The odd one out is the class 66

Hi Sam, please don't get this confused with the Lima 92. Both Lima and Hornby released the 92 at the same time and when Hornby bought Lima their 92 was not re released, the Hornby version prevailed. The Lima version had a detail pack including brake pipes Horns and roof details. Also you had a choice of tension lock or a buffer beam skirt in the kit. It didn't have lights but it has 2 better pantographs. If you wish to do a video comparing the 2. I would be happy to loan you my Lima 92 for you to review and compare just get in touch with me.

Great Video, A very fair review. I have this loco and runs relatively well in one direction after a week one end stopped working and so i'm left with a faulty loco.

Really looking forward to a comparison video between this and the Accurascale Class 92 - also I'd really like to see you compare the new tooled Hornby HAA MGR coal hoppers with the newly released Accurascale ones - they are priced very similarly with the Hornby ones being the slightly more expensive so really interested to see how they stack up next to each other!! Thanks Sam 👍🏻

Hey Sam. Ever thought of reviewing an Auscision Models product? They're an Australian company that make very detailed locomotives and I would recommend.

A review I jumped on as soon as I saw it. The 92 is definitely my favourite electric and potentially my favourite loco full stop. Watching this brought home just how much the 00 world needs the Accurascale version, there is no way this loco should be represented in 00 by this toy! £100 was dubious until I saw the insides / mechanism, then it is awful! Back in 1995 when Lima did their normal trick of getting the model out almost before the real thing, it’s fine. Now it’s a car boot find with a slightly updated livery! That might sound harsh but I do love the real thing and all three of my N gauge versions are special. Great review as always though.

I picked up one of these about a year and a half ago for about mid 70 odd pounds. I do remember being pretty happy with it then, despite the age of the tooling and even getting it out for the first time in quite a spell, while watching this review, still pretty happy with it (even though I was surprised by how light it is). It's not an amazing model by any stretch, but for less than £80 it's decent. I do have one of the Accurascale 92s on pre order, so it'll be interesting to see what differences there are between them. Cheers

Good evening Sam's train even as I thought for the reviewed is the class 066 literally you had anything the models railway good job buddy!!

Nice review thanks. I have this loco and for the money im more than happy with it.

Awesome video today Sam beautiful modle might have to get one

Hi Sam, what an odd model! I recall seeing these around Clapham Jn in the 90s. Usually sneaking along under my train on a freight. As to your odd one out, has to be either the class 66 or the 73 which is of course diesel or electric :)

Ah yes I remember Hornbys overhead pick up system. As time went on I think they moved away from that since there isn't really anything that can pick up overhead these days. I'm pretty sure earlier versions of this Class 92 in the main range (as well as a few other electric locos) would have had Metal Pantographs when that system was more popular, though the trainset versions only had plastic pantographs if I remember right. However it's still shocking they write that when they don't pay any mind to that system now when nothing they have in recent memory is designed for it. It does look surprisingly decent after all this time. Would be interesting to see what it looks like versus the Accurascale Class 92. I imagine the Accurascale Class 92 would be superior overall but still impressive. Though one old Hornby model that really does surprise me after all this time is their original HST 125 models . The newer HSTs are better in performance and looks but surprisingly the original HST still holds out rather well in looks; especially if someone opted to add more detail.

It’s worth mentioning that Accurascale are tooling up for a Class 92. In fact 92023 Ravell is available to preorder at Rails of Sheffield for £189. Whilst I appreciate that’s double the price of this Hornby release of Limas old tooling; it’s probably twice the locomotive too. If you can’t justify the Accurascale; buy the old Lima or Hornby re-release second hand. But to fork out £92 for this - poor value for money. I feel Hornby is guilty of ripping off the customer with less than premium money to spend with this locomotive. Thank you once again Sam, for spending the money so I don’t have to!!

The odd one out is the Malcolm wrap Class 66 from your review you posted on September 29, 2021. I feel like this loco could've been a from a Hot Wheels train set I used to play with as a kid. Still liked the loco though.

Well that was a very fair review Sam. Nice one.

I picked one up in GBrf livery from Hattons for £59 and will look to add some more details. It should be a Railroad range item . I also have an Accurascale 92 on order. Cheers Kev

So pleased I have a Lima one. Interestingly, an SNCF one in grey and blue. I think the side grills are actually better executed. It has metal pantographs. Only draw back, it's got the Lima noise.

Decent review there Sam I think this is your first review of an AC electric from the UK, I personally have an accurascale one on pre order at the moment and while it has features on it that I won’t be able to use due to still being a dc user i can personally live without those for now and im sure one day I will try dcc.

I had the DB Schenker livery version of this which was a decent model but I recently sold it as I’m planning to get the new Accurascale version.

