Samsung ViewFinity S9 5K vs Apple Studio Display

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@JerrySchulze
@JerrySchulze 9 ай бұрын
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@skfirozali4258
@skfirozali4258 8 ай бұрын
😂wrryu
@DroidGame2023
@DroidGame2023 7 ай бұрын
спасибо, полезный обзор. коммент в поддержку твоего канала
@WanderingAroundAZ
@WanderingAroundAZ 5 ай бұрын
This is on sale for under $900. Is it worth it for that price?
@whatsgoodmyguy4391
@whatsgoodmyguy4391 2 ай бұрын
So its a no brainier Because its now 899
@Squeezingjuice101
@Squeezingjuice101 22 күн бұрын
Put the apple monitor up against the lg c3 tv .
@stevenqirkle
@stevenqirkle 8 ай бұрын
I actually bought the Studio Display once the Samsung was announced. Suddenly the Studio Display started to look like a great value once the Viewfinity was announced.
@ThePainWhisperer
@ThePainWhisperer 8 ай бұрын
An even greater value is my samsumg 55" 4K TV that i bought for $300.
@stevenqirkle
@stevenqirkle 8 ай бұрын
@@ThePainWhisperer congrats I guess, but not really comparable.
@AppIeOfficial
@AppIeOfficial 8 ай бұрын
@@ThePainWhisperer lol how does that even come close to 5k 27 inches?
@hassanahmed1755
@hassanahmed1755 8 ай бұрын
Can you let me know if there is any advantage of thunderbolt 4 over thunderbolt 3 in the studio display?
@rsr789
@rsr789 8 ай бұрын
@@AppIeOfficial It doesn't. It's a typical non-sequitur and idiotic KZfaq comment.
@bryans8656
@bryans8656 9 ай бұрын
Samsung is making a mistake charging the same as the Apple display considering the inferior build quality.
@JerrySchulze
@JerrySchulze 9 ай бұрын
Yep
@ronalcasid3844
@ronalcasid3844 9 ай бұрын
I’m sure retailers will be discounting them but yeah I’d pass on the Samsung at the same price.
@SuperEmlo
@SuperEmlo 9 ай бұрын
Maybe for PC customer?
@mohammedzaid5989
@mohammedzaid5989 9 ай бұрын
@@SuperEmlo Do you think a PC customer is going to pay $1600 for a productivity monitor? They'd be better off buying an oled TV for that price.
@jamesleetrigg
@jamesleetrigg 9 ай бұрын
They certainly are making Apple look like the better buy. And that’s not good for their brand.
@substance90
@substance90 5 ай бұрын
Don't get me wrong, I love my Studio Display but these are similar in price only on paper, not in the real world. The Studio Display is € 2200 in Germany with the height adjustable stand and close to € 2500 if you add the matte finish. The S9 5K is around € 1350-1450, depending on the shop. And at the end of the day with the Studio Display you're still missing 90 degree rotation for programmers...
@Swave93
@Swave93 Ай бұрын
You're spot on. Market games are real
@maitiaru
@maitiaru Ай бұрын
These are apple fanboys, you spot them easily when they put forward a justification like- when you are spending 1600 for a monitor why not 300 more .
@NDakota79
@NDakota79 9 ай бұрын
The Studio Display is pure elegance. The build in power adapter, which seems not so easy to copy looking at Samsungs gigantic external adapter. The sleek design with powerful build in speakers and a passable webcam. The premiere hight adjustable stand which is an engineering marvel. The perfectly symmetric bezels. The overall build quality. This package is not easily copied.
@Bmarker299
@Bmarker299 9 ай бұрын
Well said. I am going for the Studio Display
@latingringo89
@latingringo89 9 ай бұрын
The S9 design is sleeker with slimmer bezels and a completely removable/adjustable camera just cheaper materials which shouldn't really matter with a display. A laptop would be a different story on material I'd rather money be put into features over the material if I had to choose... I guess I'm in the minority...
@EnterSpacebar
@EnterSpacebar 8 ай бұрын
Built in power adapters are cancer. Power adapters should always, always be external!
@ria8850
@ria8850 8 ай бұрын
@@latingringo89 a removable camera... with worse picture quality
@latingringo89
@latingringo89 8 ай бұрын
@@ria8850Depends on the app my friend. Regardless, I'd rather have the option to completely remove the camera rather than have some extra mega pixels for a zoom meeting. Apple wants to keep an eye on you 24/7 obviously.
@bunnyfartloads
@bunnyfartloads 3 ай бұрын
I just bought the samsung viewfinity s9 for $699. For that kind of monies I just couldn't pass it up. The picture is awesome and I am able to use the volume and brightness controls on my keyboard just like the studio display. For me I like being able to watch split screen that is pretty cool I can be on my mac and watch TV at the same time. For $699 I think its steal of a deal.
@JerrySchulze
@JerrySchulze 3 ай бұрын
That is a good deal. Where did you get it?
@bunnyfartloads
@bunnyfartloads 3 ай бұрын
@@JerrySchulze ebay brand new. works awesome
@JerrySchulze
@JerrySchulze 3 ай бұрын
Fantastic!
