Scratched Mirror Myers is Terrible

Scratched Mirror Myers is Terrible - Dead by Daylight

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Scott Jund

24 күн бұрын

play safe and he literally cant do anything
/ scottjund

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@AlsoMeowskivich 23 күн бұрын

you don't play scratch mirror to win you play scratch mirror to have fun

@FuddlyDud 23 күн бұрын

And that’s the real win! ;)

@kratoscallofduty 23 күн бұрын

1,000,000%

@SomeFrenchDude 23 күн бұрын

Play DBD and have fun? Are you crazy?

@Ashy_Slashy3 22 күн бұрын

I see you almost in every DBD comment section xD it's awesome 👍

@AlsoMeowskivich 22 күн бұрын

@@SomeFrenchDude a little, but that's why I take medicine

@The_Scryer 23 күн бұрын

*Stanley Parable Narrator Voice* Scott went on to find out it was indeed not a good omen, and simply good luck running it's course in one match.

@GenericUser860 23 күн бұрын

You ran that Myers around one tiny ass circle for around 154 seconds. Two and a half minutes around some crates and a pallet.

@Aquilenne 23 күн бұрын

Why BHVR feels like every killer needs to have anti-loop these days.

@CoOlKyUbI96 23 күн бұрын

That pretty much confirmed to me that Myers was inexperienced. He should have just left the chase

@ScottJund 23 күн бұрын

@@CoOlKyUbI96how could he leave I had a gen at like 80% and it was the last one

@AntiHank104 23 күн бұрын

@@ScottJundSkill issue

@antoninbertin-denis9545 23 күн бұрын

@@Aquilenne because having the same future for 8 years isn't engaging anymore, you need to change things or this will just lead to boredom...

@Renvy 23 күн бұрын

one time i played against a scratched mirror myers on the silent hill map, i got into a room with only 2 exits one close to another and the guy waited for 5 whole gens behind the wall to get a hit on me, i could hear his breathing through the wall

@DeadHardTV 23 күн бұрын

Stelfth

@t-bonepatrick1888 23 күн бұрын

this is real horror character dedication, thats the only scratched mirror player i respect

@rodrigoaugusto2912 23 күн бұрын

It's about sending a message

@Renvy 23 күн бұрын

@@t-bonepatrick1888 yeah, the endgame started and i was like no way he still here right? but i waited till like 25% of the bar, i tried to leave the room and he was still there. I died but wasn't even mad, if he had this much dedication to kill me i guess he deserved it

@TVHammond 22 күн бұрын

hearing labored breathing behind the wall waiting for you is hilarious

@vinnie4609 23 күн бұрын

1 You don't chase as mirror myers you go for ambushes 2 Play with your food is a must And this guy didn't even brought a suitable map offering so he obviously didn't know what he was signing up for

@dsargus3 23 күн бұрын

I love SMM, but i hate play with your food. I'd much rather play with Devour+Undying. It's very snowbally. Once everyone is exposed ambushes are so much more scary.

@javondrake3660 23 күн бұрын

Well he got Hawkins so it’s the best for scratch mirror or lerys

@Technature7567 22 күн бұрын

@@javondrake3660 *seeing The Game offered four times* Myers: Bitches don't know what they just signed up for.

@genuine_john 22 күн бұрын

Rapid brutality and batteries included are good too

@viralshark 21 күн бұрын

PWYF is kinda bad for SMM, its better suited for perma tier 3 build when i do SMM i go with corrupt, deadlock, no way out, and NOED

@WaitWhatWho 23 күн бұрын

There's 2 types of SM Myers players, the ones who legitimately try to play it on indoor maps to get easy downs against weaker players and win by camping, and the ones who only play to jumpscare ttvs on Midwich and doesn't care at all about winning

@jilujoilujiut2165 23 күн бұрын

Yea honestly anytime i play a scratched mirror they usually burn lerys and camp whoever they down , for free downs or hits . I dont think its fun to play against but thats solo q

@BrightWulph 22 күн бұрын

I wish I came across the jumpscare for funnies more than the jumpscare to be a dick Myers. I just seem to have super badluck about it.

