👏👏👏👏👏👏 , loved that!

He is brilliant, we are blessed to have Douglas Murray.

Don't you just love him?! He's a global treasure!

@@littlemarmoset He has my total respect!

What about Lesbian violence Women go historical always men ......

I highly recommend reading Fred Sargeants tweets. They are fabulous. So witty.

Believe me… the vast majority think the same

_"It's so refreshing to constantly hear the same BS from others as what I believe in."_ - The Patriarchy-Is-Totes-Real Bubble Well, good luck with that. And try to not let Julie Bindel lock you up in a man camp if you can.

Gay used to mean “happy” and was widely used in conversation and written material, but now there is a stigma to this word and it is never used apart from the new meaning of homosexual. I resent this as many others do , now the homosexuals have stolen the word “pride “ as well and also the rainbow . If homosexuals are trying to be accepted in the societies they live in they should try to be more considerate , not everyone wants to see their outlandish street parades with semi naked people and pseudo homosexual acts or want their children exposed to this .

@@TheGreatIndoors1979 Man camp sounds alright to me.

Unfortunately, to a lot of impressionable young people, they're not colourful enough for them. Give them plastic pop of Miley Cyrus and Ellie Goulding and you're talking their level.

A man and listen to feminists can it be more lower than that 😂

Straight white woman, same here.

Yeah, exactly. They have different political views and yet they can agree on so many things. They treat each other with respect. Two wise people in the age of madness, more interested in fighting the madness than arguing each other.

Same here.

@@IronChefBklyn Watch out for the cornhole, bud.

IKR? Have to find sites like this to reinforce that there are normal people on the planet.

Abso-flipping-lutely. Two voices of sanity in a parched rainbow desert.

​@@isotopiary I Was With This Woman ♀️ Until She Complained About How Women ♀️ Are At More Of Disadvantage Then Men ♂️ How Men ♂️ Have A Higher Rate Of Suicide Homicide Disease Illness Injuries Mental Health Problems Higher Rates Of Imprisonment Violence Against Them Also Why Is She Complaining About Sex Workers Why If 2 People Have Agreed Consensual Sex With Each Other For Money 🤑💰 Who Cares What About Disabled People Who Arnt Able To Experience Sexual Relationships Are They Just Supposed To Denied That Opportunity Because This Women ♀️ Dosent Approve Of Sex Workers?.

is that the hb in the new lgbt+?

My thoughts exactly 💯

That’s good because the increasing utility of the victim card is a huge part of how we got here.

And so is Julie Bindel, woman for you. That was a great discussion and even quite funny.

Allowing yaself to be a victim is a dead end. Most of the time, one can learn to play ones hand better, learn from one's mistakes. But you gotta own them first!

@@Individual_Lives_Matteryep and Even though I like Bindel - her group of feminists are the ones that started identity politics and the oppression Olympics but then it turned on them. And here we are in a complete mess where most forms of communication are disqualified right off the bat due to the skin color and sex of the person saying it

She is like most women - revels in playing the victim card and is a long time misandrist! E.g. all her references to male violence, yet she is part of the community with the highest rates of reported IPV - the lesbian community!

What else would you expect from the mentally ill?

Or else!

There's nothing about a socialist that cannot be improved by a long freefall from a helicopter.

Yet..can you guess what group is victimized by murder more than any other?

Change the word could, to did.

Yes!

Yes, but's hardly what I'd call an interview. The problem with this format is that anything can be said and never challenged. It's really just a forum for rhetoric.

He's not ugly either is he!

Anthony Kelly That's how you come to understand other people's perspective - by allowing them to talk instead of trying to disprove them. Such are the "dangers" of living in a pluralistic and tolerant society.

@@anthony-kellyInterviewers are not obliged to always challenge their interviewees. Sometimes we just want perspectives. This isn’t CNN letting democrats get away with lying or Fox doing the same for their team. Sometimes interviewers talk entirely too much. I don’t know who this young man is, but I’m willing to bet he doesn’t have nearly the breadth of depth to add to this topic as these two. Time and place, mate.

😂😂

Finally, someone mentioning mysogyny. It's the most under-mentioned subject.

