Scope height, something to consider

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Might be different to what you have always been told, but worth at least understanding.
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@kevinb9745 3 жыл бұрын

My scope and shooting IQ goes up with everyone of your vids I watch,thank you for them. Joe at Cyclops does a great job testing scopes. It was nice to see he gave someone of your caliber a shout out.Please keep up the great education for us learners,

@markandsamafterwork 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Man, glad you liked, Cheers

@jasonrad9332 3 жыл бұрын

Good stuff, I’ve always heard the mount low philosophy. I love when someone explains the why. From across the pond in Colorado.

@markandsamafterwork 3 жыл бұрын

Cheers Jason, thanks

@crafter170 3 жыл бұрын

Nicely explained .This guy would make a decent schoolteacher .I was in my local shop years ago and the gunsmith was fitting mounts with holes in them to see through and give him the choice to use the iron sights .I had to make sure my mounts were medium to ensure my f155 add on would clear .This video is very educational .Cheers mate .Good work .You deserve to do well.

@markandsamafterwork 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Man, Cheers

@JM10344 Жыл бұрын

The information you provide is fantastic. Form follows function. If it is not a desired function, double check form. Vary nice of you to mention Cyclops Joe. Both of you are making us better shooters. Thank you.

@markandsamafterwork Жыл бұрын

Cheers Joe, thank you

@paulsimmons5726 3 жыл бұрын

Glad to see two of my favorite KZfaq channels giving each other a shout-out. Great explanation about scope height pros and cons. Take care and be well!

@markandsamafterwork 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Paul, Cheers

@rickfletcher8422 3 жыл бұрын

Always the simplest titles in which I think I already know. Always worth watching, always learning! Great clip

@markandsamafterwork 3 жыл бұрын

Cheers Risk thanks man, all the best.

@richc767 2 жыл бұрын

Learning so much from your channel. I find all your information is logical and well thought out. Thank you

@markandsamafterwork 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks man, cheers

@neilharris4462 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the knowledge. Its amazing how we do things for looks when it goes against how physics and anatomy works.

@markandsamafterwork 3 жыл бұрын

Yep, all too often, glad you liked, Cheers

@lovetoflylovetofly3843 3 жыл бұрын

Excellent advice Mark, thanks for your time! You too Sam.

@markandsamafterwork 3 жыл бұрын

Cheers Man, glad you liked.

@shooterscott 3 жыл бұрын

Nice talk tonight Mark, thanks for the info and knowledge! My best to you both.

@markandsamafterwork 3 жыл бұрын

Cheers Scott, thanks

@joseoropeza5694 3 жыл бұрын

I never though of looking at it like this. You gave me some good things to work with. Thank you

@markandsamafterwork 3 жыл бұрын

Cheers

@rainbow2710 3 жыл бұрын

Brilliant stuff! So glad that there is someone, out there, that reasons things the same way I do about scope height!!! Thanks.

@markandsamafterwork 3 жыл бұрын

Cheers

@aussiesteveakastevecallagh2280 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Mark great info mate , I do follow Joe he knows his stuff and has a great sense of humour.

@markandsamafterwork 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Steve, Cheers

@davegrimshaw7318 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks again guys 👍 every video i learn something new..also keeping me sane during this Covid lockdown 🙄(we're under house arrest unless working or shopping for essential's)😏

@markandsamafterwork 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Dave, sounds like fun, not, all the best, Cheers

@fisherus 3 жыл бұрын

Mark, I am delighted you made this video as I have almost every scope I have mounted on my rifles at 2-inches high on more. Some of my rifles I used a Kick-eze pad mount, I've modified, intended for shotguns. This has allowed me to raise the pivot point you alluded to in this video. I did this originally on a McMillan stock remodel I used to shoot 3543 yards ( little bit over 2 miles) with my 300RUM, Remington 700 SS LA blueprinted with a 30" Lothar Walther SS barrel, Wyatts Box, Jewel trigger and Fat Bastard muzzle brake.

