Sebastian Telfair: I Love Kobe But Let's Stop That S***, Kobe is Not Michael Jordan (Part 11)

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Former NBA player Sebastian Telfair didn't hold back when discussing the comparisons between Kobe Bryant and Michael Jordan. Telfair emphasized his admiration for Kobe but made it clear that Kobe is not Michael Jordan. He acknowledged Kobe's achievements and influence but insisted that Jordan's impact on the game remains unparalleled. Telfair also touched on Kevin Durant's place in the Greatest of All Time (GOAT) debate, suggesting that while Durant has accomplished much, he needs to wait until his career concludes to be fully appreciated. When discussing influential players, Telfair agreed with LeBron James' assessment that Allen Iverson and Steph Curry have significantly impacted the NBA. However, he believes no one has influenced the game like LeBron, especially in terms of player conditioning and professionalism.

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@dougjones2160 6 күн бұрын

Kobe’s influence would still be Jordan’s based on the fact that his game was a direct imitation of mikes. So anyone influenced by Kobe truly were influenced by Mike

@jamesadvincola9687 6 күн бұрын

Facts. It’s why I’ve never understood the whole mamba mentality thing. Isn’t that just Mike’s mindset? Why isn’t it called Jordan mentality?

@loki2240 6 күн бұрын

Kobe was more of a shooter than Jordan and he was a better shooter than Jordan. Of course, there are lots of similarities. But it's not like Kobe just copied Jordan's game.

@Carolinagunsmoke 5 күн бұрын

If you're a shooting guard in the triangle offense , why would Kobe game not favor MJ game?

@dawb86 5 күн бұрын

@@jamesadvincola9687 Probably for the simple fact that the dude who trained both said himself: Jordan worked smarter but NO ONE worked harder than Kobe Bryant.

@AbeM-jm8yo 5 күн бұрын

@@loki2240 What lol? MJ was a walking bucket shooting 49% Kobe 44%. And let us also not forget Kobe has the most shoots taken and missed in NBA history.😂

@Professorlive 5 күн бұрын

Kobe wasn’t as efficient as MJ. Nor did he score as easy as MJ. Nor did he own the league like MJ did his entire run.

@culcre 5 күн бұрын

@@Professorlive Well to be fair the refs didn’t help Kobe as much as they helped Jordan. Everyone knows that.

@quashonahardesty6538 5 күн бұрын

Lemme jump in on this one lmao, hell naw, Kobe sure didn't score as easy as Mj, and Lemme tell you why, Kobe ALWAYS had multiple bodies on him, 2, 3 and 4 defenders everytime the ball was in his hands as to where Mj always had 1 on 1 single coverage. Kobe was a threat to all of his opponents and no one guy could guard him and everybody knew it. Kobe was the MOST difficult shot maker in the league because nothing came to him easy due to the fact that he ALWAYS got double or triple teamed in defense. So that alone speaks 🗣 on how great Kobe was.

@melvinhhcp3615 5 күн бұрын

@@Professorlive Kobe owned the league legit from 01 to 2013. Offense & defense. Duncan & KG were the only 2 who's defense was on par with Kobe's for an extended period of time. But neither had the offensive game that Kobe had for as long as Kobe did.

@Yea6408 5 күн бұрын

I agree and Kobe is my favorite

@keithr.hammonds6653 5 күн бұрын

@@culcreRefs helped Jordan ??? I guess you missed those first 6 years vs the Pistons. 😂😂😂

@Ms.A.Matthews415-nn7hu 6 күн бұрын

MJ is the only other famous person to ever walk this earth after the other MJ 💯

@keithr.hammonds6653 5 күн бұрын

Muhammad Ali had the distinction of being the most recognized face on planet earth

@jebarlee8920 5 күн бұрын

Facts

@angiewilliams8472 5 күн бұрын

@@Ms.A.Matthews415-nn7hu & ELVIS, & THE BEATLES!!!

@Ms.A.Matthews415-nn7hu 5 күн бұрын

@@keithr.hammonds6653 I'm talking alive in 2024

@Ms.A.Matthews415-nn7hu 5 күн бұрын

@@angiewilliams8472 2024

@jermo1213 6 күн бұрын

MJ is universally considered the GOAT of Basketball.

@jdtown6585 3 күн бұрын

@@jermo1213 universally?? LOL cut the games.

@KKemp-bt6nl 6 күн бұрын

THANK YOU! Kobe is not Jordan 23 or 45.

