My son got me out of the trauma bond, I ended up in an auto accident, 6 months recovery,, and 2 years to get my head straight! My son is my best friend. Kids are important, can't wait for my daughter to move closer! 💕

I understand! Happily single for over a decade!

Will you be having another webinar? It looks interesting/helpful.

My daughter’s mother is a covert narcissist and a therapist. I am done with relationships. I can’t go through this again.

I need the workshop.

😅what will we do then? I feel exactly t same at 60 having watched this vid

I hear ya! It isn’t worth it.The peace of being unattached IS worth -your peace of mind across the board.

Agree... Because chances are you'll pick another one.. I have a friend who's on her 3rd abusive husband... She leaves one then picks the same personality in different skin for the next one..

Very wise, i managed to steer clear of dating for a decade but eventually ran into another by default! Back to the peace and liberation of independence and solitude. Good luck!

Yep, so done with a man. It's peaceful even though I'm poor!

The unconsciousness of the narcissistic always feels undeserved entitlement to whatever they want, no matter what they've done or who they hurt, I've seen no remorse except for when someone doesn't give them their way

Bars !!

It's like never taking out the garbage....Sure at 1st you may be able to get away with it but come back a while later & see/smell what the living conditions are like🤢.

say it louder for the narcs in the back🫡

You thought you can just slide in a RDR2 reference and we don't notice 🤣🤣

Me too

My grandma told me she has always been this way and I had to learn to live with it. No I don’t and quit going around her

@RobinSpeer That is absolutely true! I dated a woman(7mos. older than me) who was 3yrs into a stage 4 lung cancer diagnosis. This was before I learned about narcissism, so I tried to enrich her life. Including helping her quit cigarettes. I had never met someone who was so angry, delusional, and ungrateful. After 3mos together, she grew frustrated with me, and started to devalue & triangulate me against her ex bf. I had already began learning about narcissism, and recognized the red flags, so I disappeared on her. I've been free of her for 14mos. I've spoken with ppl who have known her for almost 20yrs and after sharing my observations with them, they have all told me her narcissism has only grown worse not only as she's grown older, but esp. since she received her terminal diagnosis. now, and life has gotten so much better since leaving her.

Very very true. And if they chose you in thier old age. You are doomed

They become malignant monsters...

Agree. Guess who the very first narcissist was/is? Satan.

I totally agree

It’s a spiritual problem

They are.. They open a door to the demonic world because of how they treat people. Pray when interacting with them every time if you can’t have no contact..

Evil is an old biblical description of narcisists.

It's weird. Why have kids if you're just going to feel jealous and tear them down? Your job as a parent is to help your kids live confidently in this crazy world. This man had to wade through a lot of confusing BS with his dad 🙁

I grew up in a house with two neurotic parents. My dad just had anxiety issues, but my mom is a narcissist. Now that my dad has passed, mom is a real handful !

U r a good parent. My mom didn't want me to grow in my career and she devastated me last december by beating me ad yelling loudly like a monster. We stayed in a hotel room. She create so much fuss that the hotel men called and reminded us to leave the next day. Even today, I can't sleep at nighty, always crying and fearing for everything. She used bad words in front of my dad and my little daughter. She thinks herself to be an angel down to earth. After that she blocked me in whatsapp and not at all talking to me. She made my dad too to hate me saying more lies about me. I sent a message that I will end my life. For that message also there is no reply from them. Now I am 40 years old and she is 67 years. She is very jealous on me and my kid😢

I grew up with 2 malignant narcissist, there is not only envy or jealously from them, but hate too. Imagine we were 6 kids, 2 were the golden child and 3 scapegoats, yes! Just because 1 scapegoat wasn't enough for their big ego, the 2 golden child were supported by them, with money and school, even inherited in life from them, the others we are surviving and barely making our needs done, among siblings we don't have a good relationship since our parents always instigate hate and competition for their "love" between us .. I can keep writing the damage done, but thanks God I have been recovering , i am the only one aware of all this in my family the rest ended up being narcs too. So sad, so damaging these demons in flesh should not reproduce, they only destroy the life of their kids, do you wanna hear something even worst? My hometown it's infested with narcs too, and these narc family dynamics are very common there, so i do believe narcissism it's genetic

my mother had kids to keep my Dad with her otherwise she a*b*or*ted, she told me (5x)...........she made fun of me and my sister for our appearance of being unhealthy and not cared for, she would wipe our faces with sour dish rags (old days, they used rags to wash dishes) and she was never comforting or nice to us, merely mocked or made fun of our unhappiness. she did let molestation happen (denied it but over and over it happened to all of us) and denied that her dad was a molester *but both her sisters said he did and their mother told them, "you are on your own as he brings in the $$$$"). and so on. crazy jealous and competitive, I think she hated women.....and had no respect for them. she was always after everyone's man *husband, mate. but she also emasculated men if they married her. my Dad left her when she bragged in a fight *which was often and violent, that the child she was carrying was not HIS child and so he left with us. sooooo soooo jealous and hated me. they are out there, trust me.@@Here4TheHeckOfIt

It is so true...Even with all their taking, they are still unbelievably miserable with insanely raging egos. They have no internal peace and their hearts are devoid of love. They're always on a hair trigger to have their world collapse by anyone's even well-meaning comments. That's got to be the worst existence imaginable!