@markandsamafterwork 3 жыл бұрын

Cheers Craig, glad you liked, thanks

@magwamagwa45110 3 жыл бұрын

100% agree I like mine about 2.5 above the bore it saves my neck and is much easier to see impacts thanks for sharing great advice...

@markandsamafterwork 3 жыл бұрын

Cheers Man, thanks

@sunejeppesen4318 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for putting this video up. The low mount philosophy is also how most people would answer you here in Denmark. But I see now that it is an old school way of looking at it, and it is almost always hunters that would pass on that particular advice. Thank you for clearing this up. I will go and check all my rifles now - hunting and precision rifles. Always a pleasure to see you shoot with the MDT setup. Having a Tikka T3 in 30-06 mounted in a MDT ESS chassis I feel I can relate. Big thumbs up 👍

@markandsamafterwork 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Sune, glad you liked, Cheers

@conservativesniperhunter7439 3 жыл бұрын

This video like all your videos will help a lot of shooters particularly inexperienced and new shooters to set up their scopes to better fit their physique . Cheers 🍻

@markandsamafterwork 3 жыл бұрын

Hope so, glad you liked, Cheers

@johannesvanhoek9080 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks again for another fine video that Gives us food for thought 👍. I’m personally not pro one way or the other when it comes to scope height , but I will be now 😊

@markandsamafterwork 3 жыл бұрын

Cheers Man, thanks

@CyclopsJoeVideos 3 жыл бұрын

Great Video Mark , thank you so much for the shout out !!

@markandsamafterwork 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks you too Joe, Cheers and all our best.

@regsparkes6507 3 жыл бұрын

Good ideas and tips here,. .thanks Mark!

@markandsamafterwork 3 жыл бұрын

Cheers

@rodbusetti5022 3 жыл бұрын

Very good explanation. Joe sent me your way. Keep up the great information. Thanks

@markandsamafterwork 3 жыл бұрын

Cheers Rod, thanks

@prodigyanesthesia 2 жыл бұрын

You explained this where even I understand it. Strong work.

@markandsamafterwork 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Man, Cheers

@johnmal801 2 жыл бұрын

This is just the video I needed to watch. I'm setting up a rifle up now and the scope is 1/2" above the barrel. I'm going to try this setup. Thank you my friend.

@markandsamafterwork 2 жыл бұрын

Awesome, Cheers

@longsnipz 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for your insight. I have a M1A national match rifle, scope base, rings are 2.5in high. (Caliper measurements half of bore,scope diameter) my other rifles are set up at 2in high. Haven't really thought about where the contact point was on the buttstock until you explained it... You're absolutely right!

@markandsamafterwork 3 жыл бұрын

Cheers Man, thanks

@samhunt9380 2 жыл бұрын

Good video! I started life as a culler in the New Zealand Forest Service in 1963. We only had open sights for all hunting, bush or mountain. We were issued with sporterised .303's then. When I bought my own rifle, a Sako .270, i used it for some time without a scope. My first scope was a Nikko 4x40. The choice of scopes wasn't great back then and they were horrendously expensive in NZ too . I mounted it low because of what you said, a direct hangover from open sights. These days in my 70's I use a Carl Gustaf .270 with a Swarovski scope and the height is closer to what you have shown here, probably because I used the same thoughts you mentioned. Glad I found your channel, subscribed. Cheers mate.....

@markandsamafterwork 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Sam, glad you liked, cheers

@k2svpete Жыл бұрын

That's got to be the best video I've seen explaining positioning your rifle and scope to suit you, the shooter. Just about every other video only looks at eye relief. I'm definitely going to try higher rings, I'm canting my head over to get in the correct position. Just one of those challenges with having a box head.

@markandsamafterwork Жыл бұрын

Lol, thanks Peter, Cheers man

@kaskaderalen 3 жыл бұрын

I set them low for hunting to prevent snagging the scope on something, but i see your point. Like the video's keep up the great work.

