Savate Chasse VS Karate Side Kick

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Kevin Lee

Kevin Lee

10 ай бұрын

Today I have a few special guests, Professor Nicolas Saignac, ‪@SenseiSeth‬ and ‪@KARATEbyJesse‬ join me talking about side kicks!
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@KevinLeeVlog
@KevinLeeVlog 9 ай бұрын
For those who are interested to learn Savate online from Professor Nicolas, please check out savate.teachable.com/
@channelofpublication
@channelofpublication 9 ай бұрын
Hard to beat a live class, he had us moving the full 4+ hours
@bashton74
@bashton74 9 ай бұрын
Love your work Kevin. Savate has fascinated me for years being that I love kicks 😊
@flowrepins6663
@flowrepins6663 9 ай бұрын
​@@channelofpublicationis really hard to find savate schools better online than nothing
@joshcrawley1937
@joshcrawley1937 10 ай бұрын
watching jesse bring someone to their knees with just his legs whilst casually talking is nuts
@mesa577
@mesa577 10 ай бұрын
low key think jesse doesn't like kevin.
@KevinLeeVlog
@KevinLeeVlog 10 ай бұрын
He is so sharp on his form!!
@sullyb23511
@sullyb23511 10 ай бұрын
@@mesa577 Not funny, and definitely not true.
@strikingmachine2975
@strikingmachine2975 10 ай бұрын
@@KevinLeeVlog where is this dojo located?
@SenseiWu12
@SenseiWu12 9 ай бұрын
@@mesa577idk he just sounds kinda tired
@ecth97
@ecth97 10 ай бұрын
“Touching without being touched” as a fundamental principle especially makes a lot of sense as savate evolved out of sword dueling, as you can’t exactly afford to trade blows with a sword for too long
@HepCatJack
@HepCatJack 9 ай бұрын
The vocabulary of escrime is also used as the hit by the point of a rapier is called "touché" which means touched.
@DesiRush1
@DesiRush1 9 ай бұрын
It is the coolest thing in the world to me that all my favorite martial arts youtubers I've followed separately for years are now in a Superfriends League and collaborating with each other and furthering the cultivation of martial arts together every week. MORE TEAM-UPS, PLEASE!!!
@KevinLeeVlog
@KevinLeeVlog 9 ай бұрын
Let me assemble everyone together soon!
@PHIplaytesting
@PHIplaytesting 9 ай бұрын
Avengers assemble
@silverwolf6194
@silverwolf6194 10 ай бұрын
A fantastic crossover. You're the man, Kevin.
@KevinLeeVlog
@KevinLeeVlog 10 ай бұрын
Thank you!!
@ignitionfrn2223
@ignitionfrn2223 10 ай бұрын
0:40 - Jesse's side kick 2:25 - Nicolas's side kick 4:15 - Sparring 5:05 - Seth's side kick 8:15 - Savate concepts
@raccoonmyroom6861
@raccoonmyroom6861 10 ай бұрын
I love the level of detail from each instructor gives in this.
@KevinLeeVlog
@KevinLeeVlog 10 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@camiloiribarren1450
@camiloiribarren1450 10 ай бұрын
Glad to see how similar savate and karate; plus Jesse’s cameo here is always a great opportunity to get more info
@KevinLeeVlog
@KevinLeeVlog 10 ай бұрын
Thank you!!
@outerlast
@outerlast 10 ай бұрын
That Jesse guy, even when he's under the weather, his movement is still sharp.
@KevinLeeVlog
@KevinLeeVlog 10 ай бұрын
Yessss!
@mowipad1618
@mowipad1618 9 ай бұрын
According to a Jesse's video, okinawan karate high kicks were strongly influenced by french sailors arriving to the Island in early 1900's when they demonstrated Savate to natives martial artists
@leplombier3272
@leplombier3272 9 ай бұрын
not sailors. The french army
@flowrepins6663
@flowrepins6663 9 ай бұрын
​@@leplombier3272french navy
@nicolaspeigne1429
@nicolaspeigne1429 9 ай бұрын
@@leplombier3272 how do you think the french army arrived in Japan ? by foot ?
@Vlad_Tepes_III
@Vlad_Tepes_III 8 ай бұрын
​@@nicolaspeigne1429Yes, they marched on the sea floor like the undead pirates in PoTC: CoTBP.