Yes, I think so and it's like they do it themselves. Their personality type can hurt them in the end

And they still have an eternity in hell to look forward to.

I wish this was true. Kissinger didn't. My grandfather didn't. My mother seems to be doing fine, despite disabling me as an infant and gaslighting me about it my whole life.

​@@Solscapes. The universe has a way of balancing all things. Just because you don't see justice doesn't mean there's been justice denied. If your mother is like mine, its the appearance of doing fine they really care about. They are so competitive they can't even get along with one another (they have acquaintances, not real friends),, can't eat out without someone spitting in their food, to die badly. Some would say that because they reject any introspection and live an unexamined life, they've had lives not worth living. Live in the truth!

GOD SAYS DIFFERENT

@@doralinda81 True but quite rare because you have to fight so many demons; its very very hard. Been there, and I most sincerely wish you the best.

I hear they run in families sometimes. .

so very much wish I had this truth told to me decades ago. thank you

You mean he or she

Energy Vampires

Skilled nursing facility? What is that?

Ummm…make sure you aren’t labeling dementia and Alzheimer’s patients this way. They truly can’t help their behavior. It’s not narcissism for them but brain death.

@@susanfudge1737 Nursing homes that's where a lot of narcissists are being dumped and no one comes to visit them either.

Spirit Sucker is quite accurate, unfortunately they do more than just sucking other's spirits, they literally tried to poison their soul and those who pitied and helped them

😳 Your dad is an absolute weirdo! Why would he want to compete with his own kid? I'm sorry if I'm being harsh. Hope you're living a great life now.

@@Here4TheHeckOfIt They compete with their own kid, because their entire life is lived by making sure others feel "less than." Even their own children. Which is why the age-ing narcissistic parent, as their bodies are failing them, get meaner and meaner as they blame others for their physical decline. No accountability. Everything is OTHER people's fault. Even death and dying is caused by others......... not a natural process. Especially since it is the ultimate in loss of control.

It's delusional is what it is.

Why didn't you just pretend to lose?

​@@joyfulj1663 ok, and then what?

These must be the people everyone feels so sad for because they have no family? Well, they do but no one comes to see them.

but are all that dies alone narcissist ?

So true!

Almost everyone die alone in exception with air crash or other circumstances. The most important thing is where is your soul going after this life.

Thank goodness their families found the strength to leave and build safe lives for themselves. People don't get a free pass on abuse just because they're dying. The only sad thing in that situation is how nasty those people must have been and the trauma they must have inflicted on their families for it to get to that point. I hope their victims found peace. For myself, I won't know when my abusers pass. I went no contact 3 yrs ago after yet another attempt on my life. It was long overdue. Maybe they'll find someone to be there for them in their final hours, but it certainly won't be me.

You are so right. Separated from narc ex husband now for seven months… he’ll be 64 on his birthday, we met when we were both 25… all that time together, many separations and getting back together, nothing ever changed because he didn’t change, they definitely get worse as they age… I just wish I’d left him years ago but lived in hope that things would change but they never did. A narc will never change, they can’t because that’s who they are.

Yes!

Constantly complain as well!! I saw such folk in a nursing home I worked in back in the 80s do this!!

Thats true trying to get you to continuously compete with them just sad

Yes. There was an evil child that hated me, when I was caring for her she would cry just to make others think I was mistreating her.

Helen .that must be Draining . Generally very exhausting mentally and physically because I am sure they must be demanding your attention all through yet others need to be attended.

Ikr??? Mine (the last one) is serving 5 years of a 20 year sentence. His worst fear. I take no pleasure in his self induced misery but I’m grateful he won’t be able to hurt his children or women……at least for now!!

Agreed 💯!! They are now in control by/from KARMA ?!?

Absolutely.

They will do anything to cheat death and avoid their messes. Send them to Pluto. One way.

Yep- left my mother when I was 50, and she died when I was in my late 50's. She will not be missed!

Fortunately my narcissistic mother always loved my brother and sister the most. Now she can live with either one. Went no contact 10 years ago and I don't regret it.

I did the same to my narcissist mother. I stopped seeing her, stopped, talking to her, and I stopped making any contact with her and her husband. The last time I saw them was in 1997 their probably dead by now, but if not they both would be 80 years old. My mother was never in good shape her entire life, always over weight, and lazy. Never did exercise to stay healthy. Living amongst narcissist is like living with the devil. No thanks.😇😇😇

I've been gone 5 yrs. In that time she got dimentia. My brother needs help prepping to get her in a home. I agreed to help. My compassion and understanding have me in a false belief that she won't be evil now. My body is reacting otherwise lol. It still holds the trauma and knows who I'm about to deal with. I am prepared lol.

