Pls bring the Integra 2022. It's slow and more expensive than the Elantra N. I wanna see this comparison so bad!

@@TonyCrispruby it is but it definitely made for a photogenic race

Just wish it was a 2.0 supra 😭

The fact he cant launch a 4wd car is even more impressive🤣

white? the most common color...

I don’t understand what you say… i live in Qc and i saw these 3 car every day !!

Unlike with VW's who need a ricer tune to keep up, I tried to roll race a Supra and that BMW is no joke! As much as we love to hate the Supra being a BMW, it hauls ass!

@@jdavidblais 2022 Golf R? I don't believe you.

@@Sie84yv The ironic part is that we hate on a Toyota for having the inline heart of a BMW. It is not like we have a 7 series with an old Corolla's 1.8 liter. I always remind myself that without the BMW heart, there would be no Supra, rare as they might be.

@@jdavidblais he is saying the Golf R - I have seen only 1 so far in Toronto

Unlike with VW's who need a ricer tune to keep up, I tried to roll race a Supra and that BMW is no joke! As much as we love to hate the Supra being a BMW, it really hauls ass!

Do you drive it during winters ?

@@whosdondada Yes, I live in Florida so I can because it doesn’t snow

@@Sie84yv your Korean car will need much more of a Ricer tune to keep up with any car than any VW. Stop hating on VW every chance you get because it’s the better brand than yours

@@glistud8178Yes, VW is much better at selling higher priced GTI's that cannot compete in performance, infotainment, free maintenance, or warranty to Hyundai, you win!

@@abelalba3111 🤡

Yea because extra weight is a good

Until you remember its a Kia and they break every second not to mention fixing them yourself is a headache and going to a dealership is a pocket ache. Each to their own though

@@TheRayjay62They actually have a 7 year factory warranty in Australia, which is about the longest of any brand here.

@@TheRayjay62 then you remember they come with a 10 year warranty plan and they actually don't break down like people say and they are almost as reliable as hondas💀

poor twin turbo v6 getting destroyed by a 2.0t LOL

@@AD-sp5cv dual clutch + light weight, it’d probably also pull on a V8. No need to compare the two cuz they are not in the same segment

If last gen is anything to point to, 360 AWHP on a "Stage 1" with nothing but a tune, and over 450 on e85 with intercooler/DP and maybe fueling

Im very excited for whenever this happens

@@Austin-ou2kf Emphasis on maybe, the Evo4 has higher capacity for fueling. Its almost like some engineers at VAG are keeping an eye on us.

VW could have gone with a six but that would have made it even more expensive, and buyers are already complaining about the price. In order to get the higher Hp 5 cylinder, you need to move up to the Audi RS-3 for 400/500 hp/torque.

Yea but it's also at the price tag of the v6

Next Audi RS3 or a Tune up Mk8 Golf R stage 1 vs Supra

With a BMW motor.

bmw supra

honestly, they must be underreporting the hp numbers. The math ain't mathing and I own a stinger.

@@chancemcclendon3906 BMW is known for reporting WHP figures as BHP but regardless the Supra is 700lbs lighter than the Stinger, in terms of speed that’s about 1/10sec per 100lbs and 10hp, the Supra has 20hp more and 700lbs less so it should theoretically be 9/10sec (0.9) faster, each tenth equates to 1 car lengths and by the looks of it… the Supra accurately put buses on the Stinger given the math

Add one or two aftermarket upgrades to the stinger it's over trust me. It's underpowered because of the warranty it offers it can be modified for true speed.

@@jameelparrish741 you could add one or 2 upgrades for any of the cars here and get a lot of performance

@@jameelparrish741 I think you shouldn't underestimate the gains the B58 gets in the Supra, it keeps it together at close to 700WHP with stock internals.

They should have use Audi RS3 or a Tune up MK8 Golf R stage 1 it will keep up with the Supra

​@@joshuapounds7646 What is a sense of your comment?

And Kia makes no bones about the fact that the Stinger is, in fact, a GT car. It's not a sports car. But you get great performance along with a beautiful, comfortable interior and a lot of practical space.

Very true. I'm looking at a new Supra, but it will be a second weekend/summer car only (Daily driver is a 2013 Tacoma TRD) I don't think the Supra is a daily driver. Where the Stinger is plenty fast, can carry four people comfortably, and looks cool.

