The Shocking Truth About Electric Propulsion | Step 371

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00:00. What's happening?
00:51. Elco
03:30. Therapy
05:19. FinX
08:13. Yamaha
09:32. Remigo
14:34. Torqueedo
18:19. Temo
20:59. Epropulsion
26:26. Omega Grey
29:04. Kräutler
32:06. Combi
36:50 Bellmarine
42:28. EPTechnologies
47:04. Ocean Volt
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@eduardosturla
@eduardosturla 8 ай бұрын
You guys have made a documentary which is miles beyond what any trade magazine could've done with a team of writers and producers! You are WAY more knowledgable than most of the salesmen and typical trade show pitches. Congratulations!
@warrendemars
@warrendemars 7 ай бұрын
Totally agree!
@johnalberto7855
@johnalberto7855 7 ай бұрын
You guys know the old saying, "when you know the walk you can talk the talk". You guys have done it and experienced the pros and cons. Excellent work!@@warrendemars
@SailingTipsCa
@SailingTipsCa 7 ай бұрын
Yes and I love how pretty much every sales person said “We are the market leader” LOL!!!
@SailHub
@SailHub 7 ай бұрын
Absolutely, smashed it guys!!
@richardwallinger1683
@richardwallinger1683 8 ай бұрын
Dan is nailing it bigtime .. a customer with more experience than the unsuspecting salesperson .
@yachticus
@yachticus 8 ай бұрын
thats exactly what I was seeing - welcome to the labyrinth
@realulli
@realulli 8 ай бұрын
Dan and Kika have more experience than just about ANY salesperson out there...
@francesconicoletti2547
@francesconicoletti2547 8 ай бұрын
“ you don’t cross the Atlantic every day “. Someone doesn’t watch their channel. No sometimes they coast off the coast of Norway instead.
@princeangel3580
@princeangel3580 8 ай бұрын
Well these sellers are selling to maximum of people, that are definitely not having the use of Dan and Kika, thats not a surprised
@garolopez887
@garolopez887 8 ай бұрын
Agreed surprising these people with his knowledge.
@CAMacKenzie
@CAMacKenzie 8 ай бұрын
Elco is also one of the companies which made PT boats, landing craft, crash boats and probably other small craft during World War II.
@billboothe7725
@billboothe7725 3 күн бұрын
You guys are fantastic. That was one of the best trade shows I never went to but learn so much you. You know the questions to ask. You know what's important and it makes all the difference in the world. When when you when you know what you're looking for or know what you're trying to find, you control the situation instead of the salesperson and it's nice to see somebody that knows the right questions to ask and gets s gets the ant the best answers possible because of proper questions. So great job! I mean I. I was fantastic by this be exposed to some of this new technology and that you'll never hear about anywhere else. It's not advertised on the internet very much. It's the most important thing we can do for our marine life is to stop putting fuel in there water..
@ExposingReflections
@ExposingReflections 8 ай бұрын
Amazing job Kika and Dan. That's a lot of work, interviewing that many companies as professionally as you did. Thank you for all the great information.
@Shane_Hendrix
@Shane_Hendrix 8 ай бұрын
Hopefully you guys got some good sponsorship offers. I can think of no better stewards of the marine electric industry than you. The amount of interest this channel has generated in the field is worth its weight in gold.
@user-ti1qy5st3i
@user-ti1qy5st3i 7 ай бұрын
I have to say as a marine engineer I could not stop watching this video! Easily the best, most informative and up to date analisis of current market trends. I like the way you left the best one to the end, in my view Oceanvolt are still number one for yachts.
@francoistheron4904
@francoistheron4904 8 ай бұрын
I am not a sailor but found this one of your best videos yet! Extremely enlightening!
@good.morning.everyone
@good.morning.everyone 8 ай бұрын
It’s interesting to see a company represent the value of regen capabilities based on a use case. It’s not like that capability adds complexity or cost to a system, only to the R&D and design load. So tell me they’re not interested in investing the time in regen capability but somehow all are interested in being considered the best at what they do. Ocean Volt is the only company that seems to understand that a successful implementation of this technology might not fit exactly to how people use a boat now, but it might change the way all people use a sailboat - in the same way that the combustion engine changed automobiles and human mobility.
