San Martin Launch A New Brand & New Watch! Jianghun War Drum Review

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Ай бұрын

San Martin have launched a new watch brand and released the first new watch! The War Drum is what it's called and the brand is Jianghun. These watches are not available on AliExpress only their dedicated website.
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@thehappywristchannel Ай бұрын

Great lume. Nice padded strap. Interesting case shape, looks like an ashtray

@bestboy897 Ай бұрын

Lol

@imaginekarma8582 Ай бұрын

Now I can’t unsee the ashtray. 😂

@lskit Ай бұрын

Definitely looks like an ashtray with a dial coated in spray-on bed liner material. It is probably durable at least. It should remain ugly for many years to come! 🙂

@RobinhoodarrowsRHA Ай бұрын

😂😂😂

@navboi12 Ай бұрын

A smoker's paradise!

@hades1127 Ай бұрын

im digging it...at least it is nor another sub or tudor homage..

@Ia.sakkakth Ай бұрын

I rather have a homage than a gigantic ugly ashtray

@JongChoongShyr Ай бұрын

Hi, It is actually (匠 Jiang) (魂 Hun), Jiang means Artisan/Craft/Smith, Hun means Soul. So it actually translates as Soul of an Artisan.

@stevenrobertson6656 Ай бұрын

Still looks like an ashtray !

@chupacabre99 Ай бұрын

And it looks like an ashtray :D

@waffle911 Ай бұрын

Yeah, I don't much mind the name, but the style of this one doesn't seem to appeal to Western tastes.

@Theflyguy522 Ай бұрын

@@stevenrobertson6656😂

@karlsenula9495 Ай бұрын

Who are these watches targeted at?

@goldfools5445 Ай бұрын

I like the branding and the name. At least it means something. A lot of traditional watch brand names might sound funny to those who only hear it for the first time. The watch design is growing on me.

@cheesychester9647 Ай бұрын

I hate it, but appreciate them trying to be creative. This is good for the industry and exciting to think about what the future holds for original, non-swiss, microbrands.

@HollyGrosvenor Ай бұрын

I bought this watch of Gary and I love it.Its build quality is excellent as are all San Martin watches are and this micro band is no exception. If we all liked the same things it would be a dull world.I would buy this brand again. 👍👍👍👍👍

@mrmagoo.3678 Ай бұрын

I really like some of the elements on this.. I'd love to see some of their future releases.

@ChristyOFaghan Ай бұрын

this one has grown on me, from seeing it the other day on your second channel - i really like the flow of the lume markings on the dial and i've no problem with that idiosyncratic hour hand which while not to everyone's taste, is very much in keeping with the rest of the piece i also enjoy the shape of that 'war drum', making it quite the solid big statement, even the lugs pairing well with the design language of it all: the onion crown is complimentary to it as well - as anything else would get lost on the larger body

@ChristyOFaghan Ай бұрын

checking the specs it really does seem designed more for their domestic market as despite the size of the drum, the strap only fits up to 19cm - seems a bit of an oversight if they're wanting to sell internationally

@Box_13 Ай бұрын

Some cool aspects, but they didn't have to jam them all into one watch. Just my opinion, but a little bit of "normal" with a bit of original would have gone a long way. Like the video format.

@osfcross Ай бұрын

I dig it. If it becomes more easily available I may get one.

@zamSEG Ай бұрын

i do hope one day you could at least make a dedicated videos visiting san martin factory and how they make their watches near future. i do really like to see how they produced their watches.

@chrisc475 Ай бұрын

That's a great idea.

@zamSEG Ай бұрын

@@chrisc475 indeed...

@sinjinadams2862 Ай бұрын

There is a really great video on KZfaq where they do a tour of the San Martin factory. I don't remember what channel did it but I'm sure you could find it.

@zamSEG Ай бұрын

@@sinjinadams2862 thak you for sharing the info sir. i'll look to it a.s.ap.

@choond Ай бұрын

Like this review style. Great review 👍

@user-cf2px2ko8y Ай бұрын

I appreciate this type of design more which while out there it is a departure from their usual rolex knock offs

@HORIZONTIMEPASSIONEOROLOGI Ай бұрын

I really like the engraving on the case back

@rickhoevenaars7833 Ай бұрын

I love the quality of my San Martin watches and like the idea of them going with a micro brand. I can even wrap my head around the unique rather awkward branding. But I’m not particularly attracted to this particular model. I will keep an eye out for future releases though.

@mrmagoo.3678 Ай бұрын

I both like....... and dislike it at the same time...I feel like I'm looking at a Fantastic watch from the Late 90's or early 2000's... This one isn't for Me tbh.....Butt!.... I'm Very interested to see what they do next!. Seems very well built though!.