@markandsamafterwork 3 жыл бұрын

Cheers

@scooterdogg7580 3 жыл бұрын

had see through mounts for years , even though I never planned on needing iron sights , I found it to be a much more natural eye - scope alignment , plus if you want large objective scopes , you're all set

@markandsamafterwork 3 жыл бұрын

Yep, Cheers

@kanethomas773 Жыл бұрын

Thanks, Mark. I am new to shooting and have had my scopes low . A lot of what you discuss has explained a lot. And i think i need to go higher on my rings . Thanks, mate.

@markandsamafterwork Жыл бұрын

Thanks Kane, Cheers

@matthewtracy8744 3 жыл бұрын

Good info. I was having this conversation just the other day.

@markandsamafterwork 3 жыл бұрын

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@jimlerum 3 жыл бұрын

Great topic and commentary, thanks Mark!

@markandsamafterwork 3 жыл бұрын

Cheers

@rifleman1873 3 жыл бұрын

I appreciate your analytical approach. I have been around a while. and always heard the, “closer to the bore is better” theory. But your explanation quickly negates that line of thought. Thanks!!

@markandsamafterwork 3 жыл бұрын

Cheers Man, thanks

@mikekirchner8229 3 жыл бұрын

Another awesome informative video. I watched the scope leveling video on Joe Cyclop's channel. Every shooter at work knows about both channels. Great 👍 job

@markandsamafterwork 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Mike, glad you liked and yes Joe does great work, cheers

@mikekirchner8229 3 жыл бұрын

@@markandsamafterwork you're welcome

@2clicksup910 3 жыл бұрын

Good vid yet again. Debunking the myth of “lower is better” in plain English without jamming opinions down the viewers’ necks. I have been of a similar opinion on this matter for some time, and I’m slowly (and I do mean SLOWLY) getting my Father, who is 86 and still comes shooting with me, to fall in with this way of thinking. And, yes, the Cyclops is definitely worth a look.

@markandsamafterwork 3 жыл бұрын

Cheers Man, thanks

@jdr285 3 жыл бұрын

Mark, once again IMHO you are spot on. Being relatively new to rifles and long range, I began by following the conventional "mount it low" using Seekings Precision .87 "medium" height rings. (Just high enough for the objective bell to clear the barrel.) In addition to what you mentioned, I found that when getting into the proper eye box position, I was applying a torque to the stock with my cheek which would throw the rifle off of level. Then, I would fight to get it back to level by applying a counter torque. Experimenting this off-season, I have found that raising the scope by switching from medium to high (.97") or extra high (1.26") rings correct the specific torquing issue and result in a much more relaxed shooting position. Once it warms up, I will shoot with both to see which works the best. It will not surprise me to be rifle specific.

@markandsamafterwork 3 жыл бұрын

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@bg3160 3 жыл бұрын

Excellent video. Just ordered two 1 inch risers for my rifle. That should solve some of my alignment problems!!!!!!!!!!!! Nice to blow myths out the back door. I've lived by low rings are better for so long, but this makes complete sense. From way out west in the USA, Good On Ya!

@markandsamafterwork 3 жыл бұрын

Cheers man, thanks

@markhoulding1938 3 жыл бұрын

Totally agree Mark I just buy the right height mounts that suit my head position with moa rails or front Nightvision attachments 👍

@markandsamafterwork 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Mark, Cheers

@Suck-Squeeze-Bang-Blow 3 жыл бұрын

Great...now I need to buy more scope rings. Excellent info.

@markandsamafterwork 3 жыл бұрын

Cheers

@oddursigurdsson3046 3 жыл бұрын

Nice info and discussion, thank you for sharing :)

@markandsamafterwork 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Oddur, Cheers

@ianwoodward1554 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Mark, although I’m waiting at the moment for my Tikka and Swarovski to arrive in Australia. The shop is telling me to mount the scope as low to the barrel as possible. I’ve heard you give this advice before and it just makes more logical sense. I’ll stick to my guns (no pun intended) and have it mounted to my frame and style of shooting. Cheers from Brisvagas

@markandsamafterwork 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Ian, good plan, Cheers

@dennisholle1005 3 жыл бұрын

Thank for the great info. Looks are not everything. I an happy Joe the Cyclops turned me on to you. Joe is a great no BS reviewer with a great sense of humor.

