Yep, Everyday Driver just released their first video. Same colour, I think.

Yes, I was just wondering Why the Heck is everyone buying the same car. Buy the new Z or the new upcoming Type R. This seems like some undercover Toyota marketing stunt.

It's certainly a much-better value than the 4-cylinder Supra.

@@fr1571 these cars were extremely popular early on KZfaq and you see them at almost all track days. they are like owning a Porsche for half price. cheap to maintain and they handle like a dream. i owned 1 before and plan to buy the new one

@@fr1571 most of these KZfaqrs have previously owned a brz and liked it enough to buy the new one. Not too complicated

You nailed it. That's what I like about these videos also. He and Mark don't assault our senses and insult our intelligence with terrible music and strobe light cut scenes. This is my favorite car review channel.

Still enjoying it? Any issues?

If it were between 86 and the Z, I'd personally go for the Z. But man this new 86 definitely makes it a tough choice

I've got a 330whp Z and while it's a lot of fun I can't deny the new 86 is very attractive

Don’t forget the ND2 Miata…

Chassis vs motor

The Z is so desirable but it feels so out of reach where as the 86 feels more practical for the price point alone

Brz. It’s more comfortable, apparently.

Dude if you can make that switch make sense than do it!

But the GR86 is faster

@@jansonb482 In what ways, and why? Same engine, same transmissions and gearing (?). Weight should be within a few pounds, and drag too. Or do you mean faster around a track? (Vs straight acceleration times )

@@scottanthony3426 I've read some articles (can give you the sources if you want) and the laptimes were quicker by roughly half to a full second on a race track. They say that at low speed both suspension settings work differently and that the 86 turns in quite a bit faster wheres in the BRZ you have quite a lot more understeer. Its all in suspension settings, 86 is faster but the BRZ is more comfortable to drive on public

Its phenomenal but its gets worse gas mileage than a pickup.

@@singular9 who cares. Go buy a Prius.

@@ToroMoto exactly

@@singular9 21 MPG around the city and 31 in the highway is not too bad. I mean it is a sports car, you can't buy one and expect to save gas like a Prius. . lol

My point is everything with cars is "give and take". They actually listened to all the criticism from the first gen and made real improvements. I'm happy the direction the car went, and now looking to get a second gen myself. If I want fuel economy and low cost if ownership, I'll pickup a 15 year old Corola or Civic.

How much did you get it including the mark up? And how long? I wanna buy too it’s really a good looking car.

Thank god savagegeese picked up one too so we don’t have to watch those clowns.

@@PH-fz9cj if you don’t like them, don’t watch them. They’re 2 great guys giving us another option

@@PH-fz9cj I love both channels but this ones been slipping lately. Production values are going down and apparently they've hired a rodeo clown to pick out the music.

Yawn bring back the s2000

Paul and todd are great people. They were actually at the same wave of the launch event as us.

Here I was, thinking im crazy for considering this car to replace my M7 C7 as well. That or a supra.

@@Doing_The_Thing These cars and Miatas can actually be enjoyed at street legal speeds

I drive a 2020 in New Jersey, and it held up pretty damn well. Obviously you guys are gonna deal with way more snow, but more power certainly isn't going to hurt in bad weather either. It's a damn solid daily if you can deal with the cargo and noise limitations.

@@AntiGrizz I drive a v6 accord coupe right now so I can definitely deal with less cargo! Thanks glad to hear your experience!

@@Gamertrip4life I drive a civic coupe in WI and I wouldn't want to get a nice car like 86 and daily it here.

I live in Michigan and have been worried about the winters here too, especially with all of the potholes. Another KZfaqr called "The Topher" used to daily a first gen BRZ here in Michigan and just bought a 2022 model. He talks about his winter driving experiences in a couple different videos and says it handles great with good snow tires.

@@r.j.bedore9884 yeah I love topher, and him not only faulting one back then but reupping again really does make me hopeful that it’s something I can do. I don’t know, hopefully one day they’ll have enough inventory that I can test drive and make a much more informed decision.

I got my BRZ early December and got an Invidia N2, an MTec clutch spring, scuff protectors, light up door sill and a wireless CarPlay adapter. I’m waiting on my black duckbill which albeit not colormatched should look good on my sapphire blue. I plan to get my roof wrapped black too. A steering wheel wrap and shift knob when I figure out what color I’m going with because the outside is blue but the stitching is red. (Damnit Subaru! Should’ve went with the GR which has grey stitching and less chrome). Coil-overs and headers will have to wait…least till a tune is out. P.S. Sapphire blue is nice but a b#%ch to keep clean or prestige.

