Yeah it should never cost more than the TLX Type S… people with too much money and too little sense are causing this.

Over price car! not worth it.

My Acura dealer quoted me MSRP vs the Honda dealer quoted me a $15,000 markup.

You can find the type s for msrp.

For $50 grand hell no. 😂

Great analogy.

"like a gentlman".. in a FWD sedan?!😂

Great way to explain it!

@@napraznicul don’t be a hater.

@@napraznicul If you haven't driven one the way they're meant to be driven, you could just say that...

Such a crazy concept yet Honda fanboys swear by their precious front wheel drive type R lol!!

Hyundai?

@@Ahmed___9Hyundai is not a luxury brand.

its the best all around car at its msrp lol simple

@@alengreen589just bc the interior is red doesn’t make it better than EN interior and it’s still slower even with the hp increase I’d pick it over EN tho if it didn’t cost so much bc it does look better.

@@layne4376he can make that statement based on how it feels to drive the car and how it handles.

@@layne4376 I can. And I did u can see it above. I didn’t say I was coming from managing the Triple F Collection. I’m just a regular dude with a slightly varied car history, reiterating what was stated in the video. It’s exceptional.

@@joeblacc8573 Sure, it drives better than the cars you listed there but Is it exceptional compared to an M2 for example? Not IMO.

@@oemj7147 it starts at 64k. That’s significantly higher than this. Clearly im speaking to cars in its price range. However I have driven the previous gen M2 comp and this is visceral on a similar level and has a better manual gearbox. The M2 is a far superior vehicle tho obviously.

@@layne4376 ok I could argue that this is way more compelling than a golf R. It also looks better, has a better sound system, better infotainment system, road presence, sounds better etc. everything isn’t about straight line speed or 0-60 numbers and if u think it is, then the “massive cognitive dissonance” u referenced is your own.

Without a doubt. Sam, your 1 of the best car enthusiasts evaluators on the internet! You communicate points so well, that it seems as if I am right thier amongst you. Keep up the great work. I also want you to know that I appreciate all the drag race comparison segments that you have done. Very professional and very informative they all are.

Couldn't agree more!

I appreciate that!

What type R coming?

Love ya channel i have one to! I love this one the creaks and rattles r getting to me lately 😅

@@user-sx7hf3kr4z yeah I have a couple rattles too. It definitely still has its econo car roots.

@@n-power-automotive I got an oil leak, bad alignment countless other issues after a 5mph fender bender did not hold up to well sadly

It looks so good but it's definitely missing some things

I heard a sunroof will LIKELY be an option after the initial run. It's an Acura Type S, ALL other Type S have a sunroof.

@@williamlevy1981 that is really good to hear!! Once the hype has dropped down a bit and if they can make a couple changes I may want one...

@gooniac33 Buy the refresh model after 2026. THAT will likely be the last of its kind, NOT these current Civic Type R and Integra Type S. Thank DELUSIONAL California politicians for this and corporate Honda for not defending themselves with BALLS.

@@williamlevy1981 i love the look of the type R but the practicality of the type S!! And the way that they made the acura more torquey mid range too! We shall see though.... my last acura was a 1998 GS-RL 4 door and I loved that car! Been a mazda guy ever since then but this new turbo motor has me interested again! Acura has gone back to their roots and I am loving it!

I wouldn't doubt it if Acura doesn't add a moonroof to the Integra Type S. And I suspect the reason for this is because of the torque deliver. Possibly would easily twist the chassis would that kind of output. And think about it: when was the last time you've saw a Mustang GT or Camaro ZL-1 with a moonroof? I don't think that option is available for those higher end models of each respective vehicle. Probably the same for Challenger equipped with a Mopar 392 V-8 too. A convertible is a totally different. They come re-enforced with a stiffer chassis to compensate for lack of a solid roof, of which is part of the chassis. It could be the reason why You never see a Corvette with just a moonroof. They however, do have Targa tops.

These start around $59,000 no??

I'm assuming he's adding taxes and dealer fees

@@jos1515 my comment is based off autotrader they had a demo it cost 71,000+ taxes which would be closer to 90k 😂

I am 61 and have that same car with a Manual Transmission, love it! But I think I may upgrade to this bad boy.

