Bmw supra 🤣

Just reading the words stiff corolla rubs me the wrong way.

Corolla, but make it ✨stiff!✨

S T I F F C O R O L L A. Givin me hella RCR vibes lmao

@@802Garage Its stiffer than a 94 Celica lol

I'm 72. It reminds of my 1974 Corolla SR5. Lots of fun.

"Toyota Corolla Apex is basically a middle-aged man wearing Yeezys." And you decided this how? LOL! Have you ever seen one, much less being in one, yet? LOL!

@Richard Favreau Do you own a Corolla or something?

@Richard Favreau You've made a whole bunch of pro-Corolla posts on this video. Why do you love the Corolla so much?

Brad Comis lol I think he’s a corolla fanboy. 😭😭😭

Supercar PASS

hahaha man that was good

Memes. Memes everywhere

Hilarious

I wonder how this car handles in cliche cornfield.

We should be getting a GR Corolla in 2022 I believe.

Jaime Velazquez its nitpicky but its not the yaris, is massive and is heavier so that strung out 3 cylinder turbo will be struggling or wont have the same feeling as it would in that tiny yaris

@@jaimevelazquez765 They could call it the GoRolla. 😄 (And the YaGRis ... at least the gray version.)

JustAnotherHouseCat Well the current corolla isn’t that much heavier than the Yarris GR. The Corolla weighs 3,060 lbs and the Yarris is about 2,800 lbs so I don’t think it’ll be that much different in performance

It's our fault for not buying subcompacts like the rest of the planet and just buying big ass trucks and SUV's

I think the cop has already a prey.

He only slowed down because he was at a turn…

😂😂😂😂😂💯

Raptor.Tremor The don’t buy one, buy a Ford Focus. Oh wait, Ford doesn’t make those anymore since the Corolla outsold that garbage mobile by a ratio of about 10,0000 to 1.

@@speakingtruths4215 I wouldn't buy either of them.

Speaking Truths for a guy named “speaking truths” you sure are prone to fallacious reasoning. 1) saying this is overpriced isn’t praising the Ford Focus, so your vituperative comment is irrelevant. 2) Saying this trim is overpriced isn’t a condemnation of the corolla more broadly.

@@speakingtruths4215 Why so salty? lol

And a droning harsh 4-banger thrashing its Euro4 emissions heart out.

@@admiralstiffplank I'm sure that technology directly reflects a CVT in an $18k economy car.

technically the ct gives apex gear ratios lol

This is a Lexus grade CVT with a physical first gear. Yes, the 2021 Lexus UX 200 has the same CVT. I would much rather have this CVT than a harsh shifting DCT.

@@braetonwilson4296 Same. I’d rather have a well designed, responsive CVT then a jerky unreliable DCT

With the new Mazda 3 turbo and AWD hatch for only a little more, it’s hard to see what toyota is even trying sell. If you want something with more room for modification, get an SI or Veloster. It just doesn’t make sense and Toyota is falling behind.

@@Cozmozmoz I feel like the Si is the easiest car to deal with modifying I'd be kinda worried about the N boi. Hopefully Mazda can sell enough to keep real automatics around haha never thought I'd say that while my only 2 cars are stick.

@@RCXDerp I'd be worried about the N as well, but at least it has options for enthusiasts. Compared to the gen4 mazda 3, which wasn't built with that in mind at all really, haha. However, I see the market Mazda is trying to carve with the new gen4/ gen4 turbo/ awd, and it's sort of the market I'm in at my current stage of life. I see where Honda is keeping its place for enthusiasts even though they really need to update their offerings and current reliability. I have absolutely no idea what Toyota is trying to achieve right now. They update exteriors to look radical, but continue to make really poor interior choices in material and outdated design. They add power, but continue to make their cars couches on wheels that feel unbalanced outside driving the highway. I don't think they have a clear trajectory other than making their cars appear "sportier and more attractive."

This car doesn't make sense on two main counts. 1. The price, @miles traysandor is correct. 2. The CVT, that nurfs any possible "fun", real first gear or not.

300+WHP '19 GLI here for less than 24k OTD and after mods...

Literally, with the wheels according to the corollas i see

Unfortunately not in a way I would recommend at all. It’s too bland.

Not true the ae92 and 101 fxgt corollas are hot hatchbacks they are very fun to drive lightweight and powerful

no the 9th gen is stiff too

It cost the same as the new GTI... How anyone could buy this over the GTI is beyond me.