@lengx.9798 Ай бұрын

Nice to see NH38! San Martin decided to not use ghost date on this new brand.

@holo2869 Ай бұрын

Watch with quality details!

@placebo1222 Ай бұрын

I've bought one. Went for the green/olive version. I love it. In daylight the it looks fantastic. The lume is superb. I like the branding. Not hiding it's origins. San Martin sounds French. China is producing some quality watches. I'm glad they are embracing the china origin. In the coming years there won't be any stigma to a Chinese watch.

@Miclantechupi Ай бұрын

That branding is..... 'unfortunate'. And the grooves not lined up with the hours would soon irritate me.

@markstanton63 Ай бұрын

Good for them. Digging that tobacco dial ...... I'm not crazy about the lugs though.

@neuman356 Ай бұрын

Love the Mondaine wall clock!

@JianghunWatch Ай бұрын

grateful!😊

@TheSara200424 Ай бұрын

I really like the design and the price isn't crazy good job San Martin on this launch

@user-sy4el9me1z Ай бұрын

New to your channel, like your style. The watch is probably not something I would buy, however it's great to see a Chinese firm producing something original. I've heard good things about the quality of San Martin watches and I think they will be a force to be reckoned with in the coming years. Chinese made is certainly not a deal breaker for me

@CanadianBeachcomber Ай бұрын

The video on their main webpage shows that there are some very interesting watch designs in the works. I haven’t purchased a San Martin because I don’t like their branding but I will be more open to this new venture and have bookmarked their site.

@DarciaSidTTV Ай бұрын

NICE DESIGN ! :D Pretty unique.

@myownbiggestfan Ай бұрын

Stylistically, it's not really my thing but I do love a lot of things about it. I like that they are wearing their Chinese roots on their sleeve. I like how well built it looks. I actually really like that hour hand. I could see myself owning a watch by these folks. If they did something with these signature elements, but without the old timey crown and the GMT-like bezel, (unless it was a GMT, natch) I could see myself going for one.

@jaymt1982 Ай бұрын

I think they are trying to offer something to people who care more about the quality of the movement and watch than just a name on the dial. I love it! It's so aggressively styled and looks well done!

@2manysigns Ай бұрын

I think hour hand looks more projectile than snowflake . I like the name . I think it's best for everyone to only be available on their site and the more original, interesting designs the better . Good video . Yeah , love the strap and very cool design . I think I'd go green dial/strap myself .

@manciclon Ай бұрын

Ok, this is different, it is amazing design ! 🤟😎🔬⌚️💷

@hattyfarbuckle Ай бұрын

Always admired NH movements (bang for buck) and Seiko for sharing them with cheaper higher spec'd competitors. Although I've yet to try a Miyota 8 or 9000 movement I know they are slimmer so wonder if StMartin and this new brand should be looking to include them to allow slimmer design options..

@caktaylor Ай бұрын

I also enjoy your more casual style videos. As to the watch, while I don't like it, I also don't hate it. I think there are too many "strong" design elements - the case, the dial, the hour hand, the crown, the strap are all very bold. If they show a little restraint in future models, they will hone in on designs with more mass appeal (assuming that is what they want). For example, if they had put that dial in an otherwise more traditional watch, I think people would (in general) be much more positive about it.

@jayjay9932 Ай бұрын

I get the design, but this is something a character in a childrens' fantasy movie would wear like in Johnny Scissor's hand, Labyrinth or Alice in wonderland. Pretty unique.

@RageAgainstTime Ай бұрын

It's weird looking. I like the case back. Great video, thanks!

@rostam79 11 күн бұрын

This watch has character. It speaks to me.

@daxcheng Ай бұрын

This is a step in the right direction. Original design comes with risks and I think this will sell well for the non enthuse market. I know I would love it when I started collecting but not now. Love the dial and would get it on a more traditional case

@tommyswayze2168 Ай бұрын

I actually really like the look of the watch. Im fairly inexperienced with watches but i like the look of this . Im a diver guy but im intrested

@jamesblonde2271 Ай бұрын

Its aimed at the Asian market obviously, if I wanted one I wouldn't mind so much.

@karlsenula9495 Ай бұрын

So i have read a few of the comments on here and i have a couple of questions. 1) which market are these watches aimed at? Western buyers a domestic market or other countries? 2) could this merely be a low risk testing ground for new San Martin designs?

@TheGlazzzmann Ай бұрын

I agree the branding is not the best for the world market. Watch is very interesting and looks high quality, but the name sounds more inline with a $125 to $175 watch. Build the brand name with reduced pricing. I would like this watch from an unknown brand but not at this price. Nice review.