@Shakya0
@Shakya0 10 ай бұрын
Thank you for another great video. Having other experts from different styles as your guests deepens our understanding of martial arts.
@KevinLeeVlog
@KevinLeeVlog 10 ай бұрын
Thank you!!
@savateonline
@savateonline 9 ай бұрын
Thank you 🙏
@Shojushoju
@Shojushoju 10 ай бұрын
This is awesome! I love these collabs comparing different points of view on similar techniques.
@KevinLeeVlog
@KevinLeeVlog 10 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@BMO_Creative
@BMO_Creative 10 ай бұрын
Sheesh! Kev is becoming the ultimate martial arts warrior learning from Jesse, Seth, and Prof. Nic, and learnin how to use it in "da streetz" with Icy Mike!
@savateonline
@savateonline 9 ай бұрын
Thank you 🙏
@KevinLeeVlog
@KevinLeeVlog 9 ай бұрын
Creating my ultimate form 🤣😂
@dma-rising8876
@dma-rising8876 9 ай бұрын
Love these videos with guests, Jessie is so crazy to watch!
@gw1357
@gw1357 9 ай бұрын
Bill "Superfoot" Wallace talked about using the sidekick to control distance and to make the targeting decision based on how the opponent reacts when you life the knee. (Hope I'm paraphrasing that right.) Jesse did a great interview with him. Jesse's bounce counter sidekick sort of reminds me of the way some people use the oblique kick in Wing Chun to intercept and break the posture at the knee.
@KevinLeeVlog
@KevinLeeVlog 9 ай бұрын
I would love to collaborate with Bill Wallace!
@christophmeier3185
@christophmeier3185 10 ай бұрын
Very interesting, thanks for sharing this Kevin. I also watched Sensei Seth's "I Tried Savate (french shoe fighting)" just some minutes before. And I do remember the vid from Jesse Enkamp about the influence of Savate in Karate. You guys rock! for sure this includes Professor Nicolas Saignac! Thank you for these insights!
@savateonline
@savateonline 9 ай бұрын
Thank you 🙏
@KevinLeeVlog
@KevinLeeVlog 9 ай бұрын
Thank you!!!
@boxcar9407
@boxcar9407 10 ай бұрын
Sensei Seth's "about the same, right?" Got me in shambles. What a goof.
@KevinLeeVlog
@KevinLeeVlog 9 ай бұрын
😂😂😂
@Cmaxb9
@Cmaxb9 9 ай бұрын
Such a great video, well put together, great concepts and all around interesting content. Thank you Kevin for this fantastic piece of work 👊🏼
@JEM-fo6rs
@JEM-fo6rs 9 ай бұрын
Wow nice video. It’s a shame arts like Savate and Sanda don’t get that much love? I always admire them. Jesse’s low chamber kicks are fluid and strong👍🏾. Very similar to TWC chamber kicks, up rooting or breaking the foundation with chamber kicking is very effective when performed properly. Details in some of the Wooden dummy sets.
@drumsticknuggets5123
@drumsticknuggets5123 9 ай бұрын
Such a good dive into savate and it's features. Definitely thought provoking.
@shadowfighter6445
@shadowfighter6445 9 ай бұрын
It would be cool to learn savate. The instructor seems like a cool dude ☺️.
@KevinLeeVlog
@KevinLeeVlog 9 ай бұрын
Professor Nicolas is truly amazing! You should go check him out!!
@davidrempel4862
@davidrempel4862 9 ай бұрын
Oh man. What a treat. I never miss an opportunity to train with Prof Nicolas.
@strikingmachine2975
@strikingmachine2975 10 ай бұрын
Seth threw a Turning Back Kick there. Heel up, toes down..
@flowrepins6663
@flowrepins6663 9 ай бұрын
you should do videos about kyokushin tricky kicks brazilian kick interrogation point kick, andy hug kakato and tornado kick and mawashi kaiten do gueri but great video
@johntay3831
@johntay3831 9 ай бұрын
Savate kicks with the foot, if kicking the head it’s ok, but if you are kicking the leg or body, it is stronger to flex the foot and aim with the shin.