@markandsamafterwork 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Dennis, Cheers

@michaelreed1380 3 жыл бұрын

Mark... half of what we do is looking cool while doing it. Now you're telling me that doesn't count for squat?! Dang. In all seriousness, very interesting points you make. Im going to evaluate my shooting position because what you say (like so much of your other points made) juat makes sense nobody can argue with your results. To be honest, I see some of your video titles and I think to myself well, whatever. Then I watch them and learn something from everyone of them. Keep up the great work you do Mark (and Sam), you guys are phenomenal. Whenever I have i someone interested in this game of LR/ELR shooting, I always send them to your videos. Excellent teaching points and addicting accomplishments to try and reach.

@markandsamafterwork 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Michael, glad you like and even better if they help, Cheers

@Blackhorseveteran 3 жыл бұрын

Good tutorial Mark !

@markandsamafterwork 3 жыл бұрын

Cheers

@radikewl70 3 жыл бұрын

Great info, thanks for posting.

@markandsamafterwork 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Man, Cheers

@jcarne1015 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Mark. I’ll give it a try.

@markandsamafterwork 2 жыл бұрын

Awesome, Cheers

@MattWaller04 Жыл бұрын

Your videos are invaluable to setting up an ELR rifle

@markandsamafterwork Жыл бұрын

Thanks Matt

@SVTBansheeman 3 жыл бұрын

If I just listen to the audio, it's as If Mike Dundee is teaching me. Thank you for all the info. It all makes sense.👍

@tamaustralia4949 3 жыл бұрын

Gday mate It was Mick Not mike, bruva, Get orf the yandi cuz

@markandsamafterwork 3 жыл бұрын

Cheers Man, and lol

@tamaustralia4949 3 жыл бұрын

@@markandsamafterwork lol couldnt resist it mate Love your work And all shooters benefit from your knowledge Thanks and all the best from northern NSW Yous are a stella team 👍🇦🇺

@markandsamafterwork 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Tan, Cheers and all the best.

@SVTBansheeman 3 жыл бұрын

@@markandsamafterwork this is absolutely my favorite channel on the subject of shooting far. What we don't see is the many many hours, trial and error etc to learn this art. I'm just starting. It gives me good guidance and inspiration.

@oldschooljack3479 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Mark, good stuff. My rifle is off the shelf and came with a standard sporter stock... I hate it. It didn't take me long to figure out that sporter stocks are designed to be shot from a standing position... They're OK for being seated at a bench... Horrible for prone. I've got a Boyd's stock on my wish list and hope to see some improvements in function and ergonomics.

@markandsamafterwork 3 жыл бұрын

Cheers Jack, thanks

@kilofoxtrotdelta6112 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you, I just got my rifle out of my gun safe, even with medium scope rings my scope is fine, my scope has a 56mm objective lens, low rings the rim of the scope would have been just a few millimeters above the barrel if not touching it so I'm glad you cleared that up. Just waiting on my MDT XRS chassis system MDT magazine's to arrive so I can finally get my rifle back on the range. My Savage 10 proprietary magazine is hopeless, but I didn't want to waste money on a new magazine so I thought change out the chassis and use MDT or AICS magazines, better for Sniper competition (SRA Finland) and hunting.

@markandsamafterwork 2 жыл бұрын

Sounds great, Cheers

@Freeflying1234 3 жыл бұрын

This makes a lot of sense. I have always strived to get my scope as low as possible, did not really know the reason why. I just heard the usual stuff. Thought it was related to lessening the effects of canting the rifle. I`m now getting a second hand Tikka A1 Tac chassis for my T3 supervarmint .260 rem, and I will set it up with the end of the stock making more contact with shoulder and making my prone position more natural\less cramped style like you suggest. I have only shot a heavy .223 in a heavy MDT Tac21 chassis so much focus on recoil managment has not been so critcal.

