Usual quality and honesty Andrew, thanks for airing your experiences. As the credits were about to scroll, I was poised to type - I needed to see the Seat's lovely blue paint clean - and, as always, you didn't disappoint. A better weather update with popping blue coach-work will be a fitting addition to your ownership storyboard. Loved the Spanish lisp inclusion - amusing, top man. All the best.

Honestly that is one damn good looking wagon, the designer did excellent job.

Great video again Andrew. Have to say these sorts of cars make brilliant daily drives. Not quite the same but I had a 63 plate 2.0 TDi 150 Octavia Elegance estate from new for nearly 3 years/37k miles and to this day it's probably the best VAG daily I've had. It had it quirks (not very supportive seats and slightly buggy MIB1 infotainment) but it never failed me, was pleasant to drive and was v economical. Thing that saddened me the most was that it was worth about the same as a bag of crisps after 3 years (given its huge rental/fleet success) but then such is life. Like yours it had beam rear axle, but also non sports suspension.....It didn't handle wonderfully but the benefit was performance.......it weighed less than 1300kgs because of this and in a straight line went like a rocketship......performance wise wasnt much in it between it and the MK7 Golf GTDs I had (though they were far nicer to drive admittedly). It also had a wonderfully precise gearshift which I've not experienced in a car since....odd since it's gear linkage is probably just a Mk7 Golf one and little/no different. E-handbrakes......I'm on the fence with those. My last Mk7 GTD I got rid of as it developed a penchant for deactivating the handbrake upon opening the door to exit the car....final straw was me chasing the car down my road as it headed towards a busy road and a series of parked cars with my young son on board......brown trousers moment for sure. That said I have a car with an e -brake now and it's been perfect......and that Golf had been a Friday afternoon build I am sure of it 🤣

I’ve got 1.4 petrol 150bhp ST FR and managed 62mpg on a 100mile motorway run using cruise control in normal mode set at 70mph occasionally 50mph during roadworks. The car also has the 2 cylinder technology.

Getting my 2017, leon Fr estate tomorrow. Very excited, been watching your channel for a while now. Keep it up!

I’m on my 3rd FR great reliable cars never had a single problem with any of them! Great review btw⭐️👍🏻

I have a manual 2014 one of these coming on Saturday for a test drive, very helpful for me. thanks.

Very strange that I was looking at a Leon FR as my next car, this comes up in my recommended and then I realise I live just up the road!

The parkingbrake only activate it self when you have the Autohold feature button below the parkingbrake active.

A comprehensive review and an enjoyable watch

Great honest report on a great car. I agree that your mpg sounds disappointing but hopefully higher tyre pressures will help. My 1.6tdi manual averages 58mpg and has been known to hit 73mpg when driving very slow and light footed on a run. Totally love CarPlay too 👍🏼

Great video and I agree with the eco mode annoyances, my 2018 Passat GT follows exactly the same logic 🤔

The st is a nice looking estate car it looks like it was designed with some thought rather than just having a saloon car and squaring it off at the back like on the golf.

Have had an Ecomatic ST new since 2014. Economy has been very good, better in warmer weather. If you stick within speed limits 70 mpg is realistic. Even pushing it on you have to be rough to push it much under 60 mpg. I do miss the torque of the 2 litre when fully laden but that's rare. Overall a super useable day to day car, spacious and decent to drive and so cheap to run. Did I say it was at the 90k service before I needed front brakes replaced? Awesome.

Very interesting. I got a demo 2019 reg Cupra ST four wheel drive dsg. At the same time as you . Love the car . On way back to north of York from Warrington (mostly motorway) it averaged an amazing 39mpg. Since then, on rural roads , it is doing 33mpg. Didn’t buy it as an economy car so very pleased with this . If I drive it in Cupra mode though it’s then into the high 20s ! Got winter tyres fitted and I think they have worsened the mpg a bit. See in springtime when the summers go back on. Overall it’s an excellent car and a step up from my Golf Gti

That seemingly bloody sheet in the trunk made it appear that you're a part time serial killer that also does car reviews 😂. Great review and that bit made me laugh, so great job

That bit at the end with you trying to remember the model and spec in full... 😆 Great video, you may convince me to get one. Love the colour. Good car wash skills too!!

I just love my Leon ST FR. For 10 years I drove a Golf MKIV and it had more and more issues. It was like a culture shock to suddenly have so many modern things. The one thing I noticed is that the touchscreen on the radio has false touch when it‘s exposed to cold temperatures. But could be only with mine.

