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Men and women, everyone threw in for the war effort.

Absolutely agree!

Well said.

Eloquent and elegant said, thanks.

Ahhh that makes sense! Wow thank you!

Yes, exactly. I can't believe this has to be explained, but Wade knew he was gonna die. When they finally asked how to best help him (at the time, "how can we save you?") and he said, "I could use a little more morphine..." they all knew the subtext of that statement: "there's no saving me. All I can ask for now is a less painful death". It's really incredible to me how many Zoomers cannot pick up context clues. They just can't do it. Even if someone uses an expression you've never heard, most people before this generation can do things like look at mannerisms and facial expressions, observe the big picture to see what's being communicated, watch the ACTIONS the people are taking in a scene and understand the meaning of it, even on a completely subconscious level. We don't even have to think about it consciously and we just get it. But these kids need things completely spelled out for them, and it's just incredible to me. I've been working with kids from Gen Z and Alpha for about 10 years now, and this is a common theme. They can't tell you the meaning of a paragraph that you've just read to them, even when the main idea IS THE TITLE, ITSELF. For example, we'll read a short article about a 9 year old boy who started a business doing yard work for his neighbors. The title of the article is, '9 year old boy starts own business doing yard work for neighbors'. We'll take turns reading it, then I'll ask them what the article was about. Before the inevitable blinking and staring at me while saying precisely nothing, middle school-aged kids will say things like, "a rake". Yyyyesss, there was a rake in the story, but was the story about a friggin' RAKE?! A rake? That's what you got out of this? A one-page article, in giant typeface, where not only the title expressly tells you what the story is about, but the first line as well...is about...a rake. Dude, we're doomed. We're completely doomed. 😂😂😂

Bullshit. Those syrettes wouldn't have such a high dose that a second dose by a second soldier, unaware he's already had one, would kill him. Less than 40 mg each; it would take something like 6+ to reliably kill someone.

It's also true to the realism of the movie. There ABSOLUTELY would've been young men who froze in such horrific situations. Not every man was a brave warrior type. It shows us a pretty realistic freeze response to fear. That's not something you can control. Not when your parasympathetic nervous system takes over. During traumatic events, some people fight, some people flee, some people freeze. Some people go through phases. They might initially freeze, then flee. They might fight, then freeze.

Yes I always thought it meant that these men died to make sure you make it out...don't let it be in vain.

3 of my Great Uncles fought in both theaters. The one who fought in the Pacific died on Iwo Jima. He was 23. My other great-uncle was part of shooting down Nazis planes, but he survived. I'm not sure what the other did, because he was too young to join much before the end of the war. My grandfather, their youngest brother, was also too young, but he joined the (newly created) Air Force as soon as he could.

Thank you to your father so much for his service!

You said this beautifully. I feel the same.

My father was at Normandy too. 10 years ago I walked Normandy beach. It is amazing anyone survived. God Bless your father

My grandfather fought in the Battle of The Bulge. Hitler’s last gasp. He never spoke about his time there. He was quite a quiet man. I researched the battle and it was just brutal.

My grandfather fought in the Battle of The Bulge. Hitler’s last gasp. He never spoke about his time there. He was quite a quiet man. I researched the battle and it was just brutal.

So interesting about Spielberg! And thank you!!

It's always funny when people think they'd be a person who's character gets flushed out in the war movie. In reality Spielberg (or any of us) would be the guy at the front of the higgins boat that dies immediately. We never know what type of character he would be or what type of character WE would be in war.

Upham not helping Melish in the end was a metaphor for the USA not getting into the war sooner and in fact for not taking into Jewish refugees around 39.

@@ChadSimpson-ft7yz Maybe subconsciously. I don't think it was an intentional metaphor, but it fit the bill. Everybody wants to think we as the US jumped right in to "help the Jews" (where does that idea even come from???), when in reality we held in check or outright turned refugee ships away because they were predominately Jewish.

Such a heart wrenching scene.