@markandsamafterwork 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks man, Cheers

@bernarddefraeye2794 3 жыл бұрын

exelent video , not many tackel this issue. there is also infuence in scope height and kill zone in pest control(.22) with same zero. i simulate this with ballistic software. so without having to dial having larger distance zone with kill zone as result.

@markandsamafterwork 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Bernard, yes can help too, glad you liked, Cheers

@shanegibb997 3 жыл бұрын

Great video Mark , that makes a lot of sense , I have 2 rifles where the scopes are that low that I can't even put the scope covers on and they are a little uncomfortable to shoot , very accurate but uncomfortable.

@markandsamafterwork 3 жыл бұрын

Uncomfortable, never ends up always very accurate.....Cheers

@shanegibb997 3 жыл бұрын

@@markandsamafterwork might go next size up in rings , see how that goes.

@scooterdogg7580 3 жыл бұрын

old fashion see through rings work for me

@DanielBoone337 3 жыл бұрын

When I started hunting/shooting everyone would brag about the fact they could barely slide a dollar bill between the bell on their optic and rifle barrel. From what I remember it was so your rifle would be more accurate or something like that. Great video brother keepem coming...

@markandsamafterwork 3 жыл бұрын

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@pegleg1az 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you again. I broke my neck 38 years ago and never liked my scope or even site & beads low. It just was not comfortable to me and would give me heard neck aches and pinched nerves.. It would just take the fun out of shooting at that point...

@markandsamafterwork 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks again Don, Cheers

@craneyguy Жыл бұрын

Awesome!! Thank you.

@markandsamafterwork Жыл бұрын

Cheers

@commonsense7787 2 жыл бұрын

I thought I had a good grasp on scoped rifles. After watching this I realized I’ve made my choices on looks. I think a high scope looks bad therefore it must be bad. Thank you for the education.

@markandsamafterwork 2 жыл бұрын

Cheers Man, thanks

@brianbumgardner8704 3 жыл бұрын

I've had my scops set 2.5in to 3in for as long as I can remember. It just seems to fit my shooting position the best and typically most of my shots are 100yds or more, many times as far out as 350yds. I shoot a .270win for deer species, prong horn and the dreaded cyote.

@markandsamafterwork 3 жыл бұрын

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@robertthomas3777 Жыл бұрын

As a late in life ‘newby’ to this, I wish I’d known this before buying my guns. The shops basically just sell the guns with some technical advice, noting they are dealing with passion, emotion and desire over logic. Although a complex science, time spent investigating the biomechanics and fit would be superb - curtailing a lot of potential issues and facilitating a better outcome. Great advice based on huge experience and ability. Thanks so much.

@markandsamafterwork Жыл бұрын

Cheers Rob, thanks Man

@anthonygoogs2416 2 ай бұрын

Great Vid!! Thanks ✌️

@markandsamafterwork 2 ай бұрын

Thanks Man

@nimik221 3 жыл бұрын

I found I can spot impacts a lot faster with high rings compared to my other rifles with low rings. I find it a lot more comfortable with high rings and can stay behind the scope for longer periods of time.

@markandsamafterwork 3 жыл бұрын

Yep, Cheers

@VaMike9 2 жыл бұрын

Good video!

@markandsamafterwork 2 жыл бұрын

Cheers

@troytownsend1730 2 жыл бұрын

A young man working in a sports store, and I were about to go rounds over high or low scope height, when he suddenly asked me if I watched Mark and Sam, immediately, I knew I was the one in the wrong and was going to have to see this video, Thanks.

@markandsamafterwork 2 жыл бұрын

Lol, thanks Troy, Cheers man, all our best.

