Could Top Gun's Darkstar be hiding a real aircraft?

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Last month, Sandboxx News broke the story that Lockheed Martin’s legendary Skunk Works team was directly involved in the development of a full-sized mockup of the hypersonic Darkstar aircraft featured in Top Gun: Maverick.
There seems to be much more to this story than a cool-looking imaginary airplane, and the truth is, Darkstar may not be as fictional as you think. In fact, Lockheed Martin has been working on just such an aircraft for a long time now… And although they’ve purged their website of any mention of it, we managed to dig up some interesting bits of evidence.
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Further Reading:
The full story on Sandboxx News: www.sandboxx.us/blog/is-there...
‘Top Gun: Maverick’ producer says Darkstar looked so real it fooled China: www.sandboxx.us/blog/top-gun-...
Darkstar: Is 'Top Gun's' Maverick flying an SR-72?: www.sandboxx.us/blog/darkstar...
Citations:
Mayhem: aviationweek.com/defense-spac...
Mayhem ROI: www.govconwire.com/2022/03/af...
WayBack Machine Links: web.archive.org/web/201803010...
Lockheed Martin's Darkstar webpage: lockheedmartin.com/topgun
2018 O'Banion Report: sofrep.com/news/lockheed-mart...
Bloomberg Quote: www.bloomberg.com/news/articl...
SR-72 Tech Demonstrators in 2017: aviationweek.com/aerospace/am...
Palmdale Plant Development: www.dailynews.com/2021/08/18/...
Wired's SR-72 coverage in 2007: www.wired.com/2007/06/like-al...

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@richardbriscoe8563
@richardbriscoe8563 Жыл бұрын
The SR-71 had “dual cycle” engines. What no one talks about is thermal management at hypersonic velocities. You’ll recall the X-15 program which explored extreme velocities with ablative coatings, but experienced structural damage anyway. It’s not just engine temperatures.
@AEON.
@AEON. Жыл бұрын
The SR-71 was introduced in 1966 and is touted as the fastest jet in the world to this day - a rocket is not a jet. And for anyone to think that we have not already destroyed this record time and time again - is just asinine - it's 2022.
@JJ7Redick
@JJ7Redick Жыл бұрын
@@AEON. this is my exact argument! I'm confident we had this tech figured out on paper before the turn of the century, however what likely continued to hold us back after that was computer power. Well, we've certainly got the computer power taken care of now. Remember when the B-2 Spirit bomb flew for 20 years before anyone knew it even existed? One day in like 1997 the US govt was like oh yeah by the way, here's some tech that literally didn't exist yesterday to any of you, but to us is 20 years old. They still haven't told us what replaced the B-2 as 'super secret aircraft in service we dont know about'. We don't even know what tech we actually held in the 90s, let alone 2022.
@jimtempleton7418
@jimtempleton7418 Жыл бұрын
Explained very well Thank you Ritchie 💯💪🏼🇺🇸
@Cschweppe
@Cschweppe Жыл бұрын
altitude is the answer.
@walterblanc9708
@walterblanc9708 Жыл бұрын
Just stick a strong Ion shield on it, it will be fine.
@michaelmeredith912
@michaelmeredith912 Жыл бұрын
Speculation based on solid research is great as long as you are clear about it like you did so well. My vote is for more of this type of content. There are so many videos about aircraft that everyone has seen so many times on many channels. This is great! 👍🏼
@kokomo9764
@kokomo9764 Жыл бұрын
What solid research? From a movie? Pleeese.
@liberalsaredegeneratebetasoyl
@liberalsaredegeneratebetasoyl Жыл бұрын
@@kokomo9764 lol liberal are all tv brainwashed sheep
@kiketve2
@kiketve2 Жыл бұрын
@@kokomo9764 THIS IS FROM A TELESCOPE IN THE UK. >>> kzfaq.info/get/bejne/gsxgnpWW1r3Lj4k.html
@Mechaneer
@Mechaneer Жыл бұрын
Well said and agreed.
@bighands69
@bighands69 Жыл бұрын
Certain countries hypersonic missiles are just speculation as well.
@dumdiversaspapalbull1452
@dumdiversaspapalbull1452 Жыл бұрын
I was in a doctors office in like 2010 or so, reading a magazine about that plane. It spoke as if the plane was matter of factly real, and went into great detail of how the jet engine worked. Switching from ram, to scram, and back to ram. It was in like one of those magazines that someone who could actually afford to buy a plane would subscribe to.
@sergeantgutter6552
@sergeantgutter6552 Жыл бұрын
Um Popular Science?
@dumdiversaspapalbull1452
@dumdiversaspapalbull1452 Жыл бұрын
@@sergeantgutter6552 nahh. Like a magazine that mainly had ads pertinent to sales and descriptions of private planes.
@georgefoushi6988
@georgefoushi6988 Жыл бұрын
As a former US Marine Aviator, back in the 80’s…we taxied at an Air Force base in California, and were told to taxi past a hangar, and to keep our “eyes right” what we saw, cannot deny what Lockheed has now flying in the SR-72 and SR-92…just look at how advances the F-117 and X37B are and we’re not publicly released until after more than a decade of use; Yes, a Dark Star and Aurora exist!
@lplp8542
@lplp8542 Жыл бұрын
I was in the air force from 1979 until 1985 and I agree with the marine pilot we have stuff that will go Mach 20
@quickcooper61
@quickcooper61 Жыл бұрын
@@lplp8542 yea... like the Space Shuttle 🤣
@nastasedr
@nastasedr Жыл бұрын
@@quickcooper61 nope. They mean air breathing.
@godzilla25_official2
@godzilla25_official2 Жыл бұрын
Then if you saw it why are you exposing what you saw in threat of national security? Also it’s the sr 91, not sr 92 and the sr 72 was announced in 2014 so you either lying or it’s another Aroura or tr3b black manta
@quickcooper61
@quickcooper61 Жыл бұрын
@@nastasedr please explain to me the air breathing propulsion system that gets something up to mach 20, if there were such an object that could go that fast without burning up 🤣
@Darkstar9513
@Darkstar9513 Жыл бұрын
Whenever the military reveals something new, it means they already have something better behind the curtains. In other words, they feel safe revealing this craft because it's already being replaced by something better. Remember the Blackbird was a secret for decades. When it was finally revealed to the public it was already retired.
@lector-dogmatixsicarii1537
@lector-dogmatixsicarii1537 Жыл бұрын
When they "retired it" it was still a super annoying headache to intercept with modern missiles and an undisclosed true top speed. We leaned into satellites and slower drones more without the need to hot dog over massive amounts of hostile airspace. Lots of experimentation in design and late term SR-71 missions have obviously been conflated with diversionary things like the subsonic B-2 and "aliens". Technology and materials advanced so much they finally are able to do away with a list of danger foibles and load occupiers. I suspect a piloted version is the grail for doing things that involve not being spoofed into the ground or having a data stream to pirate since we are doing the Cold War thing all over again. People forget the YF-12 and XB-70 were a thing, and now they also want both. This airframe will be the cause of so many S500 cope posts in the future when it can basically spy, electronic mothership, shoot satellites out of orbit and bomb with impunity. The cycle of 'Russia makes asinine ability claim and the MIC goes "ALO, BLYAT XAXAXAXA" in their trillion dollar panic response space ship' repeats. For levity, the one time the Russians got to fuck with an SR-71 without fail suiciding a Foxbat, they shit the bed violating airspaces to get to a crippled one only to find angry Swedes already scrambled to deal with the mystery plane that had been pissing off air defense for so long. 23 years after first flight and they still couldn't do anything about it taking pictures, lmfao.
@jadedandbitter
@jadedandbitter Жыл бұрын
They don't even build something until its old tech. The US operates on the presumption that if they build something it WILL be stolen. That means the Raptor was old tech when built in the 90's-it was based on stealth tech and design from the early 80's. The F-117A stealth tech was based on old early 60's stealth tech. Anytime they build something remember they could have built it a decade (or two) earlier, and when they publicly announce it and show it off they are already at least two generations past.
@adamsauer6516
@adamsauer6516 Жыл бұрын
that philosophy is not true.
@jadedandbitter
@jadedandbitter Жыл бұрын
@@adamsauer6516 true or not, it's what they do and have done since the Soviets stole nuclear weapons technology. They learned a hard lesson about information control regarding cutting edge technology.
@regular7156
@regular7156 Жыл бұрын
@@adamsauer6516 True or not,when something is declassified to the public, something else related to that gets classified in exchanged. Could be something far better than the one declassified but they wont just declassify advance technology without having some sort of leverage or a trump card on the peeking eye of spies and enemies of the US.