@mymobile5014
@mymobile5014 8 ай бұрын
Ocean Volt may well be trying to be the best at what they do but come on, £27K for a motor for a 10 metre sailboat? You can actually buy a sailboat for that money. Or 6 diesel engines. Nothing can justify that sort of price.
@SailingUma
@SailingUma 8 ай бұрын
Volume production is the only way to bring the prices of any of these systems down. They’re all still made by hand basically. With European labour costs.
@luckybeanzphoto
@luckybeanzphoto 8 ай бұрын
It still doesn't make it any more affordable today. @@SailingUma would you guys have gone for it if you had to pay full price for it? I would have loved to install one, but the price just couldn't be justified.
@murraymadness4674
@murraymadness4674 8 ай бұрын
As was said in the video, doing regen well in a boat is NOT just software like it is in a car. It requires different propellers and waterflow characteristics.
@pnwcruiser
@pnwcruiser 8 ай бұрын
Oceanvolt's servoprop saildrive sounds terrific but in my case the extra $10K, over the Electric Yacht option with much lower regen performance, is far too much. I suspect the same will be true for most who cruise on a modest budget.
@Glenbard4
@Glenbard4 8 ай бұрын
The hilarious part was the guy saying (correctly) if there’s a problem in a boat you can’t just get out… and his company is the one partnered with Fisher Panda, a company infamous for horrible generators that fail and even worse customer service when their crappy, overpriced products fail.
@johnalberto7855
@johnalberto7855 7 ай бұрын
My experience with Fisher Panda hasn't been very good even after trying to contact a sales person or a manager, they never returned my emails.
@svkotona
@svkotona 8 ай бұрын
We're one of the "performance bulletin" sailboats that the ePropulsion rep mentioned. We are extremely pleased with the electric motor on that boat and are considering another of their motors for our new boat.
@SailingUma
@SailingUma 8 ай бұрын
Would love to hear more about your set up as we couldn’t find ANYTHING on their website about test boats or sea trial numbers or regen tests.
@svkotona
@svkotona 8 ай бұрын
@SailingUma Happy to share. ePropulsions does kinda bury the Performance Bulletins. At the very bottom of their homepage, under the Service heading is a link Performance Bulletin. We installed the Pod 3.0 Evo in our Beneteau 235. While regeneration was a consideration, for us it was more the quiet, and the lack of maintenance. My wife wanted to be able to single-hand the boat but didn't want to have to deal with a recalcitrant outboard. So we went electric and don't regret it at all. The complete system includes the Pod (3kw direct drive motor), motor controller, 4kw 48v battery, throttle, display and cabling. It was mostly a plug and play install. Drilling holes in the bottom of your hull is slightly unnerving the first time you do it, but after that it was pretty straightforward. As far as performance, we were delighted. 1kw (with a clean hull) would keep us at 5kn for about 4 hours. Since we use this boat primarily as a daysailer, and are rarely more than 10 miles from our home port, that was plenty of power to get us back if the wind completely died. Our max calculated range was about 25 miles with just the one 4kw battery. We never pushed it that far; we prefer to sail when possible. One thing I will say about their regen system is that it does work, but. For our use case, inland lakes with a boat that has a 22' waterline and a hull speed of just over 6kn, it didn't really do much. That may be due to the prop being optimized for thrust rather than regen. Oceanvolt definitely has the tech edge there. The most we saw was about 100w at around 5kn and usually more like 75w. But the ePropulsion regen chart (on their Pod page), made it clear that below 6kn you really weren't going to get much back. On a larger boat that can maintain say 7kn or 7.5 kn, and do that on a 200 mile passage, it would have more impact. Happy to answer any other questions, either here or offline. ​
@TheGreenBoater
@TheGreenBoater 7 ай бұрын
I have attended boat shows for over 50 years - my dad was a boat builder - and now cover boat shows as a content creator. I can honestly say that your reporting at METS was nothing short of EPIC! 💥Great insight into all the main players. Rarely do I watch a +57 minute video - but this is worth the time 🕥 if you are serious about the electric propulsion industry for mariners. Thank you Dan and Kika for doing all the heavy🏋‍♂lifting on this one. ~tgb
@goulash75
@goulash75 8 ай бұрын
For me, three companies stood out. Remigo is perfect for a tender or hobby sail boat (and the other similar company... can't remember the name). Combi is the perfect intermediary solution for those who don't want to go fully electric just yet, for what ever reason. And, despite the price, Ocean Volt is on top of the game for fully electric, regenerative propulsion for long term cruisers.