@DominicFrohlof
@DominicFrohlof 7 ай бұрын
Note: the much better choice for the Studio Display is a 3rd party VESA mount arm. I have the $100 Amazon Basics (which is a licensed Ergotron) and it's fantastic. It gives the Studio Display rotation capability and unveils a hidden feature: The monitor will automatically and instantly recognize that it has been rotated and rotate the video data. It ALSO will rotate the webcam picture. Also I'd mention the microphones. They're fantastic and let you have video meetings without headsets and echos. The integration in iOS is just unmatched.
@balkeep
@balkeep 4 ай бұрын
Amazon basic is words worse than ergotron, it’s not even remotely comparable.
@rickshapiro63
@rickshapiro63 7 ай бұрын
Most places are selling the Samsung at $300 off, $1300USD. Add the adjustable stand and Nano finish on Apple and you are pushing $2,200USD. That $800 saving buys some nice pro audio speakers and a better Webcam.
@batsai
@batsai 9 ай бұрын
Thanks for the straighttalk Jerry. I appreciate all the work that went into this review!
@PixlPath
@PixlPath 8 ай бұрын
The Studio Display is a work of art, no doubt about it. If only it would accept HDMI sources, but alas, Apple has never really played nice in the playground of cross-compatibility (Apple Display Connector, anyone?). Hoping that will change in the future.
@user-uy3kb8vw5t
@user-uy3kb8vw5t 8 ай бұрын
You can get an adapter hdmi to usb c but it will then only output 4k not 5k
@KingVulpes
@KingVulpes 2 ай бұрын
@@user-uy3kb8vw5tif your GPU has a USB C port you could probably just use that
@SambitTripathy
@SambitTripathy 8 ай бұрын
Thanks for the detailed review. Can I play the audio on the Studio Display and Bose speakers at the same time?
@callejondorado
@callejondorado 8 ай бұрын
The Apple height-adjustable stand option is $500 dollars more, while that feature is already included in the Samsung monitor. So, it is not true Samsung is selling it for the same price. Same for the matt option, you pay about $400 more to get it in the Apple display, but it is already included in the Samsung. Go and compare yourself.
@sergiomaia3029
@sergiomaia3029 6 ай бұрын
Thanks for the video! I have a question: Which one would you choose for writing code?
@JerrySchulze
@JerrySchulze 6 ай бұрын
No difference for coding, I guess.
@cazcusumano2132
@cazcusumano2132 3 ай бұрын
Hi great review!! i’ve recently seen it for £984 now would you say it’s worth it over the studio display at this price?
@Jay-xj9yr
@Jay-xj9yr 8 ай бұрын
Besides being a better display on the studio , how does it perform for premier pro when it comes to editing ? It’s what I care about when getting it.
@_psnapp_
@_psnapp_ 4 ай бұрын
good reviews. Straight to the point and didnt waste my time. Thanks.
@30anerds
@30anerds 8 ай бұрын
This thing makes the Studio Display look like a great value honestly. I have loved my Studio Display. Great review Jerry.
@johnwagner9257
@johnwagner9257 9 ай бұрын
Hopefully it gets heavily discounted, then it might be an option for my secondary setup.
@stever7732
@stever7732 7 ай бұрын
I have the Apple Studio display and like a lot of people out of necessity I have it placed much nearer a rear wall than you had there. The Apple display can sound too bass heavy if placed within a couple of feet of a rear wall, depending of course on your listening preferences. I think the Samsung would still sound weak near a wall but there would probably be some beneficial bass reinforcement.
@Thabane_Chamane
@Thabane_Chamane 3 ай бұрын
I’m glad I bumped into this review because now I see that the S9 might seem great but still needs alot of work
@kasparssilins
@kasparssilins 8 ай бұрын
I completely agree with you! If the price of s9 was under 1000, then it could be a good option! 👍
@PolluxChung
@PolluxChung 9 ай бұрын
Unless there's a sale, this ViewFinity is a hard sell for Mac users. If you have to pay that $1600 price many may just bite the bullet and get the Studio Display with height adjustable stand for another $400. I am totally fine with my Huawei 28.2 Mateview for now, BTW. Can't really beat it when I managed to get it on sale for the price at 1/3 of ASD. Great to look at as well. I actually like the 3:2 ratio. Dimension-wise it's the same height of the 32" 16:9 and same width as the 27" 16:9.
@Bmarker299
@Bmarker299 9 ай бұрын
Even if ViewFinity goes down in price, I would rather own Apple's Studio Display for the quality and fit/finish. Cheaper alternatives are a prescription for remorse.
@extrasoap4881
@extrasoap4881 8 ай бұрын
i have my ASD on a monitor arm, which can be used for any future monitors with a Vesa mount. $400 on a stand compatible with just one monitor isn't a good deal.
@adamthurmond9092
@adamthurmond9092 8 ай бұрын
The big reason I could see going with S9 is needing to support multiple inputs. I’ve had my Studio Display for over a year with my M1 Max Mac Studio but after moving I only have room for one desk setup so I have to share space with my work from home setup which is already multiple monitors (but a govt HP laptop) I don’t want to move cables around as that’s janky and will wear things out quickly. I’m a total Apple sheep but I might sell the Studio Display and get the S9 to better suit my setup. Also, the S9 will get discounted more frequently and much more heavily than Apple to where I won’t end up paying $1600 when I pull the trigger.