@indicadreamer3378
@indicadreamer3378 Жыл бұрын
I saw this yesterday from Lockheed's site - “When the Top Gun: Maverick team was looking to push the envelope and stand true to Maverick’s Need for Speed, Skunk Works was their first call. With Skunk Works’ expertise in developing the fastest known aircraft combined with a passion and energy for defining the future of aerospace, Darkstar’s capabilities could be more than mere fiction. They could be reality…”
@chadbailey30
@chadbailey30 Жыл бұрын
😂 that's awesome!!!!! Just imagine at one point the SR-71 was flying around and nobody would have ever thought it was realistic! I can only imagine what ufo type shit they are keeping secret
@jayjay53313
@jayjay53313 Жыл бұрын
Darkstar is real but it doesn't look like the 1 in Top Gun and doesn't go Mach 10 nor could turn that tight. The wingspan & wing area of actual darkstar is bigger.
@PaulGuy
@PaulGuy Жыл бұрын
Lol, Lockheed trolling conspiracy theorists and rival nations, that's hilarious. "Is it real? _Who knows?"_
@garthfarkley
@garthfarkley Жыл бұрын
@@PaulGuy Who knows what evil lurks in the hearts of men? The Shadow knows.
@ForageGardener
@ForageGardener Жыл бұрын
@@chadbailey30 I could believe, I have been 15 feet beneath the UFO type shit in broad daylight
@maximhoward4612
@maximhoward4612 Жыл бұрын
I've got a theory about the delivery method of munitions that a system like this would use. In current guided missiles, the vast majority of the missile is filled with propellant, with a tiny warhead in comparison. Given that the documents you showed indicate that they want 5 times the payload.....I think they may have decided to use an aircraft to achieve the hypersonic speeds, and the munitions it employs may have no engine in them at all, instead being guided glide bombs. With much more room inside the munition for the actual payload and a launch speed that's already approaching mach 6, there's no need to power the missile (which would no longer be a missile but a dart). Saves massively on cost per munition, makes launches harder to detect, and allowed much greater payloads in a given size of dart. Seems to check all the boxes for what the documentation indicates they want.
@mikekenney8362
@mikekenney8362 Жыл бұрын
You didn’t have to dig very deep to find the. Sr72. Don’t know about Mach 10, but USAF superiority in scramjets is well recognized. The beefing up of the B52 fleet suggest an aerial launch platform. Dual cycle has already developed. We certainly don’t think Lockheed is fronting this expense, so R&D hurdles have already being achieved. I believe your thoughtful and well-illustrated presentation extends understanding of this crucial technology and is a long way from the “foil hat “ genre
@tamamarquez2075
@tamamarquez2075 Жыл бұрын
I’m all for more of this kind of content also. My husband was an engineer at NorthAmerican Rockwell many years ago and worked on jet plane designs and the Shuttle. He’d so love the world we live in today. I’m sorry he missed all of these advancements as they have occurred very rapidly as far as time goes. And, I do believe your suppositions are accurate. We can only hope they are!
@giggleherz
@giggleherz Жыл бұрын
Now you miss him coming home talking to you about all that tec stuff you use to be bored with. You will see him again and it wont be for just a few years. God Bless
@daviddunsmore103
@daviddunsmore103 Жыл бұрын
@@giggleherz Maybe he "didn't" come home and talk about his work, precisely because he wasn't allowed to, at least at the time. 😉
@billg3645
@billg3645 Жыл бұрын
Hi, Tama. NAR made the iconic B-1B, which is a beautiful looking bomber. Some years back, when I was still working for the AF I stood in the shipping and receiving area of another contractor (other than the one I was working for) next to some crates that contained the equipment that manufactured the fuselage of the B-1B. They were being shipped to...of all places...China. The U.S. received 'assurances' from the Chinese that that equipment would not be used for other than 'civilian purposes'. Much respect for NAR and all of the amazing contributions they made to aviation...including my favorite aircraft of all time...the North American XB-70 Valkyrie...an absolute legend.
@bobthompson4319
@bobthompson4319 Жыл бұрын
@@billg3645 to bad the xb-70 never went farther if it did then the F-108 would have been as well
@billg3645
@billg3645 Жыл бұрын
@@bobthompson4319 It seems at least likely that the right decisions aren't always made, when it comes to deciding which weapon systems ultimately get the nod. Curtis Lemay (the first CinCSAC) is rumored to have said that the reason we didn't go into full production with the XB-70 is that it would have bankrupted the Soviet Union to defend against it.
@harmoniacaotica
@harmoniacaotica Жыл бұрын
Why would anyone not be interested in this sort of thing?? :) As long as it's "based on real events", has some truth to it and you're clear about it, I think this was another awesome video and want more of them.
@kellymeade4587
@kellymeade4587 Жыл бұрын
I worked for nearly 23 in aerospace, starting in the 90’s. I was responsible for calibrations in R&D labs….On test equipment, In the early stages of development for many of the actuation systems….for a lot of these modern day aircraft ….Like the F-22 and the F-35, when we didn’t really know, much about what we were working on ourselves. I will promise you …it’s not by mistake , the SkunkWorks trademark logo was shown during that movie. Kelly Johnson ….Oversaw that program at Lockheed, and of course developed the SR-71. My father’s good friend was a special military guard…stationed at the secret base , and they were all forced inside , when the new SR-71 ever took off, or landed in the early development. He took a chance one day, and made his way to a restricted area , and saw the SR-71 taxiing off the runway…. and was amazed. Just don’t doubt our government. I promise you , they’re way ahead of anything we have any idea about. I no longer work in Aerospace, but I know how it all develops!
@mike7652
@mike7652 Жыл бұрын
Yep, and they keep all the amazing technology for themselves.
@arthurlopez4487
@arthurlopez4487 Жыл бұрын
Yes please make more of these videos this is very good to hear ! My Dad was an aeronautical engineer and helped design the wing flaps for the C-17 McDonnell Douglas and he also helped design the AH-64 Apache Helicoopter for Hughes Aircraft.
@paulmakinson1965
@paulmakinson1965 Жыл бұрын
Strictly speaking, the space shuttle was a hypersonic manned aircraft. It even manoeuvred at hypersonic velocity doing S turns to bleed off the speed of re-entry, it was reusable and landed on a conventional runway.
@torreypine
@torreypine Жыл бұрын
I once sat in a lecture (aerospace engineering student in the ‘80’s) by a lead engineer on the shuttle program in which he characterized the aerodynamics of the shuttle as a 35-ton brick moving at Mach 31. Hypersonic is right. 🙂
@reclusiarchgrimaldus1269
@reclusiarchgrimaldus1269 Жыл бұрын
John 3:16 NIV For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.
@burddog0792
@burddog0792 Жыл бұрын
That's pretty much what these systems Russia and China say they have, needed to be launched from air at high speeds and accelerate to hypersonic while falling. U.S. is going to have true hypersonic scamjet cruise missiles and aircraft.
@phoenixrising4573
@phoenixrising4573 Жыл бұрын
*refurbishable, not truly re-usable. The shuttle was a pseudo glider, and it only reached atmospheric hypersonic speeds because it had to fall that fast.
@MrGreenAKAguci00
@MrGreenAKAguci00 Жыл бұрын
and it was able to survive reentry
@markwheeler4417
@markwheeler4417 Жыл бұрын
I enjoyed that. The key phrase was "supposition based on evidence". So long as that is clear it will be fun to see more of these. This isn't going to be a fighter though is it? What's the radius of a 9g turn at Mach 5 or more? Quite large I would think. I would also guess that this is quite a large vehicle just to hold the fuel. Great fun to speculate based on some evidence though.
@xkavarsmith9322
@xkavarsmith9322 Жыл бұрын
I was under the impression some Cold War jets were built to dash and intercept, not engage in dogfighting. Their weapons were designed with that in mind. Might be the same here.
@julianspasovski3775
@julianspasovski3775 Жыл бұрын
In my opinion it could be quite a great fighter. A war against Russia or China would be fought in the air beyond visual range (BVR). Chinese & Russian stealth technology is about 30-40 years behind the US (still can't replicate stealth of the F-22, F117 or B2). It could be stealthy which means it could fire long range air to air missiles against the enemy, before he is seen on the enemy radar, then it could run away, launch Hypersonic Air to Surface Missiles (maybe two AGM-183 ARRWs or something else?!) without getting hit, turn back to the base and collect intel while doing this --> Multi Purpose?! For the first 10-20 years in service it could be absolutely undestructable. I don't know a Radar in an Aircraft which could target aircrafts flying over Mach 3. Let alone firing a Missile which travels at mach 6+ and could pull 9G turns. Its one thing to build a Hypersonic Gliding Vehicle which can reenter at hypersonic speeds, but another to build an aircraft which can fly hypersonic. That would be a REAL gamechanger.
@armadillotoe
@armadillotoe Жыл бұрын
I remember the SR-71 had an intercept or fighter variant. At the time there wasn't anything fast enough to justify that, and it kept catching up to the missiles it fired. I don't know if computers have gotten fast enough to track hypersonic missiles for this SR-72 to act as an interceptor for those. If it does exist it will be an amazing leap forward in technology.
@LuvBorderCollies
@LuvBorderCollies Жыл бұрын
There is widespread "speculation" in the Air Force that a very new fighter/air superiority aircraft replacement for the F-22 is upcoming. There's no planned upgrades or modernization programs for the F-22 which is very unique. Also the planned "obsolescence" for the F-22 is not that far down the road. All this has raised eyebrows. Plus the F-22 is not for sale so one could easily conclude there is tech inside that's getting passed on to another craft.