Who didn't know the meaning of multiple rounds of morphine?

I would say most people are not versed in dosage, and the "between the lines" in that scene was subtle in providing a hint to those without much medicinal knowledge. I think it was one of those things where a director doesn't want to hit the viewer over the head with the subtext/clues.@@ChadSimpson-ft7yz

that's why they all looked at each other and didn't react right away. He was asking them for death and they didn't want to lose him. One: because he was their brother in arms and Two: because he was the medic in the group

I straight teared up, it’s a heart wrenching scene.

Wow, Alec Not Alec. Tears for you brother.

Absolutely tragic.

The sad part is the fact that, in every war, it is the young people who are sacrificed for wars started by politicians. If only the leaders and politicians had to fight the wars they start. If that were required, I am sure they would think twice before getting their countries into war. I mean, think about all of life's experiences the young people have not experienced, and never will as they were killed when fighting a war.

I think they are around their early 20s. That is far from the age of the 29th infantry division at Omaha dog green sector who were of the average age of 19 years old. Early 20s soldiers were already veterans like the 1st Infantry Division who were battle hardened from combat in North Africa and Italy since 1942. So we are talking about teenagers here

Gen. Omar Bradley, who led the Omaha forces, actually almost retreated, it got so bad. Almost, but they kept pushing. D-Day, of course, is credited for turning WWII around, but that single epic battle sacrificed the young lives of 4,414 Allied Forces (about 2500 of them Americans, as you said) and roughly 4k-9k Germans (Hitler and Co. didn't keep a good records of the young men they lost), not to mention the thousands more that were wounded. An incredible loss of life, but I also have to wonder how different history would be if Bradley did retreat that day. One thing I do know is war is hell. Never ever forget.

He's great in this, Remember The Titans and particularly We Were Soldiers.

100% Agree!

America's greatest generation is living right now.

@@DestinyAwaits19 Sit down cupcake

Yeah you make a good point, he was just a National Guard clerk. It got lost on me personally, thanks for the reminder!

We would like to think if we were that age, in that age and thrust into that situation we’d be righteous and heroic. But can we be sure? Upham did not fight in the first wave on D-Day. As was pointed out he was a clerk with a typewriter. He was never really prepped for killing and fighting in-depth. It was interesting that when this movie came out most vets (not all) were not all that critical of Upham’s character - I ‘m guessing - represents the men who found themselves in a horrible untrained or conditioned for it. Upham is a tragic figure

Nah fuck Upham. In the end when he murders the German and lets the POWS go? I mean come on guy does absolutely everything wrong, he literally commits murder, a war crime at the end. He kills the German who showed him MERCY!!!! Fucking insane.

@@1superloki Upham is a fucking war crime committing murderer. I can forgive the cowardice, but murdering a soldier as retribution for killing your CO in combat? That's so fucking heinous it's insane, if I saw that irl you better be damn sure that piece of shit is getting fragged. Psycho shit. And on top of that he lets the dozen or so German POWs go!?!? He lets POWS go so they can kill American GI's later? Nah I can understand being a coward but being a fucking murderer who helps the enemy is insane.

Nah bruh, Fuck Upham....

Agreed, thank you!

Maturity? I like these guys, they’re a lot of fun. Just not for this kind of film. They have to be the least emotionally mature people I’ve seen in this kind of video, with their ignorance of basic facts matched only by their stunted emotional range. Great for comedies, horror movies, but not for drama. Though I admit, they would be great company at a wake.

I don’t think we hated him, as much as we were just very frustrated with him.

What's not really appreciated is he experienced a fear which was literally paralyzing. He couldn't move.

​@@williamberven-ph5igI don't mean to be crude, but all of them are fucking fighting their way through this shit.

I don’t doubt it for a second

US Army Air Corps. We didn't have an Air Force yet.

Oh wow! That’s some bad luck, glad it didn’t ruin the overall mission.