Dam i understand 💯 percent

I’m finding that true, my mother just turned 88. She no longer sees, nor talks to me. Just holiday greetings, only. It’s heartbreaking, but I finally am at peace about it.🎚⚓️

Alot of them seem to get dementia

​@@cca3422Same here at 50 years old. My mom is 81 but I see her maybe once a year and I no longer talk to my three siblings from what I call my ex-FOO. (Family of origin) They fly out to see me annually but they no longer invite me to the Thanksgiving or Christmas functions like they be used to because I stood up to my scapegoating siblings 8 years ago. As the saying goes, "It's better to be alone than in bad company!" It was a process that started 8 years ago and like yourself, I'm so much more at peace that I do not have fake relationships like those any longer in my life. PS--not everyone who becomes virtually alone is a narcissist. Some are SMEAR CAMPAIGNED upon SCAPEGOATS

🤔you could be right there… I’m having those thoughts about my narc ex husband, things I’m hearing about him, sounds as if he losing it!!!!

Interesting, I live by don’t dare me, the response is usually very shocking to the person who does. They have absolutely no clue I have no eff’s to give, so just try me. I guess the silver lining of childhood abuse is there is no reason to walk around bragging about how much one can endure and not break. It seems to catch many off guard🤷🏻‍♀️

I've burned a lot of bridges, I also have no EFFS to give. I decided in my early 20's never to put up with people's crap, life's too damn short to be miserable. In saying all of that I've got some amazing friendships that go back 55 years.

Yes, you develop lines and if people continue to cross them then that's it: short scrift and not suffering fools. We've all learned not to tolerate abuse because we have already suffered it. One positive outcome of having suffered narcissists although it takes while to develop for the gentle souls.

@@user-ik4sy3jo5tYep! Oh shit. And it’s all true🙈

​@user-ik4sy3jo5t i wasn't writing an april fool's joke in the comment section lol. narcissists in old age are everything mentioned in the video. even worse. their nastiness is the real deal. -regards, steven

@@user-ik4sy3jo5t Yes, shit, lol! They start to stink of it both literally and figuratively.

​@@narcicide8814 you're right...narcissists, no matter what age, are like used pampers diapers. self-absorbed and full of 💩 lol -cheers, steven

​@@narcicide8814 agreed. narcissists are like used pampers...self absorbed and full of poop. -cheers, steven

Wow, that's an incredible life story! I see you have gone through a much of tough tiems and you want to help others by sharing yoir experience and how you dealt with problems. It's always amazing to see authentic people thrive off of their traumas and heavy problems and turned their dark times into a strength!

Hang in there. My sister finally saw the light.

Your story resonates with me. I also left home at 17 with very basic qualifications and had to learn to survive. I saw myself through film school top of my year and after graduating with nothing let to prove, drove a cab for ten years. Gave it up for the stress and danger, and became a singer for ten more years. Working in entertainment I met more narcissists and backstabbers than the rest of my life put together. I changed domain providers to save money and lost my Google ranking overnight. And had no energy or desire to get it back. I'd sung the same songs for ten years and never really enjoyed doing shows, though the money was good. I lacked the true confidence, set myself ridiculously high standards and hated every performance I did bar one or two. I was on anti anxiety and antidepressant drugs. I slept all week and worked one day at the weekend. It was barely living. I sold everything and moved to France for two years, but slipped into an even deeper depression and stayed indoors with the shutters closed for the whole of August. I returned to England in the fall with barely any money left and got a job as a cycle messenger, with the idea that I would get into shape for my latter years. I also had a boyfriend half my age for a couple of years, which was an interesting experience. Cycling was the happiest I've been, earning peanuts, but the camaraderie and unconditional acceptance of the messenger community is extraordinary. Or was... Now things have changed once more. No radios. Apps. Electric cycles with legs hanging down and none of them speak English. I feel depressed again but I'm working on my music, the only thing keeping me going. I miss the riders and the life but I'm getting too old for it. I'm so glad I saw the twilight of traditional messengering. But the world now. I don't really like it. I think I'm slightly narcissistic, but not as much as my mother, and as for my sister, she's a vulnerable narcissist on steroids. I can't help her any more, I don't even know how to, and being around her ratchets up my stress levels to ten instantly. My mother is okay with me, because I was the golden child to some degree. I really like that you became a waitress. Doing real work for real people means more, and a simple life is the best life of all. Finally, my parents have had their health challenges, some are ongoing, and I thank God every day that I can walk and talk and sleep and do all the things I want to. But the future is for me a dark place full of shadows and dead ends. I'm 54.

THANK YOU. Even just sharing that much helped me.

Peace be with you. 😢

Bless you, im getting there. Thank you for sharing and giving strength to others

@@jbrown2908 Agree. When I hit 60 years old, I just suddenly decided that I don't want to spend another decade being verbally abused. My childhood was miserable, but she still treats me the same as she did when I was a teen and there is no talking sense to her. Believe me, I have tried. Her mother lived to be 100, so I do believe I am at risk of losing another 10 years to misery.

💜

it's okay at this point to dive into that last 10 percent. My mother told me in an exasperated fashion, as she was dying, that she wasn't going ANYWHERE! Fine. Roam the earth as a ghost in a tattered nightie. I won't be holding any séances to help her.

If a narcissist is accusing, she is confessing.

That’s exactly what I went through. The” I’m stealing money from my xwife.” After going through divorce stuff I found out she siphoned off $400k from my accounts in six years time.

my own mother stole jewelry from me and when I laid my beautiful watch on the sink to bathe a baby *in her house, it "disappeared" and she and her husband were the only ones there............denied it forever........but I believe she also took that...........bought the clothes off my back as well, had to have everything I had and to try to be "me"........ugh. I never knew, I kept trying to please her, never suspected she hated my guts............finally had to wake up..........took me years to acknowledge that she was the enemy who was always telling everyone I was horrible, horrible things (lies) to make me look bad.....it was all her.