@darrell3391
@darrell3391 Жыл бұрын
Speculation been around for 20 years, Aurora, TR3B. SR71 was kept secret a good while. Military is 20-50 years ahead of mainstream tech, so I’d say the probability of such an aircraft is fairly good.
@jeffkindrick6049
@jeffkindrick6049 Жыл бұрын
Great video! I just discovered your channel tonight and subscribed. As a veteran of the Naval Air community during the final stages of the air war in Vietnam, well thought out analysis and presentation of aviation subjects is always welcome. Bottom line, whatever the genesis of the "Darkstar", a real aircraft overflew the admiral, tore the roof from the guard shack and, according to the movie's director, destroyed the set. If it was some kind of CGI glamour cloaking a mundane aircraft it sure fooled me sitting front row center at the theater. Bravo Zulu, keep up the good work!
@chadwarden593
@chadwarden593 Жыл бұрын
Yes, it is an artists rendition of a 6th gen "fighter" if you can classify it as that, the NGAD program is developing at a record pace, Aurora, TR3B, SR-91 and others have been built and tested years ago already, not to mention a 6th gen technology demonstrator has already been flown and tested as revealed by the US military.
@deca0
@deca0 Жыл бұрын
I think this is 100% true, the US always plays coy and “behind” on technology
@fademusic1980
@fademusic1980 Жыл бұрын
its not a fighter, its a surveillance aircraft like the SR-71 and 72
@toddie4usa1
@toddie4usa1 Жыл бұрын
Do any of you actually work in the defense industry? 🤣
@cancelanime1507
@cancelanime1507 Жыл бұрын
"Aurora" doesn't exist, yes there was definitely a classified hypersonic aircraft built as an SR-71 replacement that has yet to be revealed today but Aurora was certainly not the name, the name Aurora was mentioned in an UNCLASSIFIED budget document.. Ben Rich who was the head of Skunk Works later confirmed it was the codename for the B-2 funding mechanism.. To add to that, SR-91 was the designation given to the Aurora by enthusiasts and the TR3B is a complete myth that only UFO nerds believe in..
@whyuhatan
@whyuhatan Жыл бұрын
@@fademusic1980 Which we don't really need anymore satellites and drones have taken over the information gathering space
@richardjackson1627
@richardjackson1627 Жыл бұрын
A great presentation as always. Very good, balanced report. The history of militaries, especially aviation arms using "slight of hand" in any direction to keep capabilities unknown in depth is as old aerial warfare. No doubt existence of the successor(s) to the Blackbird exist, I am talking about the airframes - not the spacecraft and frankly not the unmanned UAS capabilities. The A-12 proved the concept of the hypersonic combat aircraft. I will leave with this, when TFR - terrain following radar was being developed for high speed low level penetration of the IAD - Integrated Air Defense systems, the US fibbed a bit on test flight results at the start. Saying things were failing or not passing tests. Why? Cause we had a significant lead in the technology and we wanted to lengthen the lead with potential enemies. This works both ways. You can bankrupt an enemy in getting them to spend budget to "catch up" when you hold the high ground and take away from other asset development or fielding. See SDI. Whatever the outcome, please for the sake of God and country would you please insure we protect the intellectual property of this and all our technology! On old warhorse here sick of seeing our R&D once fielded copied in 18 months. Brother Alex - well done. v/r snake
@BruceNitroxpro
@BruceNitroxpro Жыл бұрын
Richard Jackson , Again, but with gusto... AMEN!
@starbase51shiptestingfacil97
@starbase51shiptestingfacil97 Жыл бұрын
"Balanced report"? It's from a fictional movie. There's number of problems with this fictional plane. Head on or front profile has to be small as possible. The plane is literally plowing into a wall of air. For example, the new F-16s can fly as high as mach 2.05 without attachments (bombs, missiles, etc) on it's hard point, but less than 600 miles per hour, fully loaded. The attachments causes the plane to slow down because the increased air pressure in the front (air resistance). There is also drag, vacuum behind the attachments and the plane. Pressure in the front, vacuum behind slows the airplane down. Fast planes must have smallest head-on profile as possible (low wind resistance and low drag). The SR-71 is a long plane. It can hold a lot of fuel. Faster you go, more fuel you need. Making the plane longer, avoids the increase in wind resistance and minimizes drag, while increasing the capacity for more fuel. The positions of the engines also may have advantages. They are spaced apart so they are not thrusting the same adjacent air, for greater thrust (suspicion, not proven). The fictional plane at least got that part right. Actually, there is another plane that competed with the F-22. F-23 was said to be faster, using the same engine P&W F119, but spaced further apart over 3(?) feet or more. It's hard to say for certain, since they have different shapes (aerodynamics). Impracticality of hyper-sonic planes. There is a phenomena where traveling at high speeds in the atmosphere causes high heat (reentry for example). This maybe explained by flammable gases (hydrogen, nitrogen, oxygen) in the air. Under high air pressure, these gases may accumulate enough to ignite. The SR-71 experiences temperatures in the range of 600-1000 degrees at operating speeds and seems a bit high, when you consider air at high altitude, air is very cold (-60 to -69 degrees F). Is it really friction alone doing that? Friction involves two solid objects being rubbed against each other and no cooling. Plain fire can range from 400 - 9000 degrees F. The SR-71 seems to be experiencing low level fire on the leading edges, during operations. Cold and hot air and altitude can accumulate enough to produce electrical sparks (static electricity, lightning). Mixed with flammable gases flying faster or at mach 2.5, you are literally torching the plane. A cross between arc welding and blow torch. Plane starts to heat up a but below Mach 1. [Fuel deleted] - It's actually called JP-7 (jet propellant). Flying at those speeds would require lot of replacement parts due to structural stresses. SR-71 expands by 3 to 4 inches during flight. The Concorde, about 1 foot. Contraction and expansion, every time it flies at high speeds, reduces it life expectancy. It's unlikely "economy of scale" will ever be able to catch up, as cost will spiral out of control and very impractical.
@ThomasLee123
@ThomasLee123 Жыл бұрын
@@starbase51shiptestingfacil97 Funny how conventional physics show us more and more how much quantum environments can act to make the impossible - possible.
@septembersurprise5178
@septembersurprise5178 Жыл бұрын
@@ThomasLee123 A. science fiction > science fact. B. science fact > science fiction.
@gayprepperz6862
@gayprepperz6862 Жыл бұрын
The best way to protect the technology is to not do joint ventures with our "allies". This is what drove up the cost of the F 35 program (everyone wanted a piece of the production pie), and led to security leaks. Turkey is a good example of an unreliable ally that had a part in production of the F 35 components. There hasn't been any problems along that line with the F 22 (not that I'm aware of), because the program was completely homogeneous, and hermetic, so to speak.
@monica93304
@monica93304 Жыл бұрын
I just watched TG Maverick for the second time in 10 days. I watched it with my friend who was in the Navy for 29 years. Retired as a Master Chief. He told me that he introduced the F/A 18 Super Hornet to his crew when it came out. When the Darkstar appreared in the movie (not knowing) I said to him that it looked an awful lot like an SR71. I asked him if he thought the aircraft could be real, and he didn't say it couldn't ;) I found out yesterday before the movie started that he even got to ride in a F/A 18 right before he retired!!! Great stuff. But he told me how much he loved the F14... Great content on this video. Thank you.
@michaelwinter5292
@michaelwinter5292 Жыл бұрын
Alex, absolutely love these type of videos. Potentially development of new technologies particularly in the aircraft industry I find very interesting, more so anything relating to skunk works. You do an incredible effort in your research and have much better contacts than I do so am always interested to here your comments on these things.
@glenn_r_frank_author
@glenn_r_frank_author Жыл бұрын
This was nice to hear (the speculative side of things) in small doses. I would hope the most of your videos will continue to focus on things that are more provable but this little adventure into a speculative topic is fun to hear too. Glad you did it. More, but in moderation. ;-)
@LukeBunyip
@LukeBunyip Жыл бұрын
Seconded
@rogerrinkavage
@rogerrinkavage Жыл бұрын
Thirdeded
@dirt_ripper8734
@dirt_ripper8734 Жыл бұрын
Fourthed
@viktornicht260
@viktornicht260 Жыл бұрын
exactly this!
@bdobson1616
@bdobson1616 Жыл бұрын
everything in moderation. well mostly. :-)
@nooblangpoo
@nooblangpoo Жыл бұрын
The best part about showing the DarkStar is that "It's Fictional for now" is a good handwave against foreign enemies while the real SR-72 is being more obscured by the DarkStar.
@captin3149
@captin3149 Жыл бұрын
I feel the Darkstar is probably 'real' in the same way the F-19 Stealth fighter was 'real' There were some gnarly designs that the F-19 was attributed to and (I think) a pretty cool aircraft. Later on it was revealed that what the public was thinking was the F-19 turned out to be the F-117. SO a real plane, but a incorrect public interpretation.
