Los Angeles, California, USA - 2002 United States Figure Skating Championships, Ladies' Free Skate - Sasha Cohen placed 2nd in the Free Skate to win the Silver Medal.
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@sameoldsteph6 жыл бұрын
I've been rewatching these old competitions from when the US had amazing ladies skaters. I can't help but feel that while yes, Sasha and Michelle were fabulous, Jenny Kirk was always so robbed. I think back then when the spirals were required Jenny didn't have as good a spiral but aside from that and her often lacking footwork, Jenny was SO clutch. So beautiful on the ice, so consistent. Talk about a back that you could iron a shirt on. Anyway, I miss this kind of skating. (And I wish Sasha never added yellow to her Carmen dress.)
@oceanle3 жыл бұрын
This program was fun to watch. She’s a talented skater.
@karenhardmeyer9728 Жыл бұрын
The posture! Magnificent! There's NO leaning over of the body on jump takeoff. Sorry, but today's skaters' bodies are almost parallel to ice on takeoff! Not aesthetically pleasant. Sasha was brilliant!!!
@lorrivaughn30114 жыл бұрын
My favorite female skater of all time.
@karennoble49574 жыл бұрын
My favorite ice skater of all times too!! She had "it" all, talent, heritage of her ballet-gymnast family.her style is unique, combining mostly the graciousness of ballet And the athletism of a gymnast.and so likeable, great personality, great costumes she designed and using mostly classical music!!! in 2000 she took the world by surprise, at 15, her short program, introducing new techniques. She was a pioneer in iceskating and right into the new millenium. . She should have been all gold, unfortunately in the competitions it was her nerves that betrayed her.
This was a fantastic program and probably one of my favorites. (The other being her perfect swan lake performance at the 2004 Marshalls competition with no mistakes.) Her jumps seemed so powerful and high with this particular program and year. Too bad about the hand-down on the final sal, but it was forgivable 🙃
@aromaticchicken5184 жыл бұрын
that first double axel though
@adrian1237816 жыл бұрын
the commentator is really annoying!! the triple flip is not double footed and so what if she dont do a triple triple combination, don't look down on double jumps!!!
@user-hw4lt7yx5w3 жыл бұрын
Любимая фигуристка.
@mht49082 жыл бұрын
I like this dress better than the one she wore in the 2002 Olympic free skate
@AntonioMunoz-wc8zb3 ай бұрын
Did she win?
@eMCizzle12 жыл бұрын
She reminds me of the Russian female skaters of today. Of course, minus the quads and the jumps with the arm(s) over the head.
@s.jackson68859 ай бұрын
Sasha was robbed at this Nationals. She should have won the gold. Her spins, spirals, flexibility, and grace were far superior to Kwan.
@pgarciaAP4 ай бұрын
No. Just going to ignore the poor landings and hand down on the ice? People really wanted her to beat Kwan.
@liubaustariz86884 жыл бұрын
Otro oro robado!
@TT-ee4qp2 жыл бұрын
@@PanchoMaldonado-hf6rq And Michelle's artistry and technique were better than Tara, Tara was so unstable.
@ianscott97973 жыл бұрын
Very dull and boring
@theprinceoftides6836 Жыл бұрын
That's a bit harsh , as a lifelong M.K. fan , I've always appreciated Sasha's quality. She ain't never gonna be Michelle Kwan, nobody is, but I appreciate alotta of Sasha's beauty and uniqueness on ice. I was just glad I was around when 2 of the most beautiful skaters was competing at the same era.
@indysk8r3212 жыл бұрын
That dress is so simple (I know it was a practice dress) but it is so perfectly gorgeous and the fit is perfect and the shape of the skirt is wonderful. Some of the dresses I've seen on the women since then are just plain weird. I never saw Sasha in an ugly or unflattering dress for any of her competitions.
@Dylvente14 жыл бұрын
Thank you for putting this up!
@charizianne12 жыл бұрын
wow, that "@LWAYS A COHEN FAN" banner waved by the red-shirted guy at the end is fantastic...... XD
@LaTonyaStJames8 жыл бұрын
I like this girl a lot. She had real talent.
@troyaturner19799 жыл бұрын
Other than the hand down on the triple salchow, this was actually one of her better performances. At least she didn't fall throughout the competition like she normally does.
@diegocassere14 жыл бұрын
i really like the way she skates but she never do a real lutz she always flutzes... she would be the best, if she have had consistency. a great skater after all
@jjh24566 жыл бұрын
She repeated the 3salchow outside of a combination. She got a deduction for that on the first mark. That’s why Kwan won this night. This was a fantastic skate for her though.
