Scraping Basics with Lance Baltzley

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4 жыл бұрын

This video I visit with Lance Baltzley as he goes over some of the basic tools and principals of hand and power scraping, a method used for precision machinery rebuilding.
Richard King of King-Way Scraping Consultants will be putting on a 40 hour scraping class January 15-19, 2020 located in Santa Rosa Florida. To sign up for one of his classes send Richard an email to richard@handscraping.com or visit his website for more info handscraping.com
Richard will also be hosting other classes next year as well. Texas in February, California and New York in May. If you're interested please contact him to sign up.
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@richardking8140 4 жыл бұрын

Looks good !! I love to see my students TEACH....I ask my students to teach to pass on the lost art that my Dad taught me and the German Journeyman taught him. Generations of knowledge passed down. Rich

@Abom79 4 жыл бұрын

Richard King Great to see you here Richard! We’re trying to share what we’ve been learning. Hope you enjoyed and always looking for good ideas on good useful info to share on video.

@thomasutley 4 жыл бұрын

Richard, when are we going to see the official King-Way machine tool rebuilding KZfaq series?

@rickpalechuk4411 4 жыл бұрын

This "IS" what we nerd out to. Cheers

@Whipple1 4 жыл бұрын

Rick Palechuk . Never looked at it that way, but he nailed it with that line.... Cheers! Whipple

@MCClownsnose 4 жыл бұрын

Tank you guys. I could watch and listen all day about mashining and welding. It‘s soothing me like watching an aquarium.

@rodneywroten2994 4 жыл бұрын

Mr. Baltzley. I never known that scraping was a thing until I subscribed to Adams channel. My hat is off to you with such beautiful work. As you said one factor to leave oil passage and other uses. Thanks Adam for sharing

@ThunderDog 4 жыл бұрын

Awesome!! I agree, it's not hard to get started with minimal tools. My first scraping project was the same as Lance's. Scraping two surfaces parallel for the first time is such an awesome feeling of accomplishment.

@kris4362 4 жыл бұрын

Adam excellent, thank you Lance for sharing this. I'm firm believer that knowledge is wasted unless shared. Again thank you

@ROBRENZ 4 жыл бұрын

Enjoyed Lance and Adam! ATB, Robin

@Abom79 4 жыл бұрын

ROBRENZ Thanks Robin!

@lancebaltzley4770 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you Robin, always appreciate your help, mentorship and opinions. Your positive comments mean a lot!

@simonscott1121 Жыл бұрын

I love Lance's attitude - he's always so reserved with what he does and doesnt know. Smart guys are always unsure, dumb guys are always certain.

@SteveSummers 4 жыл бұрын

Great video Adam & Lance👍. I definitely enjoyed it.

@Abom79 4 жыл бұрын

Steve Summers Thanks Steve!

@lancebaltzley4770 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you Steve, keep up the great content.... I watch every video you make!

@douglastedder1694 4 жыл бұрын

i would enjoy more on scraping. its one of those things i really want to do but just cant seem to get around to it. having more videos of the basics like this helps wear down my excuses...

@BruceBoschek 4 жыл бұрын

Any man who drinks San Pellegrino in his shop is my kind of man. It's the water of the discerning toolmaker!

@ericmiller5559 4 жыл бұрын

Great collaboration video guys. Thanks for sharing your knowledge and experience. You guys have inspired myself and many others.

@tomim7187 4 жыл бұрын

over 40,000 views! How'd have thought that a scraping video would get so much attention. You and KZfaq may help save traditional machining methods from disappearing forever! Love the content, keep it going.

@fergusonhr 4 жыл бұрын

I worked at a machine shop as a kid (20) and I scraped the 16 inch diameter cylinders that held ywo huge grinding wheels for parallel grinding I believe...I used brown and black crayon looking markers and moved the cylinders in there bore (quite a big process) then took it back apart and scraped the color that rubbed from one to the other until the match was was like a checker board ( more or less )...fun slow process...

@torniaccio 4 жыл бұрын

Adam, this is the kind of video I prefer: those where I learn something. That's why I enjoy your channel!

@richardknight1841 4 жыл бұрын

Great job,Thanks. It's amazing to me that the accuracy we find in machinery can trace its roots to something done by hand.

@iamnickyj 4 жыл бұрын

Damnit lance I’m so interested in scraping and learning how, it’s about time we get to see more of your work. Love the both of you. Thank you guys for collaborating on this video, great stuff. Nick from Pittsburgh.