@BrightWulph 22 күн бұрын

@@jilujoilujiut2165 It's like those Ghostfaces who go "fishing", hook a survivor then shroud and crouch near hook for "trades/downs" at most they get a 1K then get salty in the post game that no one wanted to play with him... >.>

@Popeyethesailorsman 21 күн бұрын

@@BrightWulphas an unknown main, ping pong playstyle is the best in my opinion. (Friends to the end and aura reading perks and hooking every survivor at least twice before first death, basically ping ponging between survivors to get downs, best way to bp farm)

@WaitWhatWho 20 күн бұрын

@@Popeyethesailorsman fellow unknown enjoyer here, I can confirm that FTTE is absolutely bonkers on them

@Erik_Ochoa013 23 күн бұрын

I miss Burger King Myers 😢

@renjiaow3742 23 күн бұрын

I thought this was common sense.

@mordecai6351 23 күн бұрын

Why do you people hate Scratched Mirror Myers smh. It's actually fun to play against

@zombiehunter1385 23 күн бұрын

@@mordecai6351it’s not hate, he just not good, as in it’s hard to “win”

@user-sw4op9zg2w 23 күн бұрын

@@mordecai6351nah it's boring

@donaldjgumpofficial5754 23 күн бұрын

@@mordecai6351 It's boring to go against. People just don't mind because it is rare.

@CoOlKyUbI96 23 күн бұрын

Either it’s not as common as people may think. Or people just want to play a bit goofier and don’t care about the win

@Minronis 22 күн бұрын

Scratch Mirror Myers should have a bunch of funny quirks to him, like no bloodlust cap and a stupid long lunge in the EGC.

@corvianknight_caw 23 күн бұрын

0:39 nice cake you got there

@KJawesome5 22 күн бұрын

The cake is a lie

@cksupreme 22 күн бұрын

Lol yeah you can see it at the end as well. 14:39 Why did he bring that?

@weakdazee 22 күн бұрын

scott is totally the type of guy to bring an escape cake during an event

@Technature7567 22 күн бұрын

Honestly, I know I'm really cynical because I've come to hate the community enough that bringing items that benefit other people is an allergen to me, but when I bring BP Streamers because fuck it and I get a 0k from people that be sore winners and insult me for not bringing the event item (I deserve the rope for this crime, apparently) only validates my actions of not bringing them. Why use something that benefits everyone when 90% of the time Everyone includes at least one asshole?

@weakdazee 22 күн бұрын

@@Technature7567 i mean if you want to be a spiteful prick, that's your prerogative.

@Jason-ji8ql 22 күн бұрын

I legit only want to play SM Myers. For me, Tombstone is kinda boring once people know its in play, and getting scares on other players is far more satisfying. Hell, I dont even play to win, I usually play to 8 hooks and then coast til the end. The sad part is I've played against streamers, and then they act surprised when I dont troll them at the end.

@latrodectahespara2728 23 күн бұрын

Scratched Mirror Myers is definitely a meme build, not one you'd bring for strength. Vanity Mirror, on the other hand...

@sevendaystocry2546 23 күн бұрын

still weak. I am a p100 myers main, so i should know.

@latrodectahespara2728 23 күн бұрын

@@sevendaystocry2546 I think Vanity Mirror Myers is underrated, though it's obviously not his best build. Even setting That One Addon aside, it's only really a sidegrade over something like faster stalk and hair bow. With the right supporting build, though, it's pretty alright. Certainly viable.

@sevendaystocry2546 23 күн бұрын

@@latrodectahespara2728 It is okay on smaller maps with line of sight blockers, so you can ambush people more, but the problem is it is really weak on big maps. Tombstone piece is the strongest build for myers by far.

@latrodectahespara2728 23 күн бұрын

@@sevendaystocry2546 Naturally, I wouldn't contest that the single most broken and OP thing in the entire game is his best build, lmao. Still, though, a little map dependency isn't an immediate viability killer. It's much less map dependent than the Scratched Mirror, and you do have _some_ control over what map you go to via offerings. I'd go so far as to say that it's pretty good on most maps. It's not even size that kills VM, it's openness. Ormond isn't that big, but it's open enough for VM builds to take a huge hit.