@XayTheDj 4 күн бұрын

He’s 8 & 24

@CensorTube84 6 күн бұрын

MJ influenced ALL these dudes.

@angiewilliams8472 5 күн бұрын

& LARRY LEGEND JOE BIRD,.. INFLUENCE MJ,.. SO, SSSTTTOOOPPP IT, BECAUSE,.. EVEN HE SAID IT!!! LARRY LEGEND JOE BIRD IS THE GREATEST ALL-AROUND PLAYER OF ALL-TIME IN NBA'S HISTORY,.. POINT BLANK PERIODTTT!!!

@CensorTube84 5 күн бұрын

@@angiewilliams8472 tf you yelling for emotional ass ninja ..Majic and Bird didn’t globalize the game the way Jordan did, stop the bs. You’re not talking to a young mfkr. Matter a fact, go listen to Wilt.

@machomusprime50 5 күн бұрын

@@angiewilliams8472 Think a little bit before you get in your fellings. He clearly is talking to everyone AFTER HIM!! Smh reading and paying attention is fundamental.

@angiewilliams8472 5 күн бұрын

@@machomusprime50 1ST OF ALL: I'M NNNOOOOTTT IN MY FEELINGS!!! 2ND: I'M SPEAKING FACTS THAT I HAVE SEEN WITH MY OWN 2 EYES!!! 3:UUU NEED TO THINK A LITTLE MORE OUTSIDE THE BOX,.. FOR THINKING THAT I BEING EMOTIONAL,.. WHEN I'M ACTUALLY NOT, BECAUSE,.. I HAVE BEEN TEXTING LIKE THIS SINCE MY 1ST CELLULAR PHONE IN 2004, UUU FFF___CCCKKKIIINNNGGG DUFUS NITWITTED NINCUMPOOP!!! 4: UNDERSTANDING, INNERSTANDING, OVERSTANDING, & DEFINITELY KNOWING,.. IS EVEN SSOOO MUCH MORE THAN FUNDAMENTAL!!!

@angiewilliams8472 5 күн бұрын

@@machomusprime50 SSOOO,.. KNOW WHAT THE FFF___CCCKKK YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, & WHOM YOU'RE TALKING TO, BEFORE,.. UUU GO TEXTING YOUR WORDS TO SOMEONE ON SOCIAL MEDIA!!! BECAUSE,.. I HAVE BEEN WATCHING NBA BASKETBALL FOR 47 YEARS & COUNTING!!!

@thebear4880 6 күн бұрын

I still can’t believe Kobe died

@dcm4680 6 күн бұрын

Kobe was a less efficient Jordan

@titans360ify 6 күн бұрын

Number aside 6-0 finals .

@dominiquebyers2076 6 күн бұрын

Kobe played better competition at the two guard position.

@user-di1vv1fu3o 6 күн бұрын

He took and forced a lot of difficult shots, far more than jordan ever have

@bigfolks675 6 күн бұрын

Kobe was a better shooter than Jordan.

@California-king 5 күн бұрын

Kobe should have a 7 rings

@kinggbowalker2534 5 күн бұрын

LeBron ain't Jordan period.

@KKB45 5 күн бұрын

He never tried to be. That's all kobe

@BigWilt2000 4 күн бұрын

You must be slow because Bron never wanted to be Mike

@BigWilt2000 4 күн бұрын

@@KKB45exactly

@mackavelimillz 6 күн бұрын

A man with ONE League MVP, & ONLY 2 Finals MVPs is not close to Jordan. They just had similar playing styles (even if Kobe won the year Nash won, he would still only have 2 League MVPS)

@iladelcat 6 күн бұрын

Jordan was the FIRST to take the NBA to the next level.. And he NEVER lost a NBA finals

@brianlarkins4250 6 күн бұрын

So John havelick the goat according to you because he is 8-0

@iladelcat 6 күн бұрын

@@brianlarkins4250 it's John Havlicek, and is John Havlicek ever included in the goat conversation? Of course not. So there's no need to include him.

@rigobryant8050 6 күн бұрын

Magic and Bird were the 1st take the nba to the next level. Mike then took it a level further

@ejayemike6541 6 күн бұрын

Nah Wilt Chamberlain was when it comes to wild player stats but unfortunately the NBA was in its beginning stages without strong media coverage and not as many teams to go around in the more popular Showtime media type areas.