Same - looks like a good candidate for my mid-life crisis car.

How do you have a supercharger on it if the ECU hasn’t been cracked and tuned? Sorry if I think you’re full of shit. Unless you got a 1st gen, not the same car bruh.

@@Rob165x based on all he said, he's strictly speaking about video games.

Why would anyone who can afford daily track time be driving this - no matter how modified. Sorry, don't buy it.

It flew over y'all's heads, he was joking sheesh

@@mikeyKnows_ it’s a half assed joke. There’s people that have done more than that minus the power gain. js, half assed sarcasm. And yes, someone has done weight reduction even.

Porsche should something honorable for the enthusuaist mortals. Something like a manual only Cayman T spec lent out to the Cupra brand so it can be sold affordably without the badge tax.

Usually what they do for views then they go off and buy whatever’s new down the road.

More than bought the Zupra since its half the price.

Finally found a comment that was real. All the other kids in here are having internet ganbangs with each other over this “kids toy” 86 🤣

Might be ok since there’s hardly any options to choose from.

You can’t, Toyota goes by allocations, you pretty much tell them what you want and they try to find the closest spec for you.

Damn are these that high in demand? I hope it wont be a issue in a year

You still can old chap

I have a Veloster N. I'm not sad about how that car performs. It's very quick.

@@alexduey7868 I'll get a GR86 in a few years, once depreciation hits them. Trying to pay off the N before I get anything else lol

Veloster N looks like a great performer. Really considering that and the GR 86

If you're complaining that a Gen1 Hachi Roku is slow you're missing the point of the car. It wasn't made to compete with hot hatches, it's made to compete with the mx-5, Aka a front engine rear wheel drive go kart that you can push to its absolute limit (relatively) safely.

Hey dude just so you know "a total pile" is shorthand for " a total pile of shit". (Like it's not a good car). I think you interpreted that to mean that it's a complete package/ solid unit. Hope that helps!

@@mrSpencer1229 i have a somewhat dry sense of humor.

Lol i was a bit confused reading this

@@oleyeller3256 me using HIS words yes.

Out of curiousity - what do you prefer more w/ the Miata?

Interesting, have an ND1 and I'm looking at the new 86 🤔

It’s a joke, the savagegeese boys are always making tongue in cheek statements. But it’s also pretty obvious that people do give some consideration to the image a car gives them. It’s like someone who brags about not caring what clothes they wear. They do care- it’s just showed in a different way

@@ryanj116 I have a good feeling that wasn't a joke Chris. I have a very good feeling that people would actually ask that question. Kind of like how you would ask the same question if you look cool in your classic V8 ego car. There are people that ask those questions. For example years ago somebody at my job got a brand new G37 and I said that's a girl's car as a joke. But he took it seriously and he told me that he looked on Google and they said that it wasn't a girl's car and Men are fine to drive it as well and he also told me that's why you got it and read so he can block out the windows and rims so it looks more like a guy's car.... so he took my joke seriously that's to prove me right about something else that I was saying before. It's a joke that most guys need a vehicle to feel more masculine because of their low testosterone

In Forza Horizon

@@lw1878 i don't think this car is in Forza.

The Ukrainian bride should be less violent and controlling

Why would a channel targeting an car enthusiasts get a Corolla? Go to read/watch Edmunds if you want that. 86 and Miata are cars that don't cost as much as other sports cars. Nowhere close. Tires and brakes last way longer and aren't anywhere close as expensive to replace as something on a Corvette or even a Camaro.

Then buy the base car and just get the factory ppf which is like 600 bucks. For the price its a great capable car if you want to track it, comes in a manual, ect.... Why are you surprised everyone is buying one? Ownership costs we shall see, will definitely be cheaper to own compared to the supra and m440 you mentioned, also better looking and again with a manual.

Your first two sentences are completely contradictory - "everyone is buying these", "why not buy something that everyone will be buying" - you sort of answer your own question in a backwards way. Also, perhaps they're buying GR86s because that's what they want to own and spend their money on?

@@kamilb8232 it reviews all kinds of cars. This isn't a super car channel that reviews cars people can't buy

@@oficina_moomoo ever seen Toyotas factory ppf lmfao

Do you have that blacked out cars insta? Or a video of it on another channel?