Sci-Fi Special Forces comparison - 40K-Halo-Star Wars

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Nutbug

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25 күн бұрын

In Sci fi interstellar and interplanetary warfare, elite special forces operate in the shadows, carrying out critical missions that often determine the outcome of interstellar conflicts. Among these legendary warriors are the Orbital Drop Shock Troopers (ODSTs) of the UNSC in Halo, the Tempestus Scions Warhammer 40K and the Clone Troopers of the Grand Army of the Republic in Star wars. Each group, forged in the crucible of war, exemplifies the pinnacle of military prowess, tactical acumen, and unyielding resolve. These special forces, each with their distinct heritage and tactics, share a common bond: an unwavering dedication to their cause and a readiness to face insurmountable odds. Here in this video we will assess each one of them and come up with an answer as to which is the best in comparison.
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@Stanislav292
@Stanislav292 23 күн бұрын
Welp... Armor is better in 40k because carapace can protect from bolter rounds, next is star wars because specifically commando armor is better than clone armor and than odst Weapon is correct but commandos have very cool blaster that can be changed !IN BATTLE! from standart cqc to sniper rifle and even grenade launcher Mobility: You should read 6 Ed codex about tempestus scions, where they were dropped from orbit ON THEIR OWN WITHOUT ANYTHING but their equipment and SILENTLY captured AA guns of fortress world and then astartes conquered it. And about jet-packs scions have these too like elysians(they even have scions as elite units in their regiments) And tactics yeah... 40k just have more enemies So again one-sided win for scions) P.S. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR VIDEOS I think it's best comparing content about these AMAZING universes
@kovadlinka8118
@kovadlinka8118 23 күн бұрын
also some Crapace armors are reinforced by adamantium inserts, that really can stop most of bolter projectile, except heavy bolter projectiles or Krak bolts
@Stanislav292
@Stanislav292 23 күн бұрын
@@kovadlinka8118 even astartes power armor cannot stop those rounds
@kovadlinka8118
@kovadlinka8118 23 күн бұрын
@@Stanislav292 astartes power armor is sufficiently resistant against heavy bolter projectile and can stop them, but only few of them... Krak bolts can penetrate Lemon Russ tank side armor and even terminator armor can resis only few of them
@Neoth40k
@Neoth40k 23 күн бұрын
Having more enemies doesn't mean better tactics, in fact it just means more ways of being defeated. Despite this, the Zions are not after anyone, Since all the special forces mentioned are used in the same scenarios in their respective universes, that being throwing soldiers behind enemy lines and hoping they complete their mission and return alive. Otherwise, you're right
@ugobrignon1741
@ugobrignon1741 22 күн бұрын
Clone commando have shielding armor, they are much stronger, intelligent and have better reflex than any standard human in 40K because they are heavely modified by the kaminoens, they are to form by mandalorian commando so they have one of the most rude, brutal and difficult formatin capable in the Pre and Clone war era. We can speak about the capacity of the clone armor who have aim assit, long range coms, HUD for map and gestion the filter the multiple types of vision like infrarouge and ultra violet vision. The weaponnery who use plasma and work like this: The projectile hurt the body+burn and after that explose for crush ur internal organ and can do 30cm of diameter hole in ferrbeton. The commando have modulaire weapon who can be an assault heavy rifle, a grenade launcher using percing grenade or HE grenade or be a sniper rifle capable of percing B2 hull who are very difficult to percing. clearly clones commando are just a stray updage have better armor, weapon and training.
@repentence
@repentence 17 күн бұрын
You did the Clone Commandos dirty by not mentioning their Katarn armour and their DC-17 integrated weapon system.
@LuoSon312_G8
@LuoSon312_G8 23 күн бұрын
ODST the group with the lowest tech, has punched far above their tier class
@danielefabbro822
@danielefabbro822 21 күн бұрын
ODST are mad. Don't mess with those guys.
@psycholamborghini4828
@psycholamborghini4828 16 күн бұрын
Dropping feet first into hell
@whiteeye3453
@whiteeye3453 13 күн бұрын
And yet guardsman fought tougher enemies than halo odst with flashlight
@markypangolin8063
@markypangolin8063 6 күн бұрын
​@whiteeye3453 and yet, it takes ten thousand of them to do what a platoon of ODST can accomplish.
@whiteeye3453
@whiteeye3453 6 күн бұрын
@@markypangolin8063 yeach sure lie to yourself Odst wouldn't win they would get stomped so hard they literally piss themselves to death
@BFG-Based
@BFG-Based 22 күн бұрын
ODSTs can have jetpacks though... "Bullfrog incoming!"