@Dan6erous
@Dan6erous 8 ай бұрын
I'm impressed with these reps. Very friendly, straightforward, and willing to back their products and science. Oceanvolt is great, but very specific. Thanks for exploring all of these options. Everyone's needs are different and specific.
@Satinori_
@Satinori_ 8 ай бұрын
Thanks for this video! For me as a hobby sailor, engineer who worked in the automotive EV-development and DIY-fan, your videos are some of the best that you can find on KZfaq. You know the things that you are talking about. The challenge of recharge on smaller boats seems to be still open.
@jacobKC3MRA
@jacobKC3MRA 8 ай бұрын
We had an ePro on our sailboat and loved it. The boat had about 5k displacement and that motor worked so well.
@mikeroberts1219
@mikeroberts1219 8 ай бұрын
I can’t believe there are people in the electric boat propulsion industry who don’t know who you guys are!! You’re like the og’s of electric sail boats.great video so much to learn at a show like that. Thank-you!!!
@DaEVOthefreak
@DaEVOthefreak 6 ай бұрын
couse that are just normal employes with no enthusiast in there profession
@bogdanconstantin7539
@bogdanconstantin7539 4 ай бұрын
Be shure that they know, just not admiting it for various reasons :)
@richb313
@richb313 8 ай бұрын
Thanks for taking the time to interview and research so many companies in the field not all of them understand your needs and wants regen wise.
@richardelder256
@richardelder256 8 ай бұрын
What a marathon! After watching it I am even more impressed with the pioneer Wylie 44 that I spent two weeks sailing the Bahamas on 16 years ago. It was based around a large, slow turning propeller of optimum shape for efficiency in the 4-10 knot range that the boat regularly delivered. It was always on. When sailing you had the option to have it slowly turning producing no electricity and with essentially no drag, or with a simple move of the throttle you could feed as much electricity into the battery as the system was capable of absorbing or pull power from the battery or from the generator in diesel-electric mode. Out of the entire 40 exhibits in the show only one company followed that philosophy. It is superior to our pioneer system because it had a 360 degree rotating drive and more advanced controllers. My impression was that only that company and Ocean Volt really care about the people like you who want to regen while crossing oceans. The others read their market correctly, because most sailors just want to have an afternoon in the sun and be able to brag about the high tech in their boat at the bar afterwards.
@sailingsarpedon
@sailingsarpedon 8 ай бұрын
Awesome video! Thank you so much for doing this Dan and Kika! It is great to see the awareness building. When we first started looking into electric sailing, it led us to your channel and your homemade electric motor. We have been following along ever since. Keep driving the discussion. It is so important. 🎉
@davidabbett7011
@davidabbett7011 8 ай бұрын
FANTASTIC episode!!! This is the “inside sailing” details we love from you two. Many Thanks again, for this episode.
@SVHummingbird2
@SVHummingbird2 8 ай бұрын
I started watching you two primarily because of your electric propulsion. This was a great trip through the industry. we have an electric motor in our new boat that I haven't yet had in the water, but this coming spring we should be finding out how well it works. And yes it will have regen capability, time will tell how much. Keep up the good work.
@captain_james_draco
@captain_james_draco 7 ай бұрын
Yep
@AlotOfSunInHeaven
@AlotOfSunInHeaven 8 ай бұрын
Quality content! Thank you for taking us along.
@courtrichardson
@courtrichardson 7 ай бұрын
This video was so well done and informative! Your channel provides such an education! Thank you both for the hard work and great job!
@JCGible
@JCGible 7 ай бұрын
Thanks again for all the energy you put into this episode 😊
@southernfriedkiwi7726
@southernfriedkiwi7726 8 ай бұрын
I appreciate how honest some of the company reps were, in regards to the repeated question of "regen". Regen only starts to make sense over 8 knots, but preferably 10. The point people have made about Uma not being worthy of this current gut job, was that it doesn't suit your needs/requirements, going forward. If regen is so important, then it makes more sense to get a larger boat with more length at the waterline(faster) and more real estate for batteries, as well as solar.