@@brianco12 A lot of people upgrade these cars. Funny how many "old guys" are driving these. That is because we learned stick as kids! My hair is the same color as my car; chalk white. People give me the strangest looks when I blow by them illegally with my exhaust open. I love it.

@@arthurmroyceus old guys are the true car guys. We’ve been raising hell on the streets for decades, from muscle cars with raw power, bald tires, and bad brakes.

@@ryanb8736 the funny thing is I have almost totally white hair. I turned early. People see me whizzing by with my exhaust open expecting a kid. Nope.

@@arthurmroyce Haha. I’m 51 and all white. I have a tuned RS3 doing launch controls racing kids. I love getting pulled over cause it makes me feel like a young punk. Cops laugh.

Congratulations

I had an RS3 on order since summer 2022 and told maybe 2025 before I’d get an allocation. I reconsidered myself, checked priorities, checked the competition and ended up with the ITS. It’ll be here next month.

As someone who has a ttrs and works and built multiple type rs. I'd wait 5 years for a rs3 if needed over getting this. It's not a bad car but it's just not comparable.

@@germanengineering204 just put it this way. You have one of these. Hybrid turbo tune all the bolt ONS. 10k easy. And a bone stock rs3 with just a reflash will just eliminate it. Roll or dig. Along with better interior. The thing is if the type r or type s was you know 30-35k that's one things. But with all the mark ups to were it's 50+. Gotta go with the rs3 I paid 61k for my ttrs with 6000 original miles back in 2020. And I never regreted it one bit. I had a 10th gen SI as well before as a shop car and it was just a pile of shit compared to older hondas mechanical wise. Good luck

@@Alexbuilt Thank you!! Only other car I'm considering as a back up plan is a manual CT4 Blackwing! Cost about the same, but very different driving experience.

@@germanengineering204 thats a nice car as well. I just have quality control trust issues with gm since my 2020 Silverado didn't make it to 10k miles lol.

type r is better bang for buck

3200 is a pig by any standard. Today's cars are too big

@@rcmodder my car weighs around 3400 and it has a inline 6 integra is 4 cyl with barely horsepower pol

@@rcmodder😂😂😂??? Compared to what a soda can??

@@thecamdenyard If you think 3200lbs is light, then your input is not needed

That’s an honour! Love the movie love Waltz

the Civic Type R (which this Integra is based on) matched the M2 Competition's track time.

@@TheBreakfastLoverM240 XDrive (G42) is faster in every measurable variable.

@@KP-xi4bjthe Civic Type R (FL5) ran a faster track time than the M240i (G42) at Anneau du Rhine and Eurospeedway Lausitz. The Honda beat the BMW by 0.07 seconds at Rhin and by 0.57 seconds at Lausits.

@@TheBreakfastLoverWhat about Hockenheim GP, Autozeitung test track or Contidrom (3.3 km)? What about every day use? M240 XDrive destroys the FL5 Type R with 0 to 60 mph in 3.6 seconds and the 1/4 mile in 12.1 seconds at 114.0 mph. What about in snowy conditions? Again, M240 XDrive destroys the FL5 Type R.

@@KP-xi4bj lol, now you're moving the goal posts by adding arbitrary qualifiers. You made a claim: "faster in every measurable variable" and I (easily) refuted that claim by citing two sources where the Type R posted faster lap times than the Bimmer.

A more settled car non performance

@@SamCarLegion Understood Sir. I’m keeping my low mileage TSX 6MT for daily duty and my wife has an Odyssey Elite for hauling around our teen athletes and gear. Looking for a dual natured semi-toy...

He has a kid now, more expenses. He needs to think about that and no more m3s m4s, ctv 4vs, etc with their higher maintenance and monthly leasing/financing costs :(

Hmm if you drive this into corners and twisty roads you might be shocked that it’s FWD. Acura/Honda has done incredible engineering with this car. Try it and you’ll know what we mean

Yes that shot at 4:15 is amazing. It is definitely a good looking car, even in non-Type-S form. I wish the non-Type-S didn't have a CVT as the automatic transmission option.

It is perfect

They should just make the tlx a manual. That’d be sick

🤣 I want that race also. I doubt American Honda would be comfortable knowing that race is on social media and widely seen.

I have an ITS. Seated in many CTRs. If you ask me, I prefer the CTR seats support. They hug you.

