Scherrie is very classy

Yes she is that woman is very gifted.

SCHERRIE PAYNE AND HER SISTER FREDA. ARE AWESOME SINGERS AND BEAUTIFUL LADIES

"And They All Are BEAUTIFUL, How Rare Is That, Beauty And Can Sing"...🤣

@@user-fc3ki3gb7u "Met Freda Also, In Boston, She Was Very Nice, Also, But Being A SUPREME Fan All MY Questions Were About Scherrie"...🤣

If Mary Wilson had been able to leave her ego and bitterness at the stage door it would of been different. Cindy was and still is l understood in poor health .. Over the years Mary had become preoccupied with trying to bring down Diana Ross & the Supremes legacy but at the same time make a living from it . Her legal battles with Motown for using the Supreme’s name cost her dearly and served only to deepen her resentment and post Supremes career disappointments . In my opinion she sadly tarnished her own legacy by doing so .

@@joeclarke6973 after Mary wrote those nasty books in the 80s, she should have been happy Diana would even consider working with her again. Scherrie even seems disappointed with Mary.

@@joeclarke6973 This is funny. You talk about Mary having ego and bitterness? Diana Ross' childish ego could not handle Mary writing a book about her perspective as a Supreme and for years Diana's bitterness toward Mary meant that Diana dissed any public honor or recognition the Supremes ever received -- she wasn't there for their RRHOF induction in 1988, she wasn't there for their Hollywood star ceremony in 1994. God forbid she should have to be around Mary Wilson! You are living in some fantasy world to write that "Mary had become preoccupied with trying to bring down ... The Supremes legacy." It's only because of Mary Wilson and the other ladies Mary hired in the 1970s that the Supremes legacy continues today. Diana Ross is not out here representing the group that made her famous. Mary wrote books about their fabulous journey, about their unforgettable fashions. Mary is the one who ensured their designer gowns are on display for the public. Mary's legacy is secure. It's Diana who should be ashamed, now that she is the only original Supreme living, that she should continue to sh*t on the Supremes legacy by not showing up for their Grammy Lifetime Achievement award last year.

@@tuesdaybeauty9767 "Nasty books"? Writing about how someone treated you is "nasty"? You got life twisted! Your logic is, you can treat me like trash in the 1960s, and it's okay for you to then be offended that I tell my truth about how you treated me, then I'm supposed to be happy that you are treating me like trash in the 2000s, too?

@@lecuyerdooley1084 your reply was so dull l stopped reading it 🥱 . I think maybe you and Mary had a lot in common 😝

"One Of MY Favorite SUPREMES Albums Is That One"...😂

Yes! That album you can listen to from start to finish.

@@michaelcarroll2399 "You Ain't Never Lied"...🤣

Scherrie is a lovely lady and a wonderful singer. But to be historically accurate, there were actually only two official "leads" in the Supremes: Diana Ross and Jean Terrell. Both were chosen by Berry Gordy. After Jean left, the group had no recordings for almost two years. Mary worked hard to reinvent the group as an "Ensemble Act" with no designated lead singer. Mary and Scherrie shared leads very evenly (50% each) and later with Susaye. This is proven by counting the lead singers on each song in the three studio albums after Jean left. It is also validated by tv and club performances, and further validated in Mary's book.

They do already under the name F.L.O former ladies of supremes

I agree with what you are saying here, but Mary didn't really talk Cindy out of the tour. Cindy very foolishly decided to let Mary handle negotiations for the both of them as a team. If anybody knew the toxic drama between Diana and Mary, it was Cindy. Cindy should have known to negotiate for herself. My understanding is that she was extremely disappointed when negotiations fell through, and I totally understand why. At that point in her life, the money from that tour could have been life-changing.

The reason the tour was a failure is because that self obsessed no talent tramp Ross couldn't bear the thought of ever giving the other Supremes equal billing and the deserved respect.

Mary was just goofy. She was a whole original Supreme but always stayed mixed up. I remember seeing Mary all over TV talking about a Supremes reunion but when you look back you realize she never had a dam contract! How are you speaking to the press about a deal you don't have? Also, idiotic decisions like selling her life story to DreamGirls for no money. I see why Tony Turner said the things he said...Mary never knew how to get to the bag. She was controlled by her emotions.

Mary negotiate for Cindy? Mary couldn't even negotiate her own deal. Did you hear Sherrie say she spoke with Mary's manager who admits to making a mistake in Mary's negotiation? He dug Mary in a hole.