The narc I had the misfortune of living with would try to throw my stuff away, telling me it "had to go" because I "wasn't using it." Bullied me to give them my old computer or a car I was hoping to get fixed so they could turn around and give to others to appear so magnanimous. Then, they started with nasty, digging comments insisting I was "stealing" from them, and claim I was taking _their_ stuff and money. Imagine how irate I was when this person kept doing this and then tried to pass it off as a "joke." They were told to stop lying and trying to attack me. One day, they had the audacity to blurt out, while in a giftshop owned by someone we both know, "She's a thief, she's always stealing from me!" And when he did it, everyone started looking at me weirdly as though they wondered if I might be shoplifting. I lost my temper and confronted him, demanding he stop lying for attention and apologize to me immediately for purposefully trying to humiliate me in public. I put him on the stop to embarass him for his shitty behavior. Again tried to claim he was "just joking" and I told him that only an idiot would be stupid enough to think saying that about someone in a _store_ is "funny" because it basically comes off as intentionally trying to get someone into trouble. I told him to look around and notice how everyone in the store, including the owner, felt uncomfortable and concerned. People don't say things like that unless they are trying to play mind games with people for their own, sick "entertainment." He abruptly left the store, and I apologized for his bad behavior to the owner. She said it was weird for him to say such a thing, and that she was a bit offended he did that to me. On the ride back to the house, I shared her comment with him and told him I will not tolerate his attacks on me, especially in public. We rode home in silence then. The next day, he avoided me, which was just fine. The following day, he acted like nothing had happened. Typical narc behavior.

honestly, if they do not outright steal, they find a way to get it, they have NO morals whatsoever, I have never known a narc who didn't manipulate or steal in "legal" ways to get what they want. pretending to care and all the while scamming to get the goods of this elderly woman *my old neighbor (she did get it all too). my "golden monkey" brother moved in on my mother and spent her money while saving his pension and SS and living off her for years, we were not allowed to see or visit, he turned the police away at the door as he had been a cop (not a good one but for "power") so he had a badge, and we don't even know what happened to her in the end. he was / is a narc. my niece manipulated my mother who was frail and had dementia and could be pressured, did just that, pressured her to change her will to leave everything to HER. but it's "legal", right? it says so on the paper, right? and so on and on and on. I have many, many stories and all thieves, one way or the other. "the ends justify the means" for them. no ethics, no morals at all and certainly not God.......@@thomashenshallhydraxis

Venomous snake

Yup. I ended a relationship at 48. Im 61 now. Still no desire. I thought maybe I would get into one after a few years. Nope.

In the exact same situation, how do they live with themselves after the chaos and trauma they put everyone through , quite disturbing , may god help us all to never live that again

He is pitiable. He will only have people hang out with him as long as he has money.

Unfortunately I went from one narcissist marriage to another 😕 😪 🙃 😞

Same here

All of my brain is convinced, cannot believe it, he knows every member of the family i married into

Lol, same here.

😅

that's because it's so prevalent

That is my belief as well. I give them narcissistic supply, and they need more and more. It a void

@@user_kH9bw3ns1 Yeah, I'm dealing with a narc right now. You have to think like them. Everything, and I mean EVERYTHING, is transactional to them. So when I feel like this person wants something or whatever, I act like the GM of a sports team and get into horse-trading mode. You get this if I get that. Drives 'em nuts, but it's impossible for him to view me as weak (they think everyone is weak) because he can smell that I'm on his level. I'm speaking his language.

Only a man-child with mommy issues wants his girlfriend or wife to be a mommy figure. It's sick!

You better believe they are parasitic oh my god.

I just told the same kind of guy I'm not your friend and I never was. Don't put me in your category of friends cuz I am not your friend.

Their users

Parasite is right! 👏

That is very cruel of him. Whew!

Leave him. You owe him absolutely nothing

Why are you taking care of him. If you cant leave bc if finances ok, stay and make his life hell. He can cook his own food, wipe his own ass, and wash his body. You might not be able to leave but stop being a slave to someone. He owes you everything and you him nothing let him suffer.

You sound a much 'bigger person' with great strength of character! Salutes for continuing to care knowing what you know!

Wow.. Mines more Covert.. But everything is all about him.. He does tell his coworkers his crazy wife is a conspiracy nut.. But he kisses my butt mostly because he knows I want to leave..

Please seek the help of a therapist who specializes in recovery from narcissistic abuse and trauma. There is help out there.

@@michellebazin7988 Thank you! Have a blessed day. 🩷🙏🏻

I'm so sorry you went through that. Sending you a big hug

😢Sending you a big hug. 🙌

@@michellebazin7988 Thank you so much. God Love you. ❤️🙏🏻

@@jbrown2908 The freedom after going no contact was AMAZING.

My narc and I could’ve had such a wonderful life. He made great money (and so did I, even though he undermined my career) and I did everything else, was a fantastic cook, great entertainer, I’m not hideous… It always blows my mind how jealous his friends were of what he had, not just me, but everything, but it was never enough. More more more gluttonous more. He took absolutely zero pleasure in simple things. Never wanted to just look at the stars, or enjoy snuggling, or doing something spontaneous. Just a lump of miserly, lazy nothing.