@dmitripogosian5084
@dmitripogosian5084 2 ай бұрын
But savate has shoes on their feet :)
@piotrlitwic5935
@piotrlitwic5935 9 ай бұрын
Listening to him was a lot like hearing Bruce Lee to me. Waiting for part 2 already.
@KevinLeeVlog
@KevinLeeVlog 9 ай бұрын
Part 2 is gonna be amazing plus more tutorials!
@michaelmartinez3893
@michaelmartinez3893 9 ай бұрын
Great video Kevin 🙂. After watching yours and Seth's videos I definitely want to take a Savate class in person. Also thanks for the link I'll check it Professor Nicolas ☺️
@KevinLeeVlog
@KevinLeeVlog 9 ай бұрын
Awesome!! Thank you!
@itsajem1683
@itsajem1683 9 ай бұрын
Glad to see you are all fans of the best Rugby team in the world, the All Blacks 🇳🇿
@alhkcblack9617
@alhkcblack9617 9 ай бұрын
Seth's side kick = a back kick 😂
@TheDondajonhon46
@TheDondajonhon46 10 ай бұрын
Awesome!
@BMO_Creative
@BMO_Creative 10 ай бұрын
LOL I totally thought it was part of the class for everyone to wear all black until Seth said that! LOL
@nathanconstantino7441
@nathanconstantino7441 9 ай бұрын
Would be nice you showing more Wing chun kicks, kevin. Amazing content as always
@game9848
@game9848 9 ай бұрын
You WARRIOR'S are bringing all the arts back into "ONE ART". The same kicks Jessie Sensei was doing, are also done in Wing Chun. They are called Chi Gerk(Leg Sensitivity), similar to chi sau(Arm/Hand Sensitivity).
@KevinLeeVlog
@KevinLeeVlog 9 ай бұрын
Yeah! A lot of Savate low kicks are similar to Wing Chun kicks
@timdavenport1006
@timdavenport1006 10 ай бұрын
14 seconds in and sensie seth already said hi mom and then wiped his nose and put the booger on his shorts! Love it! Haha Honestly though great video kevin. Love the content!
@KevinLeeVlog
@KevinLeeVlog 9 ай бұрын
Hahaha!! I was trying to figure out what he was saying! Thank you for pointing it out!! 😂😂😂
@Last_Chance.
@Last_Chance. 10 ай бұрын
It was Cool seeing you in the upstate the other day bro
@KevinLeeVlog
@KevinLeeVlog 10 ай бұрын
Thank you!! It’s great seeing everyone again!
@Tamales21
@Tamales21 9 ай бұрын
Great video. Holy shit...so much knowledge here.
@KevinLeeVlog
@KevinLeeVlog 9 ай бұрын
Thank you!!
@pedromedrano5110
@pedromedrano5110 10 ай бұрын
Great vid
@KevinLeeVlog
@KevinLeeVlog 9 ай бұрын
Thank you!!!
@Deathbystrudel
@Deathbystrudel 10 ай бұрын
Hey Kevin, out of curiosity, what glove color/level of Savate are you?
@KevinLeeVlog
@KevinLeeVlog 9 ай бұрын
Currently Yellow glove.
@thejinn99
@thejinn99 10 ай бұрын
Hold up--is Kevin Taiwanese-American? I thought he was from HK for some reason!! Man, there are not many of us out there. I can't believe there is another Taiwanese-American youtuber! Kevin is the second that I know of, the other guy has a tech/history channel.
@KevinLeeVlog
@KevinLeeVlog 9 ай бұрын
🫡🫡🇹🇼🇺🇸
@thejinn99
@thejinn99 9 ай бұрын
@@KevinLeeVlog Where did you get that cool shirt? Now I feel like I need to represent, too!
@Turbulent2000
@Turbulent2000 9 ай бұрын
The difference between European kickboxing art and karate is the purpose of their application. The initial savate was a brutal boxing incl kicking technique, wich is an art of fencing without a weapon. The purpose of karate was self defense, avoiding a long contact with an opponent (ikken hissatsu - 1 blow, 1 kill). After karate was implemented in Japan, there was a lack of this long contact, which was not spectacular for the audience. And we have today an art of fencing where karate techniques are being used. These techniques have a light contact with the ground and use a long distance for initial fighting (the old ones used a full contact with the ground and a close combat range). So the pure karate is different from so called sports karate. And people should understand the real purpose of each martial art and not blame its techniques, what “will work on the street and what won’t”, because street fights are exaggerated in ppl minds (I can say it as a street fighter in the 90’s, based on traditional Shotokan karate and boxing) and there will work that technique, wich you can perfectly do. Yeah, and you should strike first, when you only feel, that the opponent wants to attack you.