@chaunt100 5 күн бұрын

MAGIC AND BIRD SAVED THE NBA AND TOOK IT TO THE NEXT LEVEL

@delonjames7849 6 күн бұрын

He right on this

@moneyball2172 6 күн бұрын

He’s not. There is a reason Michael Jordan has the biggest brand outside of the NBA, influence

@kjee09 6 күн бұрын

I've said this before. Kobe gets compared to the old MJ... the 30+ year old MJ. The young Mike was a BEAST. In the 86-87 NBA season, MJ averaged 37.1 ppg. This was MJs 4th year in the league! I love Kobe, but we have to keep real. The league needed a replacement after MJ retired, and Kobe was the next best thing. No, one wants to remember the down years when Shaq left and Kobe was having a bad stretch as a player, and he took a lot of BAD shots...

@bigfolks675 6 күн бұрын

Kobe literally was averaging 35 points per game in that time.

@honestman3918 6 күн бұрын

37.1ppg to get bounced early… I’ve never seen MJ carry bums by himself to finals. Never

@diamondespn 6 күн бұрын

Name me the start and five when he was getting bounced from the playoffs @@honestman3918

@kjee09 6 күн бұрын

@@honestman3918 OK, I get it. I struck a nerve with you. But we need to stop having a revisionist history when it come to Kobe. When Shaq left LA Kobe struggled to lead his team to the finals. I don't even think he made it out of the 2nd round of the playoffs. He didn't win until they traded for Paul Gasol. Those years without Shaq was rough for Kobe. So much so that he demanded a trade to Chicago. Why? To follow in the footsteps of MJ. He will forever be in the shadow of MJ. Because he tried so hard to pattern his game after Mike. Mike made the game to easy, Kobe forced his game and took A LOT of BAD shots.

@kjee09 6 күн бұрын

@@bigfolks675 OK but here are some facts NBA MVP - KB 1, MJ 5 Finals MVP - KB 2, MJ 6 I only highlighted these two accolades because this is where it matters the most. Now Kobe has five rings, but with the first 3 he was riding Shaqs coat-tail. Shaq was a dominant force and he was the Finals MVP of the first three. It was clear that it was Shaqs team. Just think Pippen has more rings than Kobe, but we would never rank Pippen above Kobe because although Pippen contributed, Jordan was the leader. This is why MJ won all 6 of the Finals MVPs. This is how I view Kobes first three rings.

@salladiallo9766 5 күн бұрын

Kobe said it himself “MJ is the master “

@brob8204 6 күн бұрын

The thing that affects Kobe's legacy (and I won't say hurts) is that he mimicked Jordan his entire career, meaning he was always going to be Robin to Jordan's Batman. Think about it, the respect he NEVER was willing to give to Shaq, he gave to Jordan in spades without question. I do think Kobe is the all-time Laker, and that's saying quite a bit with Wilt, Jerry West, Magic, LeBron, Kareem, Elgin Baylor, Shaq etc. But Kobe was there for 20 yrs and it's the only uniform he donned.

@ExecutionStyleInc 5 күн бұрын

All time Laker? Bro West is literally the Logo for the NBA and Wilt can be debated as the GOAT rivaling Jordon. LeBron is not GOAT material. Space Jam 2 sucked ass.

@vladtv 6 күн бұрын

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@mindbully 5 күн бұрын

He’s not lying. Kobe isn’t Jordan. Period. Thats not a diss. I saw both of their entire careers.

@scottcochrane 6 күн бұрын

Jordan is the greatest. Ppl over the age of 40 know this. Kobe is not close, LeBron is not close. Jordan’s impact on the game globally is greater. Every kid wanted to be like Mike. Magic & Bird saved the game, MJ took it to a higher level.

@VizzyGotEm23 6 күн бұрын

Lebron the best overall player Jordan the greatest winner

@KKemp-bt6nl 6 күн бұрын

@@VizzyGotEm23 funny how that wasn’t thought when LeBron was in Miami and back to the Cavs.

@JamesHall415 6 күн бұрын

Only on the court matters. LeBron use too many screens to be a better individual player than jordan

@sincere8367 6 күн бұрын

@@VizzyGotEm23I absolutely agree with you💯 I always say Lebron is the (Best NBA) player ever but Jordan was the (Greatest NBA) player ever!