Hi sam I have the gbrf version this paid 60 euros which is around fifty pounds happy enough with it cheap and cheerful definitely not worth 100 pounds great review 👍

Nice review! Can you do a review of an athearn Genesis or ready to roll engine please?

Lovely Video Lord Warwell! And also thank you for inspiring me to try my hand in KZfaq!

Yes do try the accurascale one Sam

i seen the class 92 video by intercity82 from around 2009 and it has the overhead but it been discontinued by that point so i think why it was included was due to it being in the 1995 drawing for it

i been on the caledonian sleeper before back in April, and accurascale is releasing the caledonian sleeper MK5s

Next thing you know they'll be going back to putting motors back into the tenders of steam locos

Hi Sam I've still got one from lima and there is not many difference the winder wipers are new and the electric rail detal is new but and a big BUT mine as more lights and buffer beam detail and metal pantograph

You mentioned about dcc running may differ. I have an idea, as an improvement and since you have the tech there as an additional segment add a decoder and test. It would be nice to see a comparison. Any thoughts on making a more permanent layout thats not on carpet?

Hi Sam do you know of any well priced good tender engines love the vid!!!

Lovely, I have a GBRf liveried version!

Nice review. This locomotive looks like a slightly nicer version of what the Hornby Class 66 was.

Thank you for sharing, think I will wait for the Accurascale 92. Cannot understand how Hornby can produce the class 50 and 60 (no traction tyres, all wheel drive) yet still continuing to market and sell locos like this. This should be Railroad along with the 66 at best

I have a number of these and a couple of Accurascale 92s on order. The "Limby" 92's are simple, robust and easy to repair if necessary. I bet the Accuascale locos will have a lot of fragile detail but will overall be of a higher decorative quality. If they have a good mechanism they will be great but the cost difference is simply huge. So a "Limby" 92 may be a good choice for those on a budget and/or for those who like to work on improving their locos. I agree its a Railroad model at heart though the directional lights take it a step above.

I would agree that this is really a Rail Road locomotive.

I am typing this before I have seen your full review. I have to say they are a good buy at that price. I would recommend detailing one end and it really raises it. Yeah they are light but for that price and you can get others for that price they are ok. You have to bear in mind that the next step up is £100 more for most other diesels.

Looks like Hornby took the Class 90 instruction sheet and just changed the title and got it completely wrong with describing the loco as a diesel electric. The Class 90 has a working metal pantograph. This Class 92 should definitely should be in the Railroad range. Great video Sam 👍

This is a brilliant review

Great video! I'm so glad you did this review, I was close to buying this for £110 from a local shop, I'm glad I didn't now. Can you please do a review of the Hornby class 800s, such as the one in the LNER livery? For £500 I want to know I'm going to be getting good value for money 😬

Hi Sam, it appears on the overhead pantograph instructions, it features a BR class 90 which explains why it’s a Bo-Bo locomotive shown

Great review as always Sam,for the price you got it's ok.I think its got the same sort of motor set as my Hornby class 66.I don't understand why Hornby have made it so hard to get at the motor to service it?

@Sam’sTrains After watching many videos on model locomotive reviews and tons of research, I think, as a hobbyist, what-if paint schemes should be present in Hornby model locomotive products. It brings a different feeling when it is painted in a different livery. I imagine the Hornby Class 92 will have an InterCity Swallow livery in the future.

Nice, Caledonian Sleeper livery. I'm going to be on the Caledonian Sleeper on the 15th July

Was that a class 86 bo bo in an intercity livery, i have one in a br blue livery called pheonex and its the first and only diesel i have but it runs terribly i bought it second hand and have not been able to get it to work properly do have any tips on how to treat it. Btw love your videos sam.

As has already been said in the comments, this was never a Lima model, this one is Hornby through and through, however Lima did release their own 92. Would be good to compare the two though.

Sam I have a Bachman hall class hogwarts express and the hole thing is made out of metal and the tender as well and you can get one from the Bradford exchange

Sam, have you ever thought of reviewing a Hornby Dublo train set? No particular one but it would be cool to see you review an old train set Keep up the good work Best regard, Calen

Last time I saw that instruction manual it was on a class 90 locomotive that I had 30 years ago! XD

Looking forward to the Accurascale class 92.

All I can say is Class 66 flashbacks 😅 I mean yes the there are lights which is a big bonus but good god the weight superglued and wire management looks like something I would improvise as a non professional modeler definitely not a "professional" manufacturer. Quite disappointed especially considering it's in the railway range. Also your sarcastic jokes made my day quite nice to watch when I was eating my noodles alongside. Although it's a pretty meh loco it's still a great review, Sam 👍

Thanks for the video, Sam. The instructions look like the ones for the class 90. It's is pretty slapdash isn't it?

Have you ever tried the class 87 from Hornby? I think that one is quite good.

Great Work

I run dcc and I placed a bachmann chip into it and it don't move till speed step 22 on the nce power cab controller is that to do with the mechanism?