@frb5237 23 күн бұрын

I feel like vanity mirror needs monitor, but yeah I think it's underrated

@pffffffffffffffffft 22 күн бұрын

The last I played a scratched mirror it was in chaos shuffle, and it was probably one of the only times I felt like I legit earned an iri evader emblem. He chased me a few times at the start on Lerys, then the guy tunneled the first person he downed relentlessly until they were dead. He did get one more hook and then downed my last teammate who had tried to unhook while he was camping (I got the unhook during that), but then between my random breakout, and us body blocking the hook he lost them on wiggle out. He then chased me for the entire rest of the gens as the other two worked them in pairs, at least 75% of it was in the lobby area running around the desk/chairs and him falling for the pallet fake every time. He then had the nerve to complain about how we played and how we should get cancer lol. I've played a lot of scratched mirror, as long as you don't expect to "win" and just want to have fun it's fine.

@pyroronnie2473 23 күн бұрын

I love playing as scratch mirror, cause its not about wins, its about jumpscares

@otsokarhu9695 23 күн бұрын

There was a lit hex visible in the start of game spinaround, lol

@Kribaca117 22 күн бұрын

Lmao! Thank you for the laughs! This video was really worth posting. Thank you. I lost count of times I said, out loud, "oh, no." 😅

@j-money753 23 күн бұрын

It's a funny build but it usually only works on solo q survivors who don't know what scratch mirror is

@Headspr0uter 23 күн бұрын

with every loop around the barrels, i got more depressed i think i'd have given him the hook

@dankmemes7796 23 күн бұрын

When Made for this was around scratch mirror myers was unplayable .

@timebandit-fz2sq 23 күн бұрын

Hey let’s stop talking about scratched mirrors before they rework it into something really boring like half of the other addons in this game

@jaida3377 23 күн бұрын

It’s already incredibly boring lol, but knowing bhvr they could somehow make something worse

@wsawbi6402 22 күн бұрын

They likely won't. It's not a problematic add-on and it's one of the few add-ons in the game that drastically change the way a killer plays

@osamhala7madi536 22 күн бұрын

Watch them make it to u walk while u stalk 5% faster

@TVHammond 22 күн бұрын

whatever rework you can dream of, they're just going to make a new killer and use that idea for it

@Caikey 23 күн бұрын

Reality: guy is missing the whole build that goes with scratched mirror..

@taranciucgabrielradu 23 күн бұрын

Most killers: unsafe loop, I hit that Scratch Mirror Myers: what is an unsafe loop?

@GoombaInAShoe 23 күн бұрын

I've seen some posts on the reddit falsely claiming that vanity and scratched mirror give extra BP (it does, but only applies to score events. This means you max out your deviousness faster, but don't get anything after the match is over like offerings and perks do). So it might be related

@clothandleather2838 23 күн бұрын

I love scratched mirror

@mordecai6351 23 күн бұрын

Same. I think it should be basekit. I don't get why so many people hate it smh.

@dylanshorrorchannel1378 22 күн бұрын

Agreed I literally have 95% success rate using it.

@usedhalfcart 22 күн бұрын

@@mordecai6351because its so booring

@kratoscallofduty 23 күн бұрын

Thank you, Captain Obvious! It's literally a meme build. I use it the most around Halloween to scare people. My "peekaboo Myers" build.

@Pika-ck7ww 23 күн бұрын

The moment he started to chase, he lost

@Jimbobob5536 22 күн бұрын

I think a few times in that loop you were making distance on him/catching up to his back. XD

@Sekavuus 22 күн бұрын

Scratch mirror is the best thing in the game. To play as and play against. It's the most fun I have in this game,

@gpabuser4859 23 күн бұрын

Theoretically if he's smart when you camp there up top whilst injured do you have enough time to react if he comes from the side where you don't have line of sight?

@ScottJund 23 күн бұрын

Yes but only with balanced landing

@mitchsz 22 күн бұрын

What a chad not even bringing map offering as S Mirror Myers

@jrod2145 19 күн бұрын

Can you give your stance on the quiet kills vs Skermz situation

@WarriorExo 23 күн бұрын

The editor putting the Tapp slowly coming up behind Scott for the ENTIRE game, what a god.

@rjb11280 23 күн бұрын

tapp is always there

@vladspellbinder 22 күн бұрын

I hardly ever burned a map offering while playing Mirror Myers. Then again I mostly only ever burned Bloodpoint offerings. Every so often I'd burn a map offering if I had a Challenge that was best done on a particular map but that was on any killer not just Mirror Myers. 6:32 Hastag Not All Mirror Myers. I hope that Tapp player gets to a better place in life. Thanks for the video Scott.