@SailingUma
@SailingUma 8 ай бұрын
We can generate more power than we can use currently on Uma when offshore sailing. Sailing at 5kts we break even, anything faster and we’re charging. Of course a boat that can average 10+ kts would be sweet. But we don’t have $1,000,000 just lying around burning a hole in our pocket.
@southernfriedkiwi7726
@southernfriedkiwi7726 8 ай бұрын
@@SailingUma You still fire up your generator though, because your energy storage is depleted very quickly, when used for(very slow) propulsion. My point for a larger vessel is also about having significant space for lifepo4. Generating power through regen, is kind of moot, if you don't have the space to store it. Also, regen math doesn't really add up unless you're on long passages with great daily average kts, which one of the reps brought up. At the end of the day, you guys can do what you want, based on eco ideals. Everyone else though, has to live in the real world where none of us get free tech or significantly discounted tech because of a "channel". The cost in the real world is ridiculous, when compared to ICE tech, with way less practicality. I like the idea of hybrids. I like the idea of quiet anchoring and leaving marinas. General propulsion needs though, can't be seriously replaced with batteries that absolutely have to be switched out in X amount of years, at huge expense.
@donnordstrom31
@donnordstrom31 8 ай бұрын
That 360 degree stuff looks pretty amazing, both for maneuverability and regen.
@C_R_O_M________
@C_R_O_M________ 8 ай бұрын
I loved when you said to the guy at Epropulsion that the 1KW engine isn't going to bring the dingy on plane and he answered "no, definitely not!" and then he made a nonsensical statement saying "it's all about moving the boat efficiently" when in fact bringing the boat on plane IS the most efficient way of using propulsion energy! From this alone one can deduce that this whole circus is a lot of marketing BS. P.S. Electric motors ARE more efficient than ICE motors, that's also a fact, but you'll need to add a lot of weight to a small boat from a huge heavy battery to get a motor powerful enough to get you on plane. Someone needs to calculate a golden ratio for his/her application. In other words...it depends on what your application is.
@ottotimmons
@ottotimmons 8 ай бұрын
That was excellent! I really enjoyed all the interviews and the fun 'endless-aisle-walking' transitions!
@teamstevensonGenEric
@teamstevensonGenEric 8 ай бұрын
Not only learn about sailing but electric propulsion engineering! Love your channel props for continuing to ask on regen - if enough people keep asking and they see a market they will develop.
@animegaming4613
@animegaming4613 23 күн бұрын
Thanks for the leg work! Saved me a lot of time!
@HellyWelly93
@HellyWelly93 8 ай бұрын
Fantastic work! And so thought provoking.
@MogleCorp
@MogleCorp 7 ай бұрын
Thank you for doing this. Well done.
@gertgratlos
@gertgratlos 8 ай бұрын
Super report, thanks for this tense storytelling. Now we are up to date in terms of e-drivelines for our boats! And after all, your walkabout through the Amsterdam RAI Halls reminded me to the days, when I was reporting from there about the newest developments in trucks and trailers. But that was 20 years ago...Go on like that!
@edgarmuller6652
@edgarmuller6652 8 ай бұрын
Great interviews and reviews. Thanks for the leg work. Kika must be tired of running back and forth. You always manage to entertain while inform.
@theunknownunknowns5168
@theunknownunknowns5168 8 ай бұрын
32 mins in, I can clearly see the future of marine electric propulsion is going to use a combination of these ideas. Soooo cool to watch the development.
@6ftS
@6ftS 8 ай бұрын
what a great video. awesome getting total interviews with so many companies that can pitch their products to your established viewer base, reaching the eyes that need to see their stuffs.
@JasRoss
@JasRoss 8 ай бұрын
Guys! Well done on interview prep. Knowledgeable and asking the right questions. Saves the rest of us from making the trip!
@brucehutcheson5371
@brucehutcheson5371 8 ай бұрын
I have built electric outboards before and in the interest in regen, its almost like you need a different unit that is really designed for regen other than the unit that is built for boat drive. Its great to have one unit to do both but I think the regen characteristics would be one that has more prop blades and is designed to spin the motor generator at a high rpm while the unit for moving the boat would be designed with less prop blades and spin at a lower rpm for energy consumption efficiency. Hard to get regen out of a unit designed to drive the boat. Another solution would be to make an outboard that has a high speed and low speed gear drive in the lower end that could be switched back and forth to put it in regen or drive mode. I don't believe anyone has looked at that since regen always seems to be such a low priority to the manufacturer. Every opportunity to make electric power for storage should be considered when doing long distance sailing from prop regen to solar to wind. More power input may allow less battery capacity which is money weight and space. Best of luck to what you end up designing. Hope you find a sponsor there to try out their products and showcase them for both you and their benefit. Love you guys and your channel.