@lllewelll
@lllewelll Жыл бұрын
That Dark Star scene in Top Gun 2 had me *in tears!* I was mindblown and *elated beyond measure.*
@Corvetjoe1
@Corvetjoe1 Жыл бұрын
They do exist and we’ve been using them in military operations especially the TR-3B. I won’t be surprised if one of the models becomes public since we usually release them after 10 or more use years and, after new developmental craft are successfully being tested.
@GholaTleilaxu
@GholaTleilaxu Жыл бұрын
Military operations from video games maybe.
@jodeath2000
@jodeath2000 Жыл бұрын
I just love your videos! I love the hard technology, but I love videos like this one where you mix a bit of known tech with some speculation..... It's just entertaining! Please keep up the great videos! Thanks for all the work you do!
@xm8553
@xm8553 Жыл бұрын
“A hypersonic plane may be coming into military service…. If you’re not here for that I understand.” Alex, thats exactly why we’re here! You have enough credit and reliability with your dedication to providing accurate facts, in depth analysis and not sensationalizing things that when you speculate about something that you have thoroughly researched we trust what you are saying. Love your videos man. There’s literally not another channel in this space that is on the same level. Keep up the good work!
@dhuh6760
@dhuh6760 Жыл бұрын
In Tom Cruise's undying dedication to realism, he declassified a classified aircraft to fly it on camera before our eyes.
@peternicho
@peternicho Жыл бұрын
It would be nice to see how you have addressed how the pilots are handling the physical side of flying and what breakthroughs and limitations have they met.
@e.s.5529
@e.s.5529 Жыл бұрын
To anyone who is going to bother to read this we have had hypersonic airframes a long time. This is high altitude hypersonic operations and or testing that is taking place over the United States mainly over bodies of water ( the Gulf of Mexico, Atlantic, and Pacific ) . As an obvious example in this particular case, "Spin up" for these types of aircraft (meaning how long the three-stage cycled engines take to get to hypersonic velocities takes a bit). Subsonic to supersonic to hypersonic and back down again and needing to turn and change their vectors. Remember that if some of this is testing they are not permitted to venture too far from the Continental United States, so the "spin up" process starts taking place over the east coast (Ohio Wright Patterson AFB)-west coast Nellis AFB & Groom Lake Test Facility to the Pacific and out of Offutt AFB in Nebraska moving south over Texas & Louisiana out over the Gulf. To far south and they could be over South American airspace, too far east and west and they are too far over the ocean for assistance is technical issues arise (being if they are testing that particular evening). If west and east coast operations are not conducting testing let's assume they continue with the classified flight plan. This means, N.A.S.A, the F.A.A., A.T.C. in those states effecting with booms" are not going to have any data because the aircraft is flying at altitude in excess of angles 120 and A.T.C isn't looking and cant track those none conventional ranges. N.O.R.A.D. is a different story but this is classified as top secret and is not going to acknowledge anything. Remember keep in mind the A-12 & SR-71 at work up to speed took (match 2.7 - 3.35) between 70 and 110 miles to completely turn around. These planes are flying faster (maybe beyond Mach 10...maybe ) and they are not using JPL typical jet fuel as OX Cart did. They are using liquid oxygen and methane mixture. Methane works very well at high altitudes because of temperature and "burn off" and combustion ratio( works better at high altitudes because of cooler temps) . They are probably using JP-5 (kerosine mixture) with very high flash points as spin-ups begin to speed. The fact that people ask their local sheriff for answers and call channel eleven news for information is completely hilarious. The SR replacement we are speaking of here is old ...very old.
@BruceNitroxpro
@BruceNitroxpro Жыл бұрын
E. S. , Hey, it ain't cool to find you need three states to turn around over.
@vinniemoreno704
@vinniemoreno704 Жыл бұрын
Please give more insightfulness on any of these mysterious craft Sir.Secret craft have been witnessed by many for years.I believe most UFO sightings are these great Craft being tested.What do you think about that big boomerang craft supposably seen and reported flying across a few States before the Phoenix lights episode later on that night.I have seen a grainy supposed video of it flying and banking and the strobe lights on the wingspan make it seem huge.Thats no flare over downtown.Its a godamn something flying around over people's towns and it big and freaking everyone out!Is it a hoax?All those reported sightings?Am i crazy to think it could be possible?
@e.s.5529
@e.s.5529 Жыл бұрын
@@vinniemoreno704 Mr. Moreno, I do not have a lot of answers just like the rest of us however I have "some" knowledge. That "boomerang" platform may have been a version of stealth lighter than air vehicle tested by Skunkworks/Airforce Research Lab. A very large airframe approaching 270' with a spend of 300 knots and lifting capacity of 4940 lbs. A smaller version was being created for the U.S. Navy along with a nonrigid frame so they could be assembled on aircraft carriers. In other words, a stealth blimp that could stay aloft for more 24hrs undetected with a speed of 320 knots and lifting capacity of 3400 lbs. At the time they were being considered for "team insertion" and "exfiltration". There were many types being considered, command and control, aerial refueling over contested airspace for F-117 and B-2, team insertion (ha-lo- hi-ho), cargo, and troop transport. One type under consideration that may be relevant to Phionex was an electronic warfare variant with many capabilities like the ALQ-249. Possible emp, and jamming, but not just other aircraft but shutting down entire areas to deny enemy operations of any kind completely (electronically). Now, this part is just a rumor so I do not know how accurate this is but there may have been something called "nightlight". Testing an optical system that could project objects in the infrared and visual spectrum as well. A hologram of some application. Obviously, I wasn't there so i can only speculate but it's possible that the "boomerang" was a military platform and was testing the electronic warfare capabilities ...specifically, the "nightlight" capability on the citizens of Phoenix. It is also possible it was a military platform observing a UAP and attempting to collect as much data as possible. Remember one thing, as long as the public believes it is something from another world our enemies do as well, so officially it isn't United States technology. have a great day, and hope this helped a little.
@Lycon721995
@Lycon721995 Жыл бұрын
The Aurora huh? Late 80's early 90's that's what this thing is based off of, looks like it too
@vinniemoreno704
@vinniemoreno704 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for your insightful response.That direction of flight advancement is very intriguing and worth exploring.Mindblowing and amazing craft made by Man. Professor; People have beliefs but Is anything possible? For instance.Could extra terrestrial life exist?or just God exists?My Mother's church forbids evolution and E.T talk.
@KeyboardWarrior101st
@KeyboardWarrior101st Жыл бұрын
Back in the day an OGA friend of mine told me that classified technology is usually about 3-4 decades ahead of public technology. Take it for what it's worth, after all I'm just a random KZfaq commenter. Good video by the way.
@Lycon721995
@Lycon721995 Жыл бұрын
4s pushin it but 3, i could see 3. 2 or 3 decades honestly
@russmauch6106
@russmauch6106 Жыл бұрын
Fantastic review Alex. I wondered when that aircraft rolled out of the hanger during the early part of the movie how it could be just a mock up and still have everything work. May have to go back and see the movie again. Thanks for your good work on this one.
@barrettjet
@barrettjet Жыл бұрын
A very good video that I really enjoyed, Alex. All of my flying life, 64 years of it, I have had a strong interest in the black programs. Please keep them coming and your conjecture of what may be happening is very close to the truth as this is the vein of technology that the Skunk Works is mining. They are a credit to Kelly's legacy.
@matirs342
@matirs342 Жыл бұрын
I think there's a clear hint in the latest Lockheed Top Gun press release. Besides the "Could be a reality..." sentence. The sentence goes: "With the Skunk Works expertise in developing the fastest *known* aircraft combined with a passion and energy for defining the future of aerospace, Darkstar’s capabilities could be more than mere fiction." I think the key here is the word *known*, implying there's faster unknown aircrafts. Of course the mention refers to the SR-71, but why include it? Why no just say "expertise in developing the world's fastest aircraft". I think that was deliberate. As said in the video, I think Darkstar is a wink from Skunk Works. Even maybe a coded message to Russia or China about US capabilities and Top Gun is the perfect place to hide it at plain sight.
@YeetiestBoi
@YeetiestBoi Жыл бұрын
read every comment like this and put it together and research more.something badass definitely exist
@rowmagnvs
@rowmagnvs Жыл бұрын
Well said
@copykon
@copykon Жыл бұрын
It's starting to make sense. An epic trolling of the PLA with their carrier news.
@trumptookthevaccine1679
@trumptookthevaccine1679 Жыл бұрын
It’s their marketing department. Those people don’t have any access.
@macbuff81
@macbuff81 Жыл бұрын
The 90s TV series "JAG" also had an episode where it featured a fictional hypersonic craft which used a pulse scramjet drive
@BruceNitroxpro
@BruceNitroxpro Жыл бұрын
Christian O. Holz , Oh, there is someone else out there that remembers JAG? LOL OMG!