@hokehinson5987 8 ай бұрын

Great video. Can placement of the coventional buttstock in the bench rest position be achieved as you've shown in the standing postion.. the magpul stocks with the adjustable cheek rest work at bench rest. Some of my CZ have the euro stocks with more combined drop than the stock in video. I like how you have ruptured the myth of always needing low rings. Around here it's difficult to find low rings medium or high seem to be stocked abundantly. As a child in the 1950s folks would used the add on leather cheek pieces usually laced in place. Those don't seem to be offered much anymore. As a kid 9 outa 10 hunting rifles had those add on leather cheek pieces. Good video mate! 🤔

@markandsamafterwork 8 ай бұрын

Cheers Man

@onlyfinehelis3793 3 жыл бұрын

I generally prefer a higher scope mount as well. The one potential negative that you need to be aware of is that the higher your scope, the more important you leveling the rifle will be - especially at longer ranges. A higher scope that is canted on a rifle will give a greater horizontal impact on the target if not properly leveled. Just something to keep in mind.

@markandsamafterwork 3 жыл бұрын

Well not really, another of those things folks are taught, but reality is, it is very, very important to level rifle for long ranges, but not influenced by how high the scope, but glad you liked, Cheers

@MichaelBrown-um8qc Жыл бұрын

Thank You 😊🥂👍

@markandsamafterwork Жыл бұрын

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@tyler6147 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for this. Seriously so many people are trapped into the idea that one way is "right" and cannot be challenged. I'm not as eloquent about it as you but I have a 10/22 with a very high scope on it. It's so much more comfortable and so far I'm regularly hitting a 6 inch plate at 325 yards. That said there ain't no way around physics. On bigger calibers how you are positioned to take the recoil matters. Great video.

@markandsamafterwork 3 жыл бұрын

Cheers Tyler, thanks

@NittyGritty420 Жыл бұрын

The scope on my 10/22 is as low as I could get it. Honestly I did it for aesthetic reasons and I’m used to it now so it’s not an issue for me. I might get some taller rings just to see if my accuracy changes.

@p47rr 2 жыл бұрын

Have a old model Sabatti rifle. They updated their bolt to throw the brass out to the side. Need to keep the scope up enough on my older model so that the brass doesn’t bounce off the turret. Some times bouncing right back into the action. Had the same problem with a Remington 788 bolt action.

@markandsamafterwork 2 жыл бұрын

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@patrickkelly9721 Жыл бұрын

Most efficient is a tool that fits me and my task. If I have to contort to use the tool, I need a different tool (or different height rings)

@markandsamafterwork Жыл бұрын

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@donbeyer432 2 жыл бұрын

That saved me 200 dollars! thanks

@markandsamafterwork 2 жыл бұрын

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@kenandrieling5885 Жыл бұрын

I used to have a 22 with open rings so you could use the iron sights if needed at close range. That would be the only reason I would mount the scope any higher than you have to.

@markandsamafterwork Жыл бұрын

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@walterluiz4694 3 жыл бұрын

Very very good

@markandsamafterwork 3 жыл бұрын

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@thomaschase1719 3 жыл бұрын

Sounds like a axe sharpening dilemma and I like my double bit axe beveled on just one side, the same one both edges in order that it chips away right or left with a quick twist and as sharp as possible because it’s not for splitting firewood.

@markandsamafterwork 3 жыл бұрын

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@HebrewHammerArmsCo 3 жыл бұрын

Great video..... I just scratch my head as to why someone would thumb this down...

@markandsamafterwork 3 жыл бұрын

Lol, Cheers Adam, thanks

@michaelkuner7831 2 жыл бұрын

Fat fingers.

@kraftzion 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@markandsamafterwork 2 жыл бұрын

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@WalterWhite-gw3vm 3 жыл бұрын

Mark my buddies love to make fun of how I always use like a chin and jaw weld on my rifles instead of the cheek weld but I've been so used to shooting Ak's with optics that I find it to be a more comfortable feel shooting precision rifles that I'm not bending my head down to look through the glass.👍

@markandsamafterwork 3 жыл бұрын

Yep, you just might be able to teach them something, lol, Cheers

@satched 2 жыл бұрын

Hi Mark another great video. Just a quick question about scope height, low vs high. Does it have any effect on internal adjustment? Or is that only effected by the base angle?