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I'm so glad you figured that part out. For me, that was one of the hardest things to deal with... You expressed it well too! Good luck, fellow survivor!

@dontbeadogsbody3564 Years hey are empty vessels who leach onto you for a personality they don't have. Literally, I honestly think I "fell in love" with an ex because it was actually me he mimicked back at me! It was like I fell in love with my own traits! That there was never really anything there. It was all in my head, the person is thought was in front of me. It was a fraud in front of me. My mother was the same only she married him and lived with him for 40years. A man she thought loved her to the day she died,when in fact he was a fraud. Her whole life with him was a lie he wasn't the person she thought he was.

Jesus that's hard.

It must be horrible. That is their ultimate goal to leave you with problems and illness. I also fought a long time to avoid my narcissistic parents make me ill but they won in part that I made a mistake with career choice, experienced unemployment in my young adult life due to the recession, being an introvert, autistic, and with ADHD that put me at a disadvantage to become financially independent. They undermined me and sought to make me ill. I am ill now but money is no longer a problem for me and they can no longer make threats of making me homeless or putting me in jail. Though I am sick now and I am recovering years of life that I lost due to them.

I'm sorry you went through that. I hope you have found a way to move on.

Blessings and healing to you. You are beautiful.

Same exact story here. When my parents split, I was 16 and it was the happiest day of my life.

Yes!!!

Right they are losers but living int thought of winners

I love this so much💕 perfectly worded

No disrespect to you under no circumstance but know that women are also narcissistic as well, It’s in both genders !! The sad thing is narcissistic people once was an innocent loving child that had to shield him/her self from some extreme trauma in order to survive in the way they only knew how to !! Suppressing every emotion or empathy in them in that thought to be safe place in there brain trapped there very being in captivity and they’ve lost who they were !! There is help for them if they can manage to mustard the ability to accept that they have a problem!! They can actually be healed through the power of the Holy Spirit where God saids it will renew the spirit and regulate the mind setting the captives free !!!!! Keep your selves safe and just pray for them !!!!!!

I was also wondering if I was wrong for being glad my biological dad died.

😂😂😂😂 . . .

I have a narcissist 95 Yr old mother in law, who is very spiteful and makes life hell ! the world has to revolve around her . We will get our life back when she passes on 👍

My narc DID die about a year and a half ago. I had gone no-contact ten years before but I never felt completely safe until I got the news. There was always the off chance the monster was going to pop out from behind the curtain and go after me again. Can you imagine being the person whose legacy is massive relief that you're finally dead?

I didn't want to move again but was forced to, 6 times have I since getting the boot at 17, so when asked why I stayed I replied where am I to go? Narc mom would have liked me to live with her, even inherited the house but I'm not that desperate to get away, love yourself 1st it's what's important!

​@@dnwittedon't have to imagine, living it also, I fear dementia diva whose finally locked up with no phone gets one and calls, the ultimate scam artist!

My aunty resembles this ignore her totally pray I never get to go to her funeral...

Same thing happened to me when I started helping an old neighbor lady. I started doing things for her and she kept asking me to do more for her. Her son, who only lived a mile away seldom visited her. She started yelling at me and I was finally done with her. She kept calling me leaving angry messages but I just ignored her.

@@mrsmucha problem with me is I answered the messages and I foolishly came when she called.

People that have nobody have already burned all their bridges. It should be a red flag when they say they have no family, relatives or friends to help them.

Me too!!!!

The kids are narcissistic too...enablers.

Does she live in Australia

That's sad

Aww that's so sad..

❤️‍🩹💔💔 that is sad 😔 It’s sad it Seems they they’re doomed . Makes me wonder why God would allow this . What a doomed life they live

@@Seraphim7 this is a fallen world and is ruled by satan. That's why God allows it to happen. These people all had free will to choose and those chose hatred and pain.

I fear my mother, in her late 70s, is going to be the same situation. It breaks my heart that my dad passed just as we were starting to like each other for the first time in my life. Growing up, our house was always in some kind of tragedy or uproar, and my mom had me believing it was because of my dad. Looking back, I now see that it was her all along. I also found out that I, being first born, was the child used to trap my father into marriage. I feel like I survived my childhood, emotionally speaking, as my mother will point out that we were always provided for.

Beautifully said! Thank you! 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏

Very well said... My prayers are that their souls be saved and that they will look to the hills from Whence Cometh their help and know that their help comes from the Lord.... I still love my husband 😭😭😭😭

They try to assume and hijack your self and identity

yes, my narc brother once said he could lift the same weight as me (they were jealous i could throw my nephew in the air) and his wife piped in and said "yes, we just haven't had the training." As though they had been unfairly excluded from some secret class on how to do push-ups. 😂

The jealousy is unbelievable! My job, my looks, my accomplishments, anything and everything that she never was. My narc mother passes almost 2years ago now, but I'm still dealing with all the hurt and pain she caused me, and probably will for a long time to come. I pray that anyone that goes through this heals quickly. God bless you all ❤️🙏🏻

Wow.. It just clicked I lived that.. My dad always said he didn't want to put miles on the car.. Yet 35 years later he runs the roads.. It was about control. So instead I baby sat and almost all the "father's" were perves trying to hit on me as they drove me home.