@macbuff81
@macbuff81 Жыл бұрын
@@BruceNitroxpro ;) I didn't really watch it when it first aired, but just a few years ago on DVD. JAG definitely has great moments and it did spawn the TV series NCIS. A few years back the JAG cast shortly reclaimed their former roles in a guest appearance in NCIS: LA And yea, the female main actress was quite pretty too :) I have a thing for smart women in uniform ;) Yes, Catherine Bell is her name. I think I began to develop more of an appreciation and interest in the show after working for a government in a legal department as well. Though, to be fair, I do like smart TV content that is challenging and educational with a good story line
@psibet900
@psibet900 Жыл бұрын
There's been a replacement of the SR-71 flying for quite some time. It was developed and built in the Aurora program and the final rendition of this incredible machine is called the SR-91, which is a Lockheed Martin, combined cycle engine Mach 15 powered machine that can operate at 200,000 feet. I suspect that the SR-72 is little more than a diversion to make our enemies believe that we cannot develop or deploy such an amazing aircraft.
@trumptookthevaccine1679
@trumptookthevaccine1679 Жыл бұрын
Taking out of your ass.
@georgedavey1339
@georgedavey1339 Жыл бұрын
Aurora is Darkstar. SR-72 is a troll like you said. Black projects are ultra top secret. No civilian hears about their existence till they are taken out of service. Great comment.
@xlgapelsin6173
@xlgapelsin6173 Жыл бұрын
oh dear lord there is so much wrong with this comment i don't know where to start
@psibet900
@psibet900 Жыл бұрын
@@xlgapelsin6173 So tell me, are you a specialist in advanced military aviation technology or did you ever work for them?
@xlgapelsin6173
@xlgapelsin6173 Жыл бұрын
@@psibet900 Do you have a basic understanding of physics? the extreme heat generated would melt anything we have currently (hence why the shuttles and rockets for space have heatshields that have to be replaced after every launch even tho they only go mach 20 for very short amounts of time on reentry) and not to mention the problem of drag that occours the faster you go. to dumb it down when it comes to top speed drag is the problem. To counter drag you have to streamline the thing going fast and as has been proven with the sr71 that means no turning since it couldn't turn for shit. drag is the killer of high speeds and is a major part in the compromise in high speeds or manouverability. I would like you to provide me with credible sources for your claims about aurora and sr91 and other things you have mentioned
@grey5135
@grey5135 Жыл бұрын
Sometimes the best way to hide something is in plain sight..... I mean my knee jerk reaction was "that can't be real or else it wouldn't be in a movie" 😂
@nigelbenn4642
@nigelbenn4642 Жыл бұрын
Dark Star was the callsign for the Aurora project by Lockheed skunkworks in the 90s. Plenty of recorded CB radio transmissions captured by H.A.M radio enthusiasts calling Dark Star by it's name.
@mattfoss1652
@mattfoss1652 Жыл бұрын
This is correct. I think the Lockheed engineers who collaborated with the producers of Top Gun suggested this name with a wink and a nod.
@nigelbenn4642
@nigelbenn4642 Жыл бұрын
@@mattfoss1652 Quite possibly, took me most of the day but found the old documentary I was looking for kzfaq.info/get/bejne/bbZnptZ3x9fOko0.html
@raymondweaver8526
@raymondweaver8526 Жыл бұрын
CB transmissions?
@nigelbenn4642
@nigelbenn4642 Жыл бұрын
@@raymondweaver8526 Citizens band radio (also known as CB radio), you can pick up some military signals on Public bandwidths, not always but occasionally.
@christophercao7027
@christophercao7027 Жыл бұрын
Great video! I like these sort of speculation videos if they're based off of actual information, and hope you'll do more of them in the future. One sidenote, however, is that current hypersonic cruise missiles can probably be intercepted by existing air-defense systems due to having to slow down to Mach 3-4 and not being able to maneuver due to heavier air at lower levels when attacking a target on land or on the sea, which is the speed that current USN systems, like SM-2MR and SM-6 are designed to intercept. Hypersonic Glide Vehicles, however, are extremely difficult, if not impossible to intercept during midcourse flight, but is still open to terminal interception. The main importance of these weapons are the speed at which it can respond to a threat, and in this case it is vastly superior to existing systems.
@ltitus8900
@ltitus8900 Жыл бұрын
After thinking about this a lot, I can see how this design is really intended to not advertise Lockheeds capabilities through the Darkstar. It's to show that their design of a hyper sonic aircraft would be far greater than the dark star. 1. So, I think it's possible that the front profile of the Darkstar stands a great chance of starting. Regardless of our tech capabilities, aero still rules the show. 2. Stealth is a close second as well. So, the only way I can think of to utilize two scramjets is to blend the intake into the frame. And it would most likely be on top. The main reason for blending the intake into the frame is for aero as well. 3. It would be larger than the Darkstar. Maybe twice as big. The longer it is, the more room they can use to reduce drag. It will also give enough room to hold the right amount of ordinance and maintain rigidity. 4. We will not send a man at mach 10 or 6. Any intangibility in fight behaviour and we could loose a pilot easy. Leading me to the biggest "mistake" their design of the Darkstar. To me, it's obvious the two windows were an after thought and a dead give away. You do not need to be an inside man to know that we simply cannot handle maneuvers at mach whatever. Further more, a hypersonic spy aircraft is yesterdays tech. A hypersonic vehicle will need to me highly maneuverable because it's only useful use is an extremely hard to hit weapons delivery platform. We are not dodging missiles and lasers at hypersonic speeds lol.
@AEON.
@AEON. Жыл бұрын
The SR-71 was introduced in 1966 and is touted as the fastest jet in the world to this day - a rocket is not a jet. And for anyone to think that we have not already destroyed this record time and time again - is just asinine - it's 2022. Do more videos like this Sandboxx -
@trippprofant8747
@trippprofant8747 Жыл бұрын
Always a great day when sandbox posts, love your content man!
@wedot1
@wedot1 Жыл бұрын
I think you always put videos out right when I am actually trying to get stuff done.
@TonyNewmanStudio
@TonyNewmanStudio Жыл бұрын
Keep these videos going... I can't get enough of Darkstar, F35, F22... I've always been fascinated with our current airpower technology. The last year has exploded with so much information. The comparisons to Russia and China are so important to know. Just fascinating! The bonus is the information is told without too much flag waving B.S. hype. You seem to always put the info in context. I appreciate the way you produce and present these videos... keep em' coming!
@gerrycrisostomo6571
@gerrycrisostomo6571 Жыл бұрын
This is FANTASTIC. I vote for more contents of this kind. Keep up the great work.
@murmur3966
@murmur3966 Жыл бұрын
Incredibly fun and informative piece big guy. Never stop looking up or behind so you don't miss anything. Even if you have to put on a tinfoil hat sometimes to blend in, you might just hear or see what might be hidden right in front of you. The only thing holding back a craft like this is how to keep everything glued together at those speeds to be able to reuse it for other missions. I love all your content so keep the awesome stuff coming.
@joenichols3901
@joenichols3901 Жыл бұрын
great video. lockheed is dying to tell us about the craft. its like when you know something but cant tell your friends but you kinda hint at it ... cant wait to see it in action
@regular7156
@regular7156 Жыл бұрын
8 or more years maybe and we could see if some of these are true, other than that, you wont find a definitive answer because its top secret/classified as fuckkk. US is ahead of everyone else in Aerial technology but I hope they move or currently is caught up with the Missile technology. China or Russia could be bluffing but we not taking chances today lol.
@chrissartain4430
@chrissartain4430 Жыл бұрын
Great video as always, thanks for the hard work!
@iandevlin7826
@iandevlin7826 Жыл бұрын
Bill Sweetman goes through all this 31 years ago in his book Aurora: America’s Secret Spyplane. I got my copy in 1993 when I was in Washington DC at the Air & Space Museum. The Aurora SR-75 was a duel combination cycle hypersonic jet/scramjet fueled by liquid methane flown out of Groom Lake in the mid to late 1980’s. It looked very similar to “Darkstar” plane seen on Top Gun: Maverick. Just nearly 40 years earlier under the Regan Administration.
@jjr1728
@jjr1728 Жыл бұрын
@Mitchell Couchman The Aurora has been active since 1989. There's satellite imagery going at 8,000 mph back in 1992. Seismologists that tracked the sonic booms as not that of the space shuttle signature. It crashed in 1994 @ Boscome Down in the UK. Not much has been mentioned about it, since other than some Area 51 workers were trying to take the government to court in the early 90's because the chemicals they were working with to give it the heat resistance were giving them health issues like cancer.
@KiNG-tx9je
@KiNG-tx9je 9 ай бұрын
It's not. I recall back in like 4th grade. 1988ish. A lady who worked for NASA came to speak at our school. (Very private school). Shebtalked about a jet that was being developed in combination with NASA that would fly VERY fast in the lower layer of space. I don't recall a whole lot, but the whole Aurora Dadkstar discussion kind of unlocked an old memory of this situation at school. I never put the two together until I saw images of the alleged aircraft. They look the same as the one the lady brought to our school in the 80s
@iemozzomei
@iemozzomei Жыл бұрын
I can definitely see it being a prototype of some variation, however I'd assume leaking it early would to some extent let CN/RUS evaluate capabilities to some extent. Volume, engine sizes, aero design and potential stealth abilities. Then again, it potentially being real will likely force others to consider it's abilities, thus adding more to think about huh.