@blackc1479
@blackc1479 22 күн бұрын
Iirc in the clone commando novels it mentions that by the tail end of the clone wars the clone trooper numbers were up to a total of appx. 3 million. The clone commandos were about 1k before geonosis, and about 500 afterwards. And there were only 100 alpha arcs in the beginning. Over the war however, the republicwas forced to start backfilling positions as well, i.e. "promoting" troopers to commando.
@epicassassin8502
@epicassassin8502 14 күн бұрын
Correct
@MandoSki464
@MandoSki464 22 күн бұрын
I will always love my clone commandos in that beast Katarn armor. Blame delta squad from back in the day lol but tempestus are sick and should get much more love in the lore and with there own novels and its dang near impossible not to love the odsts as well which I tend to usually like even more than the Spartans for some reason
@leonhardthomasius8872
@leonhardthomasius8872 23 күн бұрын
the scions do have a form of grav packs which allows them to drop from low orbit like the OST, so they would beat them in mobility as they could descend from high altitudes mid mission and i assume they could use it to help in reverse with climbing, though not as mobile as jetpacks
@miketeeveedub5779
@miketeeveedub5779 23 күн бұрын
I bet the Empire was pissed they didn't have clone troopers at Endor, because the plain-Jane Stormtroopers' armor was breeched by rocks and sticks, as brilliantly demonstrated by the Ewoks in Return of The Jedi.
@yellomellow9481
@yellomellow9481 18 күн бұрын
ACcording to the book material, the arrows and rocks pierced the crevices of their armor..not to mention Ewoks are like ants, their strength is just that level.
@gono4806
@gono4806 23 күн бұрын
Hell yeah this is exactly the content I love with multiple factions, thank you 🙏. Btw did you forget that ODSTs have jet packs as well? We see it in Halo Reach.
@death5348
@death5348 7 күн бұрын
Pilots from titanfall not being here is criminal
@NastyStankyChicken
@NastyStankyChicken 23 күн бұрын
All these special forces are amazing at what they do, but scions are next level. With the enemies they have to face comparied to these other universes and that they can succeed, scions take this pretty handily. I remember in Eisenhorn a squad of Kasrikins are deployed with Eisenhorn and a Daemon Host appears and begins to attack them, when they know their weapons are ineffective against the Daemon they just whip out their grenades and jump onto him blowing themselves up without a moment of hesitation to give Eisenhorn a chance to escape.
@markypangolin8063
@markypangolin8063 6 күн бұрын
Unsurprising, because 40k humanity have 40 millennia or if you just count from huros heresy, 10 millennia to improve their technology. Now, if it's Halo humanity in 10 millennia or 40 millennia from the current setting? Well, let's just say with the shoulders of Giants they are standing on, they would reach height not even the imperium of man can compare. Now that I think about it, they would be like the Golden age of technology level by the point or surpassing that.
@jakewalsh1029
@jakewalsh1029 19 күн бұрын
The commandos in legends were no joke
@cheesemaster3003
@cheesemaster3003 23 күн бұрын
Dope video The only problem I see is that it's a special forces video yet you only went over standard clone armor and weapons instead of commandos or ARC troopers. I doubt they would have allowed the clone army to beat the scions but their equipment should have been mentioned.
@blackc1479
@blackc1479 22 күн бұрын
Was going to say something similar.
@raftguy1376
@raftguy1376 8 күн бұрын
1. Tempestus Scions are drop troops. They have grave-chuts (which aren’t jet packs). The Elysians aren’t more elite than them. They are normal guardsmen that can deploy like scions. 2. ODSTs can have jetpacks.
@timothyperez1246
@timothyperez1246 5 күн бұрын
In the starwar franchise its stated that the clones can sometimes be born with the ability to yous the force and thay can make clones with the abilities to yous the force on purpose. There was a story of darth vader having to fight and kill them all because the person in charge of making the force clones got drunk on power and basically betrayed vader and his master at the time.
@kevinsmail3701
@kevinsmail3701 22 күн бұрын
I would say the LAAT used by the GAR would arguably be better than drop pods because after deploying troops, the dropships/gunships can provide fire support. Even if they don't linger, they have air to ground and air to air missiles depending on variant that they can fire off on approach and as it returns to the ship it came from.