Exactly

They've rested on their laurels and they're not even pretending.

@@pnourani Right? or the new gen Mazda3. More power, sporty driving, nicer interior, similar price. Mind boggling

Perry people who value their own sanity will avoid the GTI

@druss999 what he did????

druss999 yes, please do tell!!

We aren't allowed to mention that name around here

I heard that SavageGeese wanted Turbowski to have his baby, when he refused, Savage kicked him off his channel.

Another at 4:36

Considering the 4Runner has a drivetrain and gas mileage from 1986, I wouldn’t hold my breath.

@@DanUtley I get 19mpg on my lifted 2013 4runner with Toyo AT3 tires. Mileage isn't that bad 😉

Car INTERIOR Hahaha. You’re looking for more power from a Corolla? Not happening.

Like 200 would have been nice maybe 250.

Hopefully that 257hp GR Corolla gets to production. 🤞

yea well thats capitalism, foo and you dont complain about that. what are people willing to pay. you can haggle the dealer to a lower price too.

Absolutely. A way that Toyota can attempt to sell a Corolla for $30k. I love my Corolla but not for $30k.

@@bluesky5384 if I can find the apex for 20k.new is it a good deal?

@@rx3la I'm no expert but I'd think so considering that's considerably lower for what it's going for sticker.

Who's hardcore and wants a CVT? Totally missed the mark

It’s a ripoff as most Toyota’s are. They assume people want to buy it because they have a reputation or quality. But I don’t like the design or dynamics

Kevin Le no kidding 30k for this trash. Better off with an SI. Toyota is dead when it comes to real enthusiasts and this is only raising the price of JDM imports. Chasers jzx100 soarers and supras

There's a sliding tab on that visor but for some unknown reason he didn't use it...

You might as well just buy the Toyota 86. This APEX Corolla is stupid as hell.

That’s just it Toyota is charging 29kdollars for a 160hp lol wtf.. u can buy a civic si for 26k loaded up with a quick turbo motor 205hp

All toyota's look like fridge's. nothing looks good. The last good Toyota's were made in the 90's

A turbo 4 with 200hp would be fantastic option 👍

d1zguy hey hey hey they made the mr2 for like 2 years into the 2000s technically

@Richard Favreau you dont see it when you drive it. The Corolla doesn't look good at all anyway

“Esoteric?” Lmao

i had to take my own time to read that second hashtag

Hit by a parked car, tripped over a cordless phone

The man, the myth, the legend

😆

I wonder if there's rev hang?

It's ironic because this thing almost costs as much as the base trim WRX...

You can still get a 2L NA Civic manual still those are a good reliable car if you need to put 200k on something.

For $21k you can get a Civic Sport sedan. NA engine. VTEC. Manual transmission. I have one. It's a blast.

Your missing out on the Civic Sport with the 1.5. Much better then this car

Waiting for that lawsuit!

He thought about testing it. I could tell.

Ryad Hasan Ahmed SE-upgrade manual is plenty. This one is such a POS

Recently had a Acura ILX Apex as a loaner. The lag was awful upon acceleration.

They gimped the back seat on the hatch though

@@officialyasir what's up with the back seat?

owen k it’s much smaller than the hatchback

EXACTLY!

I'd say cool to buy in 2 yrs after the initial depreciation. The problem is they will be hard to find due to the low production numbers.

Since they are limiting production of them it's gonna be a situation where even though and is over charged right now they're so rare that to gonna keep their value Especially the manual even now it's a pretty stupid trim and a pretty stupid car

@Richard Favreau having money in the bank does not make a wise person foolish with it. Wake up little snoozy.

@Richard Favreau yes, Jesus is coming back very soon. All the signs are there.

@Richard Favreau yea if I'm gonna splurge to buy a car to gave fun with it sure as hell wouldn't be this. Get over it, this car isn't worth the money. Too many better cars at the price

I can see a very small number of people for whom this makes sense, but it really is overpriced. Lowered springs, summer tires, and stiffening up a few other minor bits shouldn't coat $3000+. If they were only expecting to sell a few hundred amortizing the development costs would push the price up tgat much, but this isn't going to.be a rarity and will likely be made for several years. I kind of wonder if they've just decided to spread out the improvements over several years, as they've done with the 86's incremental improvements. Maybe the Apex will get engine improvements next year. I hope so.