@Sam_Sung_White
@Sam_Sung_White 8 ай бұрын
Great!!! Thanks for glimpse of a very obviously interesting and informative exhibition.
@curtissmith2816
@curtissmith2816 8 ай бұрын
Awesome video! I have the epropulsion 1kw outboard with hydrogeneration on my 2,000-pound trailer sailer. It's great. Yes, the hydrogeneration is not really necessary. It's more like a cool party trick, but I like that I'm learning how hydrogeneration works and what to expect. Because, eventually, I'm going to win the lottery and get a bigger boat.
@thisismyname3328
@thisismyname3328 8 ай бұрын
Looking into electric for my narrowboat, to enjoy all the peace and quiet I can. This is SO interesting!!
@jimmunro4649
@jimmunro4649 8 ай бұрын
Charging in Winter really good and lithium battery's catch fire all the time
@charonstyxferryman
@charonstyxferryman 8 ай бұрын
@@jimmunro4649 Quote you "catch fire all the time" Liar! Li-ion is not the only lithium battery technology out there. LiFePo4 (Lithium Iron Phosphate) is the type of battery used on leisure electric boats.
@lorihutchinson9485
@lorihutchinson9485 8 ай бұрын
Excellent video. Thanks for all your hard work.
@gerryorozco3193
@gerryorozco3193 8 ай бұрын
You guys are awesome!!! Great interview 😊
@jessicamurray1221
@jessicamurray1221 7 ай бұрын
Love how dude from Bellmarine says “watts”. I got this playing in the background as I work and all I keep hearing is him saying *Twatts* 🤣
@geoffreyparkinson3495
@geoffreyparkinson3495 8 ай бұрын
This video was so informative - thank you both for your quality and inspirational vlogs
@JonathanVanVuren
@JonathanVanVuren 8 ай бұрын
Very eye opening, I really enjoyed the episode. The Combi caught my eye as I’ve been considering a larger alternator already. We aren’t full time live aboard cruisers (yet) and the ability to keep our 55 Yanmar that’s in good condition AND enjoy the benefits of electric propulsion in and out of the marina daily is super appealing. Will be checking it out more!
@jimfisk4474
@jimfisk4474 8 ай бұрын
Hi Dan and k i k a, the Regeneration aspect of the batteries is really cool. Amazing the Motor companies involved add new ones coming along all the time. Within 5 years or more I just b e t j a they will double the speed of boats. Thanks for taking us along and catch you next time.❤❤❤
@paulas_lens
@paulas_lens 8 ай бұрын
This is such valuable information you are sharing. Love your engineering focus.
@SV_Aroo
@SV_Aroo 8 ай бұрын
Great episode guys. It was fun seeing their reaction when they realized you might be seeing through the smoke. Some interesting takes on regen.
@gsh341
@gsh341 8 ай бұрын
Oceanvolt seemed to be the only company that was really interested in finding solutions for the 30' to 60' full time, live-abord, cruising sailboats.
@dajobra
@dajobra 8 ай бұрын
Don't overlook those combi guy's, they have a big used boat market
@thorpowell6571
@thorpowell6571 8 ай бұрын
I priced a OV unit for my sailboat.... the price was eye watering.
@gsh341
@gsh341 8 ай бұрын
@@thorpowell6571 They aren't cheap, but then, they are meant to last for the life of the boat and be a complete replacement for a diesel motor. Not to mention the diesel engine might be cheaper, but you have to constantly buy diesel which adds up. If you run out of diesel on the water, you're SOL. If the batteries on your boat die on the water, you can recharge as you sail through regeneration or solar.
@pnwcruiser
@pnwcruiser 8 ай бұрын
Check out Electric Yacht. They don't offer the high performance servoprop, which sounds terrific, but the price is much lower for a KW equivalent saildrive. I haven't made a final decision for my 36' sloop yet but Electric Yacht is looking like the best option. $10K more, essentially for much better regen, is just too much for my budget.