@dakotalange2858
@dakotalange2858 23 күн бұрын
Dude you don’t know what spec forces for 40k are the scions, the Spartans and Odsts would be for halo and the Null troopers, clone commandos/ arc trooper are for the clones
@user-fp3in2kf3b
@user-fp3in2kf3b 23 күн бұрын
Scions could also be teleported into battle or where they are needed And yeah, they have options with drop from low orbit
@michaelgautreaux3168
@michaelgautreaux3168 23 күн бұрын
The "RCs" are supreme! The others are beyond reproach but Skirata's sons are that cut above! The Nulls, the Arcs & the Commandos. The "Star Wars" equivalent to the Kasrkin!!!
@felop1187
@felop1187 16 күн бұрын
The scions do have jump pack units, also they do not have jetpacks, the elysian droptroops use gravchutes that can at best keepmthem in the air for a few minutes at most as they are used as paratoopers
@psycholamborghini4828
@psycholamborghini4828 16 күн бұрын
ODSTs bring some serious skill despite being in a position with low tech compared to their enemies
@Pzlineman2017
@Pzlineman2017 4 күн бұрын
Their were only 10,000 commandos made, they were one offs. Regular clones got promoted to ARC troopers
@GhostChild808
@GhostChild808 17 күн бұрын
Did this channel do a versus of Helljumpers and Helldivers yet? 😂
@lightnihilus
@lightnihilus 23 күн бұрын
Am for Starwars. You should do all Starwars Legends vehicles. From the smallest to the biggest. The least firepower to the most fire power. Factions of the Republic, the Separatist, the Empire, the Rebellion, the New Republic, Mandalorian, the Old republic, the sith Empire. Like the XR-85 heavy tank, for example.
@Neoth40k
@Neoth40k 23 күн бұрын
That would make several videos
@jaegerbomb269
@jaegerbomb269 23 күн бұрын
I can't wait for Super Soldiers! Space Marines for the win!
@danielefabbro822
@danielefabbro822 21 күн бұрын
Space Marines usually just die on the battlefield. Spartans usually wipe out armies and fleets or even entire planets like nothing. There's a reason why the Covenant called them "Demons".
@chetmanley1885
@chetmanley1885 21 күн бұрын
That's a Kasrkin in the thumbnail.
@cskrisz0706
@cskrisz0706 23 күн бұрын
Helldivers!!!!
@jamespaguip5913
@jamespaguip5913 15 күн бұрын
You forgot to mention Kasrkin.
@gregorygreenwood-nimmo4954
@gregorygreenwood-nimmo4954 23 күн бұрын
I do enjoy some high tech special forces troops in military sci fi.
@TheEhTeam04
@TheEhTeam04 22 күн бұрын
when I saw special forces I was more expecting Kasrkin for the 40K choice, oh well still good.
@elmesiasmadeinrusia7878
@elmesiasmadeinrusia7878 23 күн бұрын
En el caso de las armas yo se las doy a los Clones commando ya que estas son casi todas armas de plasma y tienen otras funciones. En el caso de las armaduras se la doy a la ODST ya que esta es Semipotenciada ya que posee actuadores para ayudar en la fuerza. En la Experiencia los Vastagos porque si se han enfrentado a una gran cantidad de enemigos Distintos y en la movilidad a los ODST porque los puedes desplegar donde quieras desde la orbita y también pueden equiparse con mochilas propulsores como los ODST en halo reach
@Keemperor40K
@Keemperor40K 23 күн бұрын
El problema de este analisis, es que aunque se usan terminos similares, el metodo de uso no es el mismo y el poder de fuego no es el mismo a pesar de la similitud del metodo. Empezando por armas de plasma. Aunque se usa el mismo termino, no quiere decir que tengan el mismo valor, es decir un rifle de plasma de Warhammer no es lo mismo que un rifle de plasma de Halo o el equivalente en Star Wars. En este sentido, las armas de Plasma de Warhammer estan en un nivel muy superior, siendo utilizadas para devastar armaduras de poder y hasta Astartes y en casos excepcionales hasta siendo utilizadas como armas anti-blindaje. Las armas de plasma de Halo son meno poderosas aunque no debiles, simplemente no pueden igualar el poder de fuego de las de Warhammer, aunque como vimos en la series siguen siendo brutales y devastadoras. En ultimo estan las de Star Wars, que aunque todas las armas de los clones son a base de plasma, es en un nivel y un poder mucho menor, mas similar a rifles modernos, pero con mas poder y algo muy particular es la capacidad de hacer daño extra a los androides de Star Wars que son susceptibles a campos ionicos. Pero nunca hemos visto un rifle de plasma a nivel