Is just a corolla but they put shitty ebay spec coilovers in it from factory so it rides like a shopping cart.

He is called excusesgeese for a reason

Damn you found a good deal on a GTI. I wanted a GTI but couldn't find one priced that low so I settled for a new GLI

Japanese cars are overpriced as hell. They coast off of their "rEliAbIlE" reputation. Nothing more.

@Richard Favreau yea but the Apex specifically is more expensive than its German counterpart. The corrola apex also has less HP and a lower quality ride and interior than its german counterpart. Sorry but id rather spend 24k on a car that is actually quick and fun to drive with a bearable interior vs a 30k corrola with a few minor modifications

@Richard Favreau ivlooked at the corrola and the interior was the cheapest thing iv ever sat in. The exterior is OK but the GLI I bought it leaps and bounds more attractive, doesn't have a shitty CVT and is much better inside. Yea its not 16k off the lot but a regular jetta would be. I admit I wouldnt buy a regular jetta but id pick an equivalent subaru or a honda over a corrola

@Richard Favreau I call the corolla cheap because compared to the jetta styling wise and interior quality wise its a piece of shit. Ill give it reliability yes but its horribly ugly to sit in and the buttons made me cringe when I used them. Id rather buy a subaru with the same quality interior as the corrola but at least it has all wheel drive.

I'm jealous. I really wanted that car to come to the US. Now we get an overpriced Corolla with 169hp. I have no interest in the GR Corolla either unless it has those wide fenders like the GR Yaris along with awd.

I call it the YaGRis.

I'm in the UK and I'm gonna order one soon, can't fucking wait it's the only new car I'm interested in buying

Toyota is teasing a hot hatch on the upcoming section on the website. www.toyota.com/upcoming-vehicles/gr-hot-hatch/ So GR Corolla confirmed idk.

@@nfscamilo4 Don't get your hopes up. Considering it's for the US market, I think it's gonna be a GR SUV. 😆

I can see where they are going with the Toyota corolla GR if this is already at 30k.

@@aseeds7785 I think it's going to be really close to the Civic type R price range. If the GR Corolla doesn't sell well then toyota is gonna say well, we made a performance car but no one wanted to purchase it so it's back to hybrids, SUVs, and collaboration for their performance cars.

That's good money 🤡

I was epically disappointed by that engine. I'm sure it has more zoot than this, but it's definitely not impressive, at least not lugging the IS chassis around.

I would prefer rwd with a manual transmission

It's Toyota; they're not the type to take the extra step.

@@jhelmsing dude the engine in the corolla apex is pathetic, like 169 hp for 3000ish lbs (~1400kg) is sad in a world with the si and veloster turbo (and even new Mazda 3 for a more lux less sport buy). The 2.0t from the lexus would be a different beast in the lil corolla than it is in the old heavy IS. This car dissapoints me, but I have hope with the 86 refresh rumored and the supra, that Toyota will at least ignore enthusiasts a little less. Either that or the Koreans and Honda will keep those sales with the excellant civic and veloster.

@@m1l3s27 I get it. I just think Toyota overall has moved steadily away from the enthusiast realm. They (like BMW) are slapping F-sport and TRD badges on SUV's and trucks, putting TRD badges and appearance packages on lukewarm Camrys, refuse to put an actual powerplant in the 86, and sell a rebadged BMW as a Supra now. They're not at all capable of making a stirring driver's car at this point, and like most of their other engines, that turbo I4 is near the bottom of the pile in terms of actual performance. They need to quit phoning it in with these half baked efforts or just commit fully to making economical reliable commuter cars and forget whatever sporty aspirations they have. They're suffering from an identity crisis.

Esteban T. With FWD? Toyota started going down hill in the name of profits since the ae111. FWD is just cheaper to make and package. Main reason why they stopped rwd cars and they still don’t care to create a competitive rwd platform. I’d much rather pay 20k for a real ae86 trueno over this trash

Esteban T. the Corolla XRS from the mid 2000s would like to have a word with you

Alex Oh yeah the 06 corolla sport. That was a nice car. It went very unnoticed

d1zguy Yeah that’s all true. The preference over FWD is their slogan of safety+ all your reasons. Too bad they won’t even try an AWD special limited edition with 200hp range You’re right I’d rather build my own for $20k too

How is the back seat?