Julie's got one record spinning her deck....misogyny....funny how the majority of people supporting the gender bs are female isn't it..#awkward

What IS Narcissim?

@@jackrainbow560 they control they self centered lie ruin peoples lives I married one

There is no bigger narcissists than gay males.

Indeed I appreciate it when the hosts let their guests actually talk. It's always much more interesting especially with guests like Douglas Murray.

Exactly my thought. The counterpart of Napoleon's saying 'never interrupt your enemy when he's making a mistake' is 'never interrupt your friend when they're talking sense'.

Seriously. Excellent interviewer and listener.

@@veritas4698 The Spectator does this style very well. Long may it continue

@@LeviNotik Agreed. He was listening intensely and I feel he'll go a long way.

@@teams3345 respect ✊

@@vincenzobonadonna4556 Yes, not flamboyant and proud of myself in what we have achieved.

Also the fact that they are listening to each other, which is quality they both have in spades. It's damn refreshing

I totally agree. How lovely to actually listen to each other and sometimes agree!

If he has a gay man has never been to a pride he probably shouldn’t speak on it

Douglas does what comedians are supposed to do - he points out absurdity.

@Zaranski III Bindel's jab towards the LGHDTVetc. letter combination was also perfect.

he's much funnier!

His delivery and timing are impeccable

@@tubetorpedo yeah that made me lol

Well, we should be interested in this topic sooner than later. It is not anymore about equal rights. It is about the beginning of tyrannical structures.

People of common sense ALWAYS have more in common than not - no matter what side of the political aisle they are from.

As a heterosexual woman, I think Douglas and Julie are absolutely brilliant, and the points they make here are excellent and so on point!

You forgot hateful.

@@hayleylongster4698 👍

@@damntexan9121 My uncle felt the same way. He hates what has happened to his community.

As a straight male WASP, I agree.

​@@TheWhitehiker WASP?

@@bobclark6703 White Anglo-Saxon Protestant

@@bobclark6703 where are you from, bob?

@@bobclark6703 In the United States, White Anglo-Saxon Protestants or WASPs is a sociological term which is often used to describe white Protestant Americans who are generally part of the white upper-class, historically mostly Mainline Protestant elite, though definitions may vary;[2][3] typically or most consistently, White Anglo-Saxon Protestants are of British descent.[ Wikipedia. I was there as a legal alien when the term was coined.

Julie has onw

I'll agree with that. His books are fantastic even though they're more than a little depressing.

@@stephenthomas1492 Yes, the truth of where we are now in “the West” is depressing.

These two were great to listen to

@@TimelordUK Julie Bindel hates men. She's a radical feminist bigot.

Julie Bindel thinks men should be confined to concentration camps, literally. Look it up.

Yup me too!!

Enjoy. He's gay? Gosh, ... and? He can also spell.

So is Julie

Welcome to the club 😂

Your life will improve from this point on!!❤

We're in a spiritual war. Against God.

No one cares if someone is gay, it's been this way for at least 20 years. It's all false victimhood.

@@jamesclark6487 Legal protection for gay and lesbian couples, and decriminalisation , that is all important and worthy and that is what the original pride parade celebrated. It got hijacked by the trans militia and turned into alphabet soup. I'm glad the lgb community are fighting to be separated from this mess. Their new group Gays against Groomers is a great start.

Narcissists is the key. It really does seem to have lost the point and more about attention seekers

@@sabsmcdabs7139 it's surpassed the look at me I'm special mentality, too Become like ME. It's truly sickening

Grooming began: "It was a march from Hyde Park to Trafalgar Square in central London protesting against the UK’s unequal age of consent: 16 for heterosexuals, but 21 for gay men. “One way we protested was to kiss each other in Hyde Park,” Brown remembers."

You were marching to promote tolerance and acceptance. What is happening now is a concerted premeditated attempt to undermine the concept of heteronormativity, using you as social armour , so they can cry “ homophobe “ or “ Transphobe “ when they meet understandable resistance from people objecting to their children being subjected to deliberately subversive and indoctrinating queer theory .

@@nuqwestr "grooming"?

@@nuqwestr How is that grooming, so much as an end to hypocrisy?

