Save Time With One Crimp AMP Superseal Contacts

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Imagine if you could halve the amount of crimping required for AMP Superseal contacts on your next medium to large scale wiring project/s?
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Used by MoTeC, Haltech, Link, FuelTech and more, the AMP Superseal 1.0 connector is a standard in the aftermarket ECU industry. One niggle however on larger scale wiring projects is the fact that the standard terminal requires 2 crimps, one on the body and another over the insulation.
While this isn't a deal breaker for those doing a low volume, it is a gripe for those at the other end of the spectrum and Race Spec offers a solution with a custom solid contact which requires only one crimp via an DMC MH860 crimp tool and corresponding die.
This is something squarely aimed at the professional 'mass production' end of the motorsport market and something Andre was keen to test himself while shooting more material for the Professional Motorsport Wiring Course recently.
While not shown here, a backshell and booting are strongly recommended to finish the job, topics also covered in the wiring course material for you over at: hpcdmy.co/hpa
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TIME STAMPS:
0:00 - Race Spec SS 1.0 Solid Contact
1:00 - The Problem These Solve: Crimping Time
2:35 - Standard Contact Crimping Example
3:20 - Annoying For Bulk Bespoke Production
3:40 - Race Spec One Piece Closed Barrel Contact
4:45 - DMC MH680 Crimp Tool
5:30 - Race Spec Contact Crimping Example
6:15 - Fitting to SuperSeal Connector
6:37 - Backshell and Boot Recommended
7:05 - Mating Cycles: Not Always Considered!
7:50 - The Downside: Do Require Correct Tooling
8:56 - Thumbs Up, Free Lesson!
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@hpa101 Жыл бұрын

Take $50 USD off ANY HP Academy course with this coupon: KZfaq50 Enroll now: hpcdmy.co/50offytc - Taz 👨🏻

@popomomo12 Жыл бұрын

I always love seeing HPA discuss crimps and terminals

@DMCTOOLS Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the support, High Performance Academy and RaceSpec! We are happy to be part of the motorsport industry.

@Dusto5 5 ай бұрын

@DMCTOOLS is there a turret head or positioner available for the AF8 to crimp these Superseal socket contacts?

@DMCTOOLS 5 ай бұрын

@@Dusto5 Hey Dusto! Could you provide us with the exact contact part numbers being used?

@yeahitskimmel Жыл бұрын

FYI they made double crimp dies to crimp the conductor and insulation in one go. About $60 vs $650 and can use generic included terminals

@edwindows7 Жыл бұрын

What company? Rennsteig and Racespec have dies but not for $60

@ccooxxyy Жыл бұрын

Racespec make one, I used one yesterday! 👍 quick precise and easy!

@hpa101 Жыл бұрын

Up until recently, the only die set that would perform both operations in one cycle was the spec TE tool ($2k per (3) contact sizes = $6k or a Rennsteig piece that was designed for OE grade wire (as in not Tefzel 😎). As Ccooxxyy mentioned Race Spec also designed a die in conjuction with Rennsteig too if you prefer that for wire with thinner insulation: racespeconline.com/collections/newest-arrivals/products/rennsteig-amp-superseal-1-0-die-set-race-spec-exclusive? It is worth mentioning the specs on these contacts are also different to the generic AMP ones. They have designed them to be better, it's not just the single crimp function alone. Not here to push them down your throat, you either need/want/have an application that warrants them or you don't, just sharing the information - Taz.

@p0intdk Жыл бұрын

Well yeah, but if you did it for a living it would properly make sense, time is money as they say.

@seymoarsalvage Жыл бұрын

These also look great for soldering

@TheGCJourney Жыл бұрын

Love your videos! Really high quality! 👌🏼

@hpa101 Жыл бұрын

Cheers mate! We are always aiming to improve year by year where we can 😎 Appreciate the support - Taz.

@MarioDallaRiva Жыл бұрын

Nice! BTW, the KZfaq app (iOS) now allows pinch/zoom with image clarity. Great for the crimp overhead shots.

@hpa101 Жыл бұрын

Yes great tip! Cheers Mario - Taz.

@NorbertWeisz Жыл бұрын

I always double crimp even if single crimp tool did it in one go :) I really want to make sure I made a strong and reliable crimp

@Takeitlightly6 Жыл бұрын

Really thanks to joel for inventing this product…i wont use it on my personal car…but in future i will keep it on my mind if there are others who need the service.

@25aspooner Жыл бұрын

I have these and their spec'd crimp tool and it is wonderful. Definitely recommend.

@johnw3724 11 ай бұрын

TE/RaceWire now has similar contacts that use standard Deutsch DTM and M22520 tooling which most assemblers already have. Not sure why Racespec went with a custom positioner.