@BunnychanFarabee 22 күн бұрын

Not sure if we're watching DBD or LOL Gangplank, every time Scott sees the opponent? "BARREL!"

@MattyHwang 22 күн бұрын

Best part of the video was everyone uniting over tapps bags at the end lol

@Idontknowwhat2type 23 күн бұрын

I love scratch Mirror. It’s probably the only thing I play on Myers lol. Plus it changes how the game is played. Taking chase in as a T1 has to be the hardest killer to chase with. And he needs to be on 3 maps or it’s a loss. Scratch Myers is what bonk and run wraiths wish they could be.

@DadByDaylight186 23 күн бұрын

As a P100 Scratched Mirror Myers main - it's 99% of what I play - I can attest to SM Myers being a weak killer when going up against Survivors who know what they're doing. Many Survivors don't know, though, and more common than not I get between 8-12 hooks (I prefer to do 8, 2 for each person and let them go. I love jump scares!). Perks are fun and Map offerings are fun, but sometimes I'll take Scratched Mirror and run him perkless and mapless, just to see what kind of streak I can get. And those streaks are always ended by Survivors aware of their surroundings :D

@lurkii_721 23 күн бұрын

Gigachad

@PresAlexWhit 23 күн бұрын

What are your perk recommendations for scratch mirror Myers to try and have the most fun/not get stomped on?

@DadByDaylight186 23 күн бұрын

@@PresAlexWhit My focus is fun, and amp'ing up the terror the survivors (hopefully) experience. When I do bring perks, I don't bring gen regression perks; against most solo queues, at least half the team will spend the game paranoid and not do gens, which is in itself a form of gen regression :D . And if you're going up against a swf/team on comms, you're going to have a rough match no matter what. My preferred build is Hex: Face the Darkness ; Hex: Blood Favor ; Hex: Undying and Spies From the Shadows. The Hex's are there to help ramp up the scariness ("If he can hear me scream he knows where I am, run!" "I can't use my pallets, oh no!"). Undying because they'll always try to break your totems. And Spies because Scratched Mirror isn't a 360 POV, plus it has a 4 meter greater radius.

@JondarKorric 15 күн бұрын

@@DadByDaylight186 I just use Face the Darkness, Third Seal, Thrill of the Hunt, and Haunted Ground. works super well when one thinks they're going to body block you from hitting the person on the totem, only to find out it's Haunted Ground.

@colin8770 22 күн бұрын

That detective tap was R00d

@TesseoTime 22 күн бұрын

Quiet mode was insane to me, as a spirit main lol

@ahbraveconscript997 23 күн бұрын

Reminds me of that video in which Scott was running the Car.

@BasementDweller_ 22 күн бұрын

Well the thing is I’ve gotten win streaks with Scratch Mirror Myers. This player just didn’t play optimally.

@jdizzle75 23 күн бұрын

Honestly. This was far more enjoyable than I thought it would be

@anettelma123 22 күн бұрын

12:00 how do you run so tight? it looks so perfect.

@AtkOfThShow 22 күн бұрын

Didn't expect the frame 1 jumpscare from Scott. Warn a guy next time

@Zombi3kill3rOO 23 күн бұрын

Every time someone uses scratched mirror in customs I tell them to use vanity mirror and dead rabbit instead

@Ashtonyss 22 күн бұрын

His mistake was going for chases. It's not a strong build, but it is fun as a mwme/jumpscare build.

@nicolasflorianodealencarsa1973 20 күн бұрын

Thats why i use Vanity Mirror+Dead Rabbit and Monitor, 8 meter terror radius is crazy

@CaptainDoomsday 20 күн бұрын

It's interesting how many Scratched Myers players get baited into loops. A little Haste certainly helps, but you want to leverage the advantage you traded your speed for.

@gremlinwc8996 23 күн бұрын

Vanity mirror myers sweep

@EvilLordCanas 21 күн бұрын

Scratched Mirror Myers is downright awful, they seriously need to buff tier 1 Myers in general. He should have 110% movesped and access to his regular lunge at least.