@arjanvanderweck5453
@arjanvanderweck5453 8 ай бұрын
Absolutely great video guys! Learned a lot!
@hansschweikert9153
@hansschweikert9153 8 ай бұрын
Wow. The benefit to the community can not be overstated. Great info. Thank you.
@richardherndon1541
@richardherndon1541 8 ай бұрын
Extremely informative! I loved the walking B roll shots!
@nanoceramics2747
@nanoceramics2747 8 ай бұрын
excellent, very educational, You are differentiating yourselves from the others. We as sailers enjoy learning new things in the market.
@rcmedway
@rcmedway 8 ай бұрын
Brilliant! So much information. Saved me going there. I'm a sailor to. Regen makes total sense to me.. but you must realize that not many people do what you are doing - which is why I watch you : -) - FYI - have a Torqeedo for my dinghy. Would not recommend. Great outboard, but when I had problems, customer service sucked. Still broken.
@RJMSINCR
@RJMSINCR 8 ай бұрын
Great Job, guys! This is better than attending the show in person!
@SailingwithScott
@SailingwithScott 8 ай бұрын
Very Informative. Well done reporters!
@holyngrace7806
@holyngrace7806 8 ай бұрын
Super useful episode folks, many thanks for sharing!
@herberthahn6964
@herberthahn6964 8 ай бұрын
Amazing! The content is more than I would have believed possible. Your exceptional interview skills were pivotal, to showcasing the vast array of electric drive, and regeneration products currently on the market, and under development. My understanding of the issues has broadened. I especially appreciate receiving quality content from smiling venders. This video is simply amazing!
@theelegantnerd005
@theelegantnerd005 8 ай бұрын
This episode is amazing!! Thank you for doing this! ❤
@TheSharkGirls
@TheSharkGirls 8 ай бұрын
Great work. We've had a Thoosa on our 50ft Alu Sloop since before they were Clean eMarine. Regen gets going around 8 knots. We also have solar & direct wind. The batteries are the limit. We have a diesel backup.
@fifich6953
@fifich6953 8 ай бұрын
Now that was certainly educational and interesting documentary. Way above any other technical written or produced stuff found on the web. Once again an awesome job done by you both!!
@Leblueskee
@Leblueskee 4 ай бұрын
I've been watching you guys for so many years and I still love every single video you post. I love this one cause I never seem to be able to make it to stuff like this but you guys got in depth reviews and didn't ruin it with lies like most people would because of a sponsorship. Thanks for all that you guys do
@MarkSpohr
@MarkSpohr 8 ай бұрын
Thanks for this exhaustive (and exhausting) survey of electric motors.
@SailingSisu
@SailingSisu 8 ай бұрын
Wow, another incredible and eye-opening video, Dan! You really did your research and brought the truth about electric propulsion to light. It's great to see a customer like you with so much knowledge challenging the salesperson. Your experience truly shines through. Also, a big shoutout to Kika for her amazing interviewing skills. This is definitely one of the best videos yet, I found it extremely enlightening. It's fascinating to see companies like Ocean Volt understanding the potential of regen capabilities and how it could revolutionize the way we use sailboats. Amazing job, Kika and Dan, on providing all this valuable information. Thank you for sharing your journey with us!
@downwind_david
@downwind_david 8 ай бұрын
I've been running an E-propulsion Spirit 1.0 on the back of my 6m trailer sailer for over four years now, so it is interesting to see how far the market has developed, as it was really only E-Prop and Torqeedo who had anything half decent when I first started looking. I'm currently slowly upgrading a 30 footer, and electric propulsion will feature eventually, so thanks very much for the video - shame that the regen offerings are still pretty limited. Looking forward to any follow up videos of the few companies that showed some promise.
@carlamerritt490
@carlamerritt490 8 ай бұрын
UMA knows their viewers! I seriously loved this one. I'm gonna end up watching this one multiple times. Love the editing also! ❤
@dougsrepair1060
@dougsrepair1060 7 ай бұрын
To be honest I almost gave this episode a pass. But, I have to admit it is very interesting and you guys did a fantastic job of capturing the interview. I give you top marks on this.
@life.sunsets.sunrises
@life.sunsets.sunrises 8 ай бұрын
Amazing as always guys, you know your stuff and soon sort what is the right way to go!!