@jasonwonder6803 Yep, but, it gets worse. Read Tim Adrahtas' "A Lifetime To Get Here;Diana Ross:THE Original Dreamgirl", for the full account, starting on page 289, if memory serves. He interviewed both the promoters and the people at the Motown Museum, and even get me started on how Wilson manipulated that debacle.

@@TheReturnOfStephan1 Thanks a lot for the referral, I am going to read that passage this week. I'm sure it's more proof Mary was twisting the facts. Mary's legacy is not aging well with time. So much of what she crusaded over has proven blatantly deceptive. She was an ommisive liar and manipulator.

Diana never wanted Terrell to sing backup for her. She wanted Terrell to sing lead on the hits on which she had originally sang lead. The tour was supposed to be a celebration of the group's entire run. Diana had her own backing singers.

I don't think Diana Ross wanted Jean Terrell to sing background, but I think Jean thought that was what Diana wanted. Maybe it was a miscommunication from the promoters. I also read that the promoters wanted Jean to audition, which was a ridiculous request. Even so, I think Jeanette should have done whatever she could have to get on the tour. The fans would have loved it, and Jean wasn't doing anything else that summer to earn a million dollars.

Scherrie mentions all of the 70s Supremes, that's who she had encouraged the promoter to include on the tour. She specifically mentioned Jean, Lynda, and Susaye. Mary was not misguided. She was offended. The idea for a Supremes anything was not Diana's; it was a promoter's. And for several months, a promoter was the one negotiating with Mary Wilson. She felt, rightly so, that if a Supremes reunion was to happen, then the two original Supremes should have been doing the planning and negotiating, not a promoter. The missed opportunity was Diana's. She's the one who felt that all Mary Wilson needed to do "was show up." Mary Wilson had much more seniority as a Supreme than Diana, who left in 1970. Mary hired the very women Diana chose to be a part of the RTL tour. Yet, Diana said all this Supreme Supreme needed to do was "show up." Mary could have staged that show all by herself given how many years she had performed a Supremes show. She taught Lynda and Scherrie whatever they know about being Supremes. And they wanted her to "show up", like a microphone stand or a riser on the stage, just another prop.

Mary’s jealousy got the best of her! Diana has that IT FACTOR and Mary didn’t! Point blank! Look at Destiny’s Child! Beyoncé has that IT FACTOR too! I can’t imagine Kelly Rowland or Michelle selling out stadiums, let alone 5000 seat arenas! Sometimes, you gotta know your lane and your place! Mary obviously didn’t know hers!

@@cookingwithsylvmac6831 Funny you should mention selling out stadiums because the very reason the Return to Love tour was canceled was because Diana Ross couldn't sell out the stadiums they had been booked to perform. Did she not know her lane, either?

@@cookingwithsylvmac6831 How Was she jealous when she ended up agreeing toward the end. Plus, Diana let the promoters and managers deal with it the entire time after she initially called Mary. If she knew it was miscommunication about Mary thinking differently, she should've stayed in touch. Even Berry advised her to make sure Cindy and Mary get on and to stay in touch. Diana didn't have the star anymore to fill a stadium especially with Scherrie and others who everyone knew was forgettable. You all love to place all blame on Mary its ridiculous

@@I-AM-BELIEVER So, so very well said. During this fiasco Mary continued performing while that tour was going on. I refused to buy tickets to see this show and as expensive as it was to know there’s no other original Supreme on it. How the hell did Diana think that this was going to work when it was originally being promoted as a reunion with Mary Wilson and Cindy Birdsong. Her damn ego continue on with Scherrie and Lynda who many didn’t know who the hell they were just us true Supremes fans. Mary gave a top notch performance at BBKing’s club in NY that summer 2000. I took my mom and aunt to see Mary in action. My mom whispered to me, NO WONDER DIANA DIDNT WANT HER ON THAT TOUR, SHE IS GOOD! Mary also stopped the hexlers who was yelling out DIANA WHO? Mary said, stop that…there was THREE SUPREMES. Diana refuses to acknowledge the group she became famous with never showing up to the awards shows that recognizes the group’s achievements. That woman will never change and I also don’t support the FLOS. Anyone who truly LOVED the Supremes was Mary Wilson. She kept that group alive for so many, many years with her books, fashion shows of the groups gowns, and her shows. Kudos and ever lasting love ❤️ to Mary.