@lemoncake8044 23 күн бұрын

somitimes it feels like you are actually chasing him around that pallet

@endoxos5402 23 күн бұрын

Wow I literally just got done watching this on the Vod

@mazm8536 23 күн бұрын

I had a surv I beat brag about looping me for 30 seconds then went to yell at their teammates about how bad they played, that 30 second chase was the only time they didn’t immediately go down, and I was using scratch mirror on ormond, ON FUCKING ORMOND

@firecrusades3397 21 күн бұрын

every time i play scratched mirror the surivors turn goofy right away (i get four slugs at 5 gens and let one get up)

@Chaosrain112 22 күн бұрын

scratched mirror myers is a persistence predator, you can only get so many good corners around a shit loop

@thatfishguy4991 23 күн бұрын

This build is fun to play against but when they bring the vanity mirror and monitor and abuse it’s like miserable.

@SomersBugtopia 23 күн бұрын

Why?

@coffeebreak7978 23 күн бұрын

i had a scratch mirror game on Ormand cuz 3 survivors brought offerings, 2 people died. i don't understand how.

@tsunekofuwakage 22 күн бұрын

yea as much as i love scratched mirror, it's becomes painful when you go against any group that knows how to play. They really need to buff tier 1 to be 110% imo or make the mirror do it. in no version of this game should a killer be moving 105%. As shown in this video that's the speed where tight looping can out distance the killer. I would like the option to chase someone. I also don't use map offerring so on bad maps you kinda have to chase anyway.

@MynameisFICTION 22 күн бұрын

NASCAR myers loves going left simple as.

@Nephs_ 23 күн бұрын

Why dont ppl just use Vanity Mirror if they want to play like this, with M&A and rabbit you get a 6m TR so you're basically undetectable anyway but you actually get to be 115% and have a lunge

@Kofja 23 күн бұрын

silent mode sucks since some things like pinhead chains or plaque sickness making you puke, still makes sounds....

@Bodyknock 23 күн бұрын

The moral of the story is always run a speed buff with Scratch Mirror just in case you need to chase for a few seconds longer than normal.

@daztora 23 күн бұрын

And he still came out with the most BP

@kobusgreef2973 21 күн бұрын

I played Vanity Mirror Myers on this map and also won, had monitor and abuse with dead rabbit, terror radius is very small with monitor and dead rabbit. 2 players dc when I downed everyone :P.

@mattp994 22 күн бұрын

This Myers did not know what he was doing. You can't chase as mirror mike you have to go for ambushes, which requires some creative pathing to appear where survivors don't expect you.

@GorbombZombay 23 күн бұрын

As a Myers main just bring in battery inc NOED pwyf ruin on Hawkins it’s good time they always think their safe in ST room but with battery boost he’s fine usually atleast get 2 if not all 4 on scratched mirror Hawkins 🔪🎃

@CrazyKevin1231 23 күн бұрын

You go to jigsaw am mirror myers.

@flyinggoat9155 22 күн бұрын

At 14:37 did I see a t-posing Tapp?!

@whiterabbit4945 22 күн бұрын

scratch mirror deserves a teddybear at freddys skin

@eleanorgreywolfe5142 23 күн бұрын

The build the SM was using was pretty questionable honestly. Noed is pretty much a given with SM Myers but then again so is a map offering. Still a chad for leaving it to random chance if they get a good map or not.

@dbdstuffuncut 23 күн бұрын

Don't leave the loop he can't catch up

@user-nj4pd8ye1i 23 күн бұрын

scratched mirror without play with your food is impossible

@krugozor3904 22 күн бұрын

Where bard perk 😢

@NameIsDoc 23 күн бұрын

Scratch mirror isn’t for winning it’s for scaring a survivor so hard they have to change their pants

@NocSlays 19 күн бұрын

PWYF, rapid brutality, sloppy, and NOED and I’m sure he would have had a better time. Or get rid of NOED for deadlock to slow gens down a lil bit more.

@ryannem1216 23 күн бұрын

The basekit HUD killed SMM and most fun stealth builds.

@WomanRespecter6969 23 күн бұрын

I played against one with my buddies on MacMillan yesterday. We ended up winning but that shit is still boring asf.

@MrLollersnakes 21 күн бұрын

the caption is precisely why SM myers is actually the least fun killer in the game.