@devs.4254
@devs.4254 4 ай бұрын
I like that you're all friends :)
@thepants1450
@thepants1450 10 ай бұрын
Jesse can be pretty intimidating wow
@KevinLeeVlog
@KevinLeeVlog 10 ай бұрын
I know right?
@jestfullgremblim8002
@jestfullgremblim8002 9 ай бұрын
That's a true Karateka for you hahaha
@MrRourk
@MrRourk 24 күн бұрын
Savate has really good moves for managing space plus the cane fighting
@shawnclifford362
@shawnclifford362 9 ай бұрын
Cheers Kevin. ☘️
@A_Moustached_Sock
@A_Moustached_Sock 9 ай бұрын
Around 1:30 I know thats why Im so excited to see him as a contender for USDC as well as Ranton
@minutemartialarts3152
@minutemartialarts3152 9 ай бұрын
As a JKdmD guy, the sport karate side kick is most like a JKD one. I like the karate one and the savate in. I admit Ive done Some little Savate training over the years especially with the chase. But I do think Inprefer it iver the Karate because uts more fluid. The Karate one is a great self defense tool though. Really like it
@boxingbull523
@boxingbull523 9 ай бұрын
Karate kicks come from Northen white crane, not Savate. Similar kicks but, not from each other. Same thing how Capoeria has some similar kicks, but isn't from either.
@BrutalButtSlap
@BrutalButtSlap 9 ай бұрын
8:28 I said in Seth's video I say here, maybe is something similar/enfluenced by Fencing (or sword fencing in general) I see the same in Karate the "parry and hit" if random articles on the Internet are true (we know internet don't lie /s) if Karate was used agaisnt some weapon wield person of deflect and hit would make sense, creating this weird connection and explaining similar technics since we are limited by biomechanics, if we have similar point you end with similar results. We can add the fact of cultural influence other them sword figthing and fencing is the cloathing, Europens would have a more ruged footware from old styles of pointer shoes and toe reinforced working boots and Japan (you can call me a stupid xeno swine if I am wrong) for some period the footware was more limited to simpler and even barefooted so focusing more in the sole of foot and "hard" parts of it and not in the "shoe" as a weapon
@dirtpoorchris
@dirtpoorchris 9 ай бұрын
"Using your enemies weight to add to your kick" I call this "antlering" use your limb like a high speed antler to meet the charge. Or using your elbows like "bull horns" and add your body hop momentum or enemies momentum to your bulls horn elbow.
@savateonline
@savateonline 9 ай бұрын
Great point!!!
@antre_du_retro
@antre_du_retro 10 ай бұрын
I like to see professor Nicolas Saignac ⚜
@nicolassaignac
@nicolassaignac 9 ай бұрын
Thank you 🙏
@dirtpoorchris
@dirtpoorchris 9 ай бұрын
Karete Jesse chopping legs down like trees.
@jj-wp6wc
@jj-wp6wc 9 ай бұрын
Sweet! Is it too much to ask for y'all to spar, savate style, to the Indiana Jones theme song?
@mellonhead9568
@mellonhead9568 10 ай бұрын
i love savate yo !!!
@KevinLeeVlog
@KevinLeeVlog 10 ай бұрын
Me too!!
@savateonline
@savateonline 9 ай бұрын
Same here 🙏🔥🥊
@nobodyexceptme7794
@nobodyexceptme7794 10 ай бұрын
Damn those low kicks would be amazing to see in a mma fight. Especially the back one
@KevinLeeVlog
@KevinLeeVlog 10 ай бұрын
I agree!!
@jacobharris954
@jacobharris954 10 ай бұрын
Jon Jones does this all ready
@savateonline
@savateonline 9 ай бұрын
So does Victor Henry
@advancingsecurity
@advancingsecurity 9 ай бұрын
Jess voice sounds so much deeper😅 without his Mic
@backwardscapguy1476
@backwardscapguy1476 10 ай бұрын
IcyMike’s watching this like “you made a whole video on something that doesn’t work.”
