@@hochspannunglebensgefahr5339 You misunderstood my post entirely.

@@ansubchaudry2975 agree...

Valuable things are built to last and worth servicing and maintaining. Yes the entry.hurts. It is what it is.

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Legend himself came to approve the message 😁

The prophet himself

🤣🤣🤣

I wonderd if Nico would chime in 😆

God tier comment from the man himself.

Lies again? Porn Hub USD SGD

Damn... you are on legend for noticing that. What a piece of shit that was? 😂😂😂

Lmao. Nice catch.

and craves Nautilus lol

Well, I guess he means that he focuses more on the unpopular side to analyze it. I do this when in doubt, to asses more the cons than pros.

Well Rolexes are only popular to 80+ overweight men who chase little boys on a beach in Thailand.

@@js0988 what

@@bbrizs Have you ever seen anyone wear a Rolex that wasn't over 80 and wearing too small speedos on a beach in Thailand?

Most KZfaq guys are so pretentious

Wellllll I think he’s talking about the general public here, not enthusiasts, to be fair. And the explorer is just the most well-liked Rolex among enthusiasts who either prefer an under-the-radar look or just can’t afford something like a GMT Master-II lol.

Not fair at all: another commenter mentioned the Explorer being an “under the radar” piece - very true. It is certainly not one of the INSANELY popular watches like the Submariners or Daytonas that everyone gravitates toward. But there are two other things to consider: 1) an awful lot of watch collecting “snobs” do have an open disdain for Rolex (not an older or established Swiss house but a “British” brand born in 1905); and 2) Adrian recently sold his high-demand No-Date Sub, opting instead for a not-so “mainstream” Tudor Black Bay (which some might argue is the poor man’s Sub) on the basis of build quality, style and other principles.

I would argue the most liked Rolex model would be the Sub or a Datejust

@@tylertaxol6417 its definitely the daytona

Thats what i thought too 🤦

Glad I'm not the only person to see that lazy finish job.

It’s crazy isn’t it. People would lose their minds if this was on a £6k Rolex, let alone a £10k watch.

@@BarkandJack yes it's crazy, people would loose there minds if Rolex tried to palm off watches at that price with shoddy workmanship. The sort of people in general who buy Hublot watches are the super rich, they must wake up in the morning and look at there lives and go "there's something missing 🤔 from my everything"....... good sense walks out the door and they go on the hunt for a Hublot, and after that......the collection of Hublot's happen. By that point there's no helping them.

Now I think about it 🤔 it's a sickness to get to that Hubot faze.

Couldn't agree more! 🤣

Yeah nowadays its the Pateks, RMs and Rolexes.. all in steel of course.. the gold peeps are lame.. hehe jk.. but about a decade ago, it was the skinny ppl with huge offshores and hublots

IKR!!!

Probably since Rolex is the most known luxury watch brand. So more people will notice it when these people show off their watch.

@@rfn I don't really think that's the reason... Rolex doesn't really stand out much. The average person thinks a Rolex looks like a million other watches. It's only when you wear something that has a unique case or dial that people notice a watch on you. Rolex is about as vanilla as you can get.

Funny thing. Titanium may be expensive, but you can get a solar powered, radio controlled Casio, in full titanium. For £ 225 😁

You blow your money

@@maxmoller with Zaratsu finish

Bill Gates wears Casio proud.

@@armandodebruin1589 A marlin to be precise

AMEN 20 for the AP and 28K for the Nautilus are totally moronoic. Most of the cost in any swiss product comes from the labor a skilled worker here gets around 6000 to 7000 CHF a month a bit over $7200 but that still doesn't make any sense for the Nautilus that isn't really better finished to cost 8k more. And if you couldn't sell the AP and Nautiluses for more than you get them nobody would buy them just like Hublots. They are better watches but still not worth the money.

I agree. Unless for the material used, nearly all watches are over priced, but they can be because most people buy they to show off, like women and their handbags. Every heard a women justify spending thousands of pounds on a bag made from leather?

What are you talking about have you ever seen a Rolex movement? To say it’s undecorated its either your being disingenuous or you’ve never seen a Rolex movement before. Rolex does a phenomenal job decorating and adjusting their movements and put huge amounts of money into research and development of their in house made technology that powers and makes these movements accurate and robust. You can’t even compare the two company’s their not in the same league. Rolex isn’t overpriced but Hublot is. Rolex is an investment that actually makes you money when you sell, Hublot you will take a huge loss.