Back then there was actually something to fight for. As a straight woman I know this.

I want to hear her on every newscast

No kidding. And hats off to him for pointing out how these ball-less wackos always go after women for holding those views.

@@MelC-td9bg Julie Bindel is a radical feminist misandrist. She's as ideological as it gets. People disagreeing with you has nothing to do with sex.

When will Bindel call out feminist BS? Probably never.

What a great idea!

I could just listen to them talk all day.

It would be fantastic

Yes please!

#metoo :-)

No surprise. He's handsome and reasonable.

Me too - and I’m a straight bloke. I love wit, style and charisma wherever I find them.

@@richardatkinson4710 You kind of steal my words. 🙂

I met him in Toronto, he is so hot

Bindel is an unhinged dangerous radical TERF, as unhinged as the trans-activists.

Julie is a feminist loon who hates men.

Only one

Stonewall was in 1969. We're living in 2024 - the caravan has long passed.

It's such a breath of fresh air in this insane world we live in.

Nothing but a hate fest.

@@myi2433 in what way?

@@myi2433 I'm gay and I agree 100% LGB✂TQIA+

​@@myi2433 ah yes, the old ;"I disagree, therefore it's hate /toxic/dangerous" point. Exactly the perspective we should be laughing at.

He's wonderfully sarcastic!

And Douglas Murray can also be wrong as well! The Brown and the Black that have been added to the rainbow flag do NOT represent "the browns people" but a sexual 'diversity' called scatting, and the black stands for necrophilia.

​@@oldmanfromscenetwentyfour8164i'm pretty sure there are people who get offended by such sarcasm...

@@MeowingCat835 I certainly hope so!

@@oldmanfromscenetwentyfour8164 i mean, nowadays people get offended on everything... Say Jim is fat? Ew, now you're fatphobic! Say you don't want to date transgender man? Eeewwww, transphobic! Your daugther plays with trucks? Let's chop off her breasts and change her vulva to penis? Scary!

No, nothing!

So true 😂

Only to crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentations of their women. But how often does that happen these days?

Good for you. Be yourself. Mob mentality is always bad

@@kate60 I don’t do group anything

I think most people, whatever their sexual orientation just want to quietly get on with their lives.

@@mignoncat1 Very wise

@@angelawhitehouse8066 As it should be. Good character is what matters.

I agree. I know he is gay but I have always had a bit of a crush on him. I love a no bullshit*t , intellectual man.

@@wideye2901 …The event probably triggered more anti-gay feelings than any other. When I briefly saw it, I immediately thought the same and left in disgust shortly afterward, feeling that it was likely more harmful to the gay community than helpful. As Douglas rightly points out, it reflects a massive and quite fundamental lack of taste. It also reflects a profound and narcissistic disregard for the emotions of others.

So sorry my love. This is horrible.

My husband and I wld go for a walk w/ kids on a popular street, we didn't know it was Pride Parade. We stayed. I liked the footwear..it was a good vibe, nothing obscene, a lot of leather but so what. I was glad when gay ppl were given same rights as straight married ppl. But at that time, everyone stayed in their lane. My 6 yr old daughter disliked the colors GAP for kids had for girls, pale blue, pink, lavender, she'd go pick out a hoody from " boys " side, colors- navy, red, green. A salesperson said oh sweetie, your clothes r over there, and I said, she can wear whst color she wants. She wanted to be in boxing. So I put her in boxing. She's a gorgous high maintenance ($$,) nails, long streaked blonde hair, gorgous, who's been with same guy 7 yrs. She's straight, has gay friends. Oh and she's a roofer. I don't believe in gender colors, toys, (btw, she can carry the 70lb loads) but I do think men are bigger, stronger, faster, and that a man is king of his castle. She does the cooking/ cleaning, and pays half the rent. There's so many, if u watch y/ t, entitled young women, I can't wait til they're 30, I'm 55. I'm invisible, but, I had my day in the sun, now it's my daughters turn. They both hsve conservative, but open minded, loving ❤️ 's. I'm really proud of them. If one were to be gay, I'd love her the same. I wish ppl cld just stop being crazy, and the new teaching kids they can b this or that, I detest. Let them figure it out. Just stop. Please.