This car is absolutely fantastic and puts my Golf SportWagen almost to shame. I wish we had SEAT or Škoda here.

I vaguely remember seeing park brake settings when I was using OBD Eleven. Have a look at SEAT forums there’s a surprising amount of little tweaks available.

Another good vid Andrew. The VC looks good !

Leon’s are very good value especially used. I was looking at a polo 1.2 tsi 90 6c. However I might be able to get a Leon SC with the 1.4 tsi engine for similar money

Looked fun as hell in sport mode. You’ll have to give the Audi TT RS APR Stage 3+ a go if you get out here to Texas. I’ve got it in the shop right now being fitted with RacingLine carbon ceramic brakes. Should lighten the unsprung weight by 100 lbs.

I have a Nevada white 1.5 manual Leon FR ST exactly like this with the leather, digital dash and 18s. I love it. The new shape has grown on me though and I am tempted to replace mine with one, but only in Nevada white of course!

Andrew, glad you are in principle enjoying your workhorse new wheels. We can always find fault with any car when we are living with it daily.Role on 3000miles when the engine has eased up and you are gaining more enjoyment with improved performance and efficiency.

Great to see a video on how you are getting on with your new car, also it's good to know about the paddles for £500.I am also unsure about getting them as i never really used them. One question is do you have to use diamondbrite s/poo or can you use other s/poo such as autoglym ? Great video as usual...

Andrew, it is certainly a funny one because I watched your videos of the Up GTI and went on to buy and enjoy one. Now I am looking to buy a Leon ST FR 2.0 TDI 150 and yet again your video popped up. I am a bit torn between the petrol 190 and the diesel though. Tempted by the the extra economy of the diesel though - especially after the mpg of the Up GTI. One thing that I didn't know was that the 150 TDI had the torsion beam rear setup. I believe the 190 have full independent however from your review you don't seem to find that a problem.

Have a Leon fr 2.0 184 TDI, it's awesome! 220hp with map makes it just as fast as a base Mk7 gti

Interesting video Andrew and pleased that you are happy with your new workhorse. Just a question about applying the electric parking brake after switching off the ignition. I assumed you had to apply the brake while the engine was still running, to avoid running the battery down. I don’t think it mentions that in my golf’s instruction manual, but it does in my wife’s Audi A4 manual. Also, I always leave my car in gear (manual gearbox) while it’s parked up, just in case!

Did you check with a service about the missing settings? Some stuff might be configurable via a data cable even though it's not in the menus.

A good video , thinking of getting one , a fr black edition, petrol 150 bhp. Dont do enough miles for a diesel, and the hatch is just a little to small , with a big boot lid, so might catch it trying to get a bike in n out. Plus these are mot as common as the hatchback . Skoda octavia vrs is just too big, seat cupra estate, wow love one but wouldn't have my license for long, not to mention running costs.keep up the good work , like all ya videos.

Sorry, just my OCD hitting off the limiter. Nice car Andrew and a good review. 👍

Great video as always. Cheers

By the time you have 10k on it the MPG will be a lot better, however you do not normally keep them too long!

Great review. Do you know if there's any mods you can do to improve the sound deadening? My Leon ST 1.6tdi engine always audible. Don't mind that under acceleration which is typical diesel but at a constant 30mph I'd expect less hum. Only at 1700rpm in 3rd, 4th drops this to 1100 and then it booms. Even audible at 70mph. I had 1.6tdi Leon mark 2 before and I don't remember it droning. There's far less road noise on this car which exacerbates the problem. There's less clatter but a constant hum/drone. I test drove one in 2014 before I got my previous petrol version and I remember it being similar then too and a key reason to opt for the petrol car. But I forgot about this when I got this one for a good deal rather than buy out the PCP on the last one. Depending on how clogged up filter is refinement varies. Is this refinement compromise necessary to meet Euro 6? I swear its quieter outside than in. Not loud outside at idle. Last one a Leon 1.4tsi FR. Lovely engine that. Punchy and quiet in town. Only about 7 lower mpg. 45 v 52 for the diesel. Other than the drone the 1.6tdi is quick enough and fairly easy going

Great little video, I would have like too seen how much rear leg room there is in the back, (the joys of having kids eh).