Narcissists are children who never grow up. They want to have the highground over you and when you're an adult they will try to keep you in your place. You can never know anything more than them or better them. I'm 69 with a 96 year old mother who to this day does not allow me to voice my own opinions. They will disrespect you till the day they draw their last breath.

Boy it sure does!My narc father would literally close the curtains at 3:00PM even in the summer out of fear that "bad people" would 👀 in through the 🪟s at him despite the fact that the 🪟s were all way off the ground even🤪.

@@malwads1836 Mine used to shut all the shutters in the house even upstairs so the house was always dark. I would open them and he would close them again I didn't understand why he was doing this. Your response may be his reason.

My heart goes out to you.

Can you get out of this abusive marriage?

@@carpediem6431 In the process. Every time I get frustrated with how soul sucking the divorce process is (when nobody in the court system acknowledges this type of person, even though they’re obviously everywhere, specially in divorce court), I remember how soul sucking the marriage experience was. Trying to extricate myself as quickly, and not as penniless as possible.

@@dontbeadogsbody3564 I wish you the best. Good luck. The struggle will be worth it when you are free.

@@carpediem6431Yes. Thank you. 😊

Thank you and the same to you, (((Hugs))).

-- Get out of caretaking them! Leave! I did. Your number one responsibility is to care for yourself. If you feel that YOU HAVE TO, that you have no choice, then you need to overcome co-dependency. Co-dependency is very serious.

How are we supposed to "seek support" when nobody around us will help us? All they want to do is either hold up the previous delusions of the narcissists or just edge away as fast as they can. Happened with the plumber this morning (whose family has been a longtime friend of the family).

I, too am in this position with my elderly narc parents. They will constantly team up against me to degrade me, stick their noses up at me, say and do cruel things. It never ends😢😢😢

Much love to you 💜 My elderly narc parents discarded me 4yrs ago 🎉 Hallelujah, praise the Lord 🙏 They and my narc sister deserve each other 😈

Always fight in life struggle is the sign of life , worship god and then bless will come. In utter dark one match stick is enough to come out of darkness.

You have described the details of my situation exactly, except it was my mother who was this way. I don't think I will ever get over her final betrayal. I miss my brother. We were friends growing up. Of all of the things she did to me, losing my brother's love and respect was the worst. I am 61now, and glad I'm on my way out of here! She made my life hell.

You have a chance at peace now. Don't give him one more minute of your life. He took enough. He crushed you, a child sent from God. You have nothing to feel guilty for. Reclaim yourself one baby piece at a time. You can come through. Peace and prayers.

Get rid of that guilt ! My narc father died 30 years ago- he absolutely poisoned my only full sibling against me .. and for that I am sorry .she followed in his footsteps)… BUT him ? I only very infrequently even think about him , and I am relieved that he can no longer hurt me . I miss my mother ( who also died 30 odd years ago ) every day ! But him … naaah… he did his best to destroy everything about me … so my best revenge now is living well … and forgetting him most of the time … which is a victory !

You described it well their end goal. Narcissists want to leave you with problems even when they are not their. They seek to haunt you. I have self-sabotaged myself throughout my life, in my studies and in my work, because I hear their narcissistic mental abusive comments in my head. I also realized later why my mother was intentionally stunting me with food and why my father was preventing me from becoming strong when I was 16 to 20. They did not want me to grow as a man. My father was fearful that I would become too strong that I would be able to defend myself and my mother and sister, though they became narcissists from the conditioning and brainwashing.

😁 Wish I would have had that courage.

Well, now she’s going to haunt you.

hahaha...I'm happy for you :)

​@@tabletsam5624 i pray You will feel loved by someone in Your life, it doesn't have to be Your parents. And i hope Your parents will be also good, we can only pity them and wish them improvement cause narcs are not very happy in life.

Oh wow you rock made my day! I leave mine alone, I just send cards but it's really for the staff!

2024 is the year of Karma.

Keep shining your light!!! 🙌♥️

I know what you are talking about.. its like they see me and it says to them.. You know I know. I had to stand in line with one of them for 45 mins and it rolled off this person who was ahead of me. I literally developed a headache. Stress went up right away.. and there was no way to shut this man up.

My husband has this evil aura about him he’s so nasty and I think it’s why he smells but it’s a smell that comes from inside.

Totally agree. I think we're having a collective reckoning with institutional and media narcissism

The absolutely worthless court system and the no-fault divorce? The narc in my life is so greedy and selfish. I’m sure he is socked away all kinds of things over the 26 1/2 years we were married and whatever he’s telling me about is I’m sure just a very small portion, which he is also trying to steal. We not only live in a pathocracy, it truly is a demonic realm at this point. The worst people are getting away with everything in every single aspect of life and nobody is doing anything about it. Only now do all my friends and family tell me they didn’t like my husband from the start. Thanks. Thanks for having my back. 😕 my mom was a narcissist. His mom was a narcissist. I wish I hadn’t wasted my life with him. It would’ve been really fun to of been with someone who loved me and actually wanted to do things and make a life as a couple together. But my narc was apparently always only looking out for himself.