Your opinion, but a shortsighted one. The problem from the get-go was a lack of respect for Mary Wilson. She knew more about the Supremes than Diana Ross and all of the promoters, yet they treated her like a prop from the start.

@@lecuyerdooley1084 looking at the special treatment Ms. Ross recieved (with the original supremes) , it is understandable that Ms. Wilson would be bitter. However, that was the past. If she really loved the fans that made it possible for her to be a star, she would have done the tour. Moreover, according to sources , unlike Mary who didnot need the money from the tour, , Cindy Birdsong could have used the funds.

@@thadlincolnii7398 "That was the past"? Would you tell someone who spent years in an abusive relationship "that was the past"? No one has to put themselves into a situation just because other people want them to do it. Mary spent her whole life ensuring that Supremes' fans had a Supremes experience -- she didn't owe anybody anything. As for Cindy Birdsong, she allowed Mary Wilson to negotiate on her behalf. She is a full grown woman. Mary cannot be blamed for what happened with Cindy. When she saw that Mary and Diana could not reach an agreement, she could have done her own negotiating.

@@lecuyerdooley1084 It was the past. 1)Unlike an abusive relationship, the dynamics that were in place in the past that focused too much on Ross were not present. 2)if Mary was still holding on baggage from the past (which apparently she was) she should have said that as the reason for refusing to work with Ross.(not money and who called who first etc) 3) Without Mary the original reunion fell flat. Cindy was out. 4)Any person who becomes successful from the public does owe the public something. 5)imagine what would happen to an Artists career if he/she announced in the media, "I have done enough for the fans, I dont owe them anything more".

@@lecuyerdooley1084 And yes, after Ross left the Supremes, Mary was the catalyst for continuing the group as the Supremes. Ross is now a solo act. However, The purpose and the main box office draw was reuniting the original members prior to Ross' departure (Diana, Mary, Cindy)

Absolutely

I guess some of y'all will do anything and let people treat you any kind of way as long as the zeroes on a check are the right number. And then you have the nerve to say someone else's screw was loose. Geesh.

@@lecuyerdooley1084 like Viola Davis said, you don't start talking about a movie until AFTER you've filmed it. Mary didn't know when to shut the fuk up. No deal but still blabbering. Kept running her motherf****** mouth. Playing victim got tired with the public. Mary died an unhappy woman with a lot of regret. Issues with her family cause she chased attention. Exhausting and mentally unbalanced. No one is going to agree that she made the right decision in the end, except people like you who rooted for her downfall.

Mary was horrible in business and mentally off. She didn't know who she was as an individual. She kept saying she needed Diana and Flo to "complete her". What? What grown ass woman in their right mind says that? Mature females know they complete themselves. Mary was sick minded.

Good point. All of the 70's Supremes did have to sue Mary and her husband over money.... And they all won. Mary was just messy.

Maybe Mary would have learned her lesson. Because she was out of control for years. Just saying all kinda wild things . Mary always went too far and didn't know when to stop.

Oh stop this nonsense. Mary Wilson did not interfere with their tour. She was asked why she, as an original Supreme, was not on the tour because the public and Supremes fans had an interest in the answer. She told her story. She didn't lie. "Torturous interference" is not even a legal cause of action. LOL

@@soundofyeyna315 What are you talking about? There was no money in the 1970s for the Supremes and none of them sued Mary or won any money. Mary made sure that no one was able to call themselves "The Supremes" after the group was disbanded. They could be the FLOS but not the Supremes.

@@lecuyerdooley1084 Learn about tortious interference. Mary never had a contract to participate in Return to Love. Yet, she publicly and adversely spoke repeatedly on this tour's contractual matters when she failed to secure a monetary agreement. Mary's appearance on the television program 20/20 demonstrated her retaliatory intent to then publicly disrupt the economic relationship the tour and its participants rightfully had a right to share with the public. Mary's public behavior is also one of the elements which caused her potential contract to be withdrawn. It is my belief Mary should have been sued.

Funny, that is. It didn’t look to me like Mary was hurting for money. And “never follow Mary’s example”? That is a woefully ignorant judgment. What do know about Mary’s life? And what do you know of her regrets? Mary kept the name and legacy of the Supremes alive. She was a professional, she showed up, she reached out to new audiences, she was a phenomenal beauty with class and style. Her work and dedication, in my opinion, far outweigh any petty grievances between her and Ross. And by the way, I am an admirer and big fan of Diana Ross. Like it or not, Mary Wilson had a lot to do with the success of the Supremes and Diana Ross.