@hdeniro1106 6 күн бұрын

Only thing you're mentioning is Jordan's impact. Other than him being the first big mega star in basketball, he's not better than lebron. He was just the first who reached that level of celebritg.

@jesussinaloa9300 6 күн бұрын

Its not even close. Outside of being more efficient than Kobe, he pioneered the dneaker game and is a major reason why Nike is the brand it is today

@guwapdcfinest5868 6 күн бұрын

Ain’t nobody standing in line for no damn Lebron or curry’s ugly ass shoes lol. Jordan influence the greatest ever

@headshotgoat1 6 күн бұрын

Kevin Durant is not in the goat conversation be 4 fr he had sum good years but nahhhg

@dawb86 5 күн бұрын

It's just not possible. He would have needed at least one Finals victory without Golden State. We can give him props as being one of the most skilled players we've ever seen without having to feel like he needs to be put in GOAT discussions.

@JahThaGod12 5 күн бұрын

he took his name out that convo when he joined the already championship built Warriors

@marcusjohnson5420 6 күн бұрын

None of the mfs mentioned is the 🐐. Might be considered one of the all time greats, but as far as 🐐, that’s Jordan by a MILE

@ShanaDixon-sr7kl 6 күн бұрын

thanks for sharing, you inspired me to try something new

@SelenMakrova-np4lg 6 күн бұрын

Interesting perspective, got me thinking!

@travelandeats8518 6 күн бұрын

Did Michael studied Kobe. Or Kobe watched and studied Michael. Hahaha we know the true answer

@KKemp-bt6nl 6 күн бұрын

There was a video back in the day that showed Jordan crushing it, and Kobe imitating Jordan. Even sticking his tongue out like Jordan.

@Above_the_water 6 күн бұрын

Agree. You said it perfectly.

@DJRashadHayes 6 күн бұрын

Exactly. I showed a young kid who thought he knew everything, clips of jordan: he goes, “man, he aint that good- he plays just like kobe!” Mic drop. I turned it off and walked away and told him to check the dates.

@leonardtarver149 6 күн бұрын

You didn’t “studied” in school 😂😂🤣😂

@XplosiveMe 5 күн бұрын

Kobe is my got and as a true basketball head he had he studied and took a lot from everyone ducks one footed fade Hakeems dream shake Jordan's fade etc stop the bullshit

@Fr3shBoy90 5 күн бұрын

People like to say most influential but forget Bill Russell, Magic Johnson, Larry Bird...the NBA has been around longer than 30 years

@Dipset415 5 күн бұрын

It wasn’t global like that. There was hulk hogan ric flair Andre the giant but then there was the Rock see the difference 🤷🏿‍♂️

@grandarsonrecords6002 5 күн бұрын

"I mean love Kobe, I love Kobe but...

@SouthWest74 6 күн бұрын

If there was no Jordan wouldn't be a Kobe Kobe immulated his style from his favorite player which is Jordan 💪🏿

@shanedavis221 5 күн бұрын

Telfair told you He’s not Michael Jordan. That’s all that needs to be said VLAD

@YUNGRC 6 күн бұрын

Nah Kobe is a legend made his own name made history and changed the game Rip Kobe

@richiestu8223 6 күн бұрын

Yeah, just not Mike

@allaboutthemurzic 6 күн бұрын

Kobe overrated and yall dickriding just cause he dead the fake love is obnoxious

@titans360ify 6 күн бұрын

How’d he change the game

@kjee09 6 күн бұрын

I hate to say it, but Kobe will always be in Mike's shadow. He spent too much of his NBA career trying to be like Mike. Here's another fact about Kobe we need to accept. His first three titles were on Shaqs team. Shaq won the finals MVP all three times, not Kobe. In fact, Kobe only has 1 NBA MVP. If he changed the game, he'd have multiple (i.e., Curry, Joker, LBJ, MJ, etc)

@dominiquebyers2076 6 күн бұрын

@@titans360ifyKobe was the reason they stopped running illegal defense.

@georgelhannon7845 5 күн бұрын

You said a mouth full. It's Jordan and then everybody else. I am 1 month from turning 55 years old. Jordan didn't have a one man competition.

@blinggzillatv 5 күн бұрын

The closest Kobe came to replicating Jordan was the 95-98 version bc the 91-93 MJ no one has ever come close to

@mars2b 6 күн бұрын

If Kobe is judged off his own career and not as "the closest thing to MJ" he's still top 10-12 all time. But far from being the GOAT

@melvinhhcp3615 6 күн бұрын

Top 5, really closer than that.