@@JL-rx7ou isn't Rolex controlling the supply, to make sure that they don't lose value

You won’t lose money on them, and it seems that your a little jealous of people who are wealthier then you.

when I went to Malaysia, Hublot was really building an entire expo at a mall plaza, Pavillion mall Kuala Lumpur if I remember correctly, bragging about their special edition watch for FIFA world cup. I believe their marketing is very loud and aggressive in some parts of the country. that is when I think Hublot as a brand always spends so much in marketing but none in the watch itself. Just a fancy "fashion watch".

if they were really so hated like this video claims they would be out of business.

@@danokeeffe848 nothing wrong with the watch, it is just not getting as much value as you spend. that is the point of this video. If any people liked it they just buy it without hesitation and ignore other people opinion. that is why Hublot is still standing today.

@@danokeeffe848 longer explanation is = combined with aggressive marketing, they could really sell. Lets say Hublot marketing team can approach 100k people a day, they sell 100 watch, it means their effective rate is 1:1000, while other watch maybe rolex, only need to approach 10k people a day, sell 100 also. the effective rate of rolex is 1:100. Well it means hublot sell the same watch as rolex, people buy because of aggressive marketing, not in the quality of the watch itself. (Disclaimer, it is just an example as I am pointing out in the video)

And what other brand (excluding Hublot) can you think of which is all about showing off wealth? :-)

I actually let out a laugh when he said that

@@glostergloster6945 Hah, almost every mainstream watch brand, not just a Rolex to be honest... I have a Moser Pioneer Green Fumé- generally flies under the commercial radar...

Regarding the screws not lining up. Rolex do far more expensive watches and there is no guarantee the crown will line up.

@@glostergloster6945 exactly!!

I say the same. RO and nautilus are absolutely not worth thier price, not even a fraction, I mean a ML Aikon is lesser in quality, but for 2000 usd it makes a lot of sense.

You cannot say Royal Oak is overpriced. That watch created an entirely new segment. Nautilus is it’s copycat by its creator. Then Bvlgari edition, etc etc lots of iterations till it finally comes to Hublot 🤢 where you simply wanna vomit

The royal oak was never"hated" l was in the business when the royal oak was presented at basel...we thougth: crazy 2980.00 sfr for a steelwatch. To remeber a rolex day date was below 1000.00 sfr.a omega consyation 800.00 But it was an instant hit! We had waitinglistes for over 100 royal oaks within 10 days after basel fair!

Well, the watch prices will continue to skyrocket because it's an effective money laundering vehicle. You can smuggle tons of money globally right on your wrist and nobody even notices.

Prices went up because the Swiss Franc has become much much stronger since the 90s

Richard Mille is a marketing genius though. Makes essentially plastic watches with less waterproofing and strength, let alone accuracy, than most 50 dollar seikos. Puts anywhere from 250k-1million price tag on them, gives some away to some celebs, dumb rappers and basketball players to market for him...and boom, you have a "luxury" brand. Crap quality at high end price, marketed to dumb people. Its like the modern Louis Vuitton bag. Lesser quality than in their past. Cheap material thats practically canvas with spray rubber, marketed as "leather", that practically falls apart if you set it on floor, in the sun, or get it wet. But they switched from actual quality, to marketing just the old LV name to the rapper community. People who think "expensive" is quality and just want to post pictures on their instagram with something "expensive" to shine. .

@@JesusPerez-iw3ey RM look like toys and their prices are unjustified. But they at least, make an effort to create some unique looking movements and they are supposedly very "innovative" in regards to their shock resistance. I have no idea if these claims are warranted or not, but hublot seems like an absolute scam in comparison. With RM you're at least paying for something that had a shred of ingenuity involved. Those hublot watches looked like wish pieces.

@Clay1404 well if you're playing tennis why are you even wearing a watch? It doesn't really serve any practical purpose other than potentially slow you down or annoy you. You won't need a chronograph or a time keeping device on a tennis track. They don't look look at all. They look like toys. The movements are nice, I appreciate those. The watch cases are very large bulky and look like they're props from the fantastic 4. Unlike you I've never worn an RM so I can't speak to any of those things.