@TB-zf7we
@TB-zf7we Жыл бұрын
In light of the ubiquitous cameras in Ukraine & their affect, I have renewed my unease with everyone's right to know and the need for OPSEC especially during the development phase. Average joe loves the cool videos over beer, but especially so do the unfriendly security services.
@joeclaridy
@joeclaridy Жыл бұрын
@@TB-zf7we true except in cases of when DOD uses certain press releases that are used as deterence to influence our adversaries. Our adversaries do the same with systems such as S-400/S-500, Zircon/Kensal missiles as well as others in an attempt to pressure their adversaries, United States, into altering their stances.
@whyuhatan
@whyuhatan Жыл бұрын
I have a feeling that what we're looking at is the next phase in a U.S counterintelligence operation Think about it why would skunk works an organization infamous for its secrecy corroborate on making a stealth aircraft for a film. It's to get the rumor mills flying and our adversaries spending resources chasing shadows. Meanwhile skunk works will quietly go back to whatever it is there actually working on
@burddog0792
@burddog0792 Жыл бұрын
China and Russia can't even build a fighter on par with the F35, let alone F22. Bet you they couldn't even build an SR71 clone. Their hypersonic weapons they love to rave about are nothing more than missiles which can accelerate with gravity's help.
@regular7156
@regular7156 Жыл бұрын
They could just be giving false attributes and twists some of the assumed abilities to confuse China or Russia if they ever try to probe. Usually only the top high ranks of the military or engineers get to know the true capabilities of a work in progress highly classified prototype/project that's maybe coming in or around 2030. So let's assume they're not dumb and smart enough to have a false safe or a backup plan incase spies infiltrate and try to get info on this tech. We're kinda at a mini Cold-War on Hypersonic missiles instead of Nukes now. Hypersonic presents a better and efficient threat without destroying the whole world like Nuking which would result in a Nuke war exchange.
@edu.M.A.0077
@edu.M.A.0077 Жыл бұрын
3 additional confirmed facts support your video! (1) Several eye witnesses have seen a "soap on a rope" aircraft trail. (2) Several retired experts on identifying aircraft have seen an apparently unknown high performance aircraft being escorted by military aircraft, and (3) A Ham Radio enthusiast heard and recorded audio using the sign "Dark Star." When these 3 facts are put together, these strongly support your video! You are definitely on the right track!
@iczer01
@iczer01 Жыл бұрын
it was the donuts on a rope contrail not to metion seismic sensors getting tripped from sonic booms across the united stated in the mid 90s extrapalated a speed of mach 10
@zombieshoot4318
@zombieshoot4318 Жыл бұрын
I've seen the soap on a rope contrail twice. Both times I was in South Florida and both times the trail went from west to east horizon to horizon very fast and very high. I couldn't even see the plane making the trail nor hear the plane. That was years ago. I've seen plenty of contrails from planes but these two times stood out simply because of that soap on a rope look and the speed at which it went. Whatever it was it was just flying over Florida. I've never seen it since those two times. I figure it was just the new version of the SR-71.
@johnnywalker4490
@johnnywalker4490 Жыл бұрын
Love YOUR Show Alex , Keep it going !!
@terryward1422
@terryward1422 8 ай бұрын
This was awesome and pretty informative. I had no clear understanding of how a scram jet engine worked and this video answered my questions.
@vagellan_8842
@vagellan_8842 Жыл бұрын
I live adjacent to NAWS China Lake. The past year or so, I've noticed that every time it's overcast outside, I can hear the rumble of some type of jet aircraft. Different jet engines with or without different fans and bypass ducts will sound very distinct to me. This new sound (to me) only occurs when it is overcast. I check my Airplane Finder app to see if it's a publicly tracked flight that I can learn about, and I find ALL publicly listed air traffic have been vectored around the airspace for 150 mile or so radius every time. Naturally, I'm intrigued. I wish I could see it just once.
@avroarchitect1793
@avroarchitect1793 Жыл бұрын
give it 40 years and you might get to see it publicly, its impossible to hide something like that forever. Think F-117
@dextermorgan1
@dextermorgan1 Жыл бұрын
That's very intriguing.
@morgatron4639
@morgatron4639 Жыл бұрын
You should try to record these events somehow and upload a video explaining the phenomenon.
@vagellan_8842
@vagellan_8842 Жыл бұрын
Might be an opportunity to gather an audience and put together a little content of my own, but, I don't know how to record ambient audio in a way that effectively conveys how powerful the source is without actually seeing it. With a good microphone and no wind it would just sound like a low rumble. You know how the sound of large engined aircraft like a 777 or A350 taking off permeates everything while you're standing in a terminal? Almost like that, seemingly coming from all directions, or no direction (other than up) and less intense. Anyway, trying to uncover something my country is developing and has taken noticeable steps to conceal (that isn't harmful to us or our constitution) isn't on my moral compass
@lantinian
@lantinian Жыл бұрын
I loved your insight Alex. The way you alighted against world events and facts that happened over time gives it so much credence. I think you would have been an amazing CIA analyst.
@infinitumneo840
@infinitumneo840 Жыл бұрын
I like your views in this area, back up by real information. DARPA recently acquired technology from the UK which is involved in the Skylon project. This system is flyable from runway to space. I would like to hear more about this system. This is a real game changer.
@drnr2981
@drnr2981 Жыл бұрын
Had no idea about Darkstar before going into watching Maverick. When they showed the craft I blurted out "Holy shit, that looks like an SR-71" to which an older gentleman in front cocked his head back and nodded. I was totally geeked out as the Blackbird is my favorite aircraft and I was totally invested in the SR-72s reality. I really enjoyed this.
@JG54206
@JG54206 Жыл бұрын
I watched the movie last night and I immediately thought Darkstar looked a lot like what the “Aurora” aircraft that supposedly never existed and was the center of much speculation in the early 2000’s. Obviously Darkstar had a scramjet instead of the supposed advanced pulse wave detonation engine that the “Aurora” was said to have. Given that it’s been a good 15 years or so since the Aurora was being talked about, the Darkstar airframe looked remarkably like what the Aurora was described as. Solid black triangle with no discernible wings. I think they used concepts from the Aurora as well as some design cues from the NGAD fighter currently being developed.
@Lycon721995
@Lycon721995 Жыл бұрын
Yep, i even said oh shit the Aurora in the theater XD
@kevineckelkamp
@kevineckelkamp Жыл бұрын
Tr3b is the triangle
@julietlima5564
@julietlima5564 Жыл бұрын
If you go back even further to the early and mid 90s... you get Aurora and the mention of Darkstar. There were reports of sonic booms at almost regular intervals off the coast of California. Pictures of strange contrails that look like doughnuts on a string. A strange sighting of a triangle shaped UFO flying with an aerial tanker and two F-111s. Chances are hypersonic tech and platforms were being tested and conceptualized way earlier then most people think. It has only been recently that new interest into hypersonic tech been pushed to the forefront.
@davidscott2756
@davidscott2756 Жыл бұрын
Loved it. You did a great job. Perhaps a segment that encompasses laser capability. Like stopping nukes from their launch sites. That may prove to be quite interesting. Thank you for your consideration.
@jordanch68
@jordanch68 Жыл бұрын
Excellent detective work! More of this please!
@pastorrich7436
@pastorrich7436 Жыл бұрын
Agreed, un-manned, modular, re-usable. Hmm, sounds kinda like the Quarterhorse or son thereof and of course SR-72. Love your writing, research and reporting. Carry on!
@mattfoss1652
@mattfoss1652 Жыл бұрын
Seems to me the Darkstar is a rendition of the hypersonic aircraft Lockheed built and tested in the early nineties. The term Darkstar was consistently mentioned on channels reserved for spy satellites in 1992 and 1993. The term would show up when the odd doughnuts on a rope contrails appeared and the deep low pitch pulsing sounds associated with Aurora/Darkstar occurred.
@dextermorgan1
@dextermorgan1 Жыл бұрын
Thank you. I just commented almost the exact same thing. People don't understand we've had hypersonic technology for a very long time now. We're labeled as conspiracy theorists if we say anything other than what's publicly acknowledged. It's irritating!
@SlappyMcK
@SlappyMcK 6 ай бұрын
A very good presentation of your thorough investigation.
@Watchandcutgearchannel
@Watchandcutgearchannel Жыл бұрын
That was a great video! Well put together.. the “son of blackbird “ project is interesting
@billwalsh9711
@billwalsh9711 Жыл бұрын
About twenty some years ago I was letting the dogs out VERY early in the morning. It was just about the time the eastern horizon just starts showing the first hints of daylight. Over the top of a very large oak tree I see this extremely bright light moving west at a very high rate of speed. It covered approximately sixty degrees of sky in just a minute or so. I was in full dark but it was in full sunlight the whole time. As it disappeared west over the peak of my roof I start to hear an extremely deep thrumming, boom boom boom in rapid succession far to the east traveling west and went on long after the "bright spot" was gone. This was at the time that there were so many denials that the "Aurora" didn't exist but everything I saw was "The Aurora" in flight. These things have existed for a long time.