@MartinKrafft Жыл бұрын

Klauke K 58/2 or something similar should be able to press this in one operation. the other connectors are of course better but they are not free.

@hpa101 Жыл бұрын

I believe up until recently, the only die set that would perform both operations in one cycle was the spec TE tool ($2k per (3) contact sizes = $6k or a Rennsteig piece that was designed for OE grade wire (as in not Tefzel 😎) - Taz.

@needmoreboost6369 Жыл бұрын

They look nice! probably getting closer to the quality of rc connections I regard most connections in automotive industry as Junk! These are getting there! edit-thought they were just brass but hearing the whole vid these are looking the goods👍

@Ori3ntal3Xpr3ss Жыл бұрын

RaceSpec closed barrel SS terms are gold plated.

@needmoreboost6369 Жыл бұрын

@@Ori3ntal3Xpr3ss yes it’s been well thought out! I’d like to see the difference in amps capability! and long term stress test compared with the conventional pin with integrated strain relief vs silicone push on

@Ori3ntal3Xpr3ss Жыл бұрын

@@needmoreboost6369 amp capacity meets and exceeds what the housing can withstand. Tensile strength can be seen on the RaceSpec website on the SS page.

@Blazerdoom169 Жыл бұрын

They look close to Deutsch connectors and pins, how are they different other than the barrel pinch? J1939 has been standardized to these for years now, by far the easiest connector to service over years of hard usage.

@neil0077 Жыл бұрын

FYI, you have been doing this the hard way all these years Andre! MilspecWiring sell the correct crimp tool for these connectors, it holds the terminal securely and crimps both crimps at the same time. I have had one for 15years, so they have been available for a long time.

@hpa101 Жыл бұрын

@neil0077 Жыл бұрын

@@hpa101 Yes Rennsteig. About 500usd complete tool and jaws. Yes when I got mine 15 years ago only oe type insulation size was supported but many more jaws (about 350usd) now available. If you can now buy a tool for similar price to the racespec tool then why not use the correct AMP specified superseal 1.0 terminal, it has the insulation restraint which is not available with the bespoke racespec terminal.

@mauricewaddelliii6244 Ай бұрын

I’ll save the $500+ dollars in tooling myself and do the double crimp

@hpa101 Ай бұрын

Certainly an option! You can 'over tool' for your use case and needs just as much as you can 'under tool' - Taz.

@fatdat7 Жыл бұрын

Any chance you can use these terminals with a DTM crimper and still get a reliable crimp?

@hpa101 Жыл бұрын

Great question, not something I have tried personally. You could ask Race Spec if they have tested that. I'd imagine they did, but never hurts to ask - Taz.

@Ori3ntal3Xpr3ss Жыл бұрын

Not recommended the MH860 does have positioners for DTM pins though

@e34boat88 Жыл бұрын

these are the same as in avionics

@matsinkal Жыл бұрын

$587 bucks for a fancy deutsch crimper damn what a bargain

@hpa101 Жыл бұрын

Yes you want to benefit from a few aspects here, noting the contacts are not just made to the same standard either 😉 As mentioned by Andre, not cheap, and not for everyone by any means, but still interesting to learn about we hope 😎 - Taz.

@FreakoRico999 Жыл бұрын

No strain relieve on the isolation of the pin? There should be crimp tools that do both of the clamps in 1 motion (at least i had them years back when i worked on printer wiring connectors, had pins just like the first ones in this video)

@yeahitskimmel Жыл бұрын

You're correct, for about $60 and you save on not needing special pins. I could maybe understand the crazy cost if it wasn't also an inferior design

@sneh2j00 Жыл бұрын

I bought a set that is supposed to do both crimps at once from snapon (bluepoint) - haven't found a single terminal that lines up with the die correctly yet lol.

@hpa101 Жыл бұрын

The SS 1.0 connector body incorporates a mat seal, similar to a Deutsch DTM/DT, and a much thinner version than the dielectric found on a MIL/Autosport connector. Race Spec strongly encourage people to use a back shell and boot while using their contact in order to obtain greater strain relief than the factory S/F contact offered. Goes with out saying the average hobbyist will still be twitching about the cost before they ever had a problem in that regard, even with the connector exposed.

@hpa101 Жыл бұрын

@@sneh2j00 sounds about right! Previously you could get a tool from TE but all up it will cost you around 6k. The idea behind this is a superior contact and a simple crimp solution. It won't suit everyone and not everyone needs these tools and materials by a long shot, but since released a year ago many people have benefitted from this product without fault. Nothing wrong with learning about something even if it doesn't fit your application personally or professionally - Taz.

@hpa101 Жыл бұрын

@@yeahitskimmel what tool are you using that is $60 alone for this? - Taz.