Yes! This so much! My narc foster mother sa me and I have ptsd from it. Plus depression and anxiety. Any a few illnesses that were preventable. On top of that people were encouraging me to see my abuser in a positive light. She was never brought to justice not even for the sa. I have anger deep inside of me due to that injustice.

@@danika9411 I'm slowly making myself let go, but it has often been a "2 steps forward, 1 step back" journey. Learning more about what was really going on - through a lot of videos here - has really helped me make some progress. Hopefully, you can find some peace as well. God bless you!

My therapist advises that my “justice” is that I made it well beyond the development of an emotional four old unlike both my parents. With hard work I can treat my CPTSD and toxic traits I recruited to survive my neglectful childhood. What confuses me is how these types are so fluid socially and intellectually. My parents owned two businesses. Only in my fifties do I now notice the many one dimensional people walking the earth who lack emotional depth to be able to empathize and experience intimacy. I do feel sorry for them in way from a distance. They kick ass at work as they aren’t slowed down by empathy like most people. It’s fascinating but also can lead to me focusing on them which is a problem. 💜

"Justice is the purview of Heaven"...please be kind to yourself, that is the only justice we will find here

Oh my goodness. I hope you have a fulfilling life

@@JS-il9nw its been a journey but it is more peaceful. Thank you!

My story is similar. But he’s still alive. Although your story gives me hope and inspiration. A girl can dream. 😊

Mine survived quadruple CABG, sceptic shock, serious knee and shoulder injuries etc but his miserable end will come soon.

Good

Lord, my ex narc will be 70 this year,, only exemption is he’s not fat ! Oh and he’s not living in one room as of yet.

Agree. Wah.

Lol 😂

I read it at the time he said it

...& when they croak......Time to break out the party hats🥳🤣!

My narc had rage just below the surface that almost anyone can sense, but he came from a very repressed, rural, Swedish German background, so there were a lot of repressed things that of course caused problems for him later in life, because he never learned how to self soothe. His superpower is restraint, so he always looks like an even keel, dependable guy. What a liar.

​@@dontbeadogsbody3564that sounds like my deceased full Italian m last husband. Everyone thought he had it under control. But he saw everything as a personal slight, an insult. It was trauma just talking to him to stop him from imploding and hurting himself or others.

Aging is everyone's enemy, it has nothing to do with narcissism.

@@devilsoffspring5519 Aging doesn’t have to be an enemy. It’s a natural part of life. It’s how you’ve taken care of your body, maintained your social garden, lived your life That determines how harsh the aging experience will be. Aging can be a wonderful time. Lots of wisdom. Slowing down, enjoying and reflecting on things that you never had time to do before. Moving into a different role. But narcs only have one way of being in the world and because they do not develop any wisdom, they do not learn to accept or enjoy any of these changes.

@@devilsoffspring5519 Aging is a natural part of life. It doesn’t have to be an enemy. It all depends on how you lived your life, took care of your body and maintained your social garden. If he’s lived a life where lots of your bad deeds are going to come knocking, yes, aging is bad. But aging is also a time of great wisdom and reflection. You are able to think about, do and reflect on things you’ve never had time to do before. However narcs have no restraint, so they’ve likely abused their bodies And never learned how to take responsibility for caring for their body, they left that up to their supply. They dislike people, because everyone is competition, unless they are supply, So they do not have the kinds of friendships that help support the transition from aging to death. They’ve lived an unscrupulous, oftentimes disgusting life and unfortunately because they’ve had no interests outside of vices, in their old age, they must sit alone and be reminded of all of the things that made them alone now.

It might have been my Dad 😅

😅

Glad you recognized the nastiness and sickness. Hopefully you got out after the first few times you saw the behaviour.

Oh they so do 😂

If no one gave them any notice they will deteriorate very fast They live longer when they have the opportunity to take other peoples energy, time, money

They often live much longer because of the lack of doubt in their soul.

they fear dying

So true my grandmother is 96 the only sibling alive.

Some are just so delusional that it’s hard to take them seriously, but unfortunately even though they look like a buffoon, they are doing nasty crap on the down low. Such horrible people they are.

What a sadist true loser he is, proud of u that u left him ❤

Agree. After 23 years of abuse why do you still have contact with him?

@@carpediem6431 I don't. When we were finalizing the divorce I was waiting for a financial statement from him. Instead of the financial statement, he texted me the photos. What an odd question you ask? You okay????

I think he buffaloed you. He can threaten all he wants but after 23 years of marriage you have half coming. You can make him sell the house and split. GET A LAWYER! Don't believe his lies. Narcissists lie about EVERYTHING!

I’ve been told my whole life by my parents and my cousins that I owe my parents. Only realized a few days ago how much I have sacrificed for them which is my entire life thus far. I just want peace.