@inthemoment8788
@inthemoment8788 8 ай бұрын
Have had the Studio display for half a year now. It expensive certainly, but you get what you pay for. It's pure quality.
@IgorDeoliMD
@IgorDeoliMD 8 ай бұрын
I recently bought the Studio Display and it's a work of art. It's truly beautiful and the best-looking monitor I've ever seen. And of course the compatibility with the Macbook is astonishing. The downsides, no HDR and the camera. For those reasons I think it's an overpriced monitor. The height adjustment is also overpriced but I don't mind using a monitor desk shelf on top of my desk. I actually like it. Image is amazing, speakers are VERY impressive. On my main PC I have studio monitors and studio headsets. The studio display does not come close to those, obviously. But it's so good if you don't want to be to meticulous about analyzing the sound, that I don't feel the need to get extra speakers at all when I'm using the display.
@chuck7415
@chuck7415 7 ай бұрын
for being non-HDR I have seen many comparisons with "HDR" displays and the Studio Display looked better. Of course a GOOD HDR display will look better than the Studio Display, but so many screens claim HDR and are crap.
@ufoncz-techie
@ufoncz-techie 9 ай бұрын
I have S9 and the only reason I have acquired it over Studio Display is much better compatibility with Windows. I can confirm, speakers are average, camera as well, on top, if you use BENQ LED light on top of monitor then forget S9 camera or LED, not compatible (you can put it on side as workaround). Another small issue is that sometimes does not reconnect picture when re-connect to CalDigit4 dock (M2ProMax), remote ctrl switch helps. On the other hand, I am happy user because it is what I have expected, as long as Windows is the gaming platform and S9 works with it great, you can switch between them easily, Windows supports like Mac HiDPI resolution, you can control monitor and everything from remote if needed. If you have like me external studio speakers, I could recommend it as Mac/Win setup. I liked BENQ Pro 32" monitor more (KVM, dial), but they do not offer 5K/6K, alternative might be new Dell 32"6K, but camera there is also bulky in the middle (see LED lamp issue).
@deyh5664
@deyh5664 2 ай бұрын
The SD doesn't work with a microsoft pc? Anyone knows?
@ufoncz-techie
@ufoncz-techie 2 ай бұрын
@@deyh5664 I do not have SD, but as far as I know and what I have tested in the shop, SD works with Windows (shows the picture), but since the monitor has no physical control buttons, you need SW to change the settings. In MacOS it is easy as it is included in the monitor settings. Since there is no such SW for Windows for settings, you cannot change anything, but you will see some picture.
@GeorgeTombras
@GeorgeTombras 9 ай бұрын
Thank you. It was a clear comparison.
@JerrySchulze
@JerrySchulze 9 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@dbinbama
@dbinbama 8 ай бұрын
Thank you for your evaluations of the S9 versus the Studio Display. I’ve been planning a major computer upgrade since last fall. When the S9 was announced (nine months ago), I was excited, because it sounded as if Samsung had come out with a Studio Display killer. And there was all the speculation I saw that Samsung would sock it to Apple by pricing the S9 far below the SD, making it a no-brainer. Well, we see now how valid those predictions were. Not! I had thought early on of going with the S9 for cost, even though I’ve heard so much good about the SD. I’m close to ordering a Mac Studio but will probably go with the SD over the S9. I think that, from a price perspective, Samsung got greedy and has shot themselves in the foot, letting a good opportunity to get the S9 out the door slip away. Samsung’s decision to price the S9 so close to the SD leaves me thinking that I might as well just go ahead and get the SD and be done with it.
@itshadouken
@itshadouken 7 ай бұрын
I’m guessing Samsung starts cutting prices this holiday season or next year while I expect Apple to keep the same price until they launch a v2 of the Studio Display w improved webcam and mics, higher refresh rate, and slimmer bezels. Would also love to see some buttons for power and volume and potentially built-in Apple TV functionality ie casting.
@shari_8410
@shari_8410 7 ай бұрын
@@itshadouken and hopefully even a OLED Display like their Iphone ones . So that Black is 100 % Black and not Black with Glowing Background
@artbymaree4680
@artbymaree4680 6 ай бұрын
Actually the Mac studio has screen glitching issues that many have complained about which usually happens with Apple products
@FlorentRey-Mermet
@FlorentRey-Mermet 2 ай бұрын
i dont know in your country but here in switzerland you can now get it for half the price....so the S9 became a better value than the studio display for 800 lol .
@vernearase3044
@vernearase3044 9 ай бұрын
I remember all the squawking about the Studio Display when it first came out, but more and more it seems like a great display - and probably the display I'll be getting when I'm ready to replace my 2020 iMac 5K.
@andrewdavidson665
@andrewdavidson665 9 ай бұрын
In the same boat here. Not yet ready to replace my 2020 iMac - that'll happen when they drop support for it and upgrades - but the Studio Display looks likely to be my path (though I'd love a 32" 6K that's not insanely expensive)
@vernearase3044
@vernearase3044 9 ай бұрын
@@andrewdavidson665 Yeah, I bought the 2020 iMac _loaded:_ 128 GB RAM, 4 TB SSD, Core-i9, AMD Radeon Pro 5700 XT w/16 GB VRAM. I _knew_ it would be a while (if ever) before you could play Win games at a good frame rate and high resolution on Apple Silicon, and I wanted this machine to last as long as possible. _Didn't_ know Microsoft was gonna introduce a requirement for additional security hardware for Win 11 though.
