As always, the Jarvis-Jordan energy made my day better. Sorry your doctor gave you results and wasn’t available to explain them. That’s so stressful. 🤦‍♀️

i actually only watch Sad Boyz in the metaverse. feeling so seen rn

theres no way that jordan didn't know Philip is indeed not the king but also is DEAD

As a person who went through jaw surgery to fix a serious jaw issue, don't go through jaw surgery unless you absolutely have to. The recovery is hell.

As a mattress enthusiast (uh, former salesperson who still enjoys researching new products and such), I giggle-snorted at Jarvis' interior designer's disdain over not having a king-sized mattress. Sure, it's got sixteen inches of width over a queen-size, so maybe it'd help fill out a massive master bedroom-oh, and there'd be some extra frolicking space for Dipper up there-but there's no length advantage so it might very well waste space that could otherwise be used for other furniture pieces. Also, little detail on the Cali King vs King: the former's designed for taller people and, as a result, is four inches longer and four inches narrower than a standard King. Just throwin' it out there in case it's relevant to anyone in the mattress shopping process!

I love how much more Jordan we get when there are no guests. Nothing against episodes with guests. I just heart Jordan. The saddest boy.

the "its joever" vs "we are so barrack"

I appreciate the discussion of doctors not communicating well and being randomly unavailable. It took me 5 years to get diagnosed. I got really good at reading medical tests as a teenager. It's nice to hear someone discuss this kind of experience publicly but it sucks that these experiences are so common. Edit: As a Bostonian, there's not much funny news here, so we cling to it when we find it. The slide is on city hall plaza so mayor Wu didn't have to go out of her way to visit.

the doctor discussion reminds me of when my mom got breast surgery to remove her breast cancer and reconstruct her breast afterwards and the nurses wouldn't allow her to eat despite her being diabetic and allergic to most pain killers like morphine. they were sending the doctor messages asking if it was okay for her to eat and after about 5 hours of begging them to let her eat the doctor replied and was like "yea of course she can". they also kept trying to give her pain killers that had morphine as an ingredient and she kept getting really sick.

the doctor thing is so real, one time i was sent to a specialist eye doctor for optic nerve swelling and when i literally had a blind spot in one eye the office called me like “hey the doctor is going to be out of town for your appointment actually can you do next month” like…. yeah that’s fine i’ll just go blind thanks

As someone who knows an unhealthy amount of facts about bears, I can assure you that’s not a man in a suit, that’s just how sun bears are 😂 they always look like a dude’s soul got stuck in a bear body and it doesn’t know how to bear

What I heard about the Cop Slide incident is dude went down a slide meant for kids; kids are lighter and don't have a shitload of extra gear on like this guy did, so he ended up going way faster than anyone they expected to ride the slide would and just got ragdolled by physics

the thing about jarvis and jordan is that they look nothing alike physically but they’re spiritually the same person

At the end of June I was having bad enough constant panic attacks (and palpitations and chest pain) that I almost went to the emergency room for the first time for an anxiety-related problem. I called my psychiatrist and he was on vacation until August. I asked what exactly I was supposed to do considering I was really scared... and I also needed refills on crucial medication. The secretary was like, "well we are sending him messages"... So then I asked if I could see someone else, and they said they would send the other doctor a message and call me back. I never got a call. I was lucky enough to have pulled myself out of it, but it was honestly an emergency. Everyone deserves a vacation, especially doctors, but when you are dealing with life and death situations, have a damn back up plan.

I used to work in medical records for a rehab clinic for kids with special needs, and holy hell trying to get updated scripts from doctors was such a nightmare it literally became my full time job at a certain point. I'd sit on hold for upwards of an hour (sometimes longer) just for the person I was talking to to just come back and say, "Oh, Dr. so-and-so is out on vacation. So, they can't sign anything." And when I'd ask when they'd be back some times they'd have no idea, because they work in medical records and don't have access to that information, so I'd just have to keep checking back in every week until the doctor came back. And then when they would personally get on the phone and start lecturing me about "I can't sign anything because that kid needs to come in for their x month check up. You need to tell the parents--" and I'd just have to be like, "sir, I am not the therapist. I just collect the paperwork. I have zero contact with the families. But, I will pass that information along. Thank you." And there were times we wouldn't get anything back for months until the other office's medical records would finally get so fed up with me calling that they'd just go to the doctor's desk and look for our request themselves just to find it sitting at the very bottom of a stack of papers untouched. I could sometimes hear the frustration in their voice when they came back on the phone and were like, "I am going to personally go get this signed for you. You'll have it back within the hour." So, yeah, that job is the sole reason I get nervous anytime I have to go between multiple doctors/services because who knows how reliable the communication between them actually is.