@AbeM-jm8yo 5 күн бұрын

@melvinhhcp3615 Nope top 20 he's ranked correctly by the NBA 75 greatest players ever. Go learn Kobes stats man, no top 5 player has that low of stars across the board. The one MVP trophy is a good place to start.

@AbeM-jm8yo 5 күн бұрын

Yes sir you are correct.

@SevenmilePoncho 5 күн бұрын

@@AbeM-jm8yolike kyrie said idgaf bout no stats we watched the dude

@AbeM-jm8yo 5 күн бұрын

@@SevenmilePonchoYeah I watched him also plus the NBA 20 years before that and now. Denying mathematical stats based on ones performance is hilarious. The stats are Kobe what he did and did not do. Again one MVP over a 15 year career doesn't put him in a GOAT conversation or even close.

@myrontaylor5310 5 күн бұрын

Lebron changed the game too. Kobe didn't he kept the MJ ball hog glory ball legacy going. Bron meanwhile became the best overall player ever and made players focus on more than scoring in their game and be recognized for it. Steph re-shifted the emphasis back to scoring but more so made 3 pointers a regular part of a players game instead of just one or two guys who shoot threes. He made threes more exciting than dunks somehow lol And A.I. as we all know merged Street style ball and HIP HOP with a major suit and tie corporation like the NBA. Kevin Durant while known for his offensive prowess did not change anything, he kept the scoring legacy going from MJ and Kobe and that's why he's not held up as high.

@Iam_H.I.M. 4 күн бұрын

💯💯

@1tmproductions 5 күн бұрын

Jordan was a phenomenal player. But I believe the combination of the shoes, the coverage of the Dream Team, Space Jam, him being in a Michael Jackson video, and the "Like Mike" commercial all worked to create this surreal moment in sports. So, it's not just the talent NBA greats after him are being compared to, it's that nostalgia surrounding Jordan, which I don't think can be topped. I feel like Jordan was the most fluid scorer ever. He would contort his body 5 times to get the shot off. It looked like a gymnast playing basketball. If you think he's the greatest fine. But this notion that other greats are nowhere near his level, I just don't buy it. The fact of the matter is if they faced on in their primes Kobe wasn't going to stop MJ. And MJ wasn't going to stop Kobe. You can feel Jordan is slightly better in some ways. But not so much so where he would dominate a prime Kobe.

@yourenotthatguy6295 6 күн бұрын

The guy who made the weakest move in the history of sports can't be in the goat conversation.

@California-king 5 күн бұрын

That’s it right there…. No mo talking

@datniggaeazye.5968 5 күн бұрын

what he do

@BigWilt2000 4 күн бұрын

The shoes thing shouldn’t even be a conversation considering the deaths

@d5fitness_dayekaba 4 күн бұрын

Bassy’s perspective is gold for real

@SmooveTV718 5 күн бұрын

Aura/Influence: Jordan, Kobe, Bron Pure Skill: Kobe, Jordan, Bron Usage of Power: Bron, Jordan, Kobe

@naradarandall8634 6 күн бұрын

LBJ really walking with the basketball 😂😂😂

@tomking7080 5 күн бұрын

I’m 46 years old and my Mt. Rushmore is MJ,Kobe,LeBron and AI

@theekiddunknown6069 6 күн бұрын

Hell naw Jordan only looked so GREAT bcuz he was playing against a league that was WEAK compared to 2000’s gameplay.. & 99% of people talking haven’t watched Jordan film where he plays an entire game.. shit wasn’t that great like the highlights they always show of him.. Kobe the goat!💯🤧

@exumapigtours4375 6 күн бұрын

KD is not in the goat debate because golden state warriors whipped his ass and he ran to them the next year to go get rings. MJ, Kobe or LeBron would have never done that! Period

@cbsregg1620 5 күн бұрын

I watched Kobe’s entire career the 1996 draft class was the reason I started watching the NBA I was 7 nobody liked Kobe even when he was in the middle of his prime dropping 40 just about every game they said he was a ball hog they tried to say Tmac was better even Vince Carter they called him arrogant and selfish when he caught that case everybody tried to destroy him even after he retired no one cared but when he died the world started talking about the mamba mentality and all of a sudden everybody was a Kobe fan people are weird they’ll never give you your credit until it’s to late

@DestinatioNext 5 күн бұрын

It’s a different position! That’s the answer about KD. The Kobe thing is not close because MJ was a trend setter and first of the modern swag in the NBA.