@andrewdavidson665
@andrewdavidson665 9 ай бұрын
@@vernearase3044hah! Literally the same as me barring the RAM. (I left RAM at base but bought 96GB after market) and also partially for the same about being able to play games, though I also wanted it for Windows VMs (Parallels rocks) for work and for Logic and yeah those Windows 11 requirements are frustrating. However I found I didn't play games on it as much as I hoped due to the hassle of dual booting so ended up buying a second (windows) PC to scratch that itch. Still love my iMac (my first desktop mac) though and will get possibly a Studio when I do eventually replace it, though given how powerful the mini with the M2pro is in it, it might be something like that, as long as there is a goodly amount of IO.
@jonathunky
@jonathunky 8 ай бұрын
Studio Display is still overpriced garbage. iMac 5K 2020 started from $1799, and it was a full-blown computer with decent AMD graphics, the latest mid-range Intel processor (which costed at least $200 on its own), keyboard and mouse and stuff. Studio Display just cannot cost this much. Maybe if it gets upgraded with mini-LED and 120 Hz, then it will be worth $1599. But not in its current state.
@vernearase3044
@vernearase3044 8 ай бұрын
@@jonathunky Sure, I hope by the time I'm ready to buy my next desktop they'll have upgraded it to a liquid retina XDR display, but I really need _at least_ a 5K display as I've been spoiled by the 5K iMac. No one says you have to buy it so don't get all up in your face about it. Buy a cheapo 4K display and let 'em double scale it for you. The studio display simply slots in and replaces the missing parts of the iMac 5K.
@abdullahdeshmukh99
@abdullahdeshmukh99 8 ай бұрын
Got the Studio Display almost 3 months ago. Didn't wait for this as I prefer the sharpness of the glossy screens. Don't regret it one bit.
@RyanRampersad
@RyanRampersad 9 ай бұрын
I was really hopeful when this was shown at CES. I use 1440p monitors right now and they're fine but was looking to upgrade now that I have an mbp that can drive more pixels. I'll see if Apple is refreshing the studio display this fall and then decide. Thanks for the awesome video!
@itshadouken
@itshadouken 7 ай бұрын
0.0 chance of them refreshing this display for at least 2 more years
@kevikiru
@kevikiru 5 ай бұрын
There is no way they are going to refresh the display. Not for at least a couple more years. It is a low volume product in a segment that is at best niche compared to the rest of the PC display market. It has not even paid for it's R&D.
@JacksonCampbell
@JacksonCampbell 8 ай бұрын
1:20 I love that unboxing experience. It's amazing.
@ArtandResearch
@ArtandResearch 9 ай бұрын
Hello, thank you for the review. does it work with Intel Macs with thunderbolt 3?
@JerrySchulze
@JerrySchulze 9 ай бұрын
Samsung website says apple silicon. I don't have an intel Mac to test with.
@ArtandResearch
@ArtandResearch 9 ай бұрын
thank you.@@JerrySchulze
@andyfx
@andyfx 9 ай бұрын
Great review. Thanks.
@JerrySchulze
@JerrySchulze 9 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@jrgarciab
@jrgarciab 8 ай бұрын
What a review! Thank you, Jerry. :D
@user-wn4qo5zu3t
@user-wn4qo5zu3t 4 ай бұрын
Thank you! But, love to know... does the Apple Studio display interface with non apple laptops/tablets? I need to be able to utilise the display for both personal devices & work (windows)
@ExSkyCyclePilot
@ExSkyCyclePilot 7 ай бұрын
The S9 goes on sale at Best Buy for $1299 regularly, and for those of us on Windows, the S9 is the only 2880p option. I have recording studio speakers, so I don't care about the sound quality of the S9. And the height/tilt etc. are "set it and forget it", so that's not really an issue. I would prefer a higher quality version of the S9 without the "smart" features, for a lower price, though. I hope 2880p monitors catch on. Windows at 200% scaling would be great on one of those.
@SweetSweetCandyBoyz
@SweetSweetCandyBoyz 8 ай бұрын
spot-on review, that was my experience as well. Good enough, better than 4K, but for the price, just skip the height adjusting stand and you’ll have a much better experience with the Studio Display. For something under $1,500, I'd suggest the last generation 4K Samsung M8 as a better value (if you can find one under $400) and want something better than your average 1080p/1440p display
@llothar68
@llothar68 5 ай бұрын
And resell value in 5 years will for sure be better with Apple then Samsung
@templar.
@templar. 2 ай бұрын
not sure if you still check the comments on this video but where did you get the lantern/stand behind you? i personally love the aesthetic
@josephbissochi
@josephbissochi 9 ай бұрын
I think that for the same price samsung has to give many benefits to choose it over the studio display
@JerrySchulze
@JerrySchulze 9 ай бұрын
And what they offer just isn’t enough. Maybe if the speakers were great that would help.
@jasonloke2219
@jasonloke2219 8 ай бұрын
Great comparison! Thanks for sharing!