@Clay1404 Yes the skeleton movements are very nice. I just feel like, when you make retail watches in the range of 80-500K (i believe they are), having their primary benefit be something that really doesn't make much sense anyway, to actually use the watch while doing sports - it's a bit dumb. Imagine wearing your 200K watch playing football or tennis. It doesn't make any sense. It would just get in your way, let alone be subject to undue wear with an item that's more expensive than most apartments. It quite literally is *the most* useless piece of technology in watchmaking. That's not to say that an AP or Patek or rolex isn't (because of their pricing in particular) but they're a far cry from the likes of RM and actually do serve the function of being discreet time keeping devices - that also happen to, in pateks case be better finished. All mechanical watches are essentially useless from a practical standpoint, but RM are just *the most* useless ones. Is my opinion. For my money, i would enjoy a fine nomos watch, a BB58 or a GS. All very competitively priced and all excessively accurate and well put together. They provide plenty satisfaction in mechanical curiosity and material finishing, all at 5% the price of an RM. And that's not to discredit your point, off course it's nice to be light and wearable. That's my number one focus. But plenty of 2-5K watches are impressively thin and light.

@@JesusPerez-iw3ey some People buy RMs, because they know there are Partys hosted by RM where you need to have one to enter. They buy the watches because they know they can connect with people who have money and maybe make some deals. In that perspective its an great investment, as a watch itself i don’t think so.

Erm what AM has a Ford engine?

@@Jabber-ig3iw When they were owned by Ford, what happened was they started mixing design teams and engineers. Basically, Aston Martin’s V12 is just two Ford Duratec V6s placed end to end. The block, heads and crankshaft are all new, but the bore, stroke and other elements are identical. Also I guess you could say it's not even Ford since it was designed by Mazda.

well the bentley W12's and V8's used on there continental GT, Bentayga and flying spur models are from VW, engineered designed and manufactured. the chassis used on there bentayga is shared with multiple VW group SUV's like VW touareg, porsche cayenne and audi Q8.

@@Jabber-ig3iw any of them that run V8 or V12 engines use Ford blocks built in Germany.

Now Bentley is Audi's dog, but the engine is kinda "unique".yeah,None uses the same engine, but it was based on Audi's. and Aston is completely shit.They just got the V6 from AMG, but they managed to weaken it🤦‍♂️. Even sorta "Sports Car" Aston Martin vantage is losing in race to AMG c63s with the same engine. Aston is shit, Bentley is near

I agree. For awhile i channeled my ignorant inner watch snob and sneered at these, but then i had to admit i love the bold styling. and the people who choose them are yeah, picking something flashy and expensive to put on their wrist, but for every person that actually has heard of hublot, 20+ or more know rolex, so this is more of a personal choice that shows taste. they could go the easy route and flash a rolex for status, but they like this. And so do i.

@@emu314159 If you want bold styling there are a lot of microbands out there that do a stellar job for a reasonable price.

Afaik bolts are usually tightened to a certain torque or something like torque x and half a turn more. So a bolt's end position might look random. But in such an exposed position they look all over the place. In this case I'd choose bolts that have more rotational symmetries or check with my lawyer if I can align them in a different pattern.

@@jochenkraus7016 agreed with you, maybe a hexagonal rather than (-) would be great, those misalign is so easy to spot because the bolt (-) itself

i felt like i should hate the whole, "ooh, shiny, lookit lookit i can spend money on a flashy watch," and for awhile i was able to keep the sneer on my face, but really I have to admit I love the bold design, and yeah, the only person i've met wearing a hublot was definitely a flex the status guy (he told me how much it costs, i think,) but you have to give it to them that at least they picked something other than a Rolex. Everyone knows that Rolex means you have money, but not so many know hublot. Which no doubt is why he told me how much it costs, which I already knew.)

You said there are different dials and bands. They are different.

@@beck204 you must not have picked up on that I was eluding to the cases were all the same exact case. I was pretty trashed that day. So, its totally possible there was actually only 1 watch in the case. 🤣 Its also possible that he actually said., "These are for a different style of watch wearer."

Where you trashed when typing this? If they where different variations then they where different styles, no?

Smh😂

What's the more underrated watch brands then?

Hublots pretty ass but I don’t really consider that attention to detail thats just a design choice from them, they don’t need to copy a royal oak its not hard to center screws into a circle and most luxury watches details are on a micro scale.

The reason for that is that they’re real screws whereas in the royal oak they are not screws but nuts.

@@AbcdEfgh-sq2tf Hublot should be competing on the same level as middle range Seiko tbh…

mate even a pagani wish is like 100$ has the screws all the same way

Not dissimilar from Rolex in some respects. While it obviously has a huge following among watch fans, it's generally the go to brand for non watch people who want to show they have money.