Waiting for this podcast every week made me realize how people waiting for new episodes of tv shows must have felt and there's something special about it.

Whenever i hear them introduce themselves, i always expect Jordan to say "and I'm Johnson" after Jarvis.

As a faithful user of the whole scrub daddy family, I appreciate the acknowledgment of these superior sponges

The funniest part of the cop slide thing to me is that people in the area have been trying to slide down at the same speed and they cant, nobody knows how he managed to go that fast.

The doctor part is so wild to me. Cause here in Germany if doctors go on a leave the normally leave a message on their mailbox or website for which doctor you should contact that is basically working as a substitute during that time for them

26:42 feel this my mom had a brain tumor that would’ve killed her if she hadn’t been persistent about something being wrong. Her gp said she was just “getting old” at age 40. Thankfully she switched doctors and now has no brain tumor.

Just started this ep, but just want to say Jarvis’ metverse video was so good. Had me cracking up, but it was also so wholesome. So good.

I did an "at home" sleep study and I literally kept waking up every 20 minutes because of the thing in my nose. I have ADHD and hypersensitivity, and having things covering my nose is a huge trigger... so like... obviously the sleep study came back and said I had sleep apnea... but I don't think I actually do, because I literally never wake up during the night normally. I also just went to an ENT and he said my nose is literally perfect, so there's no reason that I should have trouble breathing through it, except that I simply cannot breathe well through my nose. Sooo, all of that was a super helpful use of $300.

I appreciate Jarvis talking about the sleep study stuff, I will most likely get one of those one day and it’s nice to have it explained in such a funny way. “The eep study” LMAO

About the "all lightskins look the same"- I'm also mixed. When I was 16 I worked with another mixed girl. Everybody got us mixed up, even tho we looked nothing alike. They also insisted we were sisters. Every time theres someone else whos mixed, ppl think we look the same/are related. It fr happens

Jordan are you going to address the baby girl allegations?

Jarvis is so real for that cheezit vs goldfish comparison... I have stomach issues and cheez its always make me feel sick. Goldfish? Totally fine. Team goldfish over here

I got diagnosed with sleep apnea and they took a long time to get me set up with a CPAP. I remember feeling like shit and feeling like I was taking years off my life every time I slept. They tell you how terrible sleep apnea is and how important it will be to use your CPAP, and then they make you wait for it…

bless you guys and the person who does captions for you. i always have captions on due to some auditory processing issues and the auto generated ones are AWFUL and distracting, so it's nice when they're actually done by a human