@theultimatesuhak Ай бұрын

I think it's exactly the right move. People always said San Martin had great quality but they had no original designs and a strange brand that couldn't hide the fact they were "just a Chinese Aliexpress manufacturer". If they made anythin less eccentric, people would said it looked like some other watch. Well, this is definitely original, high quality, unapologetically Chinese and not an Aliexpress brand. Too bad they had to design it that weird cause it just doesn't look great.

@chrishelmstetter5347 Ай бұрын

So I got part of this watch. It looks like an OG Trench Watch. But the bezel is hard to take in. If they went with a standard bezel. This would look ok

@TheShotenZenjin Ай бұрын

Not for me personally, but if Zelos had made this watch (and Zelos has made some fairly "unusual" watches), I feel there would have been a somewhat different response. Maybe the San Martin group are satisfied to sell mainly to the Chinese market...they have a few consumers there, I believe !

@paperback10 Ай бұрын

Like this style of video.

@seederi Ай бұрын

I kind of like it more than before, still not huge fan of texts on dial but green color dial option is making me think hard, guess i'll have to wait for a while

@ChrisCorkrey Ай бұрын

I love the new review style. It reminds me of your older videos (like the ones where you’d drink couple mugs of “tea”) but with more polish. The brand name could be worse… no confusing letter combinations and a decent logo. The watch isn’t my style and I agree with another commenter’s description of it as “Soviet Era Albanian”.

@Theflyguy522 Ай бұрын

It looks very nicely made, unusual lugs, can’t decide whether I like it or not… name doesn’t really bother me. Now someone has said it looks like an ashtray, I can’t unsee it though! 😂

@giancarloliucci4104 Ай бұрын

Da possessore di San Martin ( ne ho 3 ma, acquistati 4 in pochi mesi) sono assolutamente favorevole alla produzione di orologi che si discostino nettamente dagli homage. Apprezzo la qualità che mettono nelle loro produzioni ed hanno guadagnato la mia fiducia a tal punto che se produrranno un modello originale con le caratteristiche che mi piacciono e con calibri più sofisticati di nh34/35/36/38 tranquillamente sarei disponibile a spendere qualcosa in più di quanto mediamente attualmente spendo per un San Martin.

@mell3109 Ай бұрын

Interesting you called it the pebble as I have a huge urge to skim it across a pond, best use for it!

@RandallSlick Ай бұрын

I like that a lot. Very nice dial, purposeful lugs/strap and big onion crown. I suspect the branding might suit CDM more than international since it sounds a bit off. On the other had that hasn't stopped many Swiss brands I guess (looking at you Formex.)

@Ambibbly Ай бұрын

It's like a pocketwatch but with straps added

@johnpoulter Ай бұрын

At least they're being honest and sticking to their cultural roots without embarrassment. The trouble is that even the most worthy designer or artist will be tainted with the brush ' Oh, it's Chinese..' which is unfair. A generation of cheap goods with a not very good reputation has come at a price for the good guys. Fair play to them. Not fond of the crown on this, but hey, hope they keep at it.

@dgar715 Ай бұрын

1. Love the “stream-of-consciousness-style review. It feels like a conversation with a fellow watch-nerd. ❤ 2. Love San Martin branching out into a micro-brand with a true focus on original designs. 3. The watch quality seems AMAZING; textured sandwich dial, awesome lume, beautiful case finishing, gorgeous leather strap. 4. The branding is a little unusual and (IMHO) a bit off-putting. Not digging it… 5. The. Watch. Is. UGLY. Deal breaker. Love the good work, Gary!

@ikeman5774 Ай бұрын

Something different, something new. The size to me is big and those lugs are very different. The fun part will be watching it evolve, unless this is a one and done design.

@mikecara8181 Ай бұрын

Make good watches for sure

@wayneious Ай бұрын

I like it as a new daily wear watch. I'd like to see the guts but I think I'm going to pick one up.

@karlsenula9495 Ай бұрын

With San Martin's pedigree comes high expectations.

@Celebmacil Ай бұрын

I actually really like the design, far more so than most of the San Martin releases, which is a brand I'm not really a fan of. I like this thing. It's cool.

@oliver1965 Ай бұрын

Review style is good. Get going 🚀

@WatchtheTime Ай бұрын

Like you, I like San Martin mate but I can’t say I’m mad about this one. The name is a no for me + it seems like a watch with a bit of an identity crisis. Great work as ever man 👍👍

@ilikewatches Ай бұрын

Thanks Simon…

@Jason-hv4eu Ай бұрын

Good review! I agree with all of your points. I was excited to hear that San Martin was launching a micro brand. The name is weird. However, it is not a dealbreaker. I do not like the design this watch. More importantly, the model name, War Drum, makes me curious of their motives. Maybe, if the Geo Political landscape was not ready to explode the name would’ve been more acceptable.