@jaspalkallar5993
@jaspalkallar5993 9 ай бұрын
Great review and if I'm not the wrong (one of) the first on KZfaq . Is the bezel of the ViewFinity S9 symmetrical all round as it appears the bottom one is not? After your review I actually now like the bezels on the ASD much more.
@michaelkhalsa
@michaelkhalsa 9 ай бұрын
Thin bezels are nice for 2 displays side by side
@UltraKryptonian
@UltraKryptonian 7 ай бұрын
In your video, I heard you mention the S9 monitor having HDR support, but you zipped past Apple not having it. Then on 8:46 you said, "Apple does do a much better job on High Dynamic Range", which implies the Studio Monitor has HDR support (which it does not). Also, you sort of skimmed through the price difference between the two monitors. Your Studio Display costs more than the S9, because you purchased the optional up/down mount - but you show both costing $1600.
@Sandman503413
@Sandman503413 3 ай бұрын
It's called favoritism.
@smamurai
@smamurai 8 ай бұрын
I think the main dealbreaker of the studio display is the refusal to work seamlessly with anything but Apple devices. Even if someone uses only Apple devices at home, the truth is most work places use windows and working from home is becoming more of a thing, people don’t want to have to setup multiple monitors for different purposes. I should be able to use my display with my mac and be able to plug in pc/laptop to do some wfh without jumping through hoops (only supports thunderbolt devices, can’t change brightness, no on/off button)
@bruintoo
@bruintoo Ай бұрын
Thanks for the comparison. I was able to pick up a slightly used Studio Display for $1100 versus a brand new Samsung S9 fior $1500.
@JerrySchulze
@JerrySchulze Ай бұрын
Very nice!
@Ed_Mann
@Ed_Mann 5 ай бұрын
For anyone who is truly interested in audio, far superior to anything built in is available for not much. Down firing hype adjusted 6 speaker systems are great for entertainment, but nothing replaces good speakers facing directly at the listener from near-field positioning. Companies such as JBL are now selling self-powered 4” monitors in well-engineered small but heavy enclosures that are good enough to mix an album on, total price about $200.00. You’re spending many thousands of dollars on a display, a user could spend a few hundred more and have audio that matches the imagery these high end displays offer.
@wamote6867
@wamote6867 9 ай бұрын
I'm very happy with my two Studio Display, way better then the older LG 5K.
@vincemerrell3993
@vincemerrell3993 8 ай бұрын
I think it's kinda disappointing we're still having this conversation now (and that monitors of this calibre are still at the $1500 price point) I've had a Studio display since the middle of 2022. It's great and works well with my Mac Studio but in all honesty, it's not a big improvement over the original 5K retina display in the late 2014 iMacs. That said, it just works: seamless brighness and volume adjustments (and nightshift/truetone) and the in-built camera is good enough for my needs and it has been faultless to date. The speakers are sufficient for most purposes and I've found myself using them more in lieu of the Sonos Play 1's in my main study area. Definitely better than the old and new iMac speakers by a country mile. But if I also had a non-Apple device to connect, then the sheer lack of physical buttons and configuration in the Studio display feels like it would be a poor (and potentially impossible) option.
@miroslavholecek8937
@miroslavholecek8937 9 ай бұрын
Thanks for that audio comparison... I think I have a winner. I personally don't need to have two speaker monitors on my desk and I don't ned adjustable height. What I need is matte display for my Mac mini and a decluttered desk. Also, the image from the camera on the Studio display is just more comfortable to look at.
@JasonMilner
@JasonMilner 8 ай бұрын
Glad I went for the Studio Display - no regrets. I reckon you'll be able to get the S9 discounted soon though, so then it might make sense...
@doandris
@doandris 9 ай бұрын
I just bought an old iMac 5k and use it as a display :D works fine for $300
@Bmarker299
@Bmarker299 9 ай бұрын
Helpful. You saved me remorse. I am going to order the Apple SD
@JerrySchulze
@JerrySchulze 9 ай бұрын
I love my SD!
@extrasoap4881
@extrasoap4881 8 ай бұрын
go with the ASD. that feeling after you've bought a cheaper version, feeling like you should have gone with the one you wanted, is not nice. and you might end up selling the cheaper one and getting the one you want anyway.
@davidalcorta9505
@davidalcorta9505 2 ай бұрын
How does it handle additional inputs? On my current LG 4K monitor, in addition to my 2015 5K imac thru displayport, I have the option of going to my M1 powerbook on USBC or Tivo mini and 4th gen AppleTV via HDMI. You can't do that on a Apple Studio display (or can you??) but would like to do that on the now $899 Samsung. And if so how does the display look upscaling the Tivo mini?
@yurymleh
@yurymleh 8 ай бұрын
An external powerbrick is a massive plus for repairability.
@MohamadAlRifai
@MohamadAlRifai 4 ай бұрын
How bad is the bricked Apple studio display issue?
@MichaelNNguyen
@MichaelNNguyen 4 күн бұрын
I'll take the Studio Display any day of the week.
@eickler
@eickler 7 ай бұрын
The difference is that the Samsung prices will normally come down while the Apple ones don't. Over here in Europe, if you take the stand in the video, the Studio will be at 2209 Euro, which is 550 Euro higher than the Samsung also in Europe.