Gary Crispin 🤷🏾‍♂️because it'll probably last for 30 years or you hate going to the mechanic💁🏾‍♂️

A H All the excitement of driving a Corolla for 30 years. No thanks lol. Although, in a manual variant it probably would be sufficiently fun for all those years.

@@AH-bm4ts You could get a Mazda3 fully loaded for the same price, be nearly as reliable/hassle free, and have a significantly better car across the board.

Because #toyotafanboys. They'll eat up anything Toyota.

I'd like to drive a car for more than 20k mi before doing the engine. There are videos of people driving the N off the lot and the engine throws a rod. (yes the actual average for failure 60k mi, but starts making noise around 23k mi.) when is the last time you heard of a Toyota having a engine-related problem? last one I can think of is the gas pedal thing in like 2010, and was basically a floor mat problem, OH NO. Never buy KDM. its just not worth it.

Meanwhile it will last until 2090

Seems like the cluster used is out of a lower trim, like an LE. Higher end models have a nicer looking cluster, but I think the reason they stuck to the lower trim one was because it’s something that would be appealing to people buying a more sporty focused model. I think the cluster looks nice, it would be really suited if the car was a manual. It would annoy me if I was driving a manual with a digital gauge. If you’re getting an auto I guess you’d be disappointed, but maybe you should get something else to begin with.

It'll last longer than your car

It’s the only reason why I bought this car. I originally wanted a Camry because of the conventional auto (I dislike regular CVTs). I test drove a Corolla with this CVT and liked it a lot , feels much more like an automatic than a CVT.

Lol. At least it's not a money pit!

zoom zoom

Hello rev match! :D how are you?

99_Fiαt_Multiplα Doing ok!

Richard Favreau Well ok then! 😅

TRD Camry V6.

But it’s a Kia, the corolla will outlive the Kia Atleast 10x

eVerProductions1 I agree more or less but it’s all relative I guess if you wanna drive the same Toyota forever or not

Richard Favreau I respectfully disagree

Richard Favreau def. and I totally agree about turbos being less reliable over time. I used to love them but now I prefer naturally aspired. I think the Forte GT is personally awesome looking and packed super nice for the money. Toyota has an amazing reputation for quality. I’ve never driven / had one tho

Smile which problem bro?

No fake engine noise. Smaller size.

The new GTI and Mazda 3 hatch are the same price. You have to be stupid to buy this over those.

@@JRZ67 Fair enough.

an XSE manuals can be had for low $20s and no rev hang.

I feel like the SI is not worth it if you can get an ex with a manual and the type R is only 10k more, might as well pay the extra 10k for 100+ hp and less value depreciation

That is a very good deal

I had a corolla hatch and the insurance was more than my wrx. $800 a year for my wrx and the corolla was like $1300

@@Trex6767 Thats forked up man, the only reason I stay away from WRXs and Zs are the insurance.

in some countries cars are just ridiculous cheap, 30k for a luxury specced rav4 that like insanely cheap. Almost for free. You know what a specced out rav4 hybrid costs in the Netherlands? 57000 USD. medium specced corolla hybrid in the netherlands? 35000 USD . Its ridiculous and the reason why everyone here drives 10 year old cars.

@Richard Favreau I paid $30k USD for my RAV4 hybrid XSE in Canada. I paid $39,300 CAD all in for it.

GLI destroys itself...literally. The engine will blow before you can say “reliable”.

Everyone online says they want a manual yet the sales numbers don’t back that up

No, the 2020 Honda Accord Sport manual, always hard to find and now admittedly done (none made since 2019, I think?) - that should make you sad. This Corolla? Not so much. Toyota sucks the fun out of virtually everything, even manual transmissions, when it comes to mass market vehicles.

Part of the Toyota marketing...the other 5800 or so Corollas will probably be sold to those unsuspecting, non-enthusiast appliance buyers looking for at LE or base SE and go, "oh look a Corolla that looks so sporty with that wang", I'll go get that one instead. Then they will get punished with that stiff ride.

@@blautens I bought a 6-speed 2020 hatch this year, without knowing how to drive a manual (bought this as a second car, I'm keeping my automatic). Anyway, this car was super easy to learn to drive. I failed in the past to learn manual, and I'm so happy I finally learned. I'm 35 years old, and I've been wanting to learn to drive a manual for many years. The Corolla might not be the most exciting, but it excels as a "training car" for someone like me, who wants to learn to drive stick.