@jestfullgremblim8002
@jestfullgremblim8002 9 ай бұрын
Fr fr
@KevinLeeVlog
@KevinLeeVlog 9 ай бұрын
I should had drag him to this seminar 😂
@thunderkatz4219
@thunderkatz4219 9 ай бұрын
So how you feel about karate
@joelledlow3820
@joelledlow3820 9 ай бұрын
Nic has such great knowledge. I don't think that Kevin or Seth understood (at least in this video) how much Nic has to offer. They are not anywhere near his level of expertise. This was the yellow belt version of what he has to offer. Or in Savate, the Blue Glove ranking. It is a beginner level. Niolas Saignac is an expert and a full contact champion in Savate. He is extremely skilled in Savate and kickboxing. Please look him up and train with him at any opportunity.
@KevinLeeVlog
@KevinLeeVlog 9 ай бұрын
Professor Nick is truly amazing and I am fully aware of that! I have been training with him since 2014 and I am still amazed by his skills!
@tomiokagiyuu420_69
@tomiokagiyuu420_69 10 ай бұрын
waiting till kevin sees this comment... ( good collab bro❤❤)
@KevinLeeVlog
@KevinLeeVlog 10 ай бұрын
I see it now! Thank you!
@tomiokagiyuu420_69
@tomiokagiyuu420_69 10 ай бұрын
@@KevinLeeVlog no,thank you!
@lusteraliaszero
@lusteraliaszero 9 ай бұрын
with how much jesse talks historical technique and high concept martial arts, it's easy to forget that he's the real deal, when he applies it so smoothly it's always a bit shocking
@jacobharris954
@jacobharris954 10 ай бұрын
The first movements is very wing chun
@KevinLeeVlog
@KevinLeeVlog 9 ай бұрын
I agree!!!
@junichiroyamashita
@junichiroyamashita 10 ай бұрын
Savate seems to be to Kicking what Boxing is to Punching. I would love to see it against Muay Thai,it can neutralize their kicking technique.
@KevinLeeVlog
@KevinLeeVlog 10 ай бұрын
Yep! I agree!
@junichiroyamashita
@junichiroyamashita 10 ай бұрын
​@@KevinLeeVlog There is a english sport called Shin Kicking,or Purring,you may find interesting,at least in concept. People have wondered how Buakaw would fare such context.
@ministryofvolcano
@ministryofvolcano 9 ай бұрын
A shame not to see Jesse fight in One Championship in both Muay Thai and kickboxing rules! Miss the old days of K-1 Grand Prix.
@neilbirkby3365
@neilbirkby3365 5 ай бұрын
Shoes off the mat kevin shoes are not allowed on the mat
@KevinLeeVlog
@KevinLeeVlog 5 ай бұрын
Typically yes, but those are Savate training shoes. They are made for trainings on the mat. Lol
@ZeAshTonz
@ZeAshTonz 9 ай бұрын
Gi flapping sound ASMR
@pandaman1677
@pandaman1677 9 ай бұрын
Jesse is has Crispy technique
@frikandelkroket9335
@frikandelkroket9335 10 ай бұрын
🇹🇼 🇺🇸
@KevinLeeVlog
@KevinLeeVlog 10 ай бұрын
🫡🫡🫡
@dirtpoorchris
@dirtpoorchris 9 ай бұрын
I think Savate is them peoples that use their foot like a fist? :p
@savateonline
@savateonline 9 ай бұрын
Trying to 🙏
@simonericci9903
@simonericci9903 9 ай бұрын
Noto che sono venuti fuori dei concetti che sono alla base delle strategie del Jeet Kune Do
@KevinLeeVlog
@KevinLeeVlog 9 ай бұрын
Guro Dan Inosanto told me that Bruce Lee also blended Savate into JKD.
@simonericci9903
@simonericci9903 9 ай бұрын
@@KevinLeeVlog yeah! I heard that too in one of his interviews 👍🏻
@Last_Chance.
@Last_Chance. 10 ай бұрын
Is he French?