@JerrySchulze
@JerrySchulze 7 ай бұрын
Yep, check the link because $300 off today.
@eickler
@eickler 7 ай бұрын
@@JerrySchulze Ohh thanks! Changes into €200 here, but well, 200 is 200.
@juliosaca
@juliosaca 5 күн бұрын
Hello looking at buying the s9 at a good discount just was worried about your final comment that you cant fix the bad speakers by connecting external ones. Why?? I have a pair of usb bose companion speakers, cant I just connect them to the usb hub?
@JerrySchulze
@JerrySchulze 5 күн бұрын
Yes, you absolutely can for playing audio from a computer through the display as a hub, but if you want to use display as a standalone gaming or video device, you can’t.
@JimKanaris
@JimKanaris 9 ай бұрын
Thanks very much for this! It really gave me perspective on Apple's offering, which I USED to think was overpriced.
@JerrySchulze
@JerrySchulze 9 ай бұрын
You can make the argument that both of these are overpriced, but one of these are living in a fantasy world.
@JimKanaris
@JimKanaris 9 ай бұрын
@@JerrySchulze very well said!
@brentbourgoine5893
@brentbourgoine5893 9 ай бұрын
I mean, it still is - for the price they're asking it could at *least* have a couple of other inputs and a better webcam. That said, it's a fine display and docking station for a MBP, it just costs a kidney.
@JerrySchulze
@JerrySchulze 9 ай бұрын
The issue is the 5K display still takes quite a bit of the thunderbolt bandwidth, so maybe with the next version of thunderbolt we can get more ports.
@enzoduke495
@enzoduke495 9 ай бұрын
@@JerrySchulze you mean mac studio can only be used mostly with apple and can't be connected to a console or other pc's? At least the Samsung can be used with any equipment. But agree this two monitors are really over priced for different reasons
@spenceandretti5135
@spenceandretti5135 9 ай бұрын
*Update* Thanks to this video I found the smart things app and was able to do a calibration with my iPhone. **I hope they bring the calibration feature to the Samsung M8 monitor. I was awaiting the s9, but with that price I'll save up for a refurbished Studio Display.
@petereriksson6760
@petereriksson6760 8 ай бұрын
What about if you need to connect different computers to the screen? Think connecting a PC sometimes and a Mac sometimes...
@JerrySchulze
@JerrySchulze 8 ай бұрын
With one connected with TB3 and another connected with DisplayPort, you can switch using the onscreen display.
@mgaming7
@mgaming7 9 ай бұрын
The difference will be Samsung will put their display on sale for $999 by Christmas, making it an really good deal. at the end of the day Glossy wins for me, but if all you care about is an accurate color reproduction and 5k, the samsung will be a way better value as soon as it's on sale.
@JerrySchulze
@JerrySchulze 9 ай бұрын
You are probably right!
@JamesBond-fo6ow
@JamesBond-fo6ow 9 ай бұрын
ASD has been on sale for $1250- $1350 currently (US) recently several places. Not $999 no, but a pretty good drop if you are in the market.
@extrasoap4881
@extrasoap4881 8 ай бұрын
@@JamesBond-fo6ow $200-$300 seems like a fair upgrade for build quality, support and better speakers imo, if we're comparing discounted prices for both
@balkeep
@balkeep 4 ай бұрын
Samsung can connect to a different sources, Samsung has stand AND VESA mount. Two super important advantages you forgot about. And in my country basic ASD costs 2200 usd, Samsung 1200…
@MePeterNicholls
@MePeterNicholls 8 ай бұрын
After looking around I went for the Apple display. Solid build quality. Beats the rest hands down
@kilarisarathkumar1214
@kilarisarathkumar1214 9 ай бұрын
At this price point might as well get 42inch oled tv even if u have to deal with the tv software things
@Damian-kb2nh
@Damian-kb2nh 3 ай бұрын
Have You noticed any loud noises (coils?) from inside when You use any item pluged in USB-C to monitor ex. SSD or Card Reader?
@Davidkos_
@Davidkos_ 8 ай бұрын
Yeah the Viewfinity is just not worth it at this price. Very good video, explained everything spot on!
@bren.r
@bren.r 9 ай бұрын
Matte displays are a hard pass for me. When manufacturers can start offering glossy options, then they have an opportunity to take my money.
@StrifePulse
@StrifePulse 9 ай бұрын
Exactly!
@RedLeo-pf9yo
@RedLeo-pf9yo 9 ай бұрын
I agree 100% !!!!
@kalafalas246
@kalafalas246 9 ай бұрын
This is why no matter what I’ve tried, I always come back to apple
@MadManTnT
@MadManTnT 9 ай бұрын
Yep. Matte screen lose resolution first of all.
@derekkelly485
@derekkelly485 9 ай бұрын
Yes to this!
@aklem001
@aklem001 8 ай бұрын
Very helpful. I’m bummed. I was really hoping this would be an option to the apple display. The price is silly.