@@williamjones6031 Cam's grandfather was in WW2 and flew B-24 Liberators. You are correct..He was in Army Air Corps

Bad weather helped in other ways though as Rommel was absent that day as he figured they wouldn't risk invading with those conditions.

Thank you! 2nd suggestion for it! We’ll definitely consider it!

The Pacific is better in my opinion.

Thank you so much! And yes there sacrifice drastically altered history, thankfully!!

Wow what amazing symbolism!

I remember learning how Franklin Roosevelt, who was a close ally of Winston Churchill, seriously wanted to enter WWII years before we actually did, but Congress was against it for so long, believing it wasn't our war and that we were safe, separated from it by oceans. That's what made the attack on Pearl Harbor so necessary. I hate to say it that way, considering all the people that died in that attack, but it unified America in entering the war. Also, the attack on Pearl Harbor was an immediate and direct result of the US Navy setting up a blockade to keep Japan's ships from accessing their own oil reserves in the Pacific Islands. To Japan, Germany's ally, this was seen as an act of war since their entire economy and military depended on this oil to continue fighting and functioning. Ever since learning that, I've felt Roosevelt's decision to block Japan's oil was his way of getting the US into the war, though there's not enough evidence to prove that was his intent.

Yeah which I get but I'd prefer he kept Upham's character consistent for the story of the movie as we knew he wasn't battle tested but he definitely wasn't a coward.

Oh wow thank you for this piece of knowledge! That’s wild they had it prepared like that but totally makes sense!

True that guys had "death letters", but in this movie the letter was just a regular letter Carpazo had been writing to his dad, pulled out of his pocket as he lay there after being shot. Told Fish "It's to my dad, it's got blood on it, Fish". The medic Wade took the bloody letter and was rewriting it in the scene resting in the church, to send it on to Carpazo's dad without the blood. When Wade died, Capt. Miller took it to finish rewriting and mail it. Reiben did the same after Miller died.

@@richarddowns7162 Nope. If it was a regular letter a dying man could care less that it would be mailed. The fact that he was specifically telling his best friend Melish and it was in the front breast pocket is all the proof I need it was a death letter. Why would a dying man care if his Father received a letter about some mundane issues like what he had for breakfast or asking about how his Mom was doing when he would not be around to receive a reply?

@@jcarlovitch My thinking is based on two points. 1- the " last letter " is petty important to a man, most would leave them in a safer rear area with a friend or acquaintance rather than keep it on your person while on a dangerous mission behind enemy lines where you and the letter could be blown to pieces, killed and your buddies cannot recover your body and letter, etc. And 2- Mellish tells him " You're gonna mail it yourself. " when asked by Caparzo to mail it. At least Mellish, his best friend, didn't think it was a last letter. Nobody would mail their own last letter.

I'm confused.

That's really nice.

What a heavy hitting line.

I’ve seen it, I’m not sure if Zay has I’ll have to ask, but man is that movie good!!!!

Thank you for this, Absolutely astonishing!

@@camandzay A couple of other factors. The Allies had already halted the progress of the Axis forces and were beginning their push through Africa to Italy. They had been fighting to liberate Italy for 9 months and they finally took Rome 2 days before DDay. In order to shorten the war it had been decided in 1943 to open a third front (the Russian front was the second) by invading France. This would force Hitler to have to split his forces in three directions. The major drawback would be establishing the initial foothold. The sort of rule of thumb is that an invading force needs a 3:1 fighting advantage to successfully dislodge a defending force that has had months to dig in and entrench. It had been estimated that some of the initial units (particularly paratrooper which was what Ryan was) could expect upwards of 75% casualty rates.

That’s wild, I wonder how many different specialists are involved in figuring these statistics out like historians, mathematicians, etc…

@@camandzay They obviously teach military tactics at the military academies but there are also think tanks and, of course, munitions makers dedicated to it full time - both to strategy and to promoting war, unfortunately. For an invasion of this size with multiple countries each with their own goals the planning phase was massive. Getting all of the supplies and men and ships in place as surreptitiously as possible (although the Germans obviously knew an invasion would be attempted, just not exactly where and when) took months.