@matthewdavies2057
@matthewdavies2057 Жыл бұрын
A Pulse Wave Detonation Engine aka doughnuts on a rope. Been heard and seen above SoCal since the 80's. Plane description was a big pointed black triangle. More pointed than Darkstar.
@katprowler6805
@katprowler6805 Жыл бұрын
I would be more surprised if this wasn't real. Hypersonic 'replacement' for the blackbird has been around since the days of 'Aurora' in the 90s which I believe to be an X plane and precursor to the current Darkstar or whatever designation it may be. I'm not sure about Mach 10 but I'm 99% sure there has been some Mach 6+ PDE reusable vehicles flying around for the past several years.
@danielkbarton
@danielkbarton Жыл бұрын
Outstanding video, and yes Lockheed is probably hiding this fantastic aircraft in plain sight. It's probably been flying for longer than anyone realizes.
@terrymoneypenny2619
@terrymoneypenny2619 6 ай бұрын
Love this show... keep kicking ass!!!
@PaulGuy
@PaulGuy Жыл бұрын
It's weird how it's always Lockheed at the bleeding edge of aircraft development. Not Boeing, not Northrop Grumman, always Lockheed. All the way back to the P-38 and P-80 through the SR-71, F-117, F-22, and F-35, they're always the ones developing technologies first and experimenting with wacky stuff, often without even having contracts or even design requests, just because they think it's possible and they know if they can make it work, the US military will want it.
@harold-e-acc
@harold-e-acc Жыл бұрын
To be honest, we may never know the existence of the Darkstar at least until some war breaks out, which is not in US interests these days anyway, since finding out we’re literally sitting on the world’s largest untapped oil reserves, so wars for resources are unnecessary and impractical. Like with B2 and F117, these aircraft never became household names until the first gulf war broke out. Would be way better if the military convert these Darkstars for space scouting purposes, set up rare metal mining platforms throughout the solar system.
@defective6811
@defective6811 Жыл бұрын
Im hopeful of the dark budget elements of Artemis for that latter part. Among the areas of interest is the Aitkin crater, under which has been discovered a metallic mass five times the size of the island of Hawaii. One of the leading theories is that its the remnants of a planitessimal, and if so it could hold millions of tons of highly pure minerals and metals, potentially including rare earths.
@defective6811
@defective6811 Жыл бұрын
@Mark Smith thanks to what franking has opened up, the US sits on near 3 trillion barrels of oil, and the shale fields of also produce huge quantities of natural gas
@user-jh6ik1qd7p
@user-jh6ik1qd7p Жыл бұрын
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@harold-e-acc
@harold-e-acc Жыл бұрын
@Mark Smith yes! Combined, the entirety of America’s oil deposits, shale and conventional, is estimated to be larger than that of Russia and Saudi Arabia’s combined. But as you said, most of these are extracted via fracking. There’s literally no reason for the United States to go to war for resources in 2022 onward, unless it has directly to do with the direct defense of itseterritories from attack from an adversary identified beyond reasonable doubt and after exhaustive investigations are conducted.
@whyuhatan
@whyuhatan Жыл бұрын
@@defective6811 Apparently there are places in Canada where it's literally leaking untapped oil out of the ground
@FloridaManMatty
@FloridaManMatty Жыл бұрын
For anyone interested in fast moving ISR platforms that were both contemporary and subsequent to the SR-71, I would recommend researching the following subjects: - X-20 Dyna-Soar: take note of the date on this project and it’s design and similarities to a contemporary program “Dream Chaser”. - Convair Kingfish - Project Rheinberry - Project Isinglass (this one will be of particular interest) - Brilliant Buzzard - Copper Canyon - Copper Coast - “The Green Lady” - Intercepted radio traffic from a VERY fast mover code named “Gaspipe” - 1990’s Skyquakes Look at some of those. Go down the rabbit holes and read as much as you can find. Read between the lines. Also note line item budgets surrounding purchase of MASSIVE amounts of JP-7 (fuel only used by the SR-71 and Oxcart of planes) long after the SR-71 was cancelled. It’s a very unique fuel and SOMETHING is drinking it up. There are still KC-135Q/T tankers in service as well. WHY? The United States intelligence agencies do NOT give up capabilities once they have them. Whether it’s a Keyhole Satellite or a fast airplane.
@dextermorgan1
@dextermorgan1 Жыл бұрын
Best comment on this whole video. I didn't know JP7 was still used long after the Blackbird. Is it the only known aircraft that used it? If so that's very interesting. Also, the KC 135. Why does that matter? Did it have specific capeballities or something?
@TheTarrMan
@TheTarrMan Жыл бұрын
It's funny you mentioned Popular Science magazine. I was lucky enough to have a subscription to that as a kid. There was a number of projects that they did articles on that got turned into classified projects later. Not just the one you mentioned, but I remember that one though.
@JoeyCarb
@JoeyCarb Жыл бұрын
I know it's a lot harder these days for DoD to develop exotic tech in secret, but I have a feeling that we already have a functional and reusable hypersonic drone. We have already demonstrated all the needed technology and capabilities. Whether it's at the "multi-mission" stage right now is another question. Same thing for the dual mode engine. But I would be more surprised to find out we're not already capable of sending hypersonic drones into contested airspace.
@skyhorseprice6591
@skyhorseprice6591 Жыл бұрын
Well, I can say this. The USAF has claimed to already have a technology demonstrator flying for the NGAD (Next Generation Air Dominance, or in popular terms, the 6 gen fighter) program. Target date for NGAD? 2030. Target date for 'Darkstar'/'SR-72' ? Gosh golly gee, Beav. It's 2030. Could we be looking at the actual form of the NGAD? Are they gonna come out & blow everyone's mind with a hypersonic, hyperagile, and quite large '6gen' fighter with colossal range & payload capacity? Crap. I gotta stop, my tinfoil is melting...
@whyuhatan
@whyuhatan Жыл бұрын
Honestly way more cost-effective in my book just to develop some new missiles I mean come on even the bumbling Russians were able to develop a hypersonic missile and a nuclear torpedo
@Eradicationist
@Eradicationist Жыл бұрын
@@whyuhatan yes but they also fell behind in everything else.
@cooldudecs
@cooldudecs Жыл бұрын
@@whyuhatan hypersonic is just a fast missile
@skyhorseprice6591
@skyhorseprice6591 Жыл бұрын
@whyuhatan Thus far, everything that has been claimed about the Russian hypersonic missile, as well as Western efforts to create the same thing, appears to be more hype than reality. It actually makes more sense to me to do a hypersonic fighter/strike aircraft which can carry many missiles to target, than to do hypersonic missiles that cost more than a F-35 *for one missile* , and which take that $90 million or so and go blow up a target....and that's it. It's like using an F-35 filled with explosives and crashing it into a target! Just an amazing waste of money. At that price hypersonic missiles are a pipe dream, but perhaps the hypersonic fighter is not? It will be interesting to see.
@philipr.6090
@philipr.6090 Жыл бұрын
@@whyuhatan Did you mean the rocket torpedo/supercavitating torpedo? Because torpedos with nuclear warheads have been around since the 1950s or so.
@chadlawrence2240
@chadlawrence2240 Жыл бұрын
Awesome show keep it coming
@ahodbikes
@ahodbikes Жыл бұрын
I think this is some great snooping and speculation! Whether it's an SR-72 or some other hypersonic vehicle, your track makes sense! Thanks for being so clear about your intentions and making such an interesting video that stokes our fantasies!
@angelosasso1653
@angelosasso1653 Жыл бұрын
The real question is: What was Lockheed Martin thinking when they choose to help the movie with the design? Usually there is a strategy behind it. It could be Lockheed presenting itself in a bright light. Showing technology they don't have yet and other countries think they have to catch up and put a lot of money into it, not knowing pursuing this area to be a dead end. Alternatively it could be a ballsy taunt to the other competitors for whatever reason. There are a lot of comments and eyewitnesses, that live on the east coast saying, they have seen very fast aircrafts a dozen times. Of course this is not proof. But we know, that some hypersonic testing has been done in the past 20 years and that is the publically available information only. I was always wondering whether the US really stopped the whole Blackbird fleet or at least have something comparable. Spy satellites also have weakpoints. My guess is, that hypersonic platforms are either already here or will be soon, albeit I lean towards it being an unmanned vehicle or something comparable to Boeing's mini space shuttle. After all project pluto aimed for Mach 4.3 in the 50-60's. You might be able to push this by a bit with current active cooling apporaches as mentioned with the 3d-printing.
@hjplano
@hjplano Жыл бұрын
Attract talent.
@angelosasso1653
@angelosasso1653 Жыл бұрын
@@hjplano Could very well be...