@7-bs
@7-bs 8 ай бұрын
It’s selling for 1k$ in my country .. might actually scoop one since I already have a studio display
@Vinci101
@Vinci101 6 ай бұрын
Can I control the camera on this monitor? I have a samsung m8, and its camera does not allow you to change the focal length, it is not very convenient to use for video calls, too much is in the frame, basically all my small room, I would like to crop the picture, or just zoom in. Is it possible to control this on the S9?
@DJVas514
@DJVas514 9 ай бұрын
How's this compare to an LG C2 or C3 in 42 or 48 inch? Is the pixel density much better on these 5k displays versus the 4K displays?
@JerrySchulze
@JerrySchulze 9 ай бұрын
92 ppi on a 48" 4k, 218 ppi on these.
@Fred_the_Head
@Fred_the_Head 6 ай бұрын
Amazon rates this monitor 3 stars.
@frankwalder3608
@frankwalder3608 6 ай бұрын
I'm saving my money for a Studio display.
@VarunSeth
@VarunSeth 2 күн бұрын
Why did you place the macbook just between the two displays? It would have been very useful to actually compare their sizes left and right, specially because you have positioned the S9 slightly higher above then Studio display.
@NBPT428
@NBPT428 6 ай бұрын
Wow, I thought the Mac Studio display was expensive and their were no alternatives. I'm shopping for a new Mac now and after this review, the Apple is well worth the difference. As soon as you started and compared the build quality,, my mind started to change. While the display performance itself is not absurdly different between the two, the build quality, materials and execution of the Apple Display is superior. Thanks for setting me straight!!👍
@JerrySchulze
@JerrySchulze 6 ай бұрын
If you can, get it from the apple refurb store and save like $300
@PhilipWallage
@PhilipWallage 7 ай бұрын
Great review Jerry, thank you so much! As much as I'd love to get away from my 49" ultra-wide, I'll hold on to my cash to see which next monitor Apple will release.
@timstafford6815
@timstafford6815 8 ай бұрын
I'd suggest you review the Dell U32224KB 6K. It's a whole different deal. Not for everyone. But pretty awesome if one is willing to fiddle a little.
@daveninjaneuro7089
@daveninjaneuro7089 2 ай бұрын
Can I ask where you got that shelf with teh light on top?
@WanderingAroundAZ
@WanderingAroundAZ 5 ай бұрын
This is on sale for under $900. Is it worth it for that price?
@ousi00
@ousi00 7 ай бұрын
The only issue I have with the Apple display in general is that they only have 1 input. I have a Mac Studio and a MacBook (for work) that makes it a no-go.
@scottboettcher1344
@scottboettcher1344 9 ай бұрын
Thanks for the review; it makes me feel better about paying $1,600 for the ASD.
@JerrySchulze
@JerrySchulze 9 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching.
@jdnaveen321
@jdnaveen321 8 ай бұрын
big difference between samsung and apple is sammy will definitely bring the price way down in few years, also buying in duty free makes it no match, when that day comes im buying one
@tonykim3430
@tonykim3430 9 ай бұрын
Thanks Jerry! I was waiting for the review for so long for the VF S9. Very disappointing that only the bottom frame is made from metal. Maybe and hopefully the price goes down in upcoming black friday or in later discounts with other samsung monitors.
@latingringo89
@latingringo89 8 ай бұрын
Who knew a bottom frame would deter someone from buying a more feature rich device lol. Priorities need to be checked my friend.
@extrasoap4881
@extrasoap4881 8 ай бұрын
eh, i wouldn't call it feature rich.
@extrasoap4881
@extrasoap4881 8 ай бұрын
i also noticed in the video that the VFS9's bottom plate (not the whole stand even, im guessing) is a lot thinner than the ASD's. i use a monitor arm so wobble isn't an issue, but i hated the creaking of my previous Dell monitor when i was adjusting the height. just holding the sides of the display made it creak, and dust would get trapped between the edges of the display and the frame, since the glass doesn't sit flushed like the ASD
@marcosvictor4935
@marcosvictor4935 8 ай бұрын
Just a note: you cannot accomplish the same as a smart TV with a computer, streaming services will only stream low quality video to PCs, bitrate is quite low with blocky scenes and most won't even stream in 4k. Only Netflix and only in very specific circumstances. So yeah, there's value in having native TV apps that can actually stream in high quality and high resolution. Also, I personally have a separate TV in my office and I will use it to watch something when the PC is busy rendering, in which case trying to watch on the same PC would cause stutters and other performance issues. In any case, thanks for the review, very informative and helpful.
@matthewTobrien
@matthewTobrien 9 ай бұрын
Ugh. I was really excited to have a lower cost option to replace my aging 27" Thunderbolt Displays to better match my main display - the Studio Display... but not seeing anything with the S9 that makes it worth the $1600 price tag for me. I'd rather just buy two more Studio Displays (if I could afford it). Honestly, I'm shocked Samsung priced it at $1600. I was thinking $799. Great breakdown, Jerry!
@JerrySchulze
@JerrySchulze 9 ай бұрын
Hey Matt, thanks for checking it out. Yeah, there is just no compelling reason to go with this Samsung 5K display. Maybe if the speakers were on par with the Studio Display and it was a couple hundred dollars cheaper you can make a case for it.
@jeanbaptistelabelle
@jeanbaptistelabelle 8 ай бұрын
Where did you get this price??? In Europe, the Apple Studio Display is almost 30% more expensive !