@Professional_Youtube_Commenter Ай бұрын

Caseback isn't a mix of brush and polish. It's in fact it's a mix of bead blast, polished and brushed. They make the mistake of "specs make the watch". It's well specced alright, just doesn't work well in any way

@SouvikChakrabortyMusic Ай бұрын

Looks weirdly cool.

@Mr1121628 Ай бұрын

They’ve already made almost this exact watch under the San Martin brand. Can’t find which model it is now, but it has a bunch of bolts on it and a black mother of pearl dial.

@andyholton7959 Ай бұрын

I like it 👌🏻

@paulkukula6541 Ай бұрын

Quite like the watch case & leather band. Like the movement. Don’t like the hour hand at all & don’t particularly like the indices & face layout. More traditional hands & dial would pass for me. Good review.

@waffle911 Ай бұрын

Don't much mind the name Jiang Hun. Looks like they had a lot of interesting ideas, but couldn't quite tie them all together-at least for Western tastes. Maybe it'll be popular domestically?

@Hrethgir Ай бұрын

I like the dial. Not a fan of the case. Will be curious to see what else they come out with.

@statlerwaldorf7130 Ай бұрын

Like the style of video Gary, erm, the watch is okay, but not for me to be honest, maybe the next one, I will wait and see.

@mattsmiley8156 Ай бұрын

It actually sits really well on the wrist. Which I wouldn't have guessed! The case and lugs look great. But that dial is a no go for me. I hope it's not indicative of what their new line is going to be.

@glenh4971 Ай бұрын

I love San Martin quality. I am like you though, I prefer traditional watch designs. However, I hope this new brand catches on.

@mojoe7951 Ай бұрын

An acquired taste for sure but it’s good to see someone doing something different. The strap does look very good.

@Fiachraraven Ай бұрын

This new micro brand is actually made in Switzerland.

@jbl500 Ай бұрын

1.I like it. 2. Branding. The naming is odd for the West world. But the dial should have only the symbol. 3. Have a good package and tell us a story about the brand 4. Hour hand, should be round to simulate the drum sticks. Not square. 5. Love the case is unique not boring.

@tizombie Ай бұрын

Watch is ok, do not like the “stick” lugs. Interesting launch model and I am curious how it will do in sales. Bold choice.

@Chancer Ай бұрын

This ain't gonna take off.

@StevenPope-qn3qb Ай бұрын

I think it’s a little like the very expensive Ikepod Seaslug

@michaelbell9811 Ай бұрын

I don't own a San Martin watch, but I hear the quality is excellent and I'd hope the quality of this would be, too. I'm also interested in them being original designs. But...this is not for me. Actually, I think it's hideous. With the numbers round the outside, it's like it's a divers bezel, but it's not, plus with the 200m of water resistance and the hands it's almost like they started designing a divers watch, then changed their mind half way through but didn't change the basic design and decided to make do with it. I don't like the dial and I've seen a similar style of hands before on a San Martin watch and didn't like it then, either. Regarding the name, I'm not that bothered by it and the strap looks really good. This style of video is fine, I like them on your other channel, and it's fine here.

@Professional_Youtube_Commenter Ай бұрын

This one tops the seiko bottle cap as the most bizarre design by respectable watch brand

@thomaspowers6671 Ай бұрын

I like it. It’s a fugly design but it’s not the usual cookie cutter stuff you see around. Bulbous ashtrays? Why the heck not!

@Jim-wx8dh Ай бұрын

Agree the strap is quite nice. IMO it appears to be the nicest part of the watch, but not a fan of the design of the watch or the branding. Perhaps the target audience for the microbrand isn’t the US and Europe?

@ilikewatches Ай бұрын

I think they are targeting the US and Europe..

@bigriceburner Ай бұрын

I'm in the United States and believe it or not everything does not revolve around my country are any European country. I'm sure they have their own thing going on along with their own markets. We always complain about things they write on watches. But they are the ones who are building watches. I just always get this sense that people think they are better than others somehow. I don't mean you in particular so please don't take offense. Personally I think they have the right to put anything they want on their watch. That's just my two cents on that. I like the shape of the case but I don't like how they made it so busy. I, like you, appreciate standard regular designs the overall case shape is appealing, they just need to tone down and normalize the face of the thing. I would definitely buy that strap separately if it came in 20 mm.