Another subplot The US knew how much the Germans respected and 'feared' General George Patton. The Germans were sure he would be in command of the invasion when it came. The Germans, at least Hitler and his closest high commanders, were also sure the invasion would come in the Pas de Calais area of France since it is closest to England. Working off this knowledge, the Allies built a huge, phony invasion army in the middle of England, far from the real invasion forces in the southern parts. Counter Intelligence let the Germans 'know' Patton had been given command of an army, and the Germans assumed it was the invasion force. In reality we just set up dummy camps, complete with inflatable rubber tanks and trucks, dummy landing craft in harbors, all to fool German reconnaissance aircraft taking pictures. To mislead German radio eavesdropping, a unit was formed to do nothing but send phony radio messages. Germans listening in heard lots of orders being radioed ... requesting supplies, ordering units and even single men to move different assignments, details about court martial proceedings, etc ... everything a real army force would be communicating by radio, and all phony. Worked amazingly well too. Germans deployed their main forces in France in the Pas de Calais area before the invasion, and kept most of them there until a month or more after the invasion, believing Normandy was just a ruse.

Totally agree, thank you so much for your service!

Damn that’s rough, thank you for this piece of knowledge though!

Thank you so much! Yeah that was totally meant for all of us!

Wow that’s an old one! Thank you for this suggestion!

@@camandzay John Wood is absolutely correct. "The Best Years Of Our Lives" is a fantastic film with moving performances by a stellar cast and brilliantly directed by William Wyler. It's a little old but holds up very well.

I'll have to check that out. I remember listening to NPR one morning and two parents were talking about the difficulties their 23 year old son had after returning from war. (Sadly, he killed himself.) I generally avoid war movies, so I don't have many points of comparison, but the movie that I thought of that Cam&Zay should watch is Wings (1927), a silent film about two friends who become fighter pilots in World War I.

Thank you for these!

This means so much to us, thank you. More importantly though, thank you for your service! Glad we have people like you in this world!

@@camandzay Thanks Men!! Again, good reaction! Keep em' rolling!!

I don’t blame them! And thanks for the book name!

@@camandzay Spielberg and Hanks are doing a new series now called Masters of Air dealing with the 8th air force over Europe supposed to be out late 22 or early 23 basically part 3 from band of Brothers and The Pacific. Might wanna watch that before you say join the air force.

Yup, such powerful words! Thank you!

Thanks so much for the kind words! Glad you enjoyed!

Good thing it played out the way it did, thank you for this!!

Ahhh gotcha thank you!!

Mellish was killed by SS. Steam Boat Willie (the one who killed Capt. miller) was just a regular German soldier.

I’ve seen it, absolutely beautiful film, Zay has not seen it, I hope to show it to him one day, definitely on this channel! Thanks Titanz!

Thank you for your service, it means so much more!

Thanks so much for the kind words! We hope so too!

Think back to earlier in the movie when Tom Hanks's character was saying that Private Ryan better deserve this and that he better go on to create something or cure cancer or do something great with his life.

Yup, I totally agree, thank you for the comment!

Thanks so much, and yeah, the BIGGEST!

Oh wow, damn that’s a shame about the Czech. Interesting about the random shooting to avoid taking a life, thanks for the information!

Yup! Thank you!

Yeah seriously, bless them immensely. What a wild thing to have to go through, hard to put into words.

Thank you for all these fun facts! The Green Mile is high on our list! When it comes to #2 I think it’s fair to have said what I said regardless of my experience.

Glad it played out the way it did! Otherwise we may all be speaking German by now

Thank you so much for this information!

We’re going to! Thank you!

🤣🤣we weren’t sure for the longest time!

And if my grandfather died in the war, I would't be here. So I have much to appreciate of his sacrifice in the war.

Didn’t even notice! Thanks for this!