@BAmalakas
@BAmalakas 8 ай бұрын
What are the use cases for these monitors? I find even 4k to be overkill at 27”, for general desktop use wouldn’t a couple of 1440p screens be better and costs a whole lot less?
@JerrySchulze
@JerrySchulze 8 ай бұрын
That’s exact reason for 5K. 5K displayed as retina means it’s 1440 P in size but double the pixels so everything is clear and sharp. 4K in native resolution at 27 inches is way too small and at double resolution 1080 P is too big. You can scale a 4K display to 1440 P but it’s not very clear and it looks weird.
@Piketom1
@Piketom1 9 ай бұрын
This is a really good comparison, thank you! I've been using the Studio display as the dock for my MacBook pro since the display released. It's been a solid AIO docking solution for the computer but there are somethings that really annoy me. The fact that height adjustment isn't standard is just stupid, the webcam quality is not great for the price, and the I/O sucks compared to the 27" iMac the setup replaced. At this point, I'm really nitpicking. The studio display feels like a real premium product that is on the same level as a higher end MacBook pro. Your conclusion to the video is on point about the price of the samsung. It's very disappointing that Samsung didn't try to market it as a lower cost alternative to the Studio Display. There absolutely is a market for such a product.
@JerrySchulze
@JerrySchulze 9 ай бұрын
I wonder if the next version of thunderbolt will allow for a better built-in docking station. Right now the 5K display takes up a lot of the bandwidth so you only get USB-C.
@mirz4e
@mirz4e 9 ай бұрын
I think the price for the S9 will come down to around $1k on Amazon in less than a year.
@MIN_Tech
@MIN_Tech 8 ай бұрын
thanks a lot for sharing great video!!!
@Joe_Brig
@Joe_Brig 9 ай бұрын
If you want a 5k monitor that supports Windows, Mac and Linux, the S9 is the only option? I would wait for the 30% off sales though.
@G03LIN
@G03LIN 7 ай бұрын
Matte screen is my biggest problem with it. Thats a big reason why people like Mac displays I feel that doesn’t get mentioned enough.
@Mokeygodo
@Mokeygodo 5 ай бұрын
I have a Studio Display. The only reason I would consider the S9 is if it would have a HDMI input port so I could also connect my PS5 to it in addition to my Mac Studio so I could save desk space, but since it does not there is no need for me to switch.
@dustinglass
@dustinglass 8 ай бұрын
Do you happen to have a link to that wallpaper you're using?
@JerrySchulze
@JerrySchulze 8 ай бұрын
One is the built in from Big Sur, the other is www.pexels.com/photo/silhouette-of-mountains-1323550/
@dustinglass
@dustinglass 8 ай бұрын
@@JerrySchulze Thanks!
@iamselvarangan
@iamselvarangan 9 ай бұрын
Hey bro i am using macbook air M1 but when i try to connect with my 768p tv that external monitor every 3 seconds once automatically blinking how to solve this issue can you give me any suggestions for that. I have connected with 3 in 1 type c connector when i try to connect with my samsung mobile its working perfectly.
@JerrySchulze
@JerrySchulze 9 ай бұрын
I don’t have an answer but connecting to TVs has always had weird issues in my experience.
@steventonm
@steventonm 8 ай бұрын
Great assessment. The Studio display is a no-brainer for me as I am heavily into the Apple eco-sphere already. Just plug in and play. What else could you want? It just WORKS! As for screen rotation, get the VESA mount and an Ergotron LX stand and you are really cooking! Thanks for the video!
@JerrySchulze
@JerrySchulze 8 ай бұрын
thanks for checking it out
@DominicFrohlof
@DominicFrohlof 7 ай бұрын
exactly, using a VESA mount arm is so much better! I got the Amazon Basics $100 arm which is a licensed Ergotron copy. Great value!
@stephen35235
@stephen35235 8 ай бұрын
Fair & balanced review, Jerry. The Samsung unit should be priced at no more than $995.
@llothar68
@llothar68 5 ай бұрын
Especially when they sell an 8K 55" TV for $995.
@user-db2rj9ec9i
@user-db2rj9ec9i 6 ай бұрын
Hello, I am an Apple addicted and hence the Apple Studio Display is my absolute preference. Unfortunately, one of my clients works with a windows PC workstation and hence I would like to know if it is easy to connect a HP Elitebook to the Studio Display in order to use it to have a larger and better screen. Is that something you have tested too?
@mikemartins244
@mikemartins244 7 ай бұрын
Considering buying an Apple Studio Display... My current display is on a 5" riser on my desk, and the height adjustment allows the screen to be shifted pretty low so it's at eye level even on the riser. I'm worried that the Studio Display even on its lowest height doesn't get as low as my current monitor and that I'd be staring up at it instead of it being at eye level. Are you able to tell me the distance from the the base (e.g. desk) to the bottom of the screen on the Studio Display's lowest height setting? Can't seem to find this info. Thanks!
@JerrySchulze
@JerrySchulze 7 ай бұрын
its about 4.5". I think the tilt stand is slightly lower?
@Blazerelf
@Blazerelf 22 күн бұрын
The advantage is that you can use this with windows aswell; which studio display is not that friendly for
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