de infanteria ser usado como arma anti-blindaje o desintegrar al rival. El arma de plasma mas similar de Star Wars a las de Halo o a las de Warhammer, son los disruptores, que como vimos en el Mandalorian si literalmente desintegran al enemigo, pero estas no son usadas convencionalmente por los ejercitos de Star Wars y hasta son prohibidos en ciertos sectores. El punto de armadura es mas complicado y tiendo otra vez a darselo a Warhammer, por que ha demostrado ser efectivo en contra de Bolters y ciertas armas de plasma (rifles de Pulso (Induccion) de los Tau), pero yo diria que son muy similares a las armaduras tipo Katarn de los Commandos clones y las armaduras mas pesadas de otras fuerzas especiales de los clones. Sin embargo cabe destacar que las armaduras de los ODST tienen cierta resistencia al plasma de los Covenant, asi que diria que en este sentido, los 3 estan muy cerca, como para determinar algun ganador. Experiencia sin embargo es muy ambiguo, cada uno tiene experiencia en contra del enemigo con el que pelean y esto cambia de grupo a grupo, en esto diria yo mas bien que cada uno tiene doctrinas, tacticas y estrategias dedicadas a sus enemigos comunes, pero esto no da bono de experiencia.
@elmesiasmadeinrusia7878
@elmesiasmadeinrusia7878 23 күн бұрын
@@Keemperor40K me gustó tu bastante tu "pequeño" análisis aunque las armas de plasma del imperio lanzan una cantidad mayor de plasma en una salva que otras aunque son más comparables al daño de las pistolas de plasma de Halo cuando están en modo sobrecarga ya que pueden paralizar vehículos con sus propiedades PEM y también derretir la propia armadura pesada de tanques
@elmesiasmadeinrusia7878
@elmesiasmadeinrusia7878 23 күн бұрын
Aunque cabe aclarar que cuando sigo modo sobrecarga estoy diciendo que el daño de ambas armas a la hora de entrar en ese modo es igual aunque la pistola de plasma de warhammer no tiene las propiedades PEM
@Rawkit_Surgeon
@Rawkit_Surgeon 22 күн бұрын
IG has multiple SF.
@markypangolin8063
@markypangolin8063 6 күн бұрын
This comparisons are really weird. Why compare a 2500 year special forces to two full sci-fi fantasy universe, with two fully established galactic empire/ government for ten's of thousand of years? It's like comparing Delta operatives of a modern army to sacred band of thebes from the greek era of fractured city-state. Tf.
@aksel8228
@aksel8228 23 күн бұрын
Hello
@sirflapfla97
@sirflapfla97 23 күн бұрын
ODST ODST ODST
@TheJadeJester
@TheJadeJester 21 күн бұрын
Lols. 40k.
@argentward1
@argentward1 18 күн бұрын
Tempestus Scions aren't even the best SF group in the Imperium, Cadian kasirkin are more accomplished than them and the Lucifer blacks make them look like a bunch of bumbling idiot children.
@Shadow96545
@Shadow96545 23 күн бұрын
Objectively speaking, applying real-life military terms, a normal clone soldier is already superior to a Tempestus offspring, not only genetically, which would be the copy of war heroes, the Tempestus equipment is large, heavy, batteries in the back, a large weapon, low rate of fire, armor that protects, but is too heavy, it is impractical, such a soldier is only useful in a few situations, the clone armor offers everything a soldier really needs, an advanced sensor package, power of computer processing for sight and aiming, temperature regulation, full protection, a versatile weapon with a range almost as great as the artillery of the empire of man, with enough power to literally turn several soldiers to ashes. The official guides explain how the clone armor can resist that kind of shots, becoming immune to the laser, it is well known that the plastoid is almost impenetrable against solid ammunition weapons, chemical weapons, biological weapons, shrapnel... The tempestus are not bad, but they have no chance, it is like facing the red baron in his most modern plane against a well-trained pilot, whose plane has a cannon instead of a machine gun and with armor that makes it slow and unmaneuverable, there is not much opportunity.
@AlterumVeniet
@AlterumVeniet 3 күн бұрын
Scions aren't slow, and their weapons don't have a low fire rate...wdym?
@NotYourFriendPal
@NotYourFriendPal 23 күн бұрын
Every faction in 40k is epic. Star Wars was lame & gey before Disney bent George Lucas over.
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