Thanks Sam for reviewing an electric locomotive for a change. Please review more. Meanwhile, perhaps this unit could be improved somewhat if some weights were added.

I think that with the soon arrival of Accurascale's super detail class 92, the only way that Hornby can make this profitable is to try and compete with them or relegate it to the railroad range. I dont think that Hornby sould compete as it is clear that Accurascale have put alot of effort into there new model and it would be cruel to take that away from them. P.S. Great an useful vid :)

Hey sam, I have recently bought a Hornby thomas with a factory weathered look it looks to be never run!, however the pinion gear was comnpletley stripped yet eveything else had zero wear on it. I replaced the pinion gear from a class 08 with the same chassis. But upon testing it the conrods don't move the way they should, they are timed correctly and only the main drive wheel wants to move and the other 2 sets arent fussed for moving however they feel free enough. Any help or tips? Thanks -George

The picture on the box is probably the prototype and hope for the future. I agree with you about the traction tires, but it's no Lima and although Lima did issue one, so did Hornby which wasn't as good and was $100 even back then, so the same price for the same exact model. Hornby is the UK's version of the US company Lionel and although I know both produced quality products in the past, neither one is a good purchase anymore because both have lost sight of their stated goal of delivering the best quality for the least money.

Had a good laugh at this being in the same branding as that new A1

Those square looking wheel flanges look similar to the ones on a Hornby class 73, and they wont run smoothly on code 75 track - Warning! Do you know how to re-wheel this or the class 73? Regards Andrew

Very good review. You give praise where it is due and criticism where appropriate. Glad to see you review a less expensive loco. I do enjoy your reviews. Thanks.

I am hoping to find one of these locos. I have been planning a modern image layout of Sheffield and maybe Doncaster and I think it will go well with my layout. Saw maritime One today a 66 you reviewed a few years back. I am recovering a lot of lost videos and images that were delete from Google photos and my device instead of the cloud like I wanted to happen.

Very good details

I love having your Gladstone in the rankings, it lets us laugh at outdated or badly designed locos that manage to score worse than it.

I got a class 92 the same one as yours 92 023!!!

I have been considering a Hornby 92 for a long time now, but since the announcement & first painted samples of the Accurascale ones I can say for sure where my money is going to go instead! Also, the shade of blue used is totally wrong, compare it to a real life photo and it's way darker and has more of a slight green tinge to it.

Which locomotive should I buy for my birthday,Steam Locomotive or diesel locomotives

Harsh but honest,I received three Hornby engines of late and had to do cosmetic repairs on all three have yet to run them in but still happy with my purchases. Rule #1 I like the look of them.

Hi sam I hope you're ok Would yourecommend the hornby rocket

For £65 I think it's really good vslue for what it is. For £100 I also think it's ok TBH. Not amazing but certainly not a rip off either. I'd be happy with it at either price. Actually makes a change to see a new Hornby loco at an affordable price point that's acceptable. It looked to improve the crawl a bit too, give it more use maybe more. Add some weathering and could be a lot more convincing. Certainly passes the 2FT rule IMO. Good vid.

hi sam... i guess the pantograph are mechanically operated .. by hand!!! even bachmanns class 90 is miles ahead and there is no comparison to accurscale class 92. however a good model for a kids first model. just cant wait for my accurascale 92 to arrive.. oh and yes would love to see you do some reviews of accurascale models.

Looking at the box picture it seems like they drew/painted half the engine then just flipped it over to make one complete picture. A cheap and much quicker way to make a drawing of the engine.

This is definitely less of a model and more of a toy, but the price is more inline with what it is, which is a refreshing change for a Hornby release. Not a bargain, but about average price for what it is :). A shame Hornby did not include proper operating pantographs with this model, but I guess it couldn't be too good :) The gauging seems normal for Hornby Railroad, at least the earlier ones I have dealt with. Hornby seems to slightly undergauge them at the 14 to 14.2mm......... Thanks for another great review

No single ended drive Electric locos for me. Thanks for buying Sam so I don't have to. Did you actually check the flange depth as they actually look like Lima Wheels which had deeper flanges?

Definitely Railroad for me, and did you notice on the back (right lower) it says "Do not scale"? Surely this should be "Not to scale".

I bought the Lima version of this back in 1996 and thought it was the Bees knees. It’s still not a bad model if you can get it at such a low price. £100 is pushing it though. I’d also point out that it’s the wrong shade of blue. The real thing is quite a bit darker

Looks Great!

I saw one of these in person a few months ago in this livery and from what I remember, the colour of the livery is inaccurate. I remember it being a much darker blue

That is so amazing sam

I would really like one of these, I might get one as the only thing putting me off is the dumb mechanism, but I'd probably use it light engine more often anyway. And hey, it's not a Hornby 66

Hey Sam can you do a really long train with ALL of your coaches and wagons and right at the front can you have your most expensive trains. Plz tell me what trains to get for my first ones because I'm just starting to build a Hornby/Bachmann railway, thnx

If you think about it, there is no odd one out as they are all technically electric locomotives, even the steam outline locos!