100%

Still a Kia

@@ffrnando4388 🤡

@@HD_Kerino did I hurt your feelings too little snowflake? 😮‍💨😮‍💨 Free smoke over here for anyone who wants it 🔥🔥

@@ffrnando4388 Get out of here troll 🤣

@@ffrnando4388 The famous words of someone who lost to a stinger lol

Now even for 45k you need to wait almost 2 years, used ones now about 65k...

So can an AWD Stinger.

My exact thoughts..👍

@@Alex-ls6wl 😲.... DAMN

Twisty roads? Hmm, it has a bunch of electronic nannies that will cut power like crazy when there’s a sliver of possible slippage, and they can’t be turned off completely.

😂😂😂

For aero. Gotta have that teardrop shape

Full Tilt should be his new nickname

and they didn't know that of course

For a practical awd hatch it's pretty unmatched. No surprises that it gets beaten by the supra though, considering that's an impractical purpose built sports car

They tuned it down a lot. Base map on a piggyback adds ~70whp. Not sure why they did it

@@StealthyCreations gotta be able to offer that 25 year warranty

It’s actually Detuned alot for the warranty.

The RWD stinger GT does much better, trust me.

There’s a lot for sale that is just bolt ons, turbos included, with no internal changes that makes 600 plus to the wheels. Stock transmission as well. So the drive change can take it much like the Supra

Hope your enjoying the supra bro, as for me still enjoying the stinger gt💪🏻

Good choice! 😅

I own a 2016 Golf R with stage 1 and upgraded intake. I 😍😍 it so much. I'd love to see what a 2022 version would do!!!

This what I was thinking, willing to bet it would keep up with the supra no problem

@@2ZH And then you tune the Supra

@@Javaris-Jamar-Javarison-Lamar haha yeah this is true. Still impressive for a four cylinder to be hanging with six cylinders

stage 1 on the R from Unitronic which is typically a conservative tune, makes an extra 130hp at the crank w/ just the software with no added parts. Crazy what a tune gives you.

Decent. It did get taken down by a car with 2 less cylinders and 1.3L less displacement though.

@@rodgazinya ~800lbs difference at only ~60ft/lbs torque difference. I'd say a little more than decent.

@@ahkenaden a lot of people are pretty bad at math these days..

Toyota always fuck Korea , bro

It barely hung with a 4cylinder 😂 & got murdered by the supra idk how it “held its own” 😂

Literally almost a thousand pounds more then the Supra

U said exactly what I have to say!

Sure it's heavier, but the Golf is a 4 door as well.

golf r is 4 doors

The stinger is twin turbo v6. It’s a disappointment in my opinion considering the golf R is a 4 cylinder. The true performer is the golf.

It did win the 2nd dig very close. I agree, traditional lc controller on stinger is doodoo.

The stringer makes more boost on launch than the R. You can see it in the logs when doing a pull (and of course logging it). You can see it in jb4 logs and logs sent to various tuners. The stinger (like most tq converters) allow the engine to be under load and build up boost that way. The Golf R still builds boost, but you have to learn the car and know how to launch it to get the most out of it. That’s why I say that driving some autos or dct’s requires some knowledge or skill to extract the most out of it. Most people are not aware of this

@@PapiAndrey lol the stinger LC builds zero boost it’s a fake LC. Everyone with a stinger/g70 knows this. That’s why the literally make boosted launch switches for the stinger or people do the parking brake launch.

Yeah no, unless youre lozic/lap3 tuned.. you aint making no boost with tradition lc. Stock brake boosting is much more effective and countless vids to prove it.

@@SSH939 the Stinger only won the 2nd race because of the early head start. Considering the Stinger is supposed to be the "performance value" option, it ought to have handily beat the Golf R from a dig (which is $6k cheaper than the Kia). But I do agree, the Stinger's launch control is among the worst in the industry.

They launch very easily dude ive yet to see one struggle for grip from a dig

@@stefanfreestylez I’ve seen the opposite. Plenty of grip but massive bogging and the cars tend to shift early into second in the autos

Yeah, the one with as many doors😅

It's not because the V6 it's the weight/hp ratio lighter car with more hp is the faster.. respect to stinger

@@Mund333M absolutely!!

Keeping up???😂 wtf race did u watch?. It got murdered by BUS 🚌 lengths by the supra

If that awd one really weighs that much more then yours then your rwd would probably be faster on dig and roll as long as your traction is good and doesn't slip. It would be interesting to see those results though.