@veladanjbakht140 23 күн бұрын

Yeah.. best show case that shows no matter how you play the game no matter how weak I your killer no matter how fair you are or winning or losing, you are getting tbag att exit gate. And survivors crying nurse is op and they facing lot of nurses. You deserve what you get

@Chewie46 23 күн бұрын

Hello Scott this is friends ☺️

@Spudmay 22 күн бұрын

That poor Myers lol. Update my boi 😭😭

@yoriichitsugikuni2785 22 күн бұрын

i hate survs with ego cake in a anniversary event

@bigidiot5881 22 күн бұрын

You can tell it is bad because it's a type of Myers

@bigstick3064 23 күн бұрын

Flaming hot take from Scott. I’d be surprised if he dosn’t get canceled for this opinion.

@thechosenone3561 23 күн бұрын

HAWKINS IS BACK????

@thechosenone3561 23 күн бұрын

how did I not know

@CallMeDaioc 22 күн бұрын

as a scratched mirror main, i can easily kill everyone if i wanted to, i just get 8 hooks and resort to slugging to avoid killing.

@William256 22 күн бұрын

So you are playing against bad survivors. You literally just admitted that you purposefully lower your MMR.

@CallMeDaioc 22 күн бұрын

@@William256 im a p100 myers... I say scratched mirror main due to the fact i love playing it. However, i play so much regular myers and get consistent 4-3k with giving hatch. Scratched is a nice break from trying. I have 7k hours so don't ever say i get bad survivors...

@JondarKorric 15 күн бұрын

@@William256 also a P100 Myer that plays *exclusively* Jumpscare Myers while never letting them live, and it's not that hard to get a 4k without tunneling or camping.

@William256 15 күн бұрын

@@CallMeDaioc "I just get 8 hooks and resort to slugging to avoid killing." If you are avoiding killing, you are artificially lowering your MMR. Doesn't matter how much regular Myers you play, you already stated that you mostly play Scratched Mirror. 7K hours means nothing. My Clown MMR is near the bottom because I don't play him. MMR is tied individually to each and every killer. Either you are grossly exaggerating details or making shit up.

@CallMeDaioc 15 күн бұрын

@@William256 guess i am exaggerating, i meant by "main" as in main for myers, not exclusively scratched, but the point i was trying to make is that in the extremely high mmr lobbies i get from my regular myers gameplay i let people go only when playing scratched, and that's usually a low ratio of games played to regular myers. On top of that i just kill everyone if someone gives up on hook or they do not rescue, so that's even less mmr lost bc that happens a lot. I can tell you from sheer experience and not ego that my lobbies on Myers are very high mmr, despite the scratched games.

@Rin_404 22 күн бұрын

0:00 buh

@MrChoobb 23 күн бұрын

Still is only fun version for me :(. I eant a rework now

@spiritupgrades 22 күн бұрын

3:46 im a P100 Tapp am i real

@ThePowerofCutleries 23 күн бұрын

In other news, water makes you wet!

@BlackAndWhiteish 23 күн бұрын

True, but hes fun

@WalnutSquatch 17 күн бұрын

i don't think anyone said it was good, scott

@CaptToilet 23 күн бұрын

Scratch mirror isn't terrible. He is doing gods work by bringing horror back into this piece of shit game. I am thankful BHVR haven't changed this kit up.

@dearcastiel4667 23 күн бұрын

It's only good on Lerry's and against solo survivors. On any other maps the gens are safe enough to see him coming. Against SWF they can simply call out on who he is. Honnestly T1 Myers should be able to gain bloodlust, he's so underpowered in T1 there's no reason he can't get bloodlust.

@squbax1022 23 күн бұрын

I mean its widely know this build only works on new players or people who do not know it exists. Its not eally hard to counter.

@thatfishguy4991 23 күн бұрын

Is it though? When you’re in solo queue I’d argue it’s pretty hard to counter. It’s still not OP or anything but you have to stay healthy against him, which is difficult after the medkit nerfs.

@squbax1022 23 күн бұрын

@@thatfishguy4991 even is soloq you can still play it safe, so myers with that addon has no bussiness getting value if you have awareness.

@SomersBugtopia 23 күн бұрын

@@thatfishguy4991 It's super easy to counter even in solo, unless your teammates have poor composure or little experience. He moves like a slug so no real map traversal, can't loop anywhere, is wrecked by pallets, no slowdown, only functions on tight indoor maps and is wrecked hard by resets. He's even still audible which means attentive players can get a head start and is even more audible on his best map (the Game) so run to a pallet while your other teammates heal or do gens.