@markandsamafterwork 2 жыл бұрын

No, Cheers

@scottkessler186 3 жыл бұрын

Comfortable is common sense. I run a BLR Tracker in .308 with 18.5 in barrel set up for a standing rest shot i.e hunting and taking a shot with a natural rest like a tree branch or free standing and my chin not my cheek rests on the stock. I have to resist the temptation to move the scope when shooting from the bench whilst trying new ammo because it will mess up my hunting setup. My eye relief is different whilst seated. Maybe because i think too much about the shot and move around too much. But practising shouldering the rifle has allowed me to find the most comfortable and therefore accurate position for my scope. And yeah i do get comments from other shooters at the range of how high my scope is mounted. But when i am on walk a fast acquisition and shot is paramount.

@markandsamafterwork 3 жыл бұрын

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@dalanwanbdiska6542 3 жыл бұрын

Im adding a 11 to 20mm base on my dovetail rail on my 303 british. Then low weaver 1inch rings and bushnell xlt 3x9 scope. Ill be xeroing the scope at 200 yards.

@markandsamafterwork 3 жыл бұрын

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@dennisdekker5201 3 жыл бұрын

I understand when you talk about a standard muzzle break only works to reduce recoil. Would it be an idea to make the ports that are to the sides and angled backwards, to make those ports in a compound angle where they are not only angled backwards but also slightly 10° or so upwards. This should give a slight downwards force.

@markandsamafterwork 3 жыл бұрын

Bad idea, we have videos to explain, cheers

@richardfrost7575 2 жыл бұрын

My general thoughts in my 60 years of life, have always leaned towards your thoughts and explanations for this subject, however; I have rarely voiced my opinion. when high master shooters say it needs to be this way, who am I to argue. I have had injuries to my neck when I was younger that make it difficult if not impossible to use low profile anything, including a bipod. The only negative I have found with higher mounting, is for shots farther than 600yds I really need a level to reference. My natural ability to sense straight up and down ( plumb) isn't what it used to be. I can still for the most part at 600yds stay well within the 3/4 moa of the rifles ability and call pretty much everything outside that. The only trouble with that is, only trigger time will get the bad shots back in line. Just because you can call your shots doesn't mean you can shoot worth a darn ( without trigger time). If I could make all the shots I can see in pool, I would be a pool shark . Thank you for all your helpful advice and videos.

@markandsamafterwork 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Richard, glad you liked, Cheers

@duggydo 3 жыл бұрын

I’ve noticed that your setups have very consistent recoil and go straight back whether large or small caliber.

@markandsamafterwork 3 жыл бұрын

Yep, reasons for that, lol, Cheers

@rainbow2710 3 жыл бұрын

When setting a scope on my rifle - the first thing I look for is that it's comfortable, and in a position that I can be consistent. I never really bothered about height except on my air rifles which I shoot 50m or less. Someone challenged me on scope height - he told me that it will limit my vertical adjustment if set too high. I do not think he is right, as it's the ANGLE of the scope viz the rifle that affects the vertical adjustments. Do you think so?

@markandsamafterwork 3 жыл бұрын

All explained in the video, but not an issue, Cheers

@laserdude3064 3 жыл бұрын

Do you think scope height has any correlation to mirage? I usually mount my scopes on the high side and have never really felt hindered by mirage. I went with talley lows on my new 300wm and notice mirage now after 2 or 3 shots. It has me thinking about tossing a set of highs on there. My scope sits about a quarter inch off of my barrel with the lows. The temperature has also been in the 20s (F) when I've been out with it.