Oh boy do I have a lot to say about everything you guys were discussing of healthcare. Back in March 2019, I woke up at 5am to my mom crying and dressing me. I looked over in the hallway and there were cops standing there. Then EMT came and put me on a stretcher. On the way there, one of the EMTs told me they believe I had a seizure. I’d never had one IN MY LIFE. I got my vitals taken at the hospital and that’s it. They didn’t do any kind of testing, just regular vitals. Spent a few hours there, I was awake the whole time, then I got sent home within like 4 hours. My brother kept an eye on me, I started taking a nap and immediately had another seizure (obviously, bc the hospital didn’t bother to figure out what was actually wrong with me). I the ambulance was called ONCE AGAIN and this time I didn’t wake up until I was actually in the back of the ambulance. The seizures were so close together that I literally had the same EMT sitting in the back with me and he let me know I had another seizure. This time I was finally admitted into the hospital. I ended up spending 4 days there, hooked up to an EEG for 3 of them, had a couple other tests done and eventually they were just like “we can’t find anything but we’re gonna put you on seizure meds”. I was on the meds for 3 years and luckily they worked, I haven’t had another seizure since (knock on wood, I’m a year and a half off of those meds). Second story. At the end of 2021 (still on my meds at this point but that’s somewhat unrelated), my period was 3 weeks late. I’ve never been on BC and my period had always been habitually on time at this point. I went to the gyno, got some bloodwork done and they said if they find anything, they’d call me, but if they don’t call me, no news is good news. That same day I ended up getting my period and I never got a call back from the gyno so I was like alright I guess it was stress or something. Fast forward a YEAR LATER to my yearly gyno appt, I mention to them that my periods have still been somewhat not regular and I had a few that were once again 3 weeks late. My gyno says, “oh, did we not tell you? You have high levels of prolactin” and I was like no literally nobody called. So they gave me another blood test and my prolactin was even higher. They tell me at this appointment basically that high prolactin levels could mean I have a BRAIN TUMOR (non cancerous) in the pituitary gland and to come in the following week for another blood test. And then another a little while later. All of these blood tests resulted in the same thing, my prolactin levels getting higher. At that point they referred me to get an MRI, which concluded that I do in fact have a brain tumor. Now I regularly see an endocrinologist and am on medication to help the brain tumor go away. I’ll be on these meds for 2 years and hopefully that will be the end of my treatment for this tumor. Most people ask me if it’s possible these 2 things can be related and I personally don’t know, I’ve only found some research on pituitary gland tumors being connected to seizures because I don’t think there’s tons of research on it. I plan on asking my endocrinologist, and wondering if I should go back to my neurologist to get a closer look, but honestly I fear being overlooked once again. It’s insane the hoops you have to jump through even when you literally are having BRAIN PROBLEMS. Our healthcare is fucked

One time, my MRI techs made a clerical error and gave me a medical report saying I had multiple sclerosis. So when I got a report that said I had MS, I immediately had to talk to the neurologist. I asked why I was never informed I had MS, and it was revealed that I don't have MS. She wrote a note to the techs that I did NOT have MS, and the techs did not see the "not." To this day my reports still say I have MS.

I recently stopped smoking weed so I've been getting crazy dreams; the other night I was watching your podcast right before bed, and I dreamed that we all went to an asian buffet and when Jarvis leaned over to tell me something I felt uncomfortable and moved closer to Jordan to protect me 😂 And then I woke up.

As a Canadian who’s been battling the health industry for a few years now, it’s so tiring. Our public health is severely underfunded bc our provincial government is trying to privatize health, so trying to get appointments and doctors to take you seriously is like pulling teeth. I got a CT scan for my sinuses like a year ago and forgot to follow up and my GP just never called me about it lmao. It’s not fun dealing with chronic health and disabilities in healthcare systems throttled by capitalism, especially in the states oof.

it’s my boys, jarvis and johnson

"built like a Chinese sun bear" is a phrase that I'm fully using to describe myself from now on. 🐻🌞

I love all the guests so much but there's just something that's so comfy about the show when it's just the two boyz ❤

Shout out to Monster munch for helping to convert people into both furrys and get a foot fetish

An Among Us reference AND a Scrub Daddy plug?!? This episode has everything! 🎉 Fun fact about the Scrub Daddy: it's temperature reactive, so if you want it soft, use hot water, but if you need it firm for scrubbing pans or whatever, use colder water to make it firm.

As a light skinted dual citizen gyal, watching you two on your own just feels like home 🧸

I listened to this on Spotify and had to come over to add my two cents. First, I very recently got a CPAP and it has changed my life! Granted my sleep apnea is severe. But, I'm a total evangelist for them. I sleep more, I sleep better, way fewer nightmares, get up way less. I think of it like my glasses. Do I wish I didn't have to use it? Sure. But it makes my life so much better, it's worth it. On another note, I would really appreciate a quick warning when you all are going to talk about diet stuff. No shade and I'm sure a lot of people wamt to hear about it. But, I would prefer to be able to switch it off. It's hard not to get started thinking about restricting my own diet when I hear other people do it.

It's crazy to hear Jarvis talk about his experience with sleep studies and sleep apnea since I just had a similar experience roughly a month ago. I got a cpap machine I sleep with nightly and have no idea if it was worth paying for. Loving the podcast! 👍

RE: sleep study. I did one after having lethargy and having insomnia for around 6 years. They said I had some events but it didn't qualify as apnea. The mouth piece was around $500 and not covered. I would suggest getting one you warm up and set yourself first for around $30 and seeing if that helps at all. I have been sick and lethargic since I was like 10, and after countless physical tests, it always comes back to anxiety. So if all else fails to show a problem, thats an avenue to explore. (I've been working hard on mental health for years but there always seems to be something else that needs doing.)