@killerdove123 Ай бұрын

@@bigriceburnerThanks for taking the time to type exactly what I was thinking. It’s particularly disheartening to see a watchmaker being lambasted for being brave enough to come up with an ethnic name for their brand. Pretty sure none of us here even know what it means; it’s pretty likely that it means something dear to the company. It perfectly explains why companies are compelled to keepWestern-sounding names (e.g San Martin) for their brands. The closed-minded bigotry is appalling.

@stevenkelby2169 Ай бұрын

@@ilikewatchesWith a name that Europeans and Americans can't pronounce? 😂

@IskanderVFX Ай бұрын

@@killerdove123 it's common sense, if they're targeting the Chinese market or Chinese speaking community on other countries, us, eu, etc, it's perfectly fine, nothing wrong with that, but if you want to speak to western general population, a western sounding name is a better choice, it's facts, nothing against the Chinese people, at least this specific model is kind of ugly so I don't care that much, but just imagine they come up with an awesome original design and a name like that? everyone will get the Cadisen Proxima Next copy instead

@flyingrocket3879 Ай бұрын

San Martin is always quality

@shj2000 Ай бұрын

I like the design. Evokes strong Asian vibes. And that case back is amazing. A bold effort and a big departure from what I've seen of their product line. But, would I wear it? Probably not. Maybe the target market for this watch is not so much the Western consumer. Dunno.

@peternic1 Ай бұрын

Q: "Will you change the brand from Jianghun??" A: No, definitely not"" I image that will change pretty quickly when they find they aren't selling any Jianghun's. I'd suggest that's a terrible name for the "western market".

@ravipeiris7602 Ай бұрын

Nice watch... In 38mm please 🙏

@WERT2025 Ай бұрын

I like the design. Brand name.. yeah I got used to some questionable names on aliexpress. They probably want to emphasize it's Chinese origin

@DavidUKesb Ай бұрын

Very nice indeed and a radical design but simply too large.

@coldude2559 Ай бұрын

Not sure 😕 🤔

@alexprendido2023 Ай бұрын

Loce the dial, the strap and the case, but not the bezel nor the lugs / lug to lug dimensions

@vladimirpenev9127 Ай бұрын

I hope there will be a matching bracelet in the future.

@fontyyy Ай бұрын

Lesson one The brand name Rolex was chosen purely because it sounds good and it's hard to mess up in an language/accent. Learn from those who've already done what you're trying to do.

@lonegroover Ай бұрын

I really hate that strap but the head itself is very appealling. Me likey.

@adk7962 Ай бұрын

I’m genuinely excited about this brand but unfortunately not too excited about this design. They need to dial it back and go more traditional for their first few I think. This seems like a 4th or 5th offering design. Unless San Martin is their “traditional” offerings, and this is their “unique” wing of the building. Thanks!

@aidanconroy966 Ай бұрын

It's too big for my 6.5 inch wrist, but overall I like the design. People complain about Chinese companies doing photocopier-style "clomages;" well, here they're going in their own direction. And this may be an unpopular opinion, but I also like the name. If you're going to push the reputation of Chinese watch companies out of the common perception of those "clomages," with strange Mad-Libs style mashups of English nouns, you want a Chinese name, I think. I appreciate that they are leaning into native-language branding.

@ATIWatchReviews Ай бұрын

It looks too novelty/gimmicky for mainstream appeal, not a fan of the name or branding either but I don't doubt it'll be quite well made if it's to the same SM standards. The black variant on their website looks better. I want original designs but not too wild lol, good vid though Gary

@ignaciopadilla5150 Ай бұрын

Interesting watch, not for me or style for a lot of people I think. I really think the brand name is going to cost them A lot of sales. I also believe that when someone starts something they should start with a much simpler design then introduce your wild design style. I prefer 100% more any other watch San Martin has made in the past.

@gerrylindley7874 Ай бұрын

I like the exit away from their standard cases San Martin uses to something like this. The diameter of 42 is too large though but I’m encouraged what’s going to follow. The brand name might be appropriate for their geographical location but for the rest of us it has no meaning and I wish they’d used a brand symbol instead. Also I think this would’ve “smashed it” if it was a 36 or 38 case diameter.

@jeffee1933 Ай бұрын

Man, I was really really hoping for better branding than San Martin. Their branding was literally the reason I never bought a SM. I just can’t see myself buying anything with this branding either. The watch however is kind of cool. Very Steam Punk. Not for me personally but I can see the appeal

@lampsblues67 Ай бұрын

What a shocker!! One would of thought that San Martin would of had a pretty good idea of what the market wants, but instead they just built this! Great manufacturers, lousy marketers and lets face it, watches are easily 50% marketing.