I would argue it's precisely for the watch enthusiast - I.e the person who doesn't mind their watch not holding value because they derive enjoyment from their hobby It's very easy to say you like a sports rolex knowing that it effectively costs you nothing to own. Hublot owners appreciate the modern design and materials and are willing to pay for it is all.

Or, they're for people who likes Hublot.

@@rajmehta6210 except for hublot the quality does not match the price

Panerai is rapidly becoming a hublot like brand

Not the hublot

Well, they atleast try out new stuff, and their craftsmanship is really good. Of course, still very flashy, but once u are getting used to the looks, u will find pretty awesome things in their lineup. If their are worth the money, well thats another story

@RA CW Riiight...because Rolex their heritage is so rich right. Rolex was definitely pumped with innovation before the 1970. Like the Daytona (does Valjoux ring you any bells because it should) or the pre-1530 calibers. Or before incorporating Aegler to justify "in-house movements". Give it a rest. I hate people bashing on Hublot while parroting the same excuse of a praise about Rolex. Both Rolex and Hublot are on the same page and this star shining sentence of yours: " Hublot is a pretentious brand for pretentious people. " Can exactly be said about Rolex.

@@hodb3906 Bro Hublot literally have the plan to fake it until they make it. Even from the start of the brand their tactics are: copy a popular trend Use sturdy but cheap materials Use a cheap movement Sell for a bomb For a start Rolex have been innovators in the watch space (albeit a long time ago) and have created many unique timeless pieces. The have earnt their reputation, earnt their prestige and the market has naturally inflated their products over time so that new models can reasonably be priced high... Hublot just decided to stick the watch at 10k and fake the luxury until enough wealthy idiots own one and it pumps their brand...

@@randomshotz13 You are just parroting the same thing everyone has said before. “Copy a popular trend” What trend? Let me guess. “TheY lOoK LiKe THe RoYaL OaK”. What’s next? Are you going to claim that Zenith El Primero chronomaster sport is a trend copy of the daytona? “Sturdy but cheap materials” Like what? “Using cheap movements” Imagine thinking that every movement from ETA is cheap. Just because they’re not in-house doesn’t mean they are cheap. If you can tell me the difference between putting an ETA movement in a Hublot and Rolex having incorporated an entire production site under company ownership to do the exact same thing except claiming now that it’s “in-house”, I’ll give you a point. You tend to forget that Rolex still mass produces certain watch models like the date-just and the submariner(date). Almost everything Rolex claims to be the first, have innovated or achieved were already done by previous watchmakers by sometimes even preceding decades. Or that there is always a caveat. Perfect example is Rolex their claim of the Oyster being the first waterproof wristwatch however that’s bs. The first waterproof wrist watch was the Tavannes submarine wristwatch. There are so many beautiful watchmakers who deserve your praise and Rolex isn’t one of them. You either accept it or you don’t. Neither is Hublot and I’m not trying to make you like Hublot btw but I’m just playing devil’s advocate because there is always a foul stench of hypocrisy when it comes to this.

@@randomshotz13 most brands copied hublot.. rubber strap..

Why rado?

Well said 👏

I was in a watch store buying a GO SeaQ and another guy was with his son and they were looking at Hublots to upgrade the one he was wearing. I was thinking why is he even considering this brand when there are "better" watches at lesser price points. He was a tough-looking tattooed dude and the watches seemed to fit his attitude and style. There are people who aspire to Hublot and would laugh at Rolex wearers as mainstream sellouts.

@@yankeesandgiants1886 agree..

Watch enthusiasts are dudes who wear boring shirts with jeans everyday

@@d444 hahaha

10:04

I couldn’t believe it when I saw that.

Honestly, their Carrera chrono, Monaco, Monza, and Autavia are pretty great watches. Even their Aqua Racers and Formula 1s are perfectly inoffensive watches. Never understood the Tag hate.

@@JupiterTarts i love the autavia, not a fan of the rather large proportions though

Jenni did a good on tag already. Summed it up well

@@darienilham Understandable. I'm fortunate that my 7.25" wrists make 42mm a reasonably tasteful size. I imagine if my wrists were any smaller, I wouldn't care for many Tag offerings.

@@JupiterTarts I'm looking at the longines spirit as an alternative though, would probably fit my 6.5 incher better 😂

TAG-Heuer quality at Rolex + prices.