RWD will be faster in all but adverse conditions.

Pretty sure the awd would win from a dig. Traction would be an issue for the rwd model from a dig.

@@christopherbrant2667 actually I had the rwd version of the stinger gt2, it didn't spin at all from launching, when I put the jb4 on it then it did

@@jakeatkinson901 pretty sure in all testings done the AWD has the better 0-60, it may perform slightly worse longer distance when the same HP with more weight matters more but the additional traction makes it better 0-60

Not more practical than a golf 🤷🏻‍♂️

@@jacobvanderhooft2188 Likely much more reliable though. My MKVII R was nothing but problems which is why I dumped it with less than 40k miles.

@@jacobvanderhooft2188 it is more practical coz it's a sedan its also more roomy from inside it has more boot space then the golf

Of you can get an xdrive M340. Faster than all of them, bmw build, and still 4 days and not too expensive

Agree

Dude you never have apple to Apple races. The Stinger weights 800lbs or more than both the other vehicles.

The stinger has 50+ hp over the Golf and more than 50% additional displacement.

@@9.peanut 50hp doesn’t offset the 800lb weight difference as well as the transmission.

It barely hung against the 4cylinder R 😂 & got murdered by the supra 😂 idk how it “hold its own”

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Must of left the “beast mode” at home 😂 got smoked by the supra, barely beat a 300hp car

@@fel1xxfel1xx60 weights almost 1000lbs more silly goose. What tf you expect?

@Bry Zeer Go ahead and send me a link to any evidence of that. I've already seen a couple of comparisons. Supra wins every performance metric. 😏

@@MizzouRah78 not too surprising to see German power crush attempts from Nissan

@Bry Zeer. I see he has deleted his prior comment because he found out I was right. 🤣

Seemed to work on my moped...instead of 25 mph it was 28 mph! If you laid on the tank like superman you might hit 30.

Hahaha it's a motorcycle thing

Haha the way sam leaning forward make him look like a grandpa driving and trying to focus on his way haha

Did you get the V6 Supra? Is it faster? I ran a Supra with my RWD Stinger GT and killed it on a 40 roll and a dig. The guy said he had the V6 Supra but after those runs there was no way he was right.

@@shortcake1025 no, I got The 340i Msport Performance.

True but it's often compensated by low reliability. Especially turbo engines in these days.

@@Runemonk Probably you are right. Almost all 4cyl turbo engines tuned for high output, are kinda “fragile”.

it's not almost 1K heavier.. you don't know basic math, don't round up numbers that aren't close enough, it shows you;re compensating

@@roboticvenom1935 Stinger: 4.1k Supra: ~3.4. We can play it safe and say 800 pound difference. Don't get your panties in a bunch mathematician dickhead

@@roboticvenom1935 770 vs the Supra nad 810 vs the R. You're over-reaching, his point is valid, the car is heavier and it performs relatively well. Only Stinger haters wouldn't "get" what he's trying to say lol.

@@roboticvenom1935 you sound mad.

@@DarioDAversa exactly my point...

It’s super right?

Tons of space in the hatch of the golf though, I was in the market for a stinger but ended up paying 10K less for a 7.5R over a same year/milage Stinger.

Should toyota GR Corolla or yaris not supra to be compared 🙄

@@kribisami508 I didn't make the video, ask them... 🙄

Lol

@@kribisami508 with that same logic the stinger shouldn't be there either ......... and well then i guess the video

@@kribisami508 They’re not there because neither is available in the U.S?????

Good point

The Supra is awesome but it’s not a daily. Sure some people do, but it’s too low and too small. I really love them but I can’t afford 2 cars for myself

The 3.3tt is underrated. If the golf r is putting out 350+hp and weighs 800lbs less then stinger which supposedly makes 365hp and still loses then it’s def not making close to 350hp or the stinger makes 400+.

That's what the G70 is for. Same car, but 200-300 pounds lighter

Larger car with a hatch, of course it's heavier than an S4, It's in S5 territory and it's spot on for weight with that as well... The GT2 with AWD is the heaviest one because it has the most features and AWD, a RWD GT2 is under 3900lbs.

Get the RWD stinger it's lighter and faster on Roll

Needs a DCT

idk why you would want a car that everyone and their grandma has and its the most popular car in the world.

@@fs5866 it's popular for a reason, and where I live everyone and their mom has a mustang, so golfs are a bit more unique in that way

Why? It also have 1000 pounds less weight.