Nice review! I am looking at importing a Seat Leon FR to Ireland, is it possible to change the digital dash speedo from Mph to Kph? Thanks

Lovely Jubbly, you have difficulty remembering it's model spec, imagine what it's like for the sales people.

I do very much like the look of the current model Seat Leon. It looks fantastic and even more so in estate form.

Auto-Hold must be active to have the E-brake auto engange when you turn the engine off.

Re the handbrake not engaging when you remove the key, if you have the ‘auto’ handbrake function selected (orange light should be on) it should engage then.

Don't worry about the mpg it will get to 50mpg plus once it's worn in. I do miss Apple car play I've had an aftermarket head unit which I used in my previous cars

I have the same car, if you have to auto hold function on (button under handbreak) then it will hold brakes every time you stop and the handbreak will automatically engage when you open the drivers door or take the key out! I never have to touch the button on mine!

Fix the handbrake thing with vcds mayby?

Have you compared it with the 1.4 Tsi for driveability? I'm torn between the two...

What is your screen washer like? On my Gti it was a powerful fan type. My Cupra has pathetic jets . I see on the Cupra forums it is suggested you can swop to VW fan type as the parts are generic . Worth a video showing how it’s done. And before and after result ?

MPG. It's winter so it's cold, it's also winter diesel time and like you say, not run in. Another 3 months and it will be a lot better.

You can switch into sport mode by tapping back on the gear select. Or Atleast I can on my 19 2l tsi St fr. When you hit it a second time it goes back into whatever setting you where previously in.

The parking brake should come on/off with the key i could see on the video the A button next to the brake wasn’t on? It needs a stage 1 remap for economy mine was running 195bhp returning 56mpg on the motorway at stready speeds

A very nice car for being reliable and dependable how long are you planning on keeping it

The new model is a little plump . I have speech problems that I had from birth getting Google to do stuff 📢 is mostly frustrating 🐪 pronouncing . Thanks for the update also 👍 don't ever be discouraged you look very much confident also if reads as annoying sorry Mr and is good looking estate I prefer it to alot of others cheers ps the Ford Grand tourneo 2019 is a keeper according to the lady in trousers for 6 years maybe (I really enjoy driving it when I get the fob) think maybe I shot myself in the foot 🤕

My biggest issue with it is when you use the cruise control there's nowhere to put your right foot.

I chose the same car but with 300 horse power engine. Best choice ever made.

Great video Andrew and excellent choice of car in both spec and colour - thankfully you’re not so Peaky Blinders in the accent department so the car can understand you - should last you until 2035 before UK goes electric only :)

I have a 64 plate Octavia tdi. It’s been in eco mode from day one and never changes . It also displays the mode on the head unit in the top left permanently. Odd considering the platform similarities.

totally different engine I know, but in my 2017 TTS I couldn't get over 30mpg no mattr how hard I tried. But when the car ticked over 3000 miles, for some reason the fuel economy improved dramatically - almost as if the engine switched into a different mode it was that noticeable. Now at 11,000 miles and I have to try really hard to get under 30mpg.

This guy is a proper geek

I'm in the process of buying a 184bhp one of these. How do you find the 150bhp motor compares to the GTD performance wise?

When will we get to see Tobys driving debut on the channel?

Don Johnson driving a spanish car!!👏👏👏😁

I found an odd thing out re the electric parking brake, you have to have the car lifted off the ground when you use Obd port to release it to enable you replace the rear brakes The only thing that slightly grates on me in my Audi is that it also resets mode each time it’s started, despite it sounding and showing it’s still in the same mode you left it, it’s not, odd Not being able to turn off completely Stop start also annoys me 😂

I had brand new 184dsg estate for 3 years absolutely superb in every way just got my brand new 2021 150efrdsg very disappointed the only improvement I found in this petrol 17inch wheeler is comfortable over our poor British roads the 184 had 18 inch wheels so go for standard 17s if your unfortunately living in England

Hi mate, I’ve got a Skoda Fabia 1.2 colour edition 2017 version, funny enough I find the dampers and the suspension is very similar to Seat’s, also would you say getting a Seat Leon FR Estate would be a better upgrade to my current car? 💪🏻

The eco mode is not healty for the gearbox, it one of the issues with the DSG 7. Have the same car, and love it.. and the handbrake Can be programed to come on automatic. The eco, sport and normal mode, the gear shows E,D or S then you know with mode you are in.

