I clicked your name and this took me to your KZfaq site. Your videos are fun to watch and filled with useful info.

@@eileenjohnston6835 thanks Eileen! 👍

Your channel is very fun and informative.Keep posting new videos👍

@@ravirishav3842 thanks Ravi!

I think if your traditional skills are good, you should be able to transition to digital pretty smoothly if you need to find remote work. Also, you can still photograph and submit work online for some illustration jobs if you can work fast enough. Greg Manchess has talked about this, I believe. You could also teach or do mentorships online

"a country where a career as an artist isn't a "real" career" Don't let that type of stuff confuse you though. If you find ways of making money through your art, it can definitely be a career. A lot of illustrators STILL work in traditional media. It's slower and more expensive and as such you have to be really good at it to succeed. But in most ways this applies to anyone doing digital art too. Competition in the digital art realm is insane. (By the way, traditional illustrators will ship their physical paintings, they do not send photos as the client usually pays for the 'original artwork'. Do a search for someone like James Gurney and how he works when he makes paintings for magazines like National Geographic etc.).

Peter Anton yeah I just need to be good enough of an artist so I can make it. Thank you for the advice

PHeMoX yeah you're right I was just bitter cause it's surprisingly harder for traditional artist to compete with digital artist. Most costumers that I see are just looking to hire someone for their anime avatar. But it's not like I'm giving up on being an artist or anything. Thank you

Omg I have this same problem. I’m 18 and I plan on making a career as a traditional artist. But I’m scared that traditional art is “out of style” and that I should move with the trends. if you don’t move with the times soon your skills wont needed and it will be hard for me to find work. Everyone and they momma doing digital art and now a days people don’t want to buy or are looking for traditional art. And I’m also talking about the job industry as well everything is digital. I do love digital but traditional has my heart, I feel closer to my work and physical seeing the medium and the paper. Nothing beats traditional art in my opinion. KZfaq like Matthew Sorgie give me hope, though he uses a mix of traditional and digital I would mainly consider him traditional.

Yes please!! Saludos desde México!

Yes

In a way, I think he is teaching us. But yes, I agree., school please!!!

Good idea!

I'd happily help him fund it, if he started one in Florence.

Agreed. Just teach me how to draw and show me the great artists I should be looking at. I went through 4 years as a Studio Art major without being told about Alphonse Mucha, Heinrich Kley, NC Wyeth, Bernie Wrightson...had to seek that out for myself in post grad

It gets worse. The university art professor will often also demand a portfolio 'showing your creativity' etc. A lot of these schools are much less about the true expression of self as you'd think. And most definitely do not teach you how to draw.

They're just too lazy to teach the students and tell them to learn it themselves

“School is a tool, don’t let you be fooled - learn that rule, break that rule, if you want to be an artist in full.”

Very cute! Sitting here laughing! :)

Unfortunately, most schools fail at teaching or focus on teaching the wrong things. I went to university and got a degree (not in art), however throughout all the time there it was never about encouraging critical thinking or researching facts. It was always about trying to fit within the mould and following their 'rules'. Heck, most of the time research wasn't even really about following the scientific method and finding some valid truth, but more so about quoting whichever scientist got a stamp of approval for whatever theory they promote already. It's actually pretty dumb stuff. If you have the chance, I'd suggest going the route of self-taught artist. I did so too and whilst painting for me is just a hobby, I couldn't possibly see myself justify spending huge amounts of money on art schools. In fact, isn't it funny when those art colleges tend to have you submit portfolios for admission, when they are supposed to 'give you tools' to become a more creative artist?? I always found that curious. It seems very backwards.

made it at 10 veiws and i meet a fellow irishman nice

@@Rayan-qk2xw ...are you muslim?

I think that's how we all do it. Even in school is piece by piece on our own.

@@santocesart thank you 🙏🏻 I'm great admirer of your work, from Italy.

Lol

Cesar has made an in-depth video about that. He also mentions it in this video: the Angel Academy of Arts.

I dunno what he'll say, but New Masters has been great for me this past year, as has CGMA. I think you really need to find an ongoing mentor in addition to that, so they can critique your work.

Hey Asian -me also Asian and stop feeling sorry for your shelf as Asian I’ve fought for half my life to be and do art never stop if you love Art - no one can take that from you....it’s up to you and as some intelligent soul once said "it’s your journey that counts not weather you reached the destination "even if you reacheD your destination you will look back at the struggle and make your stories for the lives that will cross your journey. So enjoy the struggle and no it’s not easy I know it better then you can imagine so - sobbing Asian....start your journey don’t stop and enjoy

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Yeah, take what's useful from each school and dump the rest

Si tengo 4 en KZfaq (cesar santos en español) y es verdad no afecto mi carrera!!

Could you tell us more about your experience?? By escaping a " cult" what do you mean? Is it because everyone is obsessed with classical realism and nothing else??

@@becky8030 1) I was NOT taught the basic skills I needed for drawing. I KNOW this because I was **finally** taught those skills by my second teacher (a Grand Prize winner at the Portrait Society of America) and the professors at the community college. 2) This atelier was like a religious cult in that **his** school was the **only** path to artistic nirvana. If you left the "One and Only True School of Art" you would be condemned to the world of artistic outer darkness. 3) I wasted thousands of dollars and 18 months of my life trying to achieve a goal without being introduced to the skills I needed to achieve them. The worst part was the gaslighting. I was made to feel that it was my fault for not being able to master drawing. 4) VERY BAD EXPERIENCE! Once I escaped the cult my realism skills took off like a rocket and at a fraction of the cost. 5) All of my professors at the community college and my new teacher ( an award winning realist painter himself) were **very** supportive my goal of becoming a realist painter. One professor even arranged for me to take several independent study course specifically designed to strengthen the skills needed for realist painting. 6) Suggestion: If you are considering an atelier, be sure to talk to the students who dropped out of the program.

@@eileenjohnston6835 may I know the name of the school so I can avoid it?

@@mrbadboy911 I hesitate to give the name of Atelier but my teacher and wonderful mentor is Bryce Billings. Mr. Billings together with the teachers at the Salt Lake Community College ( especial Rob Adamson and Rick Graham) were excellent teachers and very supportive. Mr. Billings won the 2014 Grand Prize of the Portrait Society of America.