@roncartwright8125 4 жыл бұрын

A most interesting & informative video. Thank-you Adam & Lance for your time & effort, you turned up the light of knowledge with this one.

@crazyfeller5704 4 жыл бұрын

Please, more videos on this topic. Very informative.

@shanecateriny4359 4 жыл бұрын

Just when I though I knew it all.....a whole new wold of discovery. I love these guys. Dedicated to achieving perfection.

@tmbevtfd 4 жыл бұрын

A Vet that works metal, wish I was closer to Gainesville, I’d bring my dog in for a checkup and talk machining.

@danielepatane3841 4 жыл бұрын

a very helping video for beginners like me. Thanks for sharing. Abom79 has always interesting contents in his channel!

@movax20h 4 жыл бұрын

Nerds. I don't even own a piece of machinery or probably will ever do any scraping. Still great to watch.

@stevoreno45 4 жыл бұрын

Holy Cow Lance you got a lotta cool toys!

@MadDawg91108 4 жыл бұрын

Great video Adam and Lance....would love to see more.

@AJsWargaming 4 жыл бұрын

Love it - more please.

@larrymunday7519 4 жыл бұрын

As a homeshop machinest with a 1950 model lathe i am happy to stay within .001 to .0005 thousandths of an inch! I will probably never get that serious. Great video Abom. I do work with machinery that is scraped, and the oiling of the the ways are the most important part.

@_bodgie 4 жыл бұрын

Fascinating video, I'd be happy to see more.

@mattpeterson7074 4 жыл бұрын

Another process I'd never even heard of. Learning so much watching your channel, Adam. Even as someone who's not doing any machining at all, it's truly fascinating to learn about these processes. Keep up the great content!

@mhbh1979 4 жыл бұрын

Really interesting, it's great you guys are getting this almost lost art out there. Flat and square things really are quite rare.

@r.j.sworkshop7883 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks to you both for putting together a great start up video. Specifics on scraping would be nice, but more examples of ways to measure and correct and plan for correcting geometry would be excellent. As you mentioned Keith has many scraping videos, but showing examples of correcting alignment or showing how to measure for alignment would be of great help. I have a good grasp of alignment basics, but seeing other peoples methods really helps to expand your horizons. I was so impressed with the idea of using the magnetic cylinder square to show square on the box. I just have never had one at my disposal, so I had never thought about it. Great work, thanks again. R.J.

@andresmedina9967 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for making this video. Look to maby doing this!! To fix old machine's

@ruperthartop7202 4 жыл бұрын

Great video. Thanks for sharing. Look forward to more scraping videos

@jonathanromine4576 4 жыл бұрын

Hey Adam love the video I'm a new subscriber. I have 17 years rebuilding machine tools. I was more field service but know all about scraping. It's great seeing someone putting videos out there on it. I own my own business now out of Houston and would love to chat with you privately. My passion is repairing and bringing old Machinery back to life.

@Marzy5821 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks Lance for sharing your knowledge on this . . .

@AJR2208 4 жыл бұрын

Hi Adam and Lance - Thank you both for this video. More videos on these topics would be great! Please :)

@DudleyToolwright 4 жыл бұрын

It sure is great to see another video with Lance. I love his work. He really is clear with his explanations. I have a pair of his precision ground stones and use them all the time. They are one of my favorite support tools.

@Audio_Simon 9 ай бұрын

I'm in Nagoya Japan and today I will attend a scraping class at the Mazak museum. I remembered this video so wanted to watch it to get a head-start!

@padraicmcguire108 4 жыл бұрын

I love the references to the Moore book, "Foundations of Mechanical Accuracy" My well read copy is 40 years old! I'm a retired Precision Engineer, originally working at Professional Instruments here in MN. I spent the majority of my career at 3M working in optics mastering and metrology.. Lance's ref to high ppi project is well considered. I had a very large SIP jig grinder built for special purpose several years ago. The ways were scraped to >60ppi to achieve a surface finish, not just machine longevity. The Swiss Craftsman that built this machine were amazing. Precision grinding and air bearing slides are steadily killing the use of precision scrapeing, but it is a skill that is critical to preserve. You might find a visit to Prof Instruments to be equally fascinating. Drop me a note if you'd like to set this up.

@ManuelAgrispraying 2 жыл бұрын

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@zvonibab 4 жыл бұрын

Just what doctor has ordered Cheers you two from West Australia!