​@freebird1477 I mean, I get that most people have their subjective standards of "decency" and there are vague laws related to one's appearance and behavior in public, but the kneejerk negativity to a joyful celebration is unfortunate... I'm wondering if there isn't an overall pendulum shift occurring among the vocal masses in reaction to the mainstreamification of various culturally "left" causes such as gay and trans rights, accompanied by a perceived overreach and authoritarian tendency. I'm a far lefty myself and identify with your approach. But I'm noticing something like this going on that most leftists haven't been open to honestly addressing.

@eemoogee160 I'm not a lefty anymore, I'm more + more convinced that the less govt interference in our daily affairs is best, big govt= big $$$, and I believe most govts of western world are WEF puppets. I believe in equality, for all, but not equity. I find it offensive + racist. The pride parades were lgb, I'm sure we've always had transppl in our midst, but it wasn't this " a man can claim he feels like a woman and b recognized as such" Evrn tho he is clearly a man. Or if they do dress as women, it's caricature, w/ overdone terrible makeup, sleazy clothes, I think those hate women. And somehow, I sorta blame feminists for their b.s. claim thst women can do anything men can do, it's been turned on it's head and women are being wiped out. The biggest problem to me, is the garbage that started in universities , ppl warching/ believing the lies on TV, and the worst, the lie they tell children that they can choose to b a boy or a girl. And the underhanded way the sex clinics have gotten away w/ no parental consulting. Idk what I would do if my 16 yr old daughter came home after having had top surgery. I can't post it here. It's those things that upset me, about the trans, + transwomen in sports. I don't want to dislike any group of ppl, but that one seems so clearly a lie/ threat/ , and I can't believe anyone supports such evilness.

Julie Bindel is a radical feminist misandrist. She's as ideological as it gets.

Yes!

Someone being complimented for not saying anything always strikes me as mildly insulting lol

​@@brittybee6615 on the contrary, it's refreshing to see someone (for want of a better phrase) "know their place" and do what they're there to do without inserting themselves unnecessarily... Far too few these days seem capable of it, it's definitely praise.

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I completely agree with you. Douglas is top notch.

I just think he comes across as an arrogant twat.

Are you sure you're a heterosexual man?

I’ve always liked Douglas Murray, speaking as an Irish gay man and Irish Catholic Patriot in the U.K. 21 years - we will be having “pride” here in Manchester in August and I aim to be as far away from it as possible

@@beatonthedonis Abso-freakin- loot-lee. Would care to challenge.

It's certainly a pleasure to hear him let fly! 😊

100% agree

I agree. A blessing indeed.

I'd say 95% of it is his dialect. Still a smart guy, obviously.

try to remember what Douglas said about your sexual proclivities being the least interesting thing about you

Thanks for demonstrating why you people are still a problem to society.

@@gdog2831 most off these people depend on their hyper fixated sexuality being their identity.

Bindel is a twisted man-hater, always has been, and has made a career out of it: the only reason she was civil to Douglas is because he's gay - plus she knows he'd tear her to shreds if she tried to disrespect him.

Remove 'homosexual', and your statement remains true 👍

Julie seems to play up the Feminist victim narrative pretty hard. (Misogyny everywhere) Doesn't give me confidence in her arguments.

​​@ardvark8699 Yes, Julie Bindel is insufferable. But then again, she's a radical feminist so I expect nothing less.

@@ardvark8699 Exactly. She helped birth this monster that has turned to bite the hand that fed it. Irony has been lost on these people.

@@ardvark8699 Right back to Douglas Murray's words. He has the same views but you attack her.

@@ardvark8699 That was fast. And the next comment I read leaving here is a gay male calling out the misogyny. He gets praise though.

It was too short wasn’t it. Could have easily broken a KZfaq vid record and sat for 10 hours listening to them ❤️🧠

Bindel is a man-hating feminist harpy of the worst kind. She is easily as bad as the trans lobby.

Funny voices???

It was great that the Spectator had the common-sense to allow a much longer discussion than they normally do.

They are from Europe.

It'd be hilarious

Yes!!!