Both brands under LVMH… so the analogy works.

I am a millenial (born in 81) and hate hublot.

@@Almarillionyou’re a year out of being a millennial.

Hmm, Hublot targets more niche market (net famer, grey money) than Rolex. So I would say it’s ok if you know your target audience. If you don’t, Rolex makes sure you always get noticed and respected.

exactly ture!!

Royal oak is stainless steel costs them probably less than 1000$ to produce beginning to end. Hublot probably costs them 500$ to make

@ navarrolevel7 That’s why design matters. Every time I saw someone trying to showing off his stainless steel black dial sub, I laughed. To an untrained eye (99% of population), a black ss sub never sparkle any reaction, while a green or blue sub does, especially on a yellow gold bracelet. If you have some money to burn and have no idea what to buy, just buy a flashy Rolex with a gold bracelet. Brutal but simply works.

@@uropy totally agreed. I got the black sub, nobody cares. I got a two tone bluesy one gets lots of comments and compliments. A blue bezel blue dial Davosa gets lots of compliments. I actually don’t love the black sub, it’s so boring without any color.

+1

+10000

Sorry, but there’s nothing cheaper looking than an rm to me 🤦‍♂️🤮

@@EscapePlan97 RMs have far more engineering and hand finishing than a mass produced Patek but PP still gets worshipped 🤷🏼‍♂️

@@GODOFLIQUOR pateks are shit nowadays but people are not ready to understand this yet

This. If you would ask the „watch guys“ on KZfaq (hating on Hublot because of ETA movements in some of there watches) to name the name of the movement in their watches, 98% of them could not even tell it. Because they are just hopping on the hate train but do not care for movements at all.

lmao

Not only that, but most of the watch channels are clones: all have sport Rolexes at their core, all like some other brands as satellites, and all aspire to the Holy Trinity grails. The same movie over and over.

@@let0atreides 100%

@@let0atreides you should check out “you’re terrific” or something like that. Dude has a great watch channel.

exactly the same, both are fashion watches, hublot is just fancier because it is high priced.

But I do hate that the bolts do not line, and it must be done intentionally, as it is not that hard to design it to be at a specific position when correctly tightened

Classic and traditional?

@@altairferoli”The bolts do not line”. This makes more sense to me. It’s either torqued correctly or it’s not…

@@smoll.miniaturesmaybe classy would be a better word but you know what I meant

@@smoll.miniatures that's the thing, it should be possible to machine the screw holes and the screws themselves to be correctly torqued on a specific position when we're talking about watches with 5 digit price tags

Dubai...

Hv u been at the rolex store its worst

@@cajee123ify I’m guessing you are a hublot owner I went to buy a Rolex in Dubai whilst I was there take holiday to buy a Rolex submariner by no means a really expensive Rolex and the they were really nice to me I don’t know what you’re on about

It’s Dubai - a trash dump wanna be paradise. Not Hublot. Here in US, as owner of over $250k in Hublots, I get invited to events, concerts, parties, and social events. Very nice company and people.

Can you reveal some deets on how customers were treated by Hublot?

You look like an extremely optimistic ginger version of Johnny Sins

Yes because he does not buy into Hublot's story🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️Also he talks about Bentley and is seemingly complete unaware that Bentley no longer is a British luxury car maker but part of the Volkswagen group.....Sleepy Adrian with the sheepish look

@@deckard9756 that might be true but don't let company ownership get in the way of where the cars are still made. Vauxhall has one of the largest manufacturing plants in Europe parked right next to Luton Airport - it's owned by PSA and Fiat since January this year. I rest my case.

"Hublot got him" will be engraved on his tombstone 🪦⚰☠

Amen

Hate keeps you poor

oh I know a painter, he is better at starting world war than paint!

And grand seiko

I bought both Jlc superior quality but rolex doubled in price make of that what you will!

I went in to the authorized dealer at the end of last year to look at and ultimately purchase a JLC Reverso finally, then ended up ordering and receiving a month or 2 later the new Rolex OP 41… I’m going to go back and look at the Reverso again soon and hopefully the story goes as it’s supposed to… or maybe I’ll order another Rolex, who knows.

Nope to Rolex. I would rather get Grand Seiko instead.

@@ed7384 JLC is good value on the used market. Not exactly cheap to service but undeniably beautiful and well finished.

Big bang looks cheap and nasty. Doesn't even have numbers