@jamesbrewer3020 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you, enjoyed very much.

@rodneykiemele4721 4 жыл бұрын

Would love to see more, maybe a series? Would really love that !

@matthewtaylor9066 2 жыл бұрын

I was an apprentice in the Victorian railways 35 years ago we spent the first year learning how to file and scrape. I love these videos just wish there were more of them

@thomasutley 4 жыл бұрын

Great video, guys! I was there at Keith’s shop with you both in 2017, and I still learned things from this video session-I hope you’ll do more. Thanks for reigniting the scraping bug in me again!

@lancebaltzley4770 4 жыл бұрын

Tom with your scraping skills it's a shame that you don't have a KZfaq channel showing that amazing South Bend restoration... Everyone look him up on Instagram as KingTutley.....

@xdrfan 4 жыл бұрын

Nice job guys, I would like to see more details especially about measuring and blueing dovetails etc

@Abom79 4 жыл бұрын

Barry Daly We’ve discussed making more videos that are more subject specific on the topic, such as “how to Blue a part” as an example.

@zedo5851 4 жыл бұрын

Flaking techniques would be a nice topic to cover. Cheers Zed

@michaelprah2263 2 жыл бұрын

Very interesting, thanks for the introduction. I always had an interest in machine Scraping.

@jerrycoleman2610 4 жыл бұрын

Lance & Adam, Great & informative video thanks for sharing.!.!.!.

@classicamericangunsmith2131 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the video. As far as scraping goes, what I would find most helpful would be.to see a.small job.from start to finish. This would include all of the measurements and the decisions made from those measurements. This would be extremely helpful to those scraping at home. Thank you again for the info.

@Abom79 4 жыл бұрын

Classic American Gunsmith Yep, we’ll be working more towards videos like this for my video library. 👍🏻

@wfrandy 4 жыл бұрын

I have a Biax power flaker, which works really nice. My mentor, who was a machine tool rebuilder for over 60 years, would always say that I was cheating when I used it, but he would borrow it from me whenever he had a big job to do. Interesting to me how their are actually many techniques used to do scraping, but they all accomplish the same results. Great job guys.

@ianrobertson8313 4 жыл бұрын

This is a great video, thank you

@Marzy5821 4 жыл бұрын

Good one Adam!

@bclare2544 4 жыл бұрын

Very interesting Adam and Lance.

@rtaylor616 4 жыл бұрын

I would like to see more.

@spnynorman5519 4 жыл бұрын

I just came across this one ( I'm way behind on videos ). Great to see Lance again and talking scraping. I took the November, 2017 class at Keith Rucker's place and Lance helped me a lot. Since then I've been tooling up, even landing a Biax off of eBay. Now, if I could get more time ... Regards, Jeff from IL

@bcbloc02 4 жыл бұрын

I can scrape ok using the stiffer scrapers. I actually prefer how they feel. Cool seeing some of Lance's scraping aids as well as metrology tools for qualifying the work done. I have a lot of scraping to do if I ever get around to it.

@eddietowers5595 4 жыл бұрын

Jesus gripes, Abom is looking good, when he turns sideways he disappears.way to go 👍

@davidmiller5832 4 жыл бұрын

He's turning into Agrenade

@iamnickyj 4 жыл бұрын

Adam is looking great. Keep it up Abom!

@zabnat 4 жыл бұрын

Will look even better when he starts using a proper sized t-shirt. ;)

@Abom79 4 жыл бұрын

eddie Towers Thanks! 😁

@eddietowers5595 4 жыл бұрын

@@Abom79 Credit where it's due my friend. I weighed 296 at 5'9", My wife weighed 280 at 5'4" just 2 months ago...now we're both down to 260! and still going. Though, I didn't start my weight loss from your weight loss, it's a motivating factor every SNS episode. every intro, I have to rewind to see your intro because you outstandingly different, each time. I showed my wife and she said..."WOW, that's a man with with a plan", then I gave her a napkin to dry out her drool and turned the video off on her...LOL. But ya know what's cool? You have video of of your progressive weight loss, and i say this with all seriousness after seeing your results. Were your parents Super heroes? LOL.

@frankljs 4 жыл бұрын

I just bought 2 biax with a bunch of blades and some straight edges. Don’t even have hand scrapers. Im gonna jump into an angle plate scrape. Thanks for the encouragement!