Does the fact that the bogus bogie has conducting strips fitted to each of the 6 wheels mean that the installation of a motor would be possible?

Could you perhaps re-review the Class 71? Great video as always.

Goodness me, I remember my dad buying a couple of these back in the 90s. He bought one from Beatties in Manchester, accidentally scraping his car in the car park afterwards. So this review has really taken me back! Nice to know I can get one 25 years later 😆

They made the coaches for the Caledonian Sleeper in my hometown! CAF USA, in Elmira, NY.

When are you going to get some overhead centenary to run it under correctly ?

Good and fair review, I agree a sloppy end product with clearly incorrect evaluation of its place in their product lines, incorrect packaging ( Hornby Railways Box), cover images, incorrect instructions etc, and definitely should be in Railroad range. However, any suggested comparison with the upcoming Accurascale model is like comparing chalk and cheese, on expected release the DCC ready version will be £189.99, only those with pre-orders will get the 'early bird' pre-Jan 2022 price. So on the current RRP that makes it almost 3 times what you paid and nearly double what Hornby's RRP for what is a Railroad (a basic model), and aside from the 'wrong' product category Hornby aren't trying to hide the fact it's an old model because as you pointed out its on the box. I am not a Hornby apologist, their price rises in comparison to others seems indefensible, but your great review of the recent 'upgrade' to the A1, even though not perfect, proves they are still capable of producing good models albeit not a new tooling. By the by, Auscision are great models, their HO scale models are sublime and prices competitive, their new 2022 release of a CLR Class diesel loco with DCC Loksound fitted, on pre-order, is $395 (GBP225). ...Drew

Has Sam ever reviewed an accurascale model? I’m looking forward to seeing what they are like

Hey Sam can u review the heljan vicars electric type 2 Co-Bo (basis of BoCo)

Following your review I bought a fairly recent but secondhand Class 92 on Ebay for £30 plus postage. The main issue is that its slow speed running (up to about half speed) is rather poor in one direction. It seems to hesitate once every revolution of something (probably not the motor but I am not sure). I am half-tempted to try to look at the gear wheels but that would involve trying not to break the vertical, sprung plastic V clip ( I assume one just squeezes it together but so far I have not succedded) and then going against your advice to open up partially the motor. Perhaps I will just enjoy its running at a 50% cruising speed?

The Accurascale Deltic is arriving very soon. Will you try it?

I wanted to buy this but I got the Malcolm rail class 90 from hornby

Oh dear Sam..the 92 looks like it belongs in the beginners guide to model railways. All the best.

Is it just me or are modellrailways from around DE/AT/CH much better than the ones in UK? Because in most reviews I watch from you I see something that is missing, that I take for granted on models here Like a close coupler and the guide for it, decent lights etc

Is it the old Lima or the old Hornby 92?

I have a question regarding prices. Are british manufacturers' product genuinely more expensive than those on the continent? I bought a Piko Expert Co' Co' diesel recently and for 20 pounds more than this Hornby loco it has way more features and details...

I have the Hornby class 33. Which is a modernized Lima engine like the class92. It looks like it has the same motor which is truly dreadful. No slow running and when you slow it down it just comes to a grinding immediate stop. Sometimes so sharply that it derails the motor bogie. The original Lima version that I also have I hate to say runs far better than the newer Hornby version.

If this model had no lights it would be a carbon copy of Hornby's class 66,a railroad loco in a railways box. Not bad for the price you paid. I purchased a Lima class 92 sometime ago and enjoyed fitting the roof parts which came in a large pack of extras. The pantographs are much more realistic and are made of metal.

It's not ex-lima, it's Hornby's own model updated. Because both Lima and Hornby made the 92s (they also both announced the 90s, but lima's never appeared). I have the margate 3-pole ringfield 92 in triple grey on my layout, it runs ok but of course it is noisy and the pickups are relatively poor and there are no tail lights and the light bleed from the forward lights acts as a cab light too. I don't think the lima ones had lights at all, but I could be wrong (the lima 67s had them, after all) because I don't have one yet (I'd love an EWS one). I've got accurascale's 92010 on order, although none of the mk5 packs to go with it (one pack of mk5as was enough for my wallet). That instruction booklet is a mess. 92s are dual voltage 25kV AC overhead and 750V DC 3rd rail, but not diesel electric, and most certainly not a Bo-Bo class 90 as per the diagrams inside the booklet. Not surprised about its performance at all. We shouldn't have to say "at least it isn't more expensive than it is".

I had one, loved it. Was stolen from me though sadly...