I was really invested in the conversation about doctors and the struggle to find solutions to really stressful problems. It sucks so much when you know that something's wrong but don't know to what extent. Doctors have unimaginably hard jobs and like you said, it's not them, it's more a systematic issue I think, but it still sucks so much. I was diagnosed with both a chiari malformation where my skull is pressing into my brain and causing progressive fluid build-up in my skull and a pituitary tumor creating excess hormones to an alarming extent at the same time last year and since then haven't gotten much more than bouncing back and forth with endocrinologist and neurologist saying 'talk to the other doctor about that issue' or waiting months between available appointments. When you can feel things getting worse but you're not an expert and don't know if the symptoms are something to worry about and then no one's available to answer your questions, it's really scary, especially when finding solutions and treatment takes so much time even if appointments could be scheduled regularly. I often have to wait 3-6 months between appointments and I know that's not the doctors' faults but hearing stories of people who pushed things off until they became irreparably bad is scary. I don't know much about sleep apnea but the same concept absolutely still applies. It's scary when things are wrong and I agree with you that it almost would be better to not know details so that you're not worrying without anything to help it. I wish there was a better system in place, but I don't know how these things work. I hope things work out Jarvis! You deserve relief from both the symptoms you've been having and from the worry and stress of having to tug and nudge to find answers.

I am a Sponge Mommy-vangelist. This is the greatest sponge I've ever used - by a lot. It looks like it should suck(as a person with a lifelong preference of natural sponges) - but it fucking doesn't. It's so fucking good. The fluid retention, and the rigidity of it. omg. I swear they don't sponsor me, it's just that fucking good.

The "I Think You Should Leave" references are killing me. I reference it all the time and no one understands. People just get mad when they ask a simple question and I respond with 'what the HELL are you talking about?'

My mom just had an at home sleep study done. She has extremely bad insomnia and doesn’t sleep most nights so it was a huge deal. That same night racoons broke into the house and she was trying to get them out while all hooked up to the machines. When the nurse came back she was mad at my mom, they had no useful data and i think she thought my mom was lying about the racoons

ken is kenyan, and thats canon

Jarvis's take on goldfish is EXACTLY how i feel too lmao. Thought i was the only one. @8:00

Loving Sad Boyz! This is 100% the vibe I needed to keep me company. So glad they filled the demand for flexible seating in a podcast. What an unfortunate validating feeling to listen to other people having horrible medical times. I know it all too well and it causes such a visceral anger but also relief from not feeling alone in it. Thanks for the content ❤

Having immediate access to test results unlocks an entire new category of anxiety

that's crazy i was driving home from a medical appointment in another city today and we literally drove past a sign for special ops lioness and even the poster looked so fake like i cannot believe that

The best podcast on youtube 🙏 i feel so funnied up and inspired from these lovely chats i get to listen in on, sb 4ever

This has some extreme relaxed sitting from Jarvis

"is it vidcon for doctors?!" sent me lol but actually are they just always going to conferences and studying or are they on the yacht their patients paid for lol

Omg I feel so seen hearing Jarvis talk about his experience with the sleep study and sleep apnea. I got diagnosed with sleep apnea when I was 27, which made me a bit of an outlier in the waiting room at these sleep related clinics. I have had a CPAP machine and mask for 3 years and it has been lifechanging. I used to get 8+ hours of sleep, wake up, and then need a nap soon after. I now get full sleep and while I still nap sometimes, I don't need to every day like I used to. I now have a steady, stable sleep schedule and don't even need my alarm to wake me up now. Whatever happens, I hope you find what works for you! It's definitely worth exploring your options. Anyway, thanks for another excellent episode Boyzzz

jarvis in the metaverse reminds me of this one time when my friends and i got banned from a steven universe roleplay server on roblox because we kept inventing the ipad so we could play doodle jump. some kids started arguing with us saying ipads dont exist in that universe, but we were like "yes they are we invented them" and then someone called a mod and they banned us LMAO

Finally, a new episode of The Somber Young Males Showcast

i love jarvis johnson from the metaverse

I enjoyed listening to you talk about the sleep study because my doctor is wanting me to do one to see if I have sleep apnea. So it was nice hearing what it entails. Thank you for that

Ngl Jarvis looked cute as hell when he started getting cozy in the later half of the podcast

really like this podcast!!! y’all are awesome. also, THANK YOU for having such amazing closed captioning!!