@aragnockhod7274
@aragnockhod7274 10 ай бұрын
Definitely. The accent is French. ( I’m too)
@KevinLeeVlog
@KevinLeeVlog 10 ай бұрын
Professor Nicolas? Yes! He was also a former French Cup champion.
@savateonline
@savateonline 9 ай бұрын
Yes, very French
@KevinLeeVlog
@KevinLeeVlog 9 ай бұрын
@@savateonline🤣🤣
@farataratoni3791
@farataratoni3791 9 ай бұрын
Ancestralement le karaté n'avait pas coup de pied, ils se sont inspiré de la savate justement
@douglasgomesbueno1526
@douglasgomesbueno1526 9 ай бұрын
Karate originally means Chinese hands the meaning has changed for obvious reasons, Karate Father It's Shaolin Kung Fu so Karate kicks come from Shaolin not Savate.
@jestfullgremblim8002
@jestfullgremblim8002 9 ай бұрын
That is actually not confirmed. While Karate did take a lot of it's weapon and hand techniques from Chinese martial arts (not just Shaoling Kung Fu but some other Chinese styles as well) the high kicks (specifically the high ones) seem to come from Savate, Jesse has done a video about it. Plus the Southern Kung Fu styles didn't have high kicks either Now then, to my knowledge, Karate did have some low kicks before taking stuff from Savate, those may as well come from China. Just like the Souther Kung Fu styles. Karate was mostly about weapon fighting and close quarters combat, not a lot of high kicking in that, right? Okinawan Karate did some times use high kicks. Those probably were from China, but they weren't being taught in Japan (to my knowledge)
@boxingbull523
@boxingbull523 9 ай бұрын
Yup that's true.
@MrRabiddogg
@MrRabiddogg 10 ай бұрын
too bad Jesse didn't come with you. that would have been something
@savateonline
@savateonline 9 ай бұрын
I would have loved that 🙏
@KevinLeeVlog
@KevinLeeVlog 9 ай бұрын
Next time!!!
@renaldotorcque4417
@renaldotorcque4417 9 ай бұрын
Thank you for your excellent content. It seems that 3 types of side kicks exist. Another version is the one of Jeet Kun Do kzfaq.info/get/bejne/hdFjpqle1sqcd5s.html
@KevinLeeVlog
@KevinLeeVlog 9 ай бұрын
Thank you!! According to my teacher, Guro Dan Inosanto. Bruce Lee implement a lot of Savate kicks into Jeet Kune Do.
@RonSanPedro83
@RonSanPedro83 9 ай бұрын
so weird hearing jesse speak out of character lol
@Roro-qi9nz
@Roro-qi9nz 9 ай бұрын
Jesse said that with no sources at all. I love both martial arts but that a false information . Jesse want to discredit Japanese influence in many videos . In fact japanese army took the the " defense a 4coins (4 corner defence)" from savate but this system dont contain any circular movement . Actually GOJO RYU did bring mawashi before shotokan
@eagle162
@eagle162 7 ай бұрын
In what other videos does he discredit any influence?
@eagle162
@eagle162 7 ай бұрын
I do agree with you though his video was awful, especially the part when he's taking the French military,the wiki he uses for a source does not even mention savate and makes a ton of other assumptions or mistakes.
@Roro-qi9nz
@Roro-qi9nz 7 ай бұрын
@@eagle162 the one with "tyson doing Karate" , the one with the kali eskrima , and others .. the video of jesse has no source at all and he deleted one of my comment in december 2020 .
@Roro-qi9nz
@Roro-qi9nz 7 ай бұрын
@@eagle162 indeed the french military did influence the Japanese Army woth their training . But not in the sense of Jesse . They adopted "La defense a 4 coins"(4 corners defence) from the bataillon of joinville who used the savate . But in this method hasnt circular strikes .. the kata of Jap Army was inspired by that but with their one techniques. Oss
@johncena12366
@johncena12366 10 ай бұрын
Just a friendly reminder that Jesse Enkamp has ZERO evidence to back up "Karate took kicks from Savate" claim. High kicks in Karate most likely developed at the university karate clubs since they were really into sparring.
@jestfullgremblim8002
@jestfullgremblim8002 9 ай бұрын
There is evidence tho (you could still be right, but it does seem like they come from Savate)
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