@LORDADONIS355 жыл бұрын
She lost to Michelle Kwan that night because her program was not complete. The problem with Sasha was her always worrying about and obsessing with Michelle's popularity and success instead of concentrating on her own programs. Look at the way she ended her Carmen program--sloppy and incomplete. Even if she had not repeated the jump would have still lost because of the excess moves in her program. Michelle's program was consistant and complete with great flow technique and artistry--That's why she won and received 6.0's in presentation.
@ytyt39225 жыл бұрын
DAMON BROWN-DOBBINS what is your evidence that she was ever obsessing about Michelle’s popularity? And with fans Sasha was every bit as popular. Perhaps more so given Michelle’s legendary arrogance.
@erivera49285 жыл бұрын
@@ytyt3922 michelle was never arrogant. thats #1. Number #2 is that Sasha did express angst in a book about Michelle getting more attention. Remember Marshall's 2005, when they tried that american idol voting crap. Anyways, Michelle skated poorly and Sasha did well. But the audience gave Michelle the win. I think she even put it in a book about that experience. Look, Michelle is an icon of he sport. She earned it. She was and is very much beloved.
@ytyt39225 жыл бұрын
E Rivera Kwan regularly scoffed and made faces at marks she deemed unworthy, as if she was OWED high marks just for being Michelle Kwan. There’s no denying her greatness but she was also gifted many titles and medals. Sasha should rightly have beaten her at 2000 nationals and she should also have beaten Michelle for the bronze at the 2002 Olympics.
@averyfrederick57453 жыл бұрын
Yeah I thought I saw her do the two triple salchows, one she put the hand down but neither were in combination. I'm sure there was a deduction.
@3Axel199614 жыл бұрын
@maxthewonderpup I love how the other guy holding the sign got shafted from being on camera! LOL
@skatefan94958 жыл бұрын
Under 6.0, Sasha would have had to skate squeaky clean to be placed first here, since Michelle skated clean. When she put her hand down, it meant she would be second. Michelle also did more a more difficult combo. I do think Sasha deserved all 5.9s on the second mark.
@sebart93217 жыл бұрын
idolfan9495 i think cleanness shouldnt be everything. Sasha did many elements much better in my opinion.
@innerspirit33737 жыл бұрын
but her spirals, spins, footwork, artistry and posture is superior she should have won, but Kwan always was a favorite for American juries.
@jjh24566 жыл бұрын
Art Ardere Cleaness is everything. Always has been always will be.
@aspenrobinson87975 жыл бұрын
@@innerspirit3373 Kwan got really boring and always skated a safe program kwan was so great when she was younger, but got boring and didn't deserve to keep winning. Her edges were always cheated, never had a triple triple and going without a coach..I mean she really thought she was something and knew more than her coach.
@erivera49285 жыл бұрын
@@aspenrobinson8797 really? where did you get all that gossip from? she lutz edges were better than most, she had deep edges while skating as well, and she did plenty of 3-3 in her career...not to mention, she had lots of programs where she skated clean.
@DPauyo7611 жыл бұрын
For me, Sasha Cohen was and still is the epitome of skating perfection even though she didn't win multiple US championships as the overhyped Michelle Kwan...No other female figure skater had the gorgeous posture, balletic stretch and artistic impression as Sasha....She was by far even better than Michelle Kwan!!...Miss those fantastic days of pure figure skating!!...Miss you Sasha!!... 😘👍👏💃🏿⛸🌈
@elfology7 жыл бұрын
Oksana Baiul was better, and Michelle is Queen!
@emilythompson17466 жыл бұрын
Like Nastia Liukin, she had tremendous flexibility and was sometimes unreliable technically, but was magnificent to watch when she hit.
@reubenkeyz51316 жыл бұрын
If only Sasha didn’t fall so much! But that’s the sport. If only they had a competition with just spins and spirals, she would win.
@jjh24566 жыл бұрын
Emily Thompson yeah but Nastia could hold it together when it counted. Sasha could not.
@TressBraga6 жыл бұрын
I don't really care how you feel about Kwan, but when you say Cohen was the best, you gotta back it up. Name two long programs that she skated flawlessly in her entire career. Sasha had many remarkable qualities . . . but she had no intestinal fortitude nor the heart of a champion. Her spirals had a high leg extension, but her edges were really shallow.
@brittanykoum61229 жыл бұрын
Does anyone know her final placement at these nationals?
@ayanna63275 жыл бұрын
She won silver
@EEDiazL9 жыл бұрын
Not even with the repetition could Dick Button see that Sasha's 2Toe after her 3Flip WAS NOT DOUBLEFOOTED! I think whenever any competitor(s) skated equally well or better than Michelle Kwan, he was just not able to take it and criticize their programs trying to find faults! Other than the repeated 3Salchow with a hand touch on the ice, THERE WERE NO OTHER FLAWS IN THIS PROGRAM DICK!!!!
