematsu v. United States inculpated the Supreme Court and the entire Federal Government as well. But, this, as you point out, is not unique. A good friend was sent to the countryside during the Cultural Revolution for reeducation to eliminate bourgeois thought. Another wore the tattoo involuntarily provided by a certain Teutonic nation. Regardless, I would posit the worst "internment canp" is the one in one's own mind, which is the purpose of breaking the ego to create a cycle of self-criticisms/self-loathing as control. Ken Kesey explored this in "One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest" as did Stanislaw Lem in "Memoirs Found in a Bafhtub." And numerous stories, like “Brazil”, explore the breaking of the mind to protect itself in such circumstances. Stalin was not quite correct: “One death is a tragedy, one million deaths is a policy.”