Type R seats are more snug and track suited. The Type S seats are more soft and better for road trips.

Welcome aboard!

TLX is an amazing car if you are not into tuning, trying to get more power. If you just want to keep stock, that car drives amazing.

If they sell all of them at 65k, then market says it’s worth 65k all day. Not 35k.

Sam???

They still sell it for more money though.

DarkHorse. I canceled the order - Mach 1 is better deal

My dealer said that each Acura outlet in Canada will get two. He has one in the showroom that is sold and one yet to be delivered - also sold. He would take a deposit and put me on his wait list,

I know, right?

Seiko Limited Edition

Thanks, looks good.@@SamCarLegion

Yep

Tough one man! Comes down to taste and cash

@@SamCarLegionI don't like my BW rear look. If I have to find something I don't like about the car, the V6 is also slightly behind the Merc and BMW. Other than that, the car is perfect. You have driven both cars. Just in terms of fun, luxury and daily drivblity, what's your personal pick and why? I won't have a chance to test drive a Type S like you do

3k markup isn’t bad dude! What dealer if you don’t mind me asking?

@@user-sx7hf3kr4z 3K mark up+must trade in+must finance at 8% or lease. You cannot buy it out right. Location is Richmond Auto Mall

I bought a daily :(

@@SamCarLegion oh shoot. Too late to break the deal???

All prices increase over time. Apple keeps prices the same for many, many years before increasing. A lot of people thought Apple would increase the price last year because of inflation but didn't. It's not possible to keep prices the same if they keep adding more and more costly components. Absolutely, if you don't need or want the latest features then don't upgrade. or if it's already been a few years then get the less expensive one instead of the Pro model. Only the Pro models are rumored for price increases.

If someone is willing to pay over and they all sell out, a boycott is useless. A suggested retail price is the S in mSrp. It’s not fixed. It’s suggested by manufacturers. A dealer can do what they want. Do you know how many called dealers and said they will pay 10k more just to get the car? More than the amount of cars were built. Don’t be mad at dealer. Be mad at people paying extra. Their money is overpowering you. You are mad, so now you want to punish the dealer for accepting more money. It’s business. If you owned the business and had only a small limited run of cars and people wanted to pay extra, you would not say no. You would also sell for more. Especially in today’s highest inflation with overhead at highest levels ever. Dealers need that extra money to break even.

That too

none of those cars would be daily-able with a new born, rear facing child seat & stroller

Hmm dealers in other states sold the Integra type S for MSRP. California is a bit of a unique situation with ridiculous markups

Them wheels locks probably a good investment depending where u live, my civic didn’t and I hadda buy new rims and tires 😂

At $75k I rather buy a used Porsche 😅

@@ss5153bingo

Never

Disagree for this car

@@layne4376 90 plus % of all Acura/Hondas will get over 200k out of them without any major engine or transmission problems! Show me a BMW, Mercedes or Audi that average that? The type-r is a niche car not a standard Honda Or Acura! Nice try! Lol

And I'm speaking from experience because I've owned three Acuras, two Hondas, two BMW's and a Mercedes!

@@layne4376 every car manufacturer have certain problems that plague a percentage of their vehicles, but on the whole, no vehicle on the market today short of Toyota have lasted as long as Hondas have and continue to last as long! So what auto manufacturer on the whole do you think last as long as Toyota or Honda? This is going to be fun!

I agree with the "tacked on fender look". It looks like a modified car from the 80's and I'm a bit disappointed with that.

Pissed off* 😆

@roger3958 "roger, Roger." 🤦‍♂️

haha what state are you in?

I’m not necessarily anti-EV but to me there’s more to driving than just going fast. It’s the looks, the sound, the dynamics and engagement. Which this car seems perfect to me and is why I ordered one. If all you care about is a quiet nice ride and going fast while also not having to spend much money then an EV makes sense. I also don’t have the infrastructure near me to even consider EV yet, yes you can charge at home but I also have a fairly long commute to work and no place with a fast charger within 100km of me so if I ever ran out of battery I’d be stuck.

@@tyhyhh Illinois

Neither the tesla or your tuned accord are as agile as the ITS currently is. Drive one and take some turns quick and you will realize why people praise this platform so much.

You should test drive an Alfa Romeo Giulia. They have pretty good deals on 2022s and 2023s.