Hahaha brilliant 😂

I agree!❤❤

Ooh yes! ❤️👍

The Anti-LGTBQIAA2S+ Gay Bandwagon Tour!

That was truly an amazing conversation, I'm not being hyperbolic. 2 political opposites, and I agree with every word.

They can call it: We're transphobes but we're smart and funny.

@@myi2433 in what way? And given the dangers of 'trans' ideology why shouldn't ppl be 'transphobic' in that sense ... but calling ppl with whom you disagree names like 'transphobic' or 'TERF; doesn't enlighten anyone - what is your particular issue? If you call me a chicken does that make me a chicken? Please explain how Julie and Douglas's views are harmful or threatening to ppl with gender dysphoria and/or call themselves 'trans'? We/you are entitled to our own views on laws, safeguarding and free speech - even if we inevitably disagree. Sex is binary, 2+2 still equals 4, 'gender' is a religion I do not believe in which you wish to make compulsory, it seems to me. Sorry but I'm an atheist.

@@myi2433 Namecalling is one thing, criticising with rational points is another - if you have no argument than namecalling, you have no argument, sry.

:D

My thoughts exactly!

I would watch every episode!

I would pay to watch that! Despite being on opposite ends of the political spectrum, they both demonstrate how to debate - with insight, evidence and respect.

You might be lonely :(

@@a.nelprober-rl5cf It's possible. Or you might be projecting?

Yes. I'm not a great fan of Julie Bindel in general. But that's not to say that she can't impress me quite often, because she can and does. Here is one of those times. Douglas Murray I'm a great fan of. I respect the fact that despite their differences, they can interact here very amicably.

Mine too! How lovely to see them appreciate each other's humour so much. Brilliant.

Disco gays 😂

Why??? Love is love right??? I really agree with you. Repent and be saved.

Yeah there's a reason why we call them child molesters. It's because the molest kids and quite rightly It's a crime. Next thing we'll be hearing about animal attracted persons.

@@riverdonoghue9992 Right! I said that years ago that satan is bringing up all the sins and making them legal. Actually in some countries it's legal, but it will be in the US soon.

It is purely demonic.

​@@user-cu3xn4xj3iI sorry but are you saying being homosexual and being a peadophile is the same thing.? Because if you you are way way off the mark and out of order. From someone who is homosexual and hates peadophiles with a pssion don't ever put those two groups together and you can save the religious talk while your at it. How dare you. If that is not what your saying as things do get misread on social media what are you saying . I'm interested to know

😂 He wouldn’t be on the BBC, they’d be absolutely terrified that he’d say something sensible !

The only place that would take him would be Fox News! 🙃

Him and Julie make a great team.give them their own show.

@@1978mcduff GB News would probably love to have him. I think he did some stuff for them.

I could listen to him all day...

That is the truth. It's now a very Narcissistic community constantly wanting attention. It used to be about demonstrating for equal rights but now the whole movement has been sabotaged by all the others letters other than LGB. "Pride" celebrations to me, are embarrassing. Blatant displays of nudity and sexuality in public is not my idea of pride, our sexuality should be private. I also have a right to my political opinions without being chastised by the extreme leftist woke mafia.

In short , pride schmide . The White House, to the POTUS's eternal shame and discredit,. has a pride flag hung beween two American flags, and the pride colors in lights across the buiding. And today there was a pride party with dozens of badly dressed creeps and several trannies, cavorting on the WH lawn. The White House lawn! One despairs....

You’re kidding me. He’s nasty, he’s arrogant, he’s actually quite uneducated

I can't not love him!

I thought the same watching him giggle. Lol

The bit about scots who've been out in the sun too long cracked me up. Also Julie saying about being LGBTQ "How can I be all those things at once, I haven't the time"

he is also a gay gentleman! so he knows all about the LGBTs, and the nonsense of the trans

@@dedede9664 yes absolutely

But he can also bring the salt with absolute elegant perfection.

@@tracieh215 absolutely he has an air of Bond villain but the more I listen to him, the more I’m convinced he speaks with conviction and integrity. I’m a lefty on the whole but his arguments are compelling

He is hot.