@@SlipAngleG70 That just adds to the fact that I like it more. It's lighter.

@@breakingcycles741 The golf is a nice car. Practical, quick. I have a G70. It's great.

Md gang. Tbh i thought these guys were Canadians

@@SuchFinessse we are

Maybe you can TELL those M.D dealership to QUIT raping US over the MARKUP 😄

@@3for4PA big facts lol. It's ridiculous. 64k for a new R. Hell no on that

@@bradfoster8146 I want a R too....but when I LOOKED at the STICKER I was LIKE 😲DAMN !!!

The R has over 350PS actual. 100whp over the R? What are you smoking?

And the Supra has around 450. There is at least 80 WHP differnce

@@glistud8178 B58 is rated at 382hp at the crank.

@@magi115 BMW most definitely underrates the HP of the B58. 382 is probably more like 420ish

I was EMBARASSED for the stinger. A v6 twin turbo Cant beat a single turbo 2.0. The GOLF R was out of its leauge and still prefromed amazing

@@glistud8178 ??? You understand how Power:Weight works? lol

You buy cars to become a moving company? Lmao

i think the kia It looks so ugly to turn heads. It's just a Kia with a turbo. In fact, Kia borrowed the transmission from BMW and some other stuff from germany However, it still did not win compared to a four-cylinder car, with a difference of 40 hp more in the Kia. I find the comparison fair. The Kia with a 6-cylinder car has about 40 hp more than the Golf. This compensates for the lost weight in the Golf R.

The Supra is probably a closer match to the GT4 than a regular Cayman

@@Skyv1per Not in price

would smoke it, cayman is a completely overrated vehicle, so is the porsche 911 normal mode for 105k

@@roboticvenom1935 it’s a Porsche. Everything is perfect. Law of diminishing returns and economies of scale. It becomes increasing more expensive to make something better and low volume makes something cost even more. Porsche are on another level with attention to detail.

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That’s the comment I would like to read while having my morning espresso. Have a great day

I thought the exact same thing. Very interesting race between the R and the Stinger.

Supra pulls ahead in between and in the end for the roll races

BMW b58

What? There's no bmw? lol

@@sircefiro the supra is a BMW.

@@donbaird3826 lol come on man

Same man! Seems like the Golf R has a better low end but an equal top end with the Stinger.

Yeah and having less hp and a smaller engine....golf r hands down the real winner in this video.

Yeahhh I was about to say, I’m more impressed with the fact that the Golf R can keep up with the Stinger despite that it’s a 4 cyl that makes less HP LOL

Golf R's are renowned for their brutal 0-60 times. They are also very underrated from the factory, making way more than the advertised 320hp (typical German).

@@Darkshine369 and a tuned Golf R will murder a tuned Stinger. There's not a Stinger on the planet that can keep up with my 2016 R and my car isn't even in the top 100 fastest R's.

I'm a stinger GT owner and the only thing stopping me from getting a supra is the size (I'm over 6 ft tall) and the practicality as a daily since I don't have space for another car. I wish they had better launches too. It would be such an unfair race of it got off the line better. Love these new supras so much

@@StealthyCreations what about the BMW 340i in a 4 door? Has the same engine in it I believe?

@@HK.Builds My stinger is tuned and pretty quick in comparison to a 340i. Cool cars, but not my cup of tea. If I continue on the 4-door route then I'm thinking of the RS3 or a M3

@@StealthyCreations fair enough and always good to be different and curveball. I was going to say Lexus ISF too but that's a whole other ballgame and very limited tuning potential on those NA V8s

@@HK.Builds I am right behind you with the ISF. They sound great and are so solid all around, but def lacking in the tuning department.

It would’ve sounded better had it been in sport mode 🫠

I love that stinger!

@@Momospeare i just raced an RS3 and he was 1/2 a car in front of me because we didn't used launch control. I've been asking Sam to try it no launch control.

@@avis1978 Ioved my stinger GTS they need to put it on a diet and it would just destroy even more then it does for 10k+less compared to there competitors

Lol a 3.3L twin turbo v6 barely pulled on a 2.0 4cyl single turbo....the real winner by far the golf r

@@InfoumusMOBB unfortunately they will discontinue it from next year. It takes an S5 that cost here in 🇨🇦 30k$ more after tax. For me that's the biggest win. The stinger is the best value for 💰 GT car, hands down.

BMW 6cyl is a beast