@markandsamafterwork 3 жыл бұрын

No it has nothing to do with mirage at range, Cheers

@freddyw4555 3 ай бұрын

My scopes are 2.5” above the bore. My head is pretty much straight up Is comfortable and quick acquisition. Muzzle breaks are too loud

@markandsamafterwork 3 ай бұрын

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@PripyatPlayground 3 жыл бұрын

How to prevent being punched in the eye from the scope when shooting 300 win mag? Find a scope with more eye relief?

@markandsamafterwork 3 жыл бұрын

Set up your rifle and scope correctly, Cheers

@adubeauify 2 жыл бұрын

So you don't need to have your cheek box resting on the comb? That explains why I am so uncomfortable behind the scope.

@markandsamafterwork 2 жыл бұрын

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@bg3160 3 жыл бұрын

I am new to the channel, so if this question is answered in another video, please direct me there. In one video I believe you mentioned 21 MOA drop. How do you achieve that inside the scope (not sure of the term I should use here). Does your scope have 21 MOA adjustment or do you lift (shim) the rear scope mount, or use adjustable rings or use another technique? I mostly shoot air rifle and just purchased a new air rifle with 20 MOA built into the scope rail, and have older models with adjustable rings. Just wondering about other techniques that work.

@markandsamafterwork 3 жыл бұрын

We have several videos on how to set up a scope, and how to mount a scope, search the channel to find them, if you want more help, we have our 4AW club memberships, Cheers

@bg3160 3 жыл бұрын

@@markandsamafterwork Found the video on scope setup. I see you use a combination of tactics to meet your needs. I have much to learn. . . . . . .

@markandsamafterwork 3 жыл бұрын

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@chrislang5659 3 жыл бұрын

I was worried about taking a shot tonight at close range with a m4 with a carry handle and 4 power scope because hieght over bore. Zero is 50 shot at 10 do you have any suggestions?

@markandsamafterwork 3 жыл бұрын

As always, learn your rifle, lol, Cheers

@johnandrosemarywyatt977 2 жыл бұрын

There would be a lot more good shooters out there if they would watch this. There's too much "voodoo" out there. Excellent, excellent presentation.

@markandsamafterwork 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks John, cheers

@charlesbullee7215 2 жыл бұрын

What about if the rifle gets tipped one way or another with a tall scope mount would that factor in to accuracy?

@markandsamafterwork 2 жыл бұрын

Matters for low and high scopes, no difference, Cheers

@thomasbroussard2316 Жыл бұрын

How high over the center of the bore is your scope set on your long range rifles?

@markandsamafterwork Жыл бұрын

I don't use a measurement, normally a tall ring/base option, but always set up as explained in the video, Cheers

@cheekyrick9529 3 жыл бұрын

ive read arguments in favor of low mounting a scope, im almost certain a lot of these people fail to understand the trajectory of the projectile or the geometric relationship between the scope and bore.

@markandsamafterwork 3 жыл бұрын

All explained, lol, Cheers

@Blackhorseveteran 3 жыл бұрын

Funny...never had to worry about that shooting a 105mm from the gunners seat of an M60-A3 tank... LOL.

@markandsamafterwork 3 жыл бұрын

Lol, Cheers

@rx323bug 3 жыл бұрын

Do you bed you scope bases? What have you found in that regard? I see chat from folks that bed them, do nothing or even glue them in place.

@markandsamafterwork 3 жыл бұрын

As said, there is a full video on what we recommend, but usually use a little loctite, Cheers,

@rx323bug 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks I must have missed that, you have such a large and ever growing catalogue of knowledge. Keep it up!

@markandsamafterwork 3 жыл бұрын

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@DeeMoback 3 жыл бұрын

Yup

@markandsamafterwork 3 жыл бұрын

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@aynjeleyes 3 жыл бұрын

When people say it has to low the lower the better to be accurate and with high power. I quickly point out that the snipers in ww2 didnt have problems especially the Fins, Russians, Germans with 3x 4x scopes no real set scope power and extremely deadly.

@markandsamafterwork 3 жыл бұрын

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