Can we get Obama on the podcast 🔥

My ex did a sleeping test thingy and the results were normal, while I just wanted to storm the doctor's office and play the *several* videos I had taken of him just stop breathing in the middle of the night.. It was keeping me up with crippling anxiety, we're not together anymore, but it's still infuriates me..

i think this is one of my favorite episodes ever. Idk the vibes and jokes are so funny and yall seem like you are having the best time.

I got diagnosed with sleep apnea a little while ago- I really recommended the machine tbh, it takes a little getting used to but once you've got the right mask and you're used to it, it helps a lot, and they're sturdy machines.

it’s so nice hearing jarvis talk about having sleep apnea… i’ve been using a cpap machine since i was 16 and i’ve never met another person under the age of 45 that needs one lol. college dorms were interesting to say the least

Jordan it's king Charles, Philip has been dead for like a while

When I got diagnosed with IBS it was an off hand comment when I went to the doctor to check if my appendix was bursting because I couldn't sleep from the pain. She squeezed my appendix and spleen, told me they were just majorly inflamed and that I had IBS and said nothing else about it. I'm not even sure the diagnoses is officially on record nor do I know how to ajust life accordingly to deal with it. (Also now every time I have major appendix pain I'll never know if it's appendicitis or IBS and I kind of just have to assume it's IBS because I can't just go to the doctor every time I have IBS symptoms.)

Big fan of the Scrub Daddy discussion. Something about Jarvis showing off the sponges was very fun

56:50 I've gone down that slide and it's BRUTAL

Jarvis! The metaverse video was so good, i really really enjoyed it!! and was happy to see you return to the main channel

As someone who's also newly diagnosed with mild sleep apnea and trying to make lifestyle changes to treat it, it was comforting to know that Jarvis is going through the same thing :') Good luck on your health journey man!

Jarvis-I am also a young person who was diagnosed with mild OSA a little over a year ago. I used to be so tired I was falling asleep while driving, at work, had no energy, etc. I got a CPAP machine, a Resmed Airsense, and it has CHANGED MY LIFE. I have other comorbitities that cause extra fatigue, but, at least my actual sleep is not causing my sleepiness anymore. Dental insert will not provide the same results imo. And the machine is whisper quiet (just don’t get the nostrils only face mask; I recommend the one that goes over the nose fully). Mild OSA is affecting you in ways you could not think imaginable. It took about 3 months of nightly use to start seeing the effects, and it has never gone back. I can remember things again, I can drive again, I can work again. My amount of naps has been reduced by like 90%. -A fellow fatigue-ridden person

I watched They Cloned Tyrone on a whim and I loved the whole thing, that scene with the techs discussing the Blandest chicken had me howling

Hey Jarvis! I think you should consider looking into Long COVID. That’s what I have and I am experiencing the same symptoms you have shared

I have had 7 sleep studies and they NEVER kicked me out after five hours! That's insane!

I missed their bi sitting energy ❤

I'm a modest man. I'm a queen.- Jarvis Johnson

Recall trying to make an Appointment for a surgery procedure that was to make sure I didn't have cancer and they- basically stretched it out near 4 months and was in USA at the time. Just was insane. . .like HELP ME FOR FUCKS SAKE- I want to live. Was so stressful. . just hope the system gets reworked.

Good luck with your sleep apnea stuff! If you go the CPAP route, just know that sometimes insurance requires you to be using the machine a certain amount of hours of use for however many months (which can be annoying if you have trouble sleeping). My mom had to get one and it helps her apnea but is annoying to worry about.