@jakobschoen6499
@jakobschoen6499 8 ай бұрын
As an electric car driver and a big fan of your channel, I found this episode particularly interesting.🤩👍🏻
@evaodland7349
@evaodland7349 8 ай бұрын
I have a 30 foot flush deck race boat (6200 lbs displacement ) with a dead inboard diesel (BMW D7) I am looking to replace with a electric propulsion system. Just on-off dock and to from race course if becalmed. Looking at keeping the prop shaft and folding prop - regen not needed. Simple.
@piaottiker9829
@piaottiker9829 5 ай бұрын
For me my favorite was ep technologies because he said us what we needed to hear about the saildrive and not what we were wanting to hear. I love ur videos they are very informative thx
@cliffnicholls
@cliffnicholls 6 ай бұрын
Brilliant video guys, thanks for a superbly informative piece of work. As a sailor I am very interested in this technology, and like you, I think the holy grail is regen. I think in the next few years the norm for new boats will be hybrid systems that offer at least 3-4 hours of range from a battery system that can be recharged either from regeneration or a backup generator. What would be nice to see is a system that can be retrofitted to older sail boats which most of us sail at sensible price!
@brucemckelvy9920
@brucemckelvy9920 8 ай бұрын
I thought it was interesting in most of the presentations that they had no idea the experience level both of you have with electric power and regen. I had to smile at some of the responses when you asked about regen capabilities. :-). Very informative. Thanks for filming.
@Jimbob-gs5kl
@Jimbob-gs5kl 8 ай бұрын
Would love to see your understanding of all things electric converted into a graphic animation of how it all works. I reckon, with your abilities, you'd probably find someone to do that! Would really get those of us interested in the engineering, but not the conceptual knowledge, up to speed (especially for the Combi one!). Fantastically engaging video, as always. Great seeing the enthusiasm, passion and ability demonstrated in these companies and by Dan!
@RaulMartinez-ln8zq
@RaulMartinez-ln8zq 8 ай бұрын
As usual great video Dan and Kika, thank you for sharing so much information. Hey you should do a raffle to guess which brand you will go with.... my guess will be Ocean Volt !
@ojayvanheerden9120
@ojayvanheerden9120 8 ай бұрын
Great documentary, thank you for sharing
@munbeam1
@munbeam1 8 ай бұрын
I like the hybrid options at 1st. Then eventually go full electric once engine needs to be replaced. Also what I got out of the regen is the haul type. Full keels it's harder. Great interviews and information given.
@aldotoolsandtravel2655
@aldotoolsandtravel2655 7 ай бұрын
I would love to see a battery pack that you can be bolted onto the keel so that it adds to the keel weight, keeps cool and is outside the boat. Plus it can't catch on fire.
@7drobin
@7drobin 8 ай бұрын
Whao, there is some much stuff that I was not aware off. Fantastic! Thanks for bringing those to my attention.C'est manifique!!!!
@user-Moe6969
@user-Moe6969 8 ай бұрын
My fav episode yet....so informative. I am especially loving the diesel/electrical hybrid motor unit/company....so simple for a boat with a decent existing petrol motor. 😎
@fatherfoxstrongpaw8968
@fatherfoxstrongpaw8968 4 ай бұрын
ocean volt isn't the only ones finally learning why planes have props facing forward (puller/tractor config) vs facing backwards (pusher). the 2 biggest reasons having the prop facing back is convenience in engine placement as well as less prop snagging on ropes, seaweeds debris, rocks etc, but facing forwards is maximum efficiency since there's nothing in front of the prop to take wind (or water) away. it's just more susceptible to damage, snags and drag. some twin engine planes also feather their props in the event of a single motor loss to prevent weatherveining causing a flat spin due to drag. ocean volt got it right for a static mount. i like the EPT better since the prop is more efficient. either way, if your facing forward, go feathering. facing back wards, furling.
@ryanh4889
@ryanh4889 8 ай бұрын
I was at Mets 5 years ago. Such a different scene than the typical USA 'boat show'. The companies you interviewed were obviously well versed in what they were trying to market. Great information.
@jckirby7994
@jckirby7994 8 ай бұрын
❤ thanks Dan and Kika We love love love you guys...I was on a US Navy ship with ALCO diesel engines and alco generators the USS barnstable LST 1197
@rangie944
@rangie944 8 ай бұрын
Absolutely fascinating to see the forefront of marine technology. Thanks both for the huge amount of research and sharing this information with us.