They are all outcasts from the same group they helped create. Now the monster they brought to life is biting them, they cry out for help and a return to sanity. Karma has a funny way of coming back to you in interesting ways.

he condemns his own homosexuality people, uses zionism and think that polytheists who believe that God transitioned into a man will protect him. This is what awaits you murray once we get authority. Narrated Ibn 'Abbas رضي الله عنهما: That the Messenger of Allah ﷺ said: "Whomever you find doing the actions of the people of (Prophet) Lut (عليه السلام), then kill the one doing it, and the one it is done to." [Sunan at-Tirmidhi » The Book on Legal Punishments (Al-Hudud) » Hadith 1456]

@@Ibn_Abdulaziz You're as delusional as the trans crowd. Why actually do you believe in the hallucinations or fabrications of a Dark Ages thug? Could it be because you've been brainwashed? Try some critical thinking. It's quite rewarding. ("[O]nce we get authority." Dream on, silly man.)

​@@davidparker9676Very well said👍🏼, look what they did to our future, Starfleet has had enough also .kzfaq.info/get/bejne/gNKeZtCaldzKeok.html

Feminism said gender roles were bad. So now some people are going, 'ok, we'll dress as the other gender'. This is what feminists created.

Absolutely true!

Loved his take on boring heterosexuals trying to be 'special.' What happened to becoming notable with hard work and dedication to a cause, or just being a good neighbor, parent or pillar in the community, if you want that kind of attention? But those types of people - the ones actually doing stuff - are not usually narcissists and don't care about the notoriety. Oh the irony.

@@TheMary0831 The left always eats its own.They don't like the outcomes of the movement they started.

Imagine living in a time when just being a straight White male walking down the street with chin up...is enough to trigger and offend the brainwashed satanic liberals.

I think Julie herself would be every bit as likely to say something offensive… it’s just her leftyness showing when she (wrongly) assumes that Douglas might be more likely to say something offensive.

Actually thought that was a fairly vacuous obnoxious comment from her. She seems a perpetual victim with her war stories. Douglas is levels above this.

Sir, that is what she says to every man she disagrees with

@@annarboriter but Douglas shut up. So I guess he needs to get back into training 😉 I love Douglas but she pulled it off.

Women have zero boundaries and limits and society doesnt hold them back from going after children. There are literally 28 year old women who "identify" as gay, trying to shame, humiliate and groom gay boys into having sex with them. Pretty sure AGP's arent allowed to do that, but ok.

Demonizing men and deifying women leads to resentment.

I took to task a government agency for talking about cis and trans middle schoolers. I got attacked for weeks by the alphabet clown car.

*@Stacey A* - Misogyny? Take note, that it's been mainly men and straight men at that, who have been loudly defending women regarding this gender insanity.

​@@MarekzAngliiBut it hasn't. At least not here in Europe

“I’m a bigot who hates all LGBTQ+ people and don’t want them near me”. The problem with Douglas and Julie is that they play to and empower people like you. Hateful

​@@eightiesmusic1984 Why shouldn't someone feel disgust at flags representing perverse sexual behaviour lining their local streets or any sexual behaviour for that matter? Its not something most people want to think about when walking about their local area with their family and possibly young children.

@@FizzVizard a little nuance would be appreciated. Sex is something intimate I honestly don’t want to be reminded of when I do my shopping and see other people with their kids. Everybody does it. You don’t have to be supportive of me loving a man. Leave me alone, I leave you alone. We want neither your company nor your opinion. It mostly worked this way before gender was brought into the mix, pride was commercialized and the education of children was actively used for propaganda confronting them with information that is not age-appropriate, that they can’t understand fully and that parents are understandably angry about. The 🏳️‍🌈-activists are not representing us. Douglas Murray is a prime example why we need to speak out.

Julie is a feminist. She doesn't like men very much

@@DrJams Julie Bindel is an old-school feminist. She may have issues with some men, but at least she has the decency to not assume that all men are universally horrendous. More importantly, unlike many who self-identify as feminists these days, she is actually prepared to engage in uncensored debate. I'm not trying to suggest that you as an individual aren't aware of these distinctions, but others who read your comment may assume that you're trying to lump her in with the man-hating intersectional feminists who get so much media coverage these days.