Hey Jarvis! I’m sorry you’re having to go through all this trouble just to get a restful sleep. My partner has the same mild sleep apnea and after trying literally EVERYTHING except jaw surgery, we got recommended laser treatment by our doctor. It’s pretty much the same laser that dermatologists use to tighten face skin to reduce wrinkles, but they tighten the back of your throat. He’s had 1 treatment out of 6 and it’s made a HUGE difference. 😭🙏 It’s usually about $2,700 CND but they gave us a discount because we signed up and waited a few weeks. Haha I would 1000% recommend it and there are probably “sleep laser therapy” options near you in LA. Best of luck!!

Re: sleep apnea, I’m not a doctor or anything, but I have a friend whose doctor said he had bad sleep apnea and really needed a machine. He didn’t wear his machine at night because he thought it was annoying, and he wound up having some brain damage and started having seizures. So if they tell you when they’re back from vacation you need a machine when you’re sleeping, I recommend just doing it even though it’s annoying. Update us when you find out. Hope you’re ok! Thanks for the videos.

Sleep study I did was much the same (though thankfully covered by public health in Aus) but they wanted me there at like 7pm to try to sleep at like 8pm and I was like. That's not happening. Then they had the gall to say I didn't have anything except insomnia and I was like, while I don't disagree, it took me forever to get to sleep because I was in strange location, strapped up to a bunch of things, and my bedtime is usually like 11pm! Of course it would look like I have insomnia!

Omg! I also have sleep apnea I got diagnosed last year I'm 10 years younger than you guys too. I have the jaw device and the CPAP, my reccomendation is to have both. You'll find one works better most of the time but sometimes you'll have reasons to use the other. I just got a deviated septum corrected too because my nose felt congested all the time as well. But one year after getting diagnosed my memory and days are far better

One reason I love Kaiser HMO - computerized files, I never actually see my assigned physician, but they ALWAYS have somebody to see. Also, all tests, meds, etc. are in the same area - no driving.

I'm glad you addressed it. I was listening to one of the Danny podcasts earlier and you guys mentioned people think you look similar. I couldn't see it, and I was very confused.

Jarvis if you haven’t had your tonsils removed you may want to look into that. I had sleep apnea for years then I got my tonsils out and it fixed it completely.

About CPap, my dad refused forever to use one until he experienced what sleep was like with it and now he loves it.

I'm gonna have to see this patreon feed

I got a febreeze ad as Jordan was doing the guessing game so it was just like “No time all crime, the closer, baywatch nights, FEBREEZE”

1:14:47 LMAO jordan, i feel this so hard. i try to limit my [redacted date] jokes as often as possible around people who aren't as terminally online as i am

17:50 apparently my aunt/uncle liked how small my mom/Dad's queen bed was, it fits in rooms better because its not as long. Also my dad used a mask for his sleep apnea. I also have it but sleeping on my side helps, sometimes if i fall asleep on my back i wake myself up with snoring, i don't want to have to have something i have to keep clean. Having your head elevated might help too.

In college (Chicago, 2012) I was also recommended a sleep study. I showed up at a random medical building one night downtown and had an unfortunately good looking tech hook me up to wires. He said something like "I'll be watching you from right in the other room" before he left and I just DIDN'T FALL ASLEEP all night out of anxiousness. They didn't get any usable info from me that first night so they monitored me for the following day (different tech) and night (hot tech but they gave me ambien). Eventually they called me to tell me that I didn't have sleep apnea and I'd wasted two days of my life.

omg i’ve only had like the polish ones but monster munch are so good !!

I liked the film segment, nice ep!

on 59:55, in spanish, (or at least mexican, where im from) questions are very differently formatted, since there aren't really any words that are used solely for questions; words like "what" or "where" can also be used in a statement. so when asking something in spanish, it is important to emphasize the tone of the question so the listener understands. this is the same reason there is a question mark at the beginning of a sentence in writing, because it sets the tone while reading. so if someone was answering jeopardy in spanish, it is the tone that makes it a question, rather than the beginning of the sentence.

mad respect to Jordan for being British and not knowing who the king is 🫡

another solid podcast, thanks guys!

glad to see you drinking lime lacroix. cracking open one of mine to immerse myself in the podcast

Oh I LOVE games like what Jordan did at the end! Sometimes I’ll ask my partner to play random music that he thinks I might know just to see how fast I can guess the band and song title. Guessing games are my love language lol