@damianbaileyfitness9348 5 күн бұрын

People sure forget about that series when he OUT SHOT himself in that Detroit series. No one wants to talk about that. He wasn't the reason LA had a dynasty: IT WAS SHAQ and Shaq had more of a greater dynasty with WADE than KOBE. KOBE ran shaq n Phil out of town but no one wants to admit this

@kevlarkash718 5 күн бұрын

He must’ve was booked or something Steph was making noise on Davidson

@StaylowK 5 күн бұрын

Kobe was raw asf

@AUPNEXT 5 күн бұрын

Just so people understand the reason durant isnt in the convo becasue hes never led a team anywhere, and since golden state hes won like 4 playoff games as a leader kd is trash as a player hes great but hes just a scorer, he said himself "im not a leader, i just wanna go out and hoop" curry has won before kd, with kd, and after kd,

@robertpitts8161 5 күн бұрын

I don't see how u can be in the conversation at all by joining a team that's already winning championships without you lol

@derrickwilliams936 5 күн бұрын

Mike was a smarter player, and more athletic. But overall Mike had a better understanding of the game.

@ree3119 5 күн бұрын

Kobe was doin mj shit in a more defensive era with better competition. Idk why people slight him to this day when people was sayin its only him and mike while he was playing. If mj is the goat and kobe is a carbon copy, at the lowest he'd be ranked #2 with that logic

@jakebrown7536 5 күн бұрын

Finally, someone had the balls to say it. RIP Kobe, but once he died mfs started overrating him

@ysaun7225 5 күн бұрын

KD hasn’t changed the game at all fr. He’s jus a PURE hooper a DAWG thats why he’s talked about. But no Goat convo is understandable.

@dawrekzorcist3372 5 күн бұрын

Kobe didn't have his own game. Kobe's whole style is from Jordan. Iverson brought the hood and the park crossover to the NBA and Steph got everybody thinking they can shoot from half court. Jordan , Iverson, and Steph definitely influenced the NBA and abroad.

@theofreemanjr4415 5 күн бұрын

Ppl who say that kobe copied Jordan doesn't kno basketball or played basketball. We all growing up wanted to be like someone who we admire. Kobe didn't copy Jordan he perfected it kobe was a student of the game not just a fan he actually want to be like the ones he watch the most if not better stop hating bc yall didn't get where kobe gotten. LeBron KD Steph Curry AD Devin Booker Anthony Edwards etc all said that they studied kobe . Kobe is one of the most influential basketball players of all time its him and Jordan kobe is popular in other countries most of your favorite players not even that popular in different countries thats including LeBron and steph Curry dont believe me look it up or watch the US games with kobe in you'll see for yourself stop down playing the goat like that bc you like another player more doesn't mean you can knocked down the others goats. If you have alot of haters thats let you kno you done your job right. R.I.P Kobe The Goat 🐐 Bryant

@Goodguy1ful 5 күн бұрын

Kobe and MJ are as great a player as I've ever seen .. if I had to pick I;d give Kobe te edge as the very slightly better player

@reggiefurlow1 5 күн бұрын

KD did the must "ungoat" choice ever! That's why he won't be in the conversation

@teddylamar3190 4 күн бұрын

Bru kd was never in that conversation it’s always been Jordan vs lebron

@lewr3738 5 күн бұрын

I’m a lifelong laker/Kobe fan. Kobe is compared to MJ but the vast vast vast majority of people have MJ over Kobe, rightly so. Kobe is allot of peoples favorite player because of his work ethic. MJ is the goat. Kobe is the second great shooting guard of all time.

@JohnnyScumbagg 5 күн бұрын

Kobe emulated MJ but MJ had physical gifts he was born with that Kobe just didn’t have. Kobe was the product of hard work and discipline more than natural given physical gifts.