@whyuhatan
@whyuhatan Жыл бұрын
I think it's a counterintelligence op to get our adversaries chasing shadows
@angelosasso1653
@angelosasso1653 Жыл бұрын
@@whyuhatan That's a valid tactic...
@LuvBorderCollies
@LuvBorderCollies Жыл бұрын
I'm wondering if this has any connection to Japan's intense interest in producing the "loser" to the F-22, the YF-23. Japan's govt has been making serious inquiries into refining the design and licensing for their production. Allegedly the YF-23 was less agile, but more stealthy & faster than the F-22. With a stealth aircraft, agility (dogfighting) should not be #1 concern over stealth and speed. With Japan right off the coast of hostile & aggressive Russia, a YF-23-ish aircraft seems a good fit. Oh yeh, then there's that hostile & aggressive Chy-na threatening to invade and crush everyone close to it. I'd be very concerned also. Oops...forgot about North Korea shooting missiles over Japan on purpose.
@kennethng8346
@kennethng8346 Жыл бұрын
One question I have from the movie was why the lack of sawtooth edges around the Darkstar cockpit that you see on other stealth aircraft. Personally I think the machine exists, but I bet its shaped differently than how we think (recall what people thought the steal fighter would look and how it actually looked.). Personally I can think of two possible power plants. First would be to update the SR71, turbojet for low speed, high volume bypass ducts around the engine core to feed just the afterburner in ramjet mode. To be honest I would be surprised if Pratt & Whitney didn't have this as a research project for decades. Second option, standard turbojet for low speed, then closing them off and employing external detonation engines to get up to hypersonic speed. There was some evidence of this about a decade ago being picked up on earthquake monitors. Then detection stopped. Did the flights really stop or did they change the transisition point to over the pacific ocean to hide from the earthquake monitors? Disclaimer: I have no inside knowledge, I'm just a random person on the internet.
@Ithirahad
@Ithirahad Жыл бұрын
When you're going at the speeds this platform is designed for, your "dark star" becomes more of a "bright star" and any prospect of stealth is kind of a joke. May as well skip the sawtooth.
@edgarmoreno2159
@edgarmoreno2159 Жыл бұрын
Love your knowledge based and well founded “speculation “ keep it up !!
@MrEmb007
@MrEmb007 Жыл бұрын
It’s not only real….it’s at best 90s-early 2000s tech. We are light years beyond it now. The fastest plane flown was the SR71 in the 70s, that was almost 60 years ago.
@ThomasLee123
@ThomasLee123 Жыл бұрын
Great stuff, Alex. Though the military does a great job of coverup, people are people and human mechanisms always hint at reality regardless of how many NDAs they sign.
@avroarchitect1793
@avroarchitect1793 Жыл бұрын
makes hiding what you're up to from the enemy rather difficult though
@asteve6537
@asteve6537 Жыл бұрын
@@avroarchitect1793 it's all about distractions.. while you're looking over here at the small hints, they are producing over there in silence
@arnoldsherrill2585
@arnoldsherrill2585 Жыл бұрын
As an aviation buff, there is only one word to describe this video.... yummy keep them coming
@hifinsword
@hifinsword Жыл бұрын
The limiting factor for the SR-71 was a thermal limit, not the engines pushing it. That was before the age of ceramics.
@matthewmosier8439
@matthewmosier8439 Жыл бұрын
I geeked out a little when the darkstar in the film swapped to scramjet power. I love conventional jet propulsion as a concept, but to see widespread use of scramjet power would be incredible.
@ronaldschoolcraft8654
@ronaldschoolcraft8654 Жыл бұрын
Having some experience in advanced, black military aircraft programs, I would be willing to bet that it is already flying.
@kylek29
@kylek29 Жыл бұрын
I wouldn't doubt if we hear that it's based on some existing prototype in the future. Remember that the Top Gun creators released the story that China repositioned satellites to take photos of "their Darkstar prop" (they didn't know it was a prob). A year or so ago, photos came out of a plane at Area51 somewhat matching the shape (from what you can make out). So a lot of this might just be an elaborate obfuscation of the real prototype. Put something similar into the public as a "prop" and suddenly all those sightings/images have something to link to. It's kinda like how a lot of UFO sightings / reports occur around black project development timelines, it's in the government's interest to steer into those as a form of cover.
@LuisR3yes
@LuisR3yes Жыл бұрын
Awesome video. Thank you and your team.
@MrDanielmarlowe
@MrDanielmarlowe Жыл бұрын
Great video! Excellent information
@Dave-du4xw
@Dave-du4xw 7 ай бұрын
Your Video Is Not Only Informative, But Entertaining I Liked It!
@despizedicon
@despizedicon 6 ай бұрын
You should do a seminar on this stuff. Been super into all things Skunk Works, since seeing the pictures of the SR 71 in the eighties.
@falcorthewonderdog2758
@falcorthewonderdog2758 Жыл бұрын
I spent a month at Rachel Nevada "lil Ale` Inn" near area 51 last spring. We watched several very interesting planes in the sky. One plane was triangular in shape and it matched the color of the sky. You could see a vague outline of a triangle followed by exhaust contrails. Very strange.
@RallyRacingVideo
@RallyRacingVideo Жыл бұрын
How big was the triangular plane? Did you see it approaching or flying from vicinty of Groom Lake?
@richardbaxter2057
@richardbaxter2057 Жыл бұрын
In 1992, I attended a lecturette at the Royal Aircraft Establishment Thurleigh (UK). The lecutrette was given by the Chief Test Pilot of the SR71, a man who had some input to the F117. He could not believe that the US would have withdrawn the SR71, unless they had something else to replace it. He, in his words, had not seen any evidence to suggest that the US, at that time, had. Convair, the Skunk Works competitor, did have a design to compete with the SK Wks SR71. This was known as Aurora. The design was folded and “disappeared”. Photos of the Convair Aurora model do exist.....
@Grantly
@Grantly 11 ай бұрын
Appreciate the honest intro.
@jklappenbach
@jklappenbach Жыл бұрын
One of the really exciting possibilities is the efficiency that can be reached with scramjets. I've seen some calculations that fuel consumption is reduced by an order of magnitude and possibly two for achieving such incredible speeds. This is largely due to the fact that current compressor designs slow the air down in order to accommodate ignition. This compression both sets an artificial ceiling to the top speed of the thrust, and requires more fuel to achieve that thrust. By achieving supersonic ignition (how the f...), they will unlock not only vastly greater speeds, but also ranges. Can't wait to see what Skunkworks produces.
@Werrf1
@Werrf1 Жыл бұрын
Speculation - they're not talking about a Scramjet aircraft. The statement by O'Banion, referring to "an incredibly sophisticated cooling system integral to the material of the engine itself" sounds a lot like the SABRE engine being developed by Reaction Engines in the UK. It's an engine that transitions from an air-breathing jet mode to a rocket mode, intended to be used for a single-stage to orbit spaceplane. The core innovation in the engine is the heat exchanger, an intricate system of pipes carrying liquid helium that's used to cool the air as it enters the engine during hypersonic flight. REI announced this year that they're working at a facility in Colorado to work on hypersonic testing, and the US military has publicly expressed interest in the technology.
@ADRIAAN1007
@ADRIAAN1007 Жыл бұрын
The SR-71 first flew in 1964 that's 58 years ago, given the numerus advances in aerospace, computer science, and material science there has to be a hypersonic test bed in the air for at least a few decades now
@kwameoluwasomi1518
@kwameoluwasomi1518 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, your speculation kept me. I'm here for the theories!
@solmanJapan
@solmanJapan Жыл бұрын
Real or not. I don't mind. It's just fun to be having these kinds of discussions and the level of detail you go to as well. Wow! Great video. Definitely earned my subscription.
@oldmanjohnson69
@oldmanjohnson69 Жыл бұрын
The SR-71 had a dual cycle engine. At a certain speed the air stream bypassed the turbine. People involved with the SR-71 admitted the aircraft could go Mach 3 at 80,000 ft. After reading about how the engines were developed, I would SPECULATE a HYPOTHETICAL max speed in excess of Mach 5 at 100,000 ft. Some of the engines still exist, so basing a new design on them, with some tweaking, a three stage may be possible, or a more advanced two stage. Either way, the SR-71 came out of the '60's, what we could do now is mind shattering.
@michaeldavidfigures9842
@michaeldavidfigures9842 Жыл бұрын
I once saw a classified film taken at Edward's AFB which showed a static engine test of one of the P&W J58 engines. Somehow it got posted on the internet late one night, but the post had been taken down by the next day. I occasionally still see still frames from that film now, but have never seen the film in its entirety since. Every aspect of its operation was clearly visible in great detail. Everything from the shock diamonds to the exhaust nozzle which was glowing so white hot it defies logic to understand how it remained intact rather than dissolving into a molten mass on the concrete in the hangar where the film was taken. Very impressive.
@maulidonda
@maulidonda Жыл бұрын
In an interview, director Joseph Kosinski did mention that the cockpit instruments were borrowed from a real experimental plane, and if I remember correctly, he also said they were flying a real experimental plane in the first take-off scene.
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