@chaschan60 Жыл бұрын

Passions very inspiring video So much to learn. Thanks

@johnwilson3668 4 жыл бұрын

To learn to scrape .the best way is to use the Whitworth three plates method . When I started my apprenticeship in 1965 in the firms apprentice training workshop ,we were issued with three 6 inch square x 1 inch thick cast iron blocks . The blocks had to be scraped testing one block to another in a complicated procedure until all the blocks were perfectly flat without using a surface plate anywhere in the procedure .One of the blocks was submitted to the instructor to see if you had achieved perfect flatness .If people are interested in having a go at this , enter Whitworth three plates method on Google and full instructions can be found (engineering blue is needed to test the plates)

@elchuco00 4 жыл бұрын

Great video guys!!!!

@stumccabe 4 жыл бұрын

Very interesting - thanks Keith and Lance.

@Abom79 4 жыл бұрын

Adam and Lance 👍🏻

@xdrfan 4 жыл бұрын

Lol 😂

@Bobbywolf64 4 жыл бұрын

@@Abom79 I think that may have been an intentional error there adam lol. Keiths channel is all about scraping with his latest project.

@Pappaoh 4 жыл бұрын

Excellent vid Adam! I've heard Lance's name but wasn't familiar with his work. There's so much smoke and talk around scraping, as if there is a right way or a wrong way to do it, but in my very limited experience, it's more about whether you're getting the results you want and whether those results could be happening a little bit faster or not. Keep up the great content. I especially like the hand work vids (scraping, filing, and lapping) because most anyone could spend some time, attention, and tenacity and produce something truly extraordinary with very little.

@theflyingchillipepper 4 жыл бұрын

Cool video - scraping really interests me, even all the way over the pond in the UK. great work guys.

@2002ScrewDriver 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you, tonns of tips and tricks.

@googacct 4 жыл бұрын

Thinking a bit far out, but I could see these skills becoming very important when we get to a point where we are colonizing the moon or Mars. It would be impractical and expensive to haul a mill or lathe to remote locations like this. However once a little basic metal refining gets established, one of the first things that will be required are flat surfaces for building machine tools on site.

@outsidescrewball 4 жыл бұрын

enjoyed....honestly I would watch my two friends even if you were talking about why the sky is blue....great info and super collection

@lancebaltzley4770 4 жыл бұрын

Love ya Chuck! Thanks buddy!

@DoctyrEvil 4 жыл бұрын

Cool toys and reloading equipment in the background?! This is clearly the coolest shop ever!

@Laz_Arus 4 жыл бұрын

I spied a Creality CR-10 printer in the second workshop area. Shouldn't need much scraping on the finished prints if the slicer profiles are set up right 😁

@nevetslleksah 3 жыл бұрын

Great video, would like to see more. Love all the tools and straightedges you have. I took the March 2020 Richard King scraping class in Detroit but haven’t done any scraping since. I think this video might give me the incentive to get off my rear end and get back into it.

@alangilman6821 4 жыл бұрын

Great video!!!.. I'm hoping you guys do more videos on this and other subjects as you seem to work well together. The down side is between you and Keith you're probably going to drive the price of those fancy Biax scrapers up! lol

@Abom79 4 жыл бұрын

Alan Gilman That’s already happened! 😂

@Steve_Just_Steve 4 жыл бұрын

Sure would love to see a more advanced scraping video from you guys. That's what there is very info on. IE. Alignment/Geometry. Thanks

@Abom79 4 жыл бұрын

Steve just Steve thanks. We’re discussing more individual videos.

@Rprecision 4 жыл бұрын

I would love to see more of this content

@georgelareese1086 4 жыл бұрын

Just love this

@rustbeltmachine Жыл бұрын

Lance, Adam, that was a very helpful video for someone just getting into this (me). I’m not gonna be buying a Biax just yet but I am gonna get some practice with the scraper I’m building as I watch this. Thanks!

@TheGasTap 4 жыл бұрын

very informative. Thanks

@jameswalker8338 4 жыл бұрын

Watched this a few times now. Picking up more comments, getting more enthused to try this. There was mention of plans for the custom built scraper and making them available. Are you chaps planning to do that? Heck even a photo of a whiteboard sketch would be great. Remember to suggest materials if stock standard “mild steel” is not the best/recommended option. Cheers, James (NZ)

@apachesmokemachining6487 4 жыл бұрын

That was a very informative video I’ll have to try my hands on some scraping to

@carneeki 4 жыл бұрын

Fantastic video! Would love to see what advice you have for bluing and yellow highlighting. Maybe a bit about the stoning of burrs too. Thanks for sharing!