What about the chrildren that have been abused in institutons that are left with such physical & emotional scars that they have the bottle or a needle in their arm for a minutes peace; or the ones that were murdered ,or didn't make ir ? The church people dont want to ackowledge that though even today ! Carn't speak out againts the churches?! Really?Then there are the chrildren that are told by their cruel narc Mother's that they "wished they never had them"? l was told that at age 10.I did all her messages on her whim,cleaned the bathroom to her liking each week or else do it again totally.Cleaned up the whole kitchen after dinner after school . which left school homework undone. Washed & polished my Father's car each fortnight.Did the lawn on the other weekend.She also demanded presents - that I knew I would forfeit my 20 c pocket money to provide bc& I went hungry at school at 10 years of age .The kind Nun would give me extra milk as she saw how thin & how I would look longingly at the salad roll's on tuck shop day with my mouth was watering.I was told on my 5th birhday, that I was old enough to to do her shopping now .I wondered how on Earth to get to the shop? I was simply told not to get into cars with men ,& not to.talk to strangers & what she wanted. to.the letter.Later when older 16 /17 she would accuse me of inappropriate behaviour & rage on for ages if 10 minutes late home on the bus from work? I was too old fashioned for that!!I even hitched hiked for 2 months to get them two sets of crockery (as we were so poor looked down upon & unnessarrily) even though girls were going missing & murdered at that time. .Both parents never stopped me - although I was hurt that they didn't after the first box of crockery.The boy upstairs was terrified & warned me, but I pressed on for them & their betterment. At that time too ,my Mother hated my boyfriend from.school & threatened to.put me in the ,'bug house' if I didn't stop seeing him;& marched me to the Social worker to do so.. The Social worker was beyond horrified .I gave them everything.Forced to sell my cheap house to buy a better one for them - which I did & got a morgage whilst 'they,' decided too & fro if they would live there or not for 5 & half years as I toiled to improve it with my Father ? I bought it for them . Finally, after asking permission to have a morning coffee with a gentlman at age 49 as I scrubbed my Mother's floors one moening & being told no ! After,being a slave to them both & seeing a crash coming like '29' in 2002 soon for 2008.I sold up & had to move far away to purchase a house.I still suppported them & bought them.a lovely car soon after the sale so as they would't 'look poor' - that was nearly as much as the house & I had to walk on a broken leg for two half years to provide..it was excruciating.. & I cpuld have lost my leg.I nursed them both til.their deaths.They realised as they went down hill suddenly. Mum with dementia & immobile, & my Father blind,just how' dependable,' I was . Next Narc arrives in the shape of a boyfriend & was utterly cruel, dishonest & horrible, hurting my beautiful dog Hetty & myself on every level physical,emotional, financial ,& with typical untrue gossip abuse 20 years on now.I dont want to look for the good in people no matter their position nor how pious & religious they appear to be as it is not the truth.So very shocked ,hurt & disappointed in the human race as a whole.Look at all the Wars & the death chambers...On & on it goes. One has to be stronger than strong to survive these creatures.I say to anyone if you see unfair ,& preposterous behaviou's ,& if your not broken totally RUN & GIVE THEM NO QUARTER, as some learn when too late, when your nearly an invalild yourself..& many recalcitrant dont.The Bible says never help an evil man(.no.doubt woman ),as your reward will be 7 fold. I have many sad memories,injuries,broken bones & immune disorders to endorse that. God has intervened & protected me ,but I am here now at 70 with a life of disbelief & sadness. Please Take heed.God Bless. .

@@cjvklhortonfamily5 i wish this peace to you with all my heart. You deserve it.

Absolutely 👍 Hope you came out of this narcissistic "game" 💐🧙

I grow up with a narcissistic father very aggressive and physically and verbally abusive, i was very miserable dealing with depression, hate and suicidal thoughts, ending up very sick. About 7 years ago i give my life to Jesus , i accepted Him as my Lord and Savior , He healed my body and my soul, filled me with joy and peace. Please call on Jesus, He can do it for you as well. God bless you !

Be careful, of course Don’t tell him of your plans Just get out, safely & never go back

Leave. In silence. Best of luck

Basically a toddler with those rages. Tell him to grow up! Get out in secret! He might want to stop you. Have a trusted person with you in case he stops up. You may have to leave a lot of possessions behind..better that than your sanity or your life!

Leave quietly. Have a good plan and a plan in place so you can STAY gone. Ex. Make sure you're not a position that you need his money or support for anything. Make sure your family/friends/support are on your side and let them in on the plan.

Quietly gradually set back 💰 in a safe place he doesn't know about, it'll help you escape more comfortably.

Stay away from anyone who casts spells and uses voodoo on others. Get into tge bible...only God can heal..He is the Great Physician who created you and can heal you. Voodoo and spells uses demonic power from the pit if Hell and eventually makes things worse for you.@user-yy9mt6kl3h

A good self look into one's shadow side if you dare. But generational bad & condescending, non-loving behavior is a tough call to unlearn. Total karmic return for some very unhappy NP in old age! 😬😬😬

Learn your own worth. Learn to be comfortable alone. Then, you will find a healthier relationship in which the other person values and cherishes you. Wishing you the best.

Well nothing makes a woman want a man more than having another woman. Start dating, educate and better yourself. Give her more space than ever. What youre doing isnt working so do opposite. All for best version of you. But dude she left YOU SLso being sappy and beta male isnt attractive. Strength and not needing woman is attractive to them. Good luck man but in reality she is getting pounded by other dicks bro move on.

Grief process needs to be complete before dating again. It is unfair to use a woman as a pacifier to move on

That is how I lived. Always on edge. Trying to read her mood. Living in fear. When you relax she attacks.