@@hianksiety I'm not reading all that. Mary needlessly lost her friendship with Diana and ended still begging for reunion tours before passing away as regretful.

Mary was horrible in business and mentally off. She didn't know who she was as an individual. She kept saying she needed Diana and Flo to "complete her". What? What grown ass woman in their right mind says that? Mature females know they complete themselves. Mary was sick minded.

@@reginahighbridge7519 Something was way off and backwards for sure. Mary should have been doing the exact opposite of what she was. She should have befriended Diana, worked to heal their relationship privately and stopped talking to the press.

​@@meanalipz7289Don't you think Diana Ross should have buried the hatch between her and Mary.

Mar was no angel like most people think She had issues with being jealous

Mary was no dam angel

@@cecilanderson2930 MARY never claimed to be an angel. But some on here act like Diane walked on water.

Mary should have caught a lawsuit over Return To Love. She really should have been sued.

Mary was jealous of Diane. Diane, like everyone else, gas the right to do what is best for them. It is clear that Mary was jealous. She would have fared much better to have gone along with the Reunion...she did not consider the fans in her decision to refuse. A true supreme would have made the right decision

Totally agree her resentment and bitterness was at the forefront . Following her refusal to take part she then went on to diminish what Sheri , Linda & Diana had created . She left behind a tarnished legacy -good ridden’s to her

But how do you know it wasn't Diane's fault?? Where you there during the negotiations to give a first hand account? There are always two sides to every story, it's we who choose to believe one or the other.

@@AzzedineAliaFan EXACTLY! Diana quoted with Barbara Walters that she stayed OUT of the negotiations between Mary and Cindy. WHY? Then she says this was HER TOUR and she thought it would be a good idea to have former Supremes on it. Diana never wanted Mary especially on that tour then she lies and says to the media she was so sorry negotiations broke down with Mary and Cindy. She had Scherrie and Lynda on standby just in case. She knew Mary wasn’t going to settle for that amount of money knowing good and well Mary has been touring the world making just that much on her own. AND since when she steps back from any negotiations when it’s her tour. I’m sure she didn’t step back from negotiations for Scherrie and Lynda because they’d settle for anything. I wasn’t going to see this tour anyways because Mary and Cindy weren’t on it period and the media ate this up coming to Mary who was upset this happened. Beyoncé gets along well with Kelly Rowland and their friendship lasted throughout the years but after Florence was kicked out of the Supremes Diana and Mary’s true friendship died then and maybe before Flo was let go.

Mary Wilson, made a huge mistake she would’ve got $1 million but she asked for her own type of gown. She wanted her own solo song, and this was a reunion tour, and the worst part that Miss Wilson did was ruin it for Cindy Birdsong, miss Wilson, was together with the miss bird song, so as Cindy Birdsong says, if Miss Wilson didn’t do it, I couldn’t do it. It was some contract or something between her and Mary Wilson.

@@vincentmarchese8202 Hearing Scherrie's version this whole idea was handled wrong. Diana having been partners with Mary and CIndy as the Supremes should've talked with them herself rather than have someone else do this since this was supposed to be Diana's tour. If it was MY tour I would like to talk to those who are going to be a part of it myself than having a second or third party speak for me. This is why everything fell apart and Mary thinking Diana is getting all this $$$. You see how something so simple can just fall apart when things aren't handled properly. How sad. And it manifested into ugly televising of Diana and Mary insulting each other on TV plus Diana making sure Oprah or any other TV host NOT mention Mary Wilson being the reason why Scherrie Payne and Lynda Lawrence became Supremes in the FIRST place. So sad to have seen all of this ugliness. Though I didn't support the RTL I did however meet Scherrie and Lynda at a Supremes Convention in NY in 1998 and both were lovely ladies. Mary sent a video we all watched wishing us all to have a great time since she couldn't be there and rumor has it she didn't want to be there because she and Lynda didn't like each other. But before Mary left here Lynda Lawrence showed up at one of Mary's concerts just before the pandemic hit and it was nice to see both former Supremes smiling together.

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@@ujimajame4601 Not a big spinal tap fan then?

Mary was horrible in business and mentally off. She didn't know who she was as an individual. She kept saying she needed Diana and Flo to "complete her". What? What grown ass woman in their right mind says that? Mature females know they complete themselves. Mary was sick minded.