@jamesmorris3175 4 жыл бұрын

I’d be scared to sneeze in that shop for fear of throwing something out. Great knowledge to share.

@AntonioClaudioMichael 4 жыл бұрын

Good video abom79

@joffrebenavides8215 Жыл бұрын

Thanks a lot fot you Theach! , you are a big Master.

@Ham68229 4 жыл бұрын

This is very interesting, would like to see more about the "flaking" technique. You mentioned about resurfacing the granite top, that would be really interesting to see. Great video with lots of great info. Cheers :)

@erik.... 4 жыл бұрын

Cool, I was just looking to buy a scraper earlier today.

@weijingburr2392 4 жыл бұрын

You are Bob Ross of machining.

@roysmith3198 4 жыл бұрын

Got my BOOTH MACHINE SHOP shirt yesterday :)

@Abom79 4 жыл бұрын

Roy Smith awesome! Hope you enjoy, thanks

@nyuuparadise1183 4 жыл бұрын

Ty guys

@harunhodzic1 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks

@georgelareese1086 4 жыл бұрын

Like the 1st day of machine shop class with the hand file.

@DavoShed 4 жыл бұрын

Would love to see some blueing I have an old Atlas lathe that could really use some work. I don’t need anything fancy just enough info to get it back to home shop standard. I can’t part off at the moment as it just picks the tool post up and digs in. Great video guys.

@brianconway5747 4 жыл бұрын

Nice one

@10223220 4 жыл бұрын

Machine nerds unite👍

@matabele 4 жыл бұрын

Great video! I'd love to see the process behind scraping in the ways on a milling machine for example. The process behind mirroring both ways, how to adjust to achieve parallelism or perpendicularity etc

@MawoDuffer 2 жыл бұрын

So that’s what that ball is for on a surface gage. Wow. Good tip, I thought it was just decoration for the longest time.

@Jimmeh_B 4 жыл бұрын

I'm very interested in this. I own 3x Amco 3850 lathes, 2x Procut VBG and 3x old VBG red lathes. All of them have ware in the dovetails to varying degrees which is becoming a problem. I've been tempted to try scraping them, but haven't been brave enough to attempt it yet. If this becomes a series, I'd be very interested in following along.

@Randallvgc 4 жыл бұрын

Great stuff! It would be great if you could do a video on an easy way to measure the wear on lathe ways. I have a 10ee that cuts great. I’m just curious to know how much wear it has.

@turningpoint6643 4 жыл бұрын

Yes it would be time consuming, but Lance has more than enough knowledge and interesting past and likely future projects he really should be starting his own YT channel. Going by the comments below some have no interest or have seen enough YT scraping videos to suit there own interest level. Understandable for some, and I'd guess many are a lot more interested. I'd like to think I know just enough about scraping to have some idea of just how little I do know. I'd watch anything Lance is willing to share.

@lancebaltzley4770 4 жыл бұрын

Turning Point can't thank you enough for your kind words... for now you will see me on other folks channels. The amount of time to get content and edit it is beyond what I have available. I love doing projects with Adam and Keith as I'm invited.

@BigDawgTheGreat 4 жыл бұрын

He also shoots and reloads as evidenced by the shelf over your left shoulder!

@Nullpersona 4 жыл бұрын

Some really great information here, especially about how scraping provides a pocketed fluid interface with a lower coefficient of friction for shaper and other machine ways. The audio was a bit uneven. The pacing and dialogue was slow, making most of the video better at 2x speed. Thanks for explaining beginning technique and general usefulness.

@edwardcook9957 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you for doing this. I would like to start scraping on a small scale. Could you show us how to make a hand scraper so I could get started on small things like the small angle plate you showed and the small right angle plates.

@El3phantSho3 4 жыл бұрын

31:50 for the actual scraping

@dipi71 4 жыл бұрын

Yeah, I really missed the preparation of color pastes, bluing, counting spots per area etc. In my opinion, these checking parts between the scrapings are the most fun parts because you see what you’ve achieved. So, for a 1-hour video about scraping, this was a bit dissapointing for me. Hoping for a follow-up video. Cheers!

@Abom79 4 жыл бұрын

Forget the lecture right