@BobFirth
@BobFirth 8 ай бұрын
Excellent report.
@cuffeemia2108
@cuffeemia2108 Ай бұрын
These side missions are great mix into the regular boatwork schedule
@exkinky
@exkinky 8 ай бұрын
This was excellent. The best.
@jvphelan1
@jvphelan1 8 ай бұрын
Awesome segment. Thanks.
@markhubbard70
@markhubbard70 8 ай бұрын
Such a good video - thank you!
@avoirdupois1
@avoirdupois1 7 ай бұрын
Thanks for doing all of this hard work to highlight a growing industry!
@walkerig1
@walkerig1 8 ай бұрын
This was a great informative episode!
@sittinandthinkin
@sittinandthinkin 7 ай бұрын
Not looking for any boat or specifically electric propulsion for myself personally, but I found this episode informative and interesting. Well done guys.
@danielglinoer4189
@danielglinoer4189 8 ай бұрын
Excellent video, even for the non sailor and non expert ... like me; thanks for sharing your experience !
@ae7v
@ae7v 8 ай бұрын
Really enjoyed this video. I learned quite a bit myself. Big cudos on the music chosen and the Kika variance waking . That was fun and kept this kind of boring topic interesting. Also, it appears that in some of the interviews you knew more than the unsuspecting sales person that probably took a youtube channel for granite. ❤
@TheAtma50
@TheAtma50 8 ай бұрын
Fantastic presentation. All companies interviewed had their own angles to the same question, Combi looked good but would weight and space be an issue? EPTechnologies looked good until the regen comment, Kika spoke volumes with the look @46.24. Omega Grey had a very good presentation too but Ocean Volt seemed to me to have won this debate so far. Again, I must compliment your research and presentation. Looking forward to what comes next! Stay Safe & Fair Winds!! ☘
@obsidianjane4413
@obsidianjane4413 8 ай бұрын
I love trade shows. This is an awesome resource for a snapshot of the state-o-the-art-at-the -moment. Well done.
@abcangirl
@abcangirl 8 ай бұрын
😮THIS episode was mind-blowing and so enlightening. I am certain the average person has no idea how far this technology has come. I live in Alberta with a premier who is so addicted to oil and gas, it makes me want to cry. After shutting down Alternative Energy companies, and promising future electricity powered by gas, I feel we are reversing into the dark ages. The knowledge I have gained from watching this video, gives me hope. There must be change! I feel it is happening too slow for my liking. I am retired now but I so want to leave this earth with hope for my young relatives and future generations. The few moments I spend with you watching your adventures and the pure happiness you exude, brings a brightness to my days.❤🎵🐻🌎🌠
@C_R_O_M________
@C_R_O_M________ 8 ай бұрын
Stick with that premier, she knows much better than you! P.S. Let me phrase it differently: you don't know what you are talking about!
@novaluxe963
@novaluxe963 7 ай бұрын
Great video, one thing you may not know is regeneration acts differently for Permanent Magnet motors and Asynchronis motors (two common ones). The difference is an Asynchonis motor can be allowed to freewheel (just spin without resistance) and a permanent magnet cannot. The Pod motors from WaterWorld are permanent magnet and they have excellent regeneration but its not yet released because fringe scenarios still need to be accounted for by the programming. Specifically, preventing regeneration when batteries are full. A folding prop is a mechanical way to prevent regeneration and is the suggested method for sailboats but other options may be better. Regen is a complicated problem but long story short all electric motors can do it. Next 5 years will see a lot of optimization in this space.
@ernestbuchanan5305
@ernestbuchanan5305 8 ай бұрын
Great video! I am quite fond of Elco, my father used to work very near their old PT boat facility in Nyack NY. Their outboard motors are beautiful, but the right angle drive could be a maintenance/noise/efficiency issue. I do think that direct drive systems are better overall. I'm experimenting with an "on the cheap" Newport Vessels 62 pound thrust trolling motor (on our Compac 23). While weak, it is incredibly light and quiet. Electric could be the future, especially after a long battle with ethanol fuel and other issues with a Tohatsu 6. After finding a source of non-ethanol and myriad modifications it is now perfectly reliable, but it seems there must be a better way.
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