@coine1978 6 күн бұрын

Kobe is a Top 10 all time not a Top 5... but Kobe is definitely Top 4 influence in NBA history because of his work ethic no doubt... A.I., Jordan and Curry are Top 3

@Dipset415 5 күн бұрын

If Kobe isn’t in your top 5 but Lebron is your a victim of media manipulation 💯🫵🏿😭

@lw3042003 5 күн бұрын

If Kobe didn't catch that case it would've been 3 Space Jams instead of 2

@rikers263 5 күн бұрын

Ppl added lebron but I think that was marketing/ narrative. Once he left Cleveland to join Miami many dismissed him. KD can't stay healthy and when he jumped over to GSW killed that for many. Kobe is amazing, but he had Shaq and he didn't influence the game like MJ. Kobe was prepped to be the face of the league that's why Iverson disliked him, Eddie Jones spoke about that many times who was the SG before Kobe.

@FirstPersonHood 6 күн бұрын

Opinions, mj had the most dynamic marketing ever! We can never get pass the commercials, the jordan rules, the shoes......as time goes on the fans memory will change.

@krisevans4379 4 күн бұрын

Finally somebody being honest damnnn. Its tragic what happened but yall need to stop this

@acebrown6940 6 күн бұрын

Of course he’s not MJ he can only be Kobe but he is the closest we have ever seen to Michael and that is a fact Jack lol

@allaboutthemurzic 6 күн бұрын

Wilt shits on both

@melvinhhcp3615 6 күн бұрын

@@allaboutthemurzicFalse

@1Eashawty 5 күн бұрын

& he still not close

@melvinhhcp3615 5 күн бұрын

@@1Eashawty Yes, he is. They are the only 2 in nba history with 32k pts. 5 rings. 10x all nba 1st team. 9x all defense 1st team. 2 gold medals (no bronze). 2 fmvps. 1 mvp. Nobody else matches this exactly except Kobe & Jordan.

@1Eashawty 5 күн бұрын

@@melvinhhcp3615 Jordan got 6 rings ,10 scoring titles, 3 stls champ, 11 all nba, roy, dpoy, 9 all defense, 5 mvps, 6 finals mvps, 14 all stars & 3 all star MVPs. So Kobe may be the closest but in reality he not even close

@artislife7554 5 күн бұрын

I get that A.I. is considered influential for his corn rolls, baggy clothes and tattoos (Even though Dennis rodman was the first to blaze that trail), but how did Steph Curry influence the game? The Don Nelson led Mavericks of the late nineties were the first Team(s) to start posting the entire team up around the perimeter and start jacking up threes for the entire game, that I can recall. Jordan's influence was such, that every up and coming basketball player from then til now, emulates his style of play be it the flashy dunks, the creative under the rim layups, the baseline fake when doubled... he was the face of the NBA for years and one of the key players that helped it blossom overseas due to his global popularity... he revolutionized the wave of players getting sneaker endorsements and their own signature shoe(s)... and he's your favorite basketball players favorite basketball player. How is his impact (on the game) not mentioned in the conversation?

@rell_5000 5 күн бұрын

The only two in NBA history to win the scoring title and make 1st team all defense in the same season are Kobe and Jordan. And they both did multiple times. Not LeBron, not Magic, not Bird or Duncan, not even Kareem or Wilt did it. On both ends of the floor they're in a class by themselves whether y'all like it or not.

@CMG810 6 күн бұрын

He’ll look at how Free Agency is now. All LeBron

@travino 6 күн бұрын

It's only a matter of time before Lavar ball is back on here.

@JahThaGod12 5 күн бұрын

Kobe is ONE of the greats but he can’t be considered the greatest when he literally mirrored and mimicked Mike

@artkid9279 5 күн бұрын

people can only use rings to downplay LeBron , not any other stat. people can make all the excuses in the world but the truth is basketball will always evolve. now i cant defend the bullshit fouls called now and days but we witness the greatest shooter ever and the greatest all around player ever on THIS ERA , not the 90s .

@clyderobinson3475 6 күн бұрын

You can tell vlad don’t know sports lol KD is widely considered one of the all time greats he just not considered the Goat.

@kinggee5605 4 күн бұрын

We all know Kobe was a Supertar who did his thing. Influenced the ppl who were fans of his but Allen Iverson influenced the whole culture it’s a difference, he had more swag and charisma than Kobe.

@citypopradioFM 5 күн бұрын

Kobe was like the most MJ-like player ever aside from MJ himself lol. Jordan is definitely the GOAT but nobody should be mad if others put Kobe up there either. A lot of people who grew up watching Kobe didn't watch Jordan's heyday or feel how he took the NBA to different levels of a worldwide phenomenon after Magic and Larry saved the whole league in the 80's. Kobe is certainly the GOAT of his generation, in my opinion.

@Greatest203 5 күн бұрын

Vlad : kobe passed before his time so he's put on a pedestal Actual fact : kobe retired before he died 😪

@MyDogSteppedOnaBeee 5 күн бұрын

He is not but he's the closest thing to him we've seen so far and they always compare Lebron to MJ and forget Kobe 💯

@tayoko4715 5 күн бұрын

I never seen a crowd roar like when Kobe came out. MJ the goat, but Kobe was right there.

@trapperflexer 5 күн бұрын

Micheal and Kobe is like snoop and nip Vlad and say cheese Like it’s no foundation without the blueprint

@Ricanfresh561 5 күн бұрын

I’ve been watching basketball since 2006 i never Hurd no one say Kobe was the goat till after he passed glad some one keeping it real only persons who’s worthy of the goat convo is Mj Bron Kareem everyone else after dat dead

@kinggbowalker2534 5 күн бұрын

Did people kill each other for LeBron shoes like Jordan, or have commercials if I could be like Mike or be the player everyone wanted to be on the playground?

@sirnamejames1992 5 күн бұрын

The fact that he died and everyone act like Kobe bean was average. He was a huge influence

@DaMixWizard 2 күн бұрын

How someone who copied someone’s style and the way he plays be considered better than the original🤔?

@cptstangem 5 күн бұрын

There’s Never been Jordan, Bron, Shaq, AI, or Steph. Kobe is a Jordan clone.

@jasonpeters1593 2 күн бұрын

Kobe. Over. Everyone. Dead or alive. 20 years vs. 12. Came in 18 out of highschool and still got there.

@drestathagangsta8880 5 күн бұрын

I could argue that Kobe is a lot closer to Jordan than Sebastian is to being the greatest pg to come from New York City.

@JahlilShariah-dd6yv 4 күн бұрын

Kobe is definitely not Jordan he’s Kobe

@dominiquebyers2076 6 күн бұрын

Kobe played better competition at the 2 guard position. He the reason they started playing zone defense. Look at the comp Mike played against if Mike got drafted later. He would be regular. Everybody has 40 inch verticals in the late 90s.

@khaliftreacy4624 6 күн бұрын

Jordan played against way more hall of famers than kobe!! Stop it !! U cannot down play jordan era!!! Way more greats in that era

@ethanedwards9718 5 күн бұрын

Durant in goat debate is hot garbage

@ironzeektheicon4426 6 күн бұрын

Kd is not a goat every person mentioned as a goat takes over and makes their team competitive the suns ain’t do shit ,the nets don’t count and you had two of the greatest shooters on your team put kd on the bulls and see what record they have probably a boarder line play in team or 8th seed

@ThirtyThreeHipHop 5 күн бұрын

Kobe tried to out "Mike" Mike. You will always fall short as a carbon copy. He tried that's why he got 5. You will always fall short trying to be someone else. He came DAMN close though. But that's o.k. he is top 10 arguably Top 5. Jordan, Kareem, Magic, LeBron, Russell, Duncan are all ahead of him in my book in no particular order.

@tmac7887 5 күн бұрын

The NBA ratings have dropped since Jordan left…And it never came back even though Kobe played almost 20 years.. Let that sink in

@kinggbowalker2534 5 күн бұрын

He doesn't have MJ's killer instinct nor influence if he copied it.

@ssdynasty8587 5 күн бұрын

Bruh foh. Kobe handled the ball more, more slithering then finish. Jordan one or two moves especially early on. It’s Mike then Kob. And bro, you’re not A.I. either fym.

@melgoat 6 күн бұрын

Kobe is easily #1 or #2 most influential all time before he died it's plenty of proof of this but lebron fans and lebron media had brainwashed people into thinking otherwise

@TreeSnackz 5 күн бұрын

Kobe is the only MJ NBA comparison that actually had merit.

@Whyarmani 5 күн бұрын

Wasn’t even about skill it’s about star factor, and people really forget one key element Jordan brand itself. We could argue it’s bigger then it’s more notable then MJ himself

@toureharris3489 5 күн бұрын

Kobe mike and bron are all interchangeable to me. They’re the best players in my opinion.

@2cleeng 6 күн бұрын

Shaq is my all time favorite player but Kobe the greatest. you could even put Kareem better college career scoring nba champ but no one ever throws Kareem out there. He also had a bigger political impact where Mike never wanted to get mixed in which to me elevates Kareem even MORE.