I hope the Cat made you a good offer on the Cupra

Could you live with one of these without dcc? I'm looking at a 2019 2.0tsi variant of this at the moment but wasn't sure as I don't think it has dcc

The tyre pressures are different on my leon fr with 18s they say 29 psi rear and 32 psi front ?

With your ‘eco engine - coasting’ issue; knock the car into neutral? Might be totally mistaken but I thought it being in neutral would be the same as coasting.

I have the same but a 1500 cc,same colour and dsg gearbox as my motability car and it's the best I have ever had.

I have a 19 fr st184bhp fr and the handbrake does come on auto

I thought these FR Sport models did come with independent rear suspension. Dont all Leon models with more than 150 hp ?

Nice car. look a good daily.

Thanks for the video, it's nice to get a bit more depth on the dynamics. I'm considering an FR Technology with the 1.8 TSI vs an Octavia vRS 220/230 (both manual) - do you have any thoughts on how they compare dynamically? Cheers

Haha the Spanish bit was funny

Waiting for new video 👌

Careful about your coments about the gtd estate. Yr gonna buy one in the future lol 😂😂😂

Have you Murdered someone in the boot?

Anyone know how the xcellence models drive compared to the fr?

Would anyone recommend a 2.0 TDI 150 DSG over a 1.6 TDI DSG for 90% motorway daily driver? Will i suffer mpg by going for a 1.6 to a 2.0?

Good video, I did 50,000 miles in 2 years in an mqb platform Skoda Octavia vrs tdi with similar commutes, averaged 40mpg.... The eco mode had minimal benefit to me. Great cars though just dubious economy claims!

Really enjoy your videos. I am undecided Between gtd estate and stfr like yours. As a vw guy curious why you chose the leon? How do noise levels compare? I like a quiet car. And finally what size wheels suit the st fr best? Keep up the great reviews.

Looks as big as my B5 RS4 ? Slightly higher roof thou

What made you go for the 150bhp version compared to the 184bhp version since your not really sacrificing much mpg. My golf Sv you can't buy with that engine since they're not a gtd version. Don't get me wrong I've got the 150bhp version pulls along nicely but I've driven a a4 with the more powerful version its pulls much better

What air pump do you use to adjust your tyre pressure?

Really like the color, look and technology of your car. I'm guessing that it's not AWD, like the VW R estate or Alltrack. That being said, how does it compare to the VW Sportwagen in ride and performance? Definitely think yours is the best looking! A clean car is a happy car and so, my you have many happy miles to come!👍👍👍👍👍

LEON OWNERS, how do you find the road noise?

I find the eco mode frustrating as you say when I restart the engine as it reverts to drive. Similar to sports mode, I assume it’s H&S so can drives standard when you return and forces you to select driving mode?

Hi mate I’m deciding between a clubsport 2016 or a 2015 golf R which do you recommend both 20.000 miles on the clock

I’ve got the Tsi 1.8. Excellent all rounder. Looks good drives surprisingly well. Put some Michelin pilot sports on as well. Only bugbear is the dsg at junctions can be annoying by appearing to not allow you to accelerate hard, can be difficult when trying to make a quick move into traffic!

Use the handle inside the boot to close it

I have a push button start and stop the hand break doesn’t come on when I switch off. Oh no, I have to lift a little chrome button. Nightmare!!!

Strange eco doesn't work with comfort suspension, works on my leon cupra st (also 2019).. that could be a glitch.

A good review thanks

That is one chonky cat 🐈

Hi did your GTD have DCC? I’d say to even compare this car to a Golf R is a non starter in many respects. Also you’d need to compare the GTD on a test drive one after the other to accurately compare.

👍great vid. Used to have a Leon FR 1.4tsi and unfortunately as you were saying in one of your previous videos, people were starting to eye it up. Changed to a Skoda Yeti which was abysmal. Now got myself a low mileage MK 7 Golf 1.6 TDI for less than 11 grand for ultimate comfort, economy, security and free tax! Enjoy your new car mate it looks fantastic in that blue colour!

E un fapt faptul..ca........tot un fel de Hagi in exprimare!!!

I have 2019 fr evo,petrol hatch back in the same colour. It's a superb car and such a better car than the Golf. I test drove a golf but the Seat just seemed a far better car

What’s the space like for rear passengers.

Such a shame that waze/ google maps do not show up on the virtual cockpit 😠