They found it hard to make it onto the Radio One playlist, possibly because it was drawn up by nonces

She certainly is!

@@KENKENNIFF When wasn't it?! Please, the best 80s acts had the same problem, among others!

I agree all of it.

They were on a par with Pulp music wise. Just like Pulp they weren't exactly typical britpop but more indie disco

it did come from the 90s

True. I'm in the States and they are fantastic. As strong a body of anyone or group in the last 30 years. The bonus disc of Continental is unbelievably good.

@@vernpascal1531 do you know where I could listen to this Continental Deluxe version? Also can't find bsides to Good Humor anywhere:/

Please, the 80s was full of acts who barely got any of the success they deserved while over-charting and over-playing all the utter shit like slagdonna, cure, bon jovi, pill collins, minogue, houston, turner, madness, sting, paul weller and his bands, dexys midnight scummers, etc. Saint Etienne did well enough to chart some albums where they did and singles too. It's not true they don't have some weak songs-they do, like 'The Avenue' and I wouldn't buy their albums, but they've more right to be chart-bound then virtually everything back then. Only a few things like Dubstar and Ace Of Base and Tasmin Archer managed to matter, beyond 80s quality acts still working.

@@kyachdistent1301 Cure were NOT SHIT

@@waynedarronwalls6468 Then she must be singing about YOU as you're CLEARLY in a bad way if you proclaim the shitty, crappy, twatty, dumb-as-fuck, embarrassing none-entities of nonsense called The Cure (and boy would they and we ever need one!) were "NOT SHIT". I like the 'were' bit, though, makes it sound like they're FINALLY gone, though that was a few decades too late). Otherwise I may have answered you could be on to something: "they're WERE NOT SHIT, they ARE STILL SHIT". I got ears and eyes luv, and they're as shit as Spamhead Ballet, Bon Jovial and Wet Wet Wetter are. Oh and all the Beatles shitpop wannabees and boyband losers that followed. All the crappy girls too! But what this has all got to do with Saint Etienne I'll never know, but then again, it's all irrelevant is as irrelevant does as what the Cure have to do with music in the first place (like Madogga the vile) I'll never know, nor the rest of the world.

Too much great music???!!! A decade where c/rap exploded everywhere, while howling, caterwauling bags Pariah Carey and Celine Dion shrieked your ears off with their banal shit, while equally shit where the vile boyband muppet puppets Take Crap, New Kids, N-Sick, Westlife, Bollockzone, while tuneless embarrassing hags like Sheryl Crow thought they were doing something 'new' for women. Bjork was unfathomable, Alannis Morisette didn't start singing properly till her 'in' phase was over, and even Tori Amos makes no fucking sense with her weirdo fairytale thesaurus book of high-prenetious pontification, though she sings lovely. The poncy Suede, loathsome Beatles-knock off Oasis, embarrassing Blurb, disgusting Peter Andre, and then bimbo slagland girlband plague of Spice Girl/Eternal/All Saints bad crap, while the 'indie' ones like forgettable Sleeper/Elastica were no better, just disappared mercifully swifter. Rap continued to suck, soul lost itself in stripped down pop garbage, and equally badly, all the no hopers from the 80s like slagdonna the vile, minogue, estefan, turner, sting, weller, collins, houston, the jacksons carried on too, adding worse to an already unendurable mess. This following the wonderful 80s was too much to bear, but here and there a few decent things managed to breathe, if still not quite in the 80s league. But even all this paled slightly against the even more noxious offshoots once the decade turned, though they now simply added to the mix, as most of this 90s rubbish didn't go anywhere, just carried on-like plagues do. "Too much great music"?! If that wasn't so horrendously wrong and offensive, it'd be almost ha ha! Almost...

@@kyachdistent1301 A very valid evaluation

Late 90s sucked. Too much depressive shyte.

As a teenager, I always longed for a Sarah Cracknell-type who would tell me she was on my side, that's for sure! 😂 I know for a fact that I wasn't the only teenage boy in the 90s who had a crush on her - but she was a genuinely lovely person too

So true. I remember that optimism surrounding the new wave of music at that time (before it was labelled by a journalist) coming out of London and the North. It was briefly a magical time to be young and obsessed with alternative music and fashion as most people I knew at the time were.

"the world was genuinely a kinder more caring place." Except it wasn't. It had the same petty cruelness it has now, yet was generally less understanding and tolerant of people's differences. It was a great time to be young, but you're viewing it through rose-tinted glasses.

Right, the difference was nobody had to think too hard about anything because it was all out of sight, out of mind, and "our side" could do whatever they liked on the world stage while pretending there'd never be any consequences. Now the consequences are arriving and people pine for the exact world that brought them about 🙃

Indeed

The early 90s was THE best time to be alive in global history, but it all turned to shit overnight between 94 + 95; britpop, Spice Slags, Alcopops sold to Minors, Ladettes and general underclass yob orientation was the mainstream norm by then ! Hey, people thought there was something wrong with you in the late 90s if you were a teen boy who wasn't interested in being 'hard ' !

Serene Chaos UK Hey, I know what you mean. I can relate.

glad someone else realizes the reality of the 90s ! I get pissed off when Seal, Cathy Dennis and acid house are associated with Spice Slags, Oasis, Friends, etc !

I think the 90's went downhill after 97. Different Class was the highlight for me.

I'm in a bad way because someone above me means to cause me harm

one of a few

Yes, pure pop perfection, visually and musically.

Could be worse bud, we could have bison head managing our great club 😭

It's a belter of a tune.

arita2006 is that after yah have watched the toon. Lol

The club's on the up same as the song.

This and Heartache Avenue by The Maisonettes are fantastic

A man could lose himself - looooooosseeee himself !

I thought it was Richard Basehart from an old Colombo episode.

Listening in Winter Lockdown 2021...

I agree, I think it was unfortunate that they were around when the quality of music was at its best😍

Listening to this in March 2021. Never get fed up listening to this.

2021 and i'm still close in my home.

2024 here

Yup. Joe Meek. Good driving bass in this, too.

yep, ye olde phone for ye olde people. smart phones now, see where this is going ?

I see. Thank you.

@@annuvynarawn392 Smart phones don't make people smart....

You qualify for free entry to Pedant of the century. Congratulations.

The irony is that many people of age you assume would not know what it is are actually very much interested in old technology and could give you a run for your money in that aspect, actually explaining how it worked. But yeah, keep shaming non-existent "lost" generation, just as your parents did to yours. The circle keeps spinning.

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Scary thing, it’s starting to feel that way now. The past is becoming another country, and I want to back…

John Rhodes yup " Telstar" !

Very much Telstar which makes this even more of a retro inspired gem of a song and group.

Still is, honestly 👍

Dubstar-until Sarah Blackwood ruined it.

Wow great fact thanks she really would of been out of this world !!!

Me too - I'm 46. We old 😂

I'm 46 and I'm not old, 80+ is old, always thought that as a kid!