@psylockheart8 жыл бұрын
+Incredible Mann i think he meant the triple flip was double footed, not the double toe. He was messing up with his words. He's an old guy. And the triple flip was double footed in that combination
@JimmyZoole8 жыл бұрын
+Dan The triple flip was plain as day NOT double footed. Neither of the jumps in that combination were, and how anyone could mistake them for having been is beyond me.
@psylockheart8 жыл бұрын
+Dennis G you are right. i apologize. i didnt see the slow motion at the end of the video.. it really was clean as day. but i do admit it did seem double footed in the program for some reason.
@innerspirit33737 жыл бұрын
yes! She just had wable in the flip making it not as perfect.
@bordeauxhouse5 жыл бұрын
Dick Button loved Sasha's skating. He always championed her great qualities and hoped for her to perform to full potential.
@3Axel199614 жыл бұрын
@maxthewonderpup LOL..you stole his spotlight! LOL
@charizianne12 жыл бұрын
@WickedProductions100 it does not matter who skated first! remember that judges can always deliberately give a skater lower marks if they want other skaters to win, and that can be done no matter when a skater gets to perform during the whole event. That goes true for any skater, no matter what her last name is, whether Cohen or Kwan or Smith or Brown or White or whatever!
@charizianne12 жыл бұрын
@maxthewonderpup does that mean that you yourself are "the other guy holding the sign who got shafted from being on camera"?? LOL!!!
@3Axel199614 жыл бұрын
@maxthewonderpup Do you REALLY want to know what I think? LOL
@metsdudenj5 жыл бұрын
She deserved gold here and bronze in SLC
@erivera49285 жыл бұрын
nope
@TT-ee4qp Жыл бұрын
No way.
@troy051511 жыл бұрын
especially when she put her hand down, she done that much better than Michelle for sure!
@snopesshop19036 жыл бұрын
The best
@snowballwannabe11 жыл бұрын
2002 was a National Title robbed to Sasha Cohen.
@LORDADONIS355 жыл бұрын
She wasn't robbed--Michelle was better. Sasha's achilles heal was her excessive moves and lack of completion of her programs. She wanted to be Michelle Kwan and have her popularity, but never quite achieved that feat.
@ytyt39225 жыл бұрын
2000 national title should’ve been hers too.
@erivera49285 жыл бұрын
@@ytyt3922 2002 was a clear victory. 2000, it was a coin toss, she wasn't clean either.
@erivera49285 жыл бұрын
@@LORDADONIS35 you are right, she "looks" pretty on the ice, but she was always blah. No facial emotions whatsoever. Michelle did less choreography later on, but the passion she put on the ice is what always gave her the edge. SHe just knew how to perform that's all. Sasha was always more reserved.
@ronnieconner2594 жыл бұрын
Never one of my favorites, No particular reason, just something about her I didn't like except she had a great skating technique, and posture!
@piznoctsauo81417 жыл бұрын
She should've won that National title.
@jjh24566 жыл бұрын
Piznoc Tsauo She repeated the salchow outside of a combination. She was deducted on that on the first mark. She was not going to beat Kwan with that.
@erivera49285 жыл бұрын
@@jjh2456 even without that salchow she didn't have enough artistically to pull ahead of Kwan.
@dinh55323 жыл бұрын
Hand down on a jump? No way no how.
@Tadju506 жыл бұрын
None Lovelier...
@andysimmons18428 жыл бұрын
Thank god that we don't have to listen to Dick Button rambling on TV anymore!
@barkingtree888 жыл бұрын
I'd listen to Dick and Peggy over Tara and Johnny any day!
@piznoctsauo81417 жыл бұрын
That!
@ferdyspears6 жыл бұрын
Dick is a national treasure in skating. His commentary, while unique only helped to elevate the skaters. He always gave you a point of reference. And called out ugly skating when it was needed. I know I enjoyed his commentary and I'm sure I'm not alone.
@kb56302 жыл бұрын
Oh goodness, same here!
@theprinceoftides6836 Жыл бұрын
@@ferdyspears FkN A. With Dick, U get an honest no BS commentary, unlike the vanilla ice boring contrite shite we get nowadays at NBC. With Uncle Dick it's straight as an arrow heart on his sleeves no bs stuff. And I wouldn't have it any other way.
@snopesshop19036 жыл бұрын
Better than Kwan
@TT-ee4qp2 жыл бұрын
Michelle kwan was a artist, Sasha just had some beautiful posts.
@mmmbeijing9 жыл бұрын
I like this dress also but the yellow one she wore at one point was HORRIBLE! overall sasha